The point is that there is way too much placed on that word. Yes i'm blind i don't care about saying that i an but i don't go about saying blind this blind that. It's silly.
-original message- Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com> Date: 30:10:2013 2.52 pm That's because of who they are designed for. The blind. No negativity intended. The problem might be the way in which the word "blind" is taken. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_har...@btinternet.com> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" <gamers@audyssey.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine >I think that's a big part of the problem. Too much enphesis I think is put > on the word blind. Which isn't all together a bad thing as with any game > there needs to be elements of accessibility built in so blind people can > play them. But I think the enphesis is way to big. I mean for example and > this is just a generic statement, you got blindsoftware blindcooltech > blindbargins blindmicemart the list goes on. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward > Sent: 30 October 2013 12:30 > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine > > Hi Dark, > > I see your point. That is in fact why as I am working on the > descriptions for the Audyssey Magazine, list, etc I am strongly > considering removing the word blind from the website, and am going to > focus more on what types of games etc are discussed here. I think as > long as we act as though we are a separate group of gamers with our > own interests and unique style of gaming we will not be able to > interest mainstream gamers who have similar interests. Gamebooks and > interactive fiction, for example, are not exclusive to blind gamers > yet we don't see anyone from the mainstream public discussing them > here. That's because up until now we have always declared Audyssey to > be for blind gamers rather than for certain games such as audio games, > interactive fiction, muds, and so on. > > Cheers! > > On 10/30/13, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote: >> Hi Tom. >> >> While I do see your point and generally speaking would agree, at the same >> time the Iphone has seen more than a few interactive audio dramas which >> directly buck this trend. >> >> Codename Signus, the Freq, Blindside and quite a few others, even to a > large >> >> extent games like papasangre which present themselves more as interactive >> audio drama and work on their atmosphere rather than their gameplay. >> >> I know in the past few years radio drama has seen something of a > renaesance >> >> in popular culture, and you can clearly see it with how major companies > like >> >> big finish and Graphic audio have heavily expanded their operations, (and >> certainly they! don't just sell to blind people). >> >> It'd be rather interesting if games like swamp or shades of doom could >> tap >> into this, since clearly there is now a cross section of sighted gamers > who >> >> are interested in audio atmosphere. >> >> Take Shades of doom as an example, the game who's atmosphere actually >> encouraged me to play audio games in the first place. If David greenwood >> entirely removed the word "blind" from his website, (albeit not from the >> documentation), and described shades of doom as "an interactive survival >> horror trapped in pitch darkness" you'd probably get a lot more sighted >> gamers playing it. >> >> Or to take another example, suppose you redesigned a casino game with >> full >> voice acting, lots of audio ambience and drama like bits of description. > So >> >> instead of being told "you draw a ten of spades" you get "the dealer's > thin >> >> fingered hand flips a card kneetly out of the shoe and slips it across >> the >> green base to you, ---- it is the ten of spadess" >> >> Such a game could be billed as an audio ambience experience of a casino, > as >> >> much as a numerical game of blackjack, and again, would have appeal to at >> least a certain cross section of the sighted gaming public, just as > textual >> >> games and gamebooks do to another. >> >> Beware the Grue! >> >> Dark. >> ----- > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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