Same here, as I once tried implementing the 2007 scratch SDK into the Alien Swarm code, and ended up going back to 2007 to keep working on programming.
As for Mike, he's probably busy with talking on forums with people who need help with certain things. And what about Tony Sergi, the guy who created the scratch SDK in the first place? I understand he has much more community involvement and would probably have use to make an Alien Swarm scratch mod. On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Harry Jeffery < harry101jeff...@googlemail.com> wrote: > A scratch sdk option for the Alien Swarm code would be nice. I looked > through the code with an intent to mod it but the alienswarm specific > stuff got in the way so much. I just gave up on it as there was no > easy way to remove the alienswarm stuff without going through > thousands of inter-dependencies. > > On 29 October 2010 19:52, Dan L <djl4...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The thing i am most upset about is there is still no create a mod option > for > > source 2009 based games. I wish valve would include full hl2:dm code and > > update it as it patches like alien swarm. Can we at least get an ETA for > > 2009 sdk? > > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:41 AM, Jed <j...@wunderboy.org> wrote: > > > >> I like Valve but yeah, I've been vocal about my growing dislike of the > >> SDK for a while. Heck some numpty quotes me on the wiki page... :( > >> > >> As a third-party SDK tool developer I've been smacking my head into > >> the desk with all the different versions for a while and it's a > >> nightmare keeping up with it. I'm getting to the point where I might > >> just stop because it feels like a colossal waste of my free time that > >> I could be using for something more rewarding. > >> > >> As for the mod I'm working on - if I'd know using the Source SDK would > >> of been this much of a pain I'd of chosen something else from the > >> beginning. I reckon trying to keep up with SDK changes has put at > >> least 2 years onto our development time. So much for the "release soon > >> and release often" advice Valve pushed. > >> > >> - Jed > >> > >> > >> On 28 October 2010 21:14, Tobias Kammersgaard > >> <tobias.kammersga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Mike Durand introduced himself as a new employee at Valve, that's > hired > >> to > >> > focus on the Source SDK, and updating it. > >> > I quote "My full time job is to make sure that you have everything > they > >> need > >> > to build your games." > >> > > >> > Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:13:13 -0700 > >> > From: "Mike Durand" <mdur...@valvesoftware.com> > >> > To: <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> > >> > Subject: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release > >> > Reply-To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com > >> > > >> > Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to > >> > introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve. > >> > > >> > I started work here in June and have been given the task of working > >> > directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary > >> > responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to > >> > use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with > the > >> > help of other members of the community. > >> > > >> > My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to > >> > build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the > VDC, > >> > but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions > you > >> > have at mdur...@valvesoftware.com. > >> > > >> > So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that > you > >> > really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we > >> > are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It > will > >> > be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems > during > >> > testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be > this > >> > week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the > info > >> > on what is coming in this SDK release to this list. > >> > > >> > -Mike > >> > > >> > > >> > That's four years ago. It pretty much went down hill since the Orange > Box > >> > code was released. I remember in 2003 when Gabe Newell promoted Steam > in > >> > several different interviews, saying how Steam would make publishing > >> updates > >> > to the end user way easier for them, yes its easier for them, but over > >> the > >> > years its just getting harder and harder for us working with the > Source > >> SDK. > >> > > >> > I see a lot of people ditching the Source Engine over the UDK, and I'm > >> > starting to see why. I'm a big fan of Valve games, and I've defended > the > >> > Source SDK and the Source engine many times. > >> > > >> > I didn't really recognize too much in the articles that's popped up > >> lately, > >> > such as these, and honestly I was a little offended. > >> > > >> > http://www.halflife2.net/2010/08/16/sdk-soul-destroying-kit/ > >> > > >> > http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/valve-you-should-be-ashamed-of-yourselves/ > >> > > >> > Yeah we're getting the SDK for free, and the tools are great to work > >> with. > >> > Except for one little thing. Most of them don't work properly. I love > how > >> > they're still using command line apps, so e.g. I can call my compile > >> scripts > >> > directly from context menus. > >> > > >> > What I really miss is not having to spend 10 minutes on making the SDK > or > >> > tools run before I can actually test whatever I've changed or made. > >> > > >> > I'm setting the bar low, and not expecting any response from anyone at > >> > Valve, that way I won't be more disappointed. > >> > > >> > I guess I just needed to get it off my chest. > >> > > >> > > >> > I hope to hear from other people on this list, that feels the same > way, > >> or > >> > want to share their opinion on this matter. For those that find it > >> annoying > >> > to receive these kind of messages, feel free to mute the conversation. > >> > > >> > - ScarT > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > -- >From ~CzF|JS*~ J*Rod _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
