I like Valve but yeah, I've been vocal about my growing dislike of the
SDK for a while. Heck some numpty quotes me on the wiki page... :(
As a third-party SDK tool developer I've been smacking my head into
the desk with all the different versions for a while and it's a
nightmare keeping up with it. I'm getting to the point where I might
just stop because it feels like a colossal waste of my free time that
I could be using for something more rewarding.
As for the mod I'm working on - if I'd know using the Source SDK would
of been this much of a pain I'd of chosen something else from the
beginning. I reckon trying to keep up with SDK changes has put at
least 2 years onto our development time. So much for the "release soon
and release often" advice Valve pushed.
- Jed
On 28 October 2010 21:14, Tobias Kammersgaard
<tobias.kammersga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mike Durand introduced himself as a new employee at Valve, that's hired
to
> focus on the Source SDK, and updating it.
> I quote "My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they
need
> to build your games."
>
> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:13:13 -0700
> From: "Mike Durand" <mdur...@valvesoftware.com>
> To: <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Subject: [hlcoders] Upcoming SDK Release
> Reply-To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> Given the recent traffic on the list, it seems like a good time to
> introduce myself to everyone here, and talk about what I do at Valve.
>
> I started work here in June and have been given the task of working
> directly with the MOD community. This means that my primary
> responsibilities are to package and release the SDK, make it easier to
> use, and work with MOD makers on problems that they can't solve with
> the
> help of other members of the community.
>
> My full time job is to make sure that you have everything they need to
> build your games. I'll be hanging out on this list, as well as the VDC,
> but you can also feel free to contact me directly with any questions
> you
> have at mdur...@valvesoftware.com.
>
> So now that the introduction is out of the way here's the part that you
> really care about: an SDK update is coming out very soon. Right now we
> are testing it in-house and getting ready for its beta release. It will
> be available later this week unless we encounter serious problems
> during
> testing. I'll let people know either way, whether it is going to be
> this
> week or next. Once I get all of the details together, I'll send the
> info
> on what is coming in this SDK release to this list.
>
> -Mike
>
>
> That's four years ago. It pretty much went down hill since the Orange
> Box
> code was released. I remember in 2003 when Gabe Newell promoted Steam
> in
> several different interviews, saying how Steam would make publishing
updates
> to the end user way easier for them, yes its easier for them, but over
the
> years its just getting harder and harder for us working with the Source
SDK.
>
> I see a lot of people ditching the Source Engine over the UDK, and I'm
> starting to see why. I'm a big fan of Valve games, and I've defended
> the
> Source SDK and the Source engine many times.
>
> I didn't really recognize too much in the articles that's popped up
lately,
> such as these, and honestly I was a little offended.
>
> http://www.halflife2.net/2010/08/16/sdk-soul-destroying-kit/
>
http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/valve-you-should-be-ashamed-of-yourselves/
>
> Yeah we're getting the SDK for free, and the tools are great to work
with.
> Except for one little thing. Most of them don't work properly. I love
> how
> they're still using command line apps, so e.g. I can call my compile
scripts
> directly from context menus.
>
> What I really miss is not having to spend 10 minutes on making the SDK
> or
> tools run before I can actually test whatever I've changed or made.
>
> I'm setting the bar low, and not expecting any response from anyone at
> Valve, that way I won't be more disappointed.
>
> I guess I just needed to get it off my chest.
>
>
> I hope to hear from other people on this list, that feels the same way,
or
> want to share their opinion on this matter. For those that find it
annoying
> to receive these kind of messages, feel free to mute the conversation.
>
> - ScarT
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