Isn't there a moderator in charge of this list?
_pilger On 9 November 2017 at 14:22, Chris Dunphy <cdunph...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think that was the most embarrassing little "fight" I've ever seen on a > mailing list. No serious server owner should be this petty and willing to > fight on a *public mailing list for Team Fortress 2 updates*. At least > have the decency to be childish in private. > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:12 AM, James Haikin <jfrra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey bottiger? >> >> No >> >> One >> >> Cares >> >> -James >> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:10 PM, bottige...@gmail.com < >> bottige...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This complaint about economics is a red herring that "404 user not >>> found" was just using to slander us. Valve had no problems enforcing the >>> economic rules before by making plugin given hats and weapons invisible in >>> the game. If particles were really such a big deal, they would've made them >>> invisible already. They already actively enforce economic rules in CS:GO, a >>> game where community servers are also forced to be inferior to official >>> ones. If throwing community servers into the browser solved the econ >>> problem, then why didn't they remove invisible hats and weapons? So the >>> reality is that Valve still polices the economy regardless of community >>> servers being ghettoized or not. >>> >>> Also, back when plugin hats were still possible and rampant, we never >>> used it. So to paint us as some kind of serial anti-valve rule breaker is >>> simply wrong. >>> >>> I think at this point there is no real solution that Valve is interested >>> in doing, otherwise they would have done so a lot sooner now that it has >>> been what, about 3 years since community servers were removed from >>> quickplay? The idea to have white-listing cost money has been suggested >>> many times before and while it is a real solution, Valve does not seem to >>> be interested in this given the inaction. >>> >>> As I mentioned earlier, the most we could hope for is to have them throw >>> in a few community-server only contracts. But even if Valve somehow agreed >>> with the idea, I don't think it would be enough to stop the massive decline >>> that's going on right now. >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Rowedahelicon < >>> theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I think at least to stay on topic, there is a matter of the economy >>>> rules Valve set in place, which I've always felt have been very vague when >>>> it comes into really specific cases like this. Ideally speaking, I feel >>>> like if what constitutes as a "valve approved" server would be very bare >>>> bones, but if you want to run setups that one would find questionable is >>>> why you'd have separate servers for that reason >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:12 PM, bottige...@gmail.com < >>>> bottige...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You are upset that this thread is going a little off topic but I am >>>>> simply defending my community and at the same time refuting his silly >>>>> argument that pro-community actions are useless because we abuse Valve's >>>>> rules. >>>>> >>>>> We used to let accusations like this go uncontested and it resulted in >>>>> having our community being wrongfully mixed up with saigns and other >>>>> falsehoods. So we now aggressively fight them before they can spread. >>>>> >>>>> If he wants to stop his 7 year old grudge for being banned for racism >>>>> for 1 day and getting mad that we charge people for server benefits >>>>> instead >>>>> of running servers with welfare money like he did, then there wouldn't be >>>>> any reason to respond. >>>>> >>>>> I am sure that most people here would do the same instead of keeping >>>>> quiet. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Tohru Adachi <tohruada...@8chan.co> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ...Can we please stop with the drama, both of you? This isn't the >>>>>> place for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 09/11/2017 00:53, bottige...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Where exactly do you see that I'm selling unusuals? Because I'm not. >>>>>>> I don't sell anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hmm really, you want to prove you are blatantly lying again like you >>>>>> did on alliedmods with your alt account abrandnewday. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/nyuMwV0.png >>>>>> >>>>>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=243705 >>>>>> >>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/wLOj1oS.png >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Matthew (Rowedahelicon) Robinson* >>>> Web Designer / Artist / Writer >>>> Website - http://www.rowedahelicon.com/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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