Nope. On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:00 PM, pilger <pilger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Isn't there a moderator in charge of this list? > > > _pilger > > On 9 November 2017 at 14:22, Chris Dunphy <cdunph...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think that was the most embarrassing little "fight" I've ever seen on a >> mailing list. No serious server owner should be this petty and willing to >> fight on a *public mailing list for Team Fortress 2 updates*. At least >> have the decency to be childish in private. >> >> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:12 AM, James Haikin <jfrra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey bottiger? >>> >>> No >>> >>> One >>> >>> Cares >>> >>> -James >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:10 PM, bottige...@gmail.com < >>> bottige...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> This complaint about economics is a red herring that "404 user not >>>> found" was just using to slander us. Valve had no problems enforcing the >>>> economic rules before by making plugin given hats and weapons invisible in >>>> the game. If particles were really such a big deal, they would've made them >>>> invisible already. They already actively enforce economic rules in CS:GO, a >>>> game where community servers are also forced to be inferior to official >>>> ones. If throwing community servers into the browser solved the econ >>>> problem, then why didn't they remove invisible hats and weapons? So the >>>> reality is that Valve still polices the economy regardless of community >>>> servers being ghettoized or not. >>>> >>>> Also, back when plugin hats were still possible and rampant, we never >>>> used it. So to paint us as some kind of serial anti-valve rule breaker is >>>> simply wrong. >>>> >>>> I think at this point there is no real solution that Valve is >>>> interested in doing, otherwise they would have done so a lot sooner now >>>> that it has been what, about 3 years since community servers were removed >>>> from quickplay? The idea to have white-listing cost money has been >>>> suggested many times before and while it is a real solution, Valve does not >>>> seem to be interested in this given the inaction. >>>> >>>> As I mentioned earlier, the most we could hope for is to have them >>>> throw in a few community-server only contracts. But even if Valve somehow >>>> agreed with the idea, I don't think it would be enough to stop the massive >>>> decline that's going on right now. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Rowedahelicon < >>>> theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think at least to stay on topic, there is a matter of the economy >>>>> rules Valve set in place, which I've always felt have been very vague when >>>>> it comes into really specific cases like this. Ideally speaking, I feel >>>>> like if what constitutes as a "valve approved" server would be very bare >>>>> bones, but if you want to run setups that one would find questionable is >>>>> why you'd have separate servers for that reason >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:12 PM, bottige...@gmail.com < >>>>> bottige...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You are upset that this thread is going a little off topic but I am >>>>>> simply defending my community and at the same time refuting his silly >>>>>> argument that pro-community actions are useless because we abuse Valve's >>>>>> rules. >>>>>> >>>>>> We used to let accusations like this go uncontested and it resulted >>>>>> in having our community being wrongfully mixed up with saigns and other >>>>>> falsehoods. So we now aggressively fight them before they can spread. >>>>>> >>>>>> If he wants to stop his 7 year old grudge for being banned for racism >>>>>> for 1 day and getting mad that we charge people for server benefits >>>>>> instead >>>>>> of running servers with welfare money like he did, then there wouldn't be >>>>>> any reason to respond. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am sure that most people here would do the same instead of keeping >>>>>> quiet. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Tohru Adachi <tohruada...@8chan.co> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ...Can we please stop with the drama, both of you? This isn't the >>>>>>> place for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 09/11/2017 00:53, bottige...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where exactly do you see that I'm selling unusuals? Because I'm not. >>>>>>>> I don't sell anything. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmm really, you want to prove you are blatantly lying again like you >>>>>>> did on alliedmods with your alt account abrandnewday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/nyuMwV0.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=243705 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/wLOj1oS.png >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>>> please >>>>>>> visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Matthew (Rowedahelicon) Robinson* >>>>> Web Designer / Artist / Writer >>>>> Website - http://www.rowedahelicon.com/ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > -- Dave Parker '11 Database & Systems Administrator Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177
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