Well this service is a privilege, and if you want to ruin that with being an asshole, then don't be surprised if Valve axes the list.
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:50 PM, David Parker <dpar...@utica.edu> wrote: > Nope. > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:00 PM, pilger <pilger...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Isn't there a moderator in charge of this list? >> >> >> _pilger >> >> On 9 November 2017 at 14:22, Chris Dunphy <cdunph...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I think that was the most embarrassing little "fight" I've ever seen on >>> a mailing list. No serious server owner should be this petty and willing to >>> fight on a *public mailing list for Team Fortress 2 updates*. At least >>> have the decency to be childish in private. >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 11:12 AM, James Haikin <jfrra...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey bottiger? >>>> >>>> No >>>> >>>> One >>>> >>>> Cares >>>> >>>> -James >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:10 PM, bottige...@gmail.com < >>>> bottige...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This complaint about economics is a red herring that "404 user not >>>>> found" was just using to slander us. Valve had no problems enforcing the >>>>> economic rules before by making plugin given hats and weapons invisible in >>>>> the game. If particles were really such a big deal, they would've made >>>>> them >>>>> invisible already. They already actively enforce economic rules in CS:GO, >>>>> a >>>>> game where community servers are also forced to be inferior to official >>>>> ones. If throwing community servers into the browser solved the econ >>>>> problem, then why didn't they remove invisible hats and weapons? So the >>>>> reality is that Valve still polices the economy regardless of community >>>>> servers being ghettoized or not. >>>>> >>>>> Also, back when plugin hats were still possible and rampant, we never >>>>> used it. So to paint us as some kind of serial anti-valve rule breaker is >>>>> simply wrong. >>>>> >>>>> I think at this point there is no real solution that Valve is >>>>> interested in doing, otherwise they would have done so a lot sooner now >>>>> that it has been what, about 3 years since community servers were removed >>>>> from quickplay? The idea to have white-listing cost money has been >>>>> suggested many times before and while it is a real solution, Valve does >>>>> not >>>>> seem to be interested in this given the inaction. >>>>> >>>>> As I mentioned earlier, the most we could hope for is to have them >>>>> throw in a few community-server only contracts. But even if Valve somehow >>>>> agreed with the idea, I don't think it would be enough to stop the massive >>>>> decline that's going on right now. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Rowedahelicon < >>>>> theoneando...@rowedahelicon.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think at least to stay on topic, there is a matter of the economy >>>>>> rules Valve set in place, which I've always felt have been very vague >>>>>> when >>>>>> it comes into really specific cases like this. Ideally speaking, I feel >>>>>> like if what constitutes as a "valve approved" server would be very bare >>>>>> bones, but if you want to run setups that one would find questionable is >>>>>> why you'd have separate servers for that reason >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:12 PM, bottige...@gmail.com < >>>>>> bottige...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You are upset that this thread is going a little off topic but I am >>>>>>> simply defending my community and at the same time refuting his silly >>>>>>> argument that pro-community actions are useless because we abuse Valve's >>>>>>> rules. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We used to let accusations like this go uncontested and it resulted >>>>>>> in having our community being wrongfully mixed up with saigns and other >>>>>>> falsehoods. So we now aggressively fight them before they can spread. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If he wants to stop his 7 year old grudge for being banned for >>>>>>> racism for 1 day and getting mad that we charge people for server >>>>>>> benefits >>>>>>> instead of running servers with welfare money like he did, then there >>>>>>> wouldn't be any reason to respond. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am sure that most people here would do the same instead of keeping >>>>>>> quiet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Tohru Adachi <tohruada...@8chan.co> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...Can we please stop with the drama, both of you? This isn't the >>>>>>>> place for it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 09/11/2017 00:53, bottige...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Where exactly do you see that I'm selling unusuals? Because I'm >>>>>>>>> not. I don't sell anything. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmm really, you want to prove you are blatantly lying again like >>>>>>>> you did on alliedmods with your alt account abrandnewday. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/nyuMwV0.png >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=243705 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://i.imgur.com/wLOj1oS.png >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>>>> please >>>>>>>> visit:https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Matthew (Rowedahelicon) Robinson* >>>>>> Web Designer / Artist / Writer >>>>>> Website - http://www.rowedahelicon.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > > -- > Dave Parker '11 > Database & Systems Administrator > Utica College > Integrated Information Technology Services > (315) 792-3229 > Registered Linux User #408177 > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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