> From: john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
> Hum, we have 4 programmers here.

Instead of programmers I should have said ISPF users. This includes developers, 
sysprogs, analysts, end-users, DBA's, help desk (etc). If this still means 
there's only 4 people at your company that would use SimpList or IPT then 
obviously the savings wouldn't be as high. But, it would still be worth it. If 
it costs $50 an hour to employee an ISPF user (which is a pretty low estimate 
considering salary and benefits and premises etc) then a 10% improvement in 
productivity would save the company about $10,000 per year per user. Given that 
the annual license fee for SimpList is only $8,000 (regardless of the number of 
users or number of LPAR's), this means even a single user would result in 
savings for the company.
 
Dave Salt

SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! 

http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html  




> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:06:46 -0500
> From: john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
> Subject: Re: Real cost savings (was: 'Inexperienced' RBS tech operative's 
> blunder led to banking meltdown)
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dave Salt
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 1:20 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Real cost savings (was: 'Inexperienced' RBS tech 
> > operative's blunder led to banking meltdown)
> > 
> > If a company has 100 programmers and they cost an average of 
> > $50 an hour, and they use a tool like SimpList or IPT to 
> > improve their productivity by 10%, they could get rid of 10 
> > programmers or do 10% more work with the same number of 
> > programmers. Either way, that's a very REAL cost saving of 
> > ONE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. And if a company has 200 
> > programmers they'd have a REAL cost saving of two million 
> > dollars a year (and so on).
> 
> Hum, we have 4 programmers here. I don't know their real working hours. But I 
> doubt we could do with less. People do insist on sleep and vacations.
> 
> > 
> > Of course they'd have to deduct the cost of licensing the 
> > software ($8,000 for SimpList or ? for IPT), but it's still 
> > an ENORMOUS annual cost saving. And it's a very REAL cost 
> > saving; i.e. one that directly affects the bottom line. On 
> > top of that there's all the additional cost savings such as 
> > reduced training, reduced CPU, reduced storage, reduced 
> > printing, beating competitors to market, and much more (which 
> > by itself more than justifies the cost of the tool).
> > 
> > The fact that some PHB's can't comprehend this simple math is 
> > astonishing. Maybe they could 'save' even more money by 
> > getting rid of ISPF and telling all the programmers to use 
> > raw TSO?   ;-)
> >  
> 
> Naw, as Marie Antoinette said: "Let them use vi!". You might be amazed (or 
> disgusted, or sickened) at the stuff that I do on a z/OS UNIX shell prompt 
> (via ssh, not TSO OMVS). I won't say more because: (1) I know it wouldn't 
> work, and (2) last time I did, I got jumped all over for being a contemptible 
> fool.
> 
> Or perhaps I could see if the RPF used under MVS by the Hercules/390 users 
> would work on z/OS 1.12. At one time, I remember having a 3270 full screen 
> editor called FSE which worked. And I'd see if there is a Q command for z/OS 
> 1.12 (from CBT).
> 
> > Dave Salt
> 
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