The tools are only as good as the people using them. Like a camera, one of my hobbies , People would see my Canon F-1 at time make a judgement call on how good he pictures at with type of camera. It also depends onto mind and eye of the photographer. I fel the same way about programmers and tools...
Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Jun 27, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Dave Salt <ds...@hotmail.com> wrote: > If a company has 100 programmers and they cost an average of $50 an hour, and > they use a tool like SimpList or IPT to improve their productivity by 10%, > they could get rid of 10 programmers or do 10% more work with the same number > of programmers. Either way, that's a very REAL cost saving of ONE MILLION > DOLLARS A YEAR. And if a company has 200 programmers they'd have a REAL cost > saving of two million dollars a year (and so on). > > Of course they'd have to deduct the cost of licensing the software ($8,000 > for SimpList or ? for IPT), but it's still an ENORMOUS annual cost saving. > And it's a very REAL cost saving; i.e. one that directly affects the bottom > line. On top of that there's all the additional cost savings such as reduced > training, reduced CPU, reduced storage, reduced printing, beating competitors > to market, and much more (which by itself more than justifies the cost of the > tool). > > The fact that some PHB's can't comprehend this simple math is astonishing. > Maybe they could 'save' even more money by getting rid of ISPF and telling > all the programmers to use raw TSO? ;-) > > Dave Salt > > SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! > > http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html > > > > >> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:14:58 -0500 >> From: john.mck...@healthmarkets.com >> Subject: Re: 'Inexperienced' RBS tech operative's blunder led to banking >> meltdown >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> >> Maybe. But all we have here is TSO/ISPF/SDSF along with some CompuWare >> products (Xpeditor and AbendAid mainly) to help us with development and >> testing. If "we" could get away with it, we'd likely get rid of ISPF/SDSF >> (not CompuWare, it is off maintenance and is perm licensed) to reduce costs. >> We look only at cost. Not value. Not productivity. Cost only. That may >> loosen up, depending of what SCOTUS says about Obamacare. >> >> -- >> John McKown >> Systems Engineer IV >> IT >> >> Administrative Services Group >> >> HealthMarkets(r) >> >> 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 >> (817) 255-3225 phone * >> john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com >> >> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or >> proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please >> contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original >> message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and >> issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake >> Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of >> TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dave Salt >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 11:16 AM >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>> Subject: Re: 'Inexperienced' RBS tech operative's blunder led >>> to banking meltdown >>> >>>> From: john.mck...@healthmarkets.com >>>> I wonder if anybody has >>> done a study of productivity between "old style" development >>> using ISPF >>> and edit-compile-test versus using the RD/z Eclipse based software. >>>> >>> >>> Well if they did I hope they at least used SimpList or IPT >>> instead of vanilla ISPF, otherwise they'd be painting the >>> mainframe in a very unproductive and unfair light. >>> >>> Dave Salt >>> >>> SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it! >>> >>> http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
