Dave:
We do not need a hard sell on your product.
Ed
On Jun 27, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Dave Salt wrote:
From: john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
Hum, we have 4 programmers here.
Instead of programmers I should have said ISPF users. This includes
developers, sysprogs, analysts, end-users, DBA's, help desk (etc).
If this still means there's only 4 people at your company that
would use SimpList or IPT then obviously the savings wouldn't be as
high. But, it would still be worth it. If it costs $50 an hour to
employee an ISPF user (which is a pretty low estimate considering
salary and benefits and premises etc) then a 10% improvement in
productivity would save the company about $10,000 per year per
user. Given that the annual license fee for SimpList is only $8,000
(regardless of the number of users or number of LPAR's), this means
even a single user would result in savings for the company.
Dave Salt
SimpList(tm) - try it; you'll get it!
http://www.mackinney.com/products/program-development/simplist.html
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:06:46 -0500
From: john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
Subject: Re: Real cost savings (was: 'Inexperienced' RBS tech
operative's blunder led to banking meltdown)
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Subject: Real cost savings (was: 'Inexperienced' RBS tech
operative's blunder led to banking meltdown)
If a company has 100 programmers and they cost an average of
$50 an hour, and they use a tool like SimpList or IPT to
improve their productivity by 10%, they could get rid of 10
programmers or do 10% more work with the same number of
programmers. Either way, that's a very REAL cost saving of
ONE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. And if a company has 200
programmers they'd have a REAL cost saving of two million
dollars a year (and so on).
Hum, we have 4 programmers here. I don't know their real working
hours. But I doubt we could do with less. People do insist on
sleep and vacations.
Of course they'd have to deduct the cost of licensing the
software ($8,000 for SimpList or ? for IPT), but it's still
an ENORMOUS annual cost saving. And it's a very REAL cost
saving; i.e. one that directly affects the bottom line. On
top of that there's all the additional cost savings such as
reduced training, reduced CPU, reduced storage, reduced
printing, beating competitors to market, and much more (which
by itself more than justifies the cost of the tool).
The fact that some PHB's can't comprehend this simple math is
astonishing. Maybe they could 'save' even more money by
getting rid of ISPF and telling all the programmers to use
raw TSO? ;-)
Naw, as Marie Antoinette said: "Let them use vi!". You might be
amazed (or disgusted, or sickened) at the stuff that I do on a z/
OS UNIX shell prompt (via ssh, not TSO OMVS). I won't say more
because: (1) I know it wouldn't work, and (2) last time I did, I
got jumped all over for being a contemptible fool.
Or perhaps I could see if the RPF used under MVS by the Hercules/
390 users would work on z/OS 1.12. At one time, I remember having
a 3270 full screen editor called FSE which worked. And I'd see if
there is a Q command for z/OS 1.12 (from CBT).
Dave Salt
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