Unfortunately, you can't run a production system on a zPDT, it's not allowed under the agreement with IBM.
On Sat, 24 Jul 2021 05:41:56 +0000, kekronbekron <kekronbek...@protonmail.com> wrote: >And therein begins a new line where some company offers services to move small >machine workloads to zPDT. >Or whatever... > >- KB > >‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > >On Saturday, July 24th, 2021 at 9:51 AM, Brian Westerman ><brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote: > >> Did you think to have even ONE of those early sites be one with a small >> processor (single CPU) like a low end single CPU z/13, z14 or z15? Most >> likely you didn't and that's very sad. A good percentage of "new" clients >> that IBM has added over the past 5 to 8 years are in that boat and IBM has >> decided to set sail without them. >> >> I have no doubt that the early customers represented vast swaths of >> geographies and industries, but how low did you guys dip to test with a >> "small" site. The ones IBM called strategic so that they would not go to >> Open Systems and instead go with a small box and z/OS? >> >> It's very disappointing. Not all of the people IBM is ignoring have access >> to large and small boxes like I do, if you have a small box and want to >> upgrade after January to 2.5 from say 2.3, they will not be able to do it >> without beefing up their machine or coming to someone like us to do it for >> them. I'm not complaining about the business that IBM is pushing my way, but >> I think it's sad that IBM appears to care very little about the damage (via >> frustration) they are about to do. Some will buy an upgraded box, but many >> will simply drop their mainframe path in favor of some other direction (away >> from z/OS). >> >> Brian >> >> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 15:24:10 -0500, Marna WALLE mwa...@us.ibm.com wrote: >> >> > Brian, >> > >> > > > Some of the problem here is that you are telling me what "will" be >> > > > there, but I don't have anything that actually shows that or even >> > > > implies it for z/OSMF for z/OS. I don't even have the workflows to >> > > > verify anything. >> > >> > For the z/OS Workflows that you haven't seen yet, they are Workflow steps >> > that are submitting the same JCL jobs that you used to submit through the >> > ISPF interface and should be familiar with today. Meaning, instead of >> > using an ISPF panel to submit the job, you will now submit those same jobs >> > from the z/OSMF Workflow interface. That is the difference. The jobs >> > remain the same, in probably 99.99% of the cases. They are being converted >> > from ISPF JCL skeletons (SCPPSENU) to z/OSMF Workflow JCL templates (XML). >> > So yes, you haven't seen them in their XML format, but you certainly have >> > seen them when they were JCL skeletons. And remember, every single >> > Workflow step JCL that is submitted is able to be edited from z/OSMF, just >> > like it was with the CustomPac dialog. >> > >> > Might there be a conversion error to XML? Yes, of course that is possible. >> > But that is why we have my second comment below... >> > >> > > > People won't have much time between Late September and January to >> > > > discover and correct all of the bugs. >> > >> > For each z/OS new release, and V2.5 more than ever, there are early >> > customer programs. The release level early program for z/OS V2.5 has its >> > main focus on the installation of and upgrade to z/OS V2.5. We understood >> > that the installation process would be different and wanted as much >> > exposure, testing, and validation in customer environments before it GAs. >> > We have early customers that represent many different industries and >> > geographies. Each of these customers has installed with a z/OS V2.5 z/OSMF >> > ServerPac. Not a single one of them used the old ISPF ServerPac. >> > >> > -Marna WALLE >> > >> > z/OS System Install and Upgrade >> > >> > IBM Poughkeepsie >> > >> > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> > >> > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
