And therein begins a new line where some company offers services to move small machine workloads to zPDT. Or whatever...
- KB ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, July 24th, 2021 at 9:51 AM, Brian Westerman <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote: > Did you think to have even ONE of those early sites be one with a small > processor (single CPU) like a low end single CPU z/13, z14 or z15? Most > likely you didn't and that's very sad. A good percentage of "new" clients > that IBM has added over the past 5 to 8 years are in that boat and IBM has > decided to set sail without them. > > I have no doubt that the early customers represented vast swaths of > geographies and industries, but how low did you guys dip to test with a > "small" site. The ones IBM called strategic so that they would not go to Open > Systems and instead go with a small box and z/OS? > > It's very disappointing. Not all of the people IBM is ignoring have access to > large and small boxes like I do, if you have a small box and want to upgrade > after January to 2.5 from say 2.3, they will not be able to do it without > beefing up their machine or coming to someone like us to do it for them. I'm > not complaining about the business that IBM is pushing my way, but I think > it's sad that IBM appears to care very little about the damage (via > frustration) they are about to do. Some will buy an upgraded box, but many > will simply drop their mainframe path in favor of some other direction (away > from z/OS). > > Brian > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 15:24:10 -0500, Marna WALLE mwa...@us.ibm.com wrote: > > > Brian, > > > > > > Some of the problem here is that you are telling me what "will" be > > > > there, but I don't have anything that actually shows that or even > > > > implies it for z/OSMF for z/OS. I don't even have the workflows to > > > > verify anything. > > > > For the z/OS Workflows that you haven't seen yet, they are Workflow steps > > that are submitting the same JCL jobs that you used to submit through the > > ISPF interface and should be familiar with today. Meaning, instead of using > > an ISPF panel to submit the job, you will now submit those same jobs from > > the z/OSMF Workflow interface. That is the difference. The jobs remain the > > same, in probably 99.99% of the cases. They are being converted from ISPF > > JCL skeletons (SCPPSENU) to z/OSMF Workflow JCL templates (XML). So yes, > > you haven't seen them in their XML format, but you certainly have seen them > > when they were JCL skeletons. And remember, every single Workflow step JCL > > that is submitted is able to be edited from z/OSMF, just like it was with > > the CustomPac dialog. > > > > Might there be a conversion error to XML? Yes, of course that is possible. > > But that is why we have my second comment below... > > > > > > People won't have much time between Late September and January to > > > > discover and correct all of the bugs. > > > > For each z/OS new release, and V2.5 more than ever, there are early > > customer programs. The release level early program for z/OS V2.5 has its > > main focus on the installation of and upgrade to z/OS V2.5. We understood > > that the installation process would be different and wanted as much > > exposure, testing, and validation in customer environments before it GAs. > > We have early customers that represent many different industries and > > geographies. Each of these customers has installed with a z/OS V2.5 z/OSMF > > ServerPac. Not a single one of them used the old ISPF ServerPac. > > > > -Marna WALLE > > > > z/OS System Install and Upgrade > > > > IBM Poughkeepsie > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
