Brian,
>> Some of the problem here is that you are telling me what "will" be there, 
>> but I don't have anything that actually shows that or even implies it for 
>> z/OSMF for z/OS.  I don't even have the workflows to verify anything.  

For the z/OS Workflows that you haven't seen yet, they are Workflow steps that 
are submitting the same JCL jobs that you used to submit through the ISPF 
interface and should be familiar with today.  Meaning, instead of using an ISPF 
panel to submit the job, you will now submit those same jobs from the z/OSMF 
Workflow interface. That is the difference. The jobs remain the same, in 
probably 99.99% of the cases.  They are being converted from ISPF JCL skeletons 
(SCPPSENU) to z/OSMF Workflow JCL templates (XML).  So yes, you haven't seen 
them in their XML format, but you certainly have seen them when they were JCL 
skeletons.  And remember, every single Workflow step JCL that is submitted is 
able to be edited from z/OSMF, just like it was with the CustomPac dialog.  

Might there be a conversion error to XML?  Yes, of course that is possible.  
But that is why we have my second comment below...


>> People won't have much time between Late September and January to discover 
>> and correct all of the bugs.

For each z/OS new release, and V2.5 more than ever, there are early customer 
programs.  The release level early program for z/OS V2.5 has its main focus on 
the installation of and upgrade to z/OS V2.5. We understood that the 
installation process would be different and wanted as much exposure, testing, 
and validation in customer environments before it GAs.  We have early customers 
that represent many different industries and geographies.  Each of these 
customers has installed with a z/OS V2.5 z/OSMF ServerPac.  Not a single one of 
them used the old ISPF ServerPac.   

-Marna WALLE
z/OS System Install and Upgrade
IBM Poughkeepsie

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