We use LOGONBY to be able to log onto a test user whose profile has
nothing but class G authority.  It's great to be able to do final
testing to make sure that the final users have access to all necessary
functions.  Changing the privileges by default might negate some of
those results. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 12:54 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Ops privs

On Friday, 08/24/2007 at 11:54 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> In that case, FORCE and XAUTOLOG should be in a class that does not
include 
> SHUTDOWN. After all, why should we trust TCPIP any more than we do 
> other
users? 
> Who knows what information it is shipping to Chuckie unbeknownst to
us?

C says: "no no no.  it's fine.  really.  trust me.  (heh heh)"

There are some who believe that the authority to LOGON BY to a user
should implicitly allow:
- XAUTOLOG
- SET SECUSER or OBSERVER
- SEND (a la class C)
- FORCE
- SIGNAL SHUTDOWN

Thoughts?

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