I think expecting the community to get off their asses and do something is a perfectly valid thing to say. Sun's put a lot of blood, sweat, and tears in Java, lots of people have bet the house on the java framework, and sun's clearly been kind to the community in, amongst other things, open sourcing it, ensuring that those who did the bet the house on it have the secure knowledge that sun cannot pull the rug out from under them without that some community being able to counter the move by forking the code base of the openJDK. Some quid quo pro seems only fair.
What annoys me is the dichotomy of whining about lack of community effort and treating the community rather badly* when they try to actually toe the line and contribute within the narrow-ish bounds of the official route. If you look outside of those bounds, there's _loads_ of massive community effort going on in JVMland, starting with a gaggle of new programming languages that are all built on top of the JVM. *) Relatively speaking. I've met far worse stewards. It's just that complaining about lack of community effort indicates Sun wants more of it, which makes remarks about how sun's interaction with its community fair game. On Sep 29, 8:18 am, Alex Buckley <alex.buck...@sun.com> wrote: > On Sep 28, 7:39 pm, Richard Vowles <richard.vow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > This entire interview was a cop-out by Alex and Joe. Their argument > > boiled down to "look, Sun open sourced Java and now we don't have to > > do anything". > > In no way did Joe or I state or imply that Sun has "open sourced > Java". Sun has open sourced the JDK, its implementation of the Java SE > platform. The Java SE platform continues to be defined by the JCP. > Anyone who proposes changes to the Java language must ultimately > convince the JCP Executive Committee > -http://jcp.org/en/participation/committee > - of the importance and quality of their proposal. > > I'm pretty sure most listeners would not summarize our comments as > "now we don't have to do anything". > > Alex --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
