What I got out of the podcast was that each jdk has a some sort of priorty/theme. For jdk 7, it’s modularity. Like any other business resources are allocated based on achieving that priority. Modularity is the major change for jdk 7. While some of the additional coins proposals and feature requests found in the sun bug database would be technically good additions to java in general - the priorites have already been established for JDK 7 (modularity, dynamic lang support, annotations on types).
I think this is reasonable no? At this point, adding anything else would comprimise the stablity of the release I would think. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Richard Vowles <richard.vow...@gmail.com>wrote: > > I was *shocked* by what you said in this interview, absolutely > *shocked*. > > Yeah, you did. Particularly you, Joe seemed to leave more of it to you > this time, he said his piece and was blasted for it on his blog. Every > opportunity Dick gave you to redeem Sun in any way shape or form into > taking any kind of leadership in Java you stomped on with open ended > statements that didn't go anywhere or provide anything useful to any > part of the community. I'm also not sure who you are trying to kid > about the JSR/JCP process - I thought again that Dick was being very > polite. "Sun" decides to change Java and it gets changed, a JSR forms > out of it later (like Coin appeared to). Even before this interview, > the consensus feeling is that Sun has had a lock-down don't change > anything attitude for Java for some time. After the interview, which > such vehement anti-innovation rhetoric from you and Joe, it is clear > where this is coming from. > > I cannot see how Oracle could expect to invest in such an attitude > and I desperately hope they don't. I only hope it can be redeemed by > JDK 8. Still shocked. > > On Sep 29, 7:18 pm, Alex Buckley <alex.buck...@sun.com> wrote: > > On Sep 28, 7:39 pm, Richard Vowles <richard.vow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > This entire interview was a cop-out by Alex and Joe. Their argument > > > boiled down to "look, Sun open sourced Java and now we don't have to > > > do anything". > > > > In no way did Joe or I state or imply that Sun has "open sourced > > Java". Sun has open sourced the JDK, its implementation of the Java SE > > platform. The Java SE platform continues to be defined by the JCP. > > Anyone who proposes changes to the Java language must ultimately > > convince the JCP Executive Committee - > http://jcp.org/en/participation/committee > > - of the importance and quality of their proposal. > > > > I'm pretty sure most listeners would not summarize our comments as > > "now we don't have to do anything". > > > > Alex > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
