On Oct 1, 9:45 pm, Mark Derricutt <m...@talios.com> wrote: > My understanding of the process if that in order for a JSR to be filed you > need a spec, and an initial working implementation/proof of concept (in > general), which is why things like JPA/JPA2 came out of hibernate, > joda-time's jsr etc. > > Before coin can be proposed as a JSR, I would assume they'd need to detail > the changes that comprise the JSR, and not a blanket vague 'small changes' > description.
To *complete* a JSR, you require a spec, test suite and reference implementation. But in order to file a JSR you only really need a reasonably good statement of what the scope of the JSR is (sufficient for the Executive Committee voters to say yes or no). You do not need a spec. You do not need a working implementation. You do not need a proof of concept. (Yes, some JSRs arise that way, but it is not required). It was acceptable for Project Coin to wait until the "final five" were decided before creating the JSR. However, at that point, the JSR should have been created in order for the JCP to continue be relevant. Instead, implementations have been committed to Open JDK, something that requires a detailed spec to be be hanging about somewhere. Thus, there is no formal JCP Expert Group defining these new features, nor is there any evidence that there will be. I would also note that in the absence of a clear published spec for each of these additions, it is very hard for other organisations to write their own implementation of Java 7 (such as an alternate compiler, or IDE). As such, it becomes even more likely that the OpenJDK will become the only place to find JDK 7. (And remember that without a JSR, there is no such thing as Java 7 SE). Stephen --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
