Amen to that.... I tell these teachers who have kids read aloud  that it should 
only be done if they have allowed the reader to practice the paragraph he or 
she is to read in advance... by that I mean practice a lot... for his or her 
performance.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sally Caruso 

To: A list for improving literacy with focus on middle grades. , A list for 
improving literacy with focus on middle grades. 

Sent: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 20:07:41 +0000 (UTC)

Subject: Re: [LIT] (no subject)



YES! I am going to start using "it's performance, not literacy" as my new 
mantra!

Before I go on with my post, let me say that I rarely respond to topics on the 
list although I am a frequent reader here. I have been teaching 8th grade 
Language Arts for 16 years and I am the only one who reads aloud in my 
classroom because, for kids, reading aloud = decoding words ... PERIOD! I 
shudder - but then repeat the previous phrase, my old mantra - when colleagues 
tell me that so and so REALLY needs help with reading because of how he or she 
read aloud in class the other day! When will we stop making kids hate reading 
this way? Or by having to summarize everything they read (which is a whole 
other conversation)?

That said, I would also like to advise Jan, below, to keep working on the 
workshop model. It takes many weeks and much repetition to establish the 
rituals & routines associated with it, but is well worth it when you see the 
results!

Sally



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Sent: Sun 10/4/2009 3:45 PM

To: A list for improving literacy with focus on middle grades.

Subject: Re: [LIT] RtI







grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
  DIBELS.... my own personal belief is that no one should  ever have to read 
aloud without much rehearsal. Reading aloud is not a measure of 
comprehension...( if a kid reads the word "ham" when it should be "meat" in 
dibels, it is wrong, yet  according to all I learned in  read comp. when 
getting a masters in reading, "ham for meat" is evidence of comprehension, even 
if it is the wrong word called). The only people in the world that have to read 
aloud for a living are ministers, teachers, actors, and politicans... so why 
all this claptrap about reading aloud?  My first week of teaching... 44 years 
ago... involved me being dressed down by the reading specialist for having the 
kids read aloud... poor modleing...all rates of reading vary, and the bit from 
above of those who have to read aloud. I can not imagine dibeling in rws.  
Sorry for my smart alec response, but I can not imagine how the fluency frenzy 
got a toe hold in  literacy. It is performance, not literacy.  Bova

----- Original Message -----

From: [email protected]

To: "A list for improving literacy with focus on middle grades." 

Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 12:56:41 PM GMT -05:00 Colombia

Subject: [LIT] RtI



My middle school has just started writers workshop this year, and we will 
probably implement readers workshop next year.  We will probably also start RtI 
next year.



I love the workshop model although it has been harder to get going than I 
expected.



My question is about RtI.  The plan right now is that we will use DIBELS as a 
universal screener next fall and test all the students with DIEBELS three times 
a year.  From what I know about DIBELS, it seems contrary to the workshop model.



Is there a superintendent or middle school principal on this list willing to 
write me (off list) about DIBELS?  May I share your thinking with my principal? 
 

Thanks!

Jan



















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