Charles,

I'm really excited about shadowing, too!  I'm also really
excited about the comments regarding LEAF+LTSP.  This is a
great time for LTSP.  I sense a breaking story about "Linux
in the Enterprise" using LTSP and LRP/LEAF.  The
combination of these two advances could make LTSP as
powerful as Citrix/WinTSE!  With feature parity, the $0
price tag is a jaw-dropper!  :-)

Anyway...

1: "Pushing" a session --
I believe the original messages regarding the existence of
x0rfbserver were closely followed by someone mentioning a
presentation in western Canada (Vancouver?) in which people
were already doing this.  So, yes, x0rfbserver can be used
to "push" a session out for training.  This shouldn't be
hard to do, either.  Once you setup the source session, all
you have to do is fire up a bunch of viewers.  You could
devise any of a number of ways to do this...  A new menu
option on desktops or an auto-run command on login, if
everyone is supposed to see the demo....

2: "Passive Shadowing" (a.k.a. spying) --
The patches that add the -stealth option to x0rfbserver
effectively make exactly what your boss is asking for
possible (and it only took John Cuzzola one rainy Saturday
to add those).  With no intervention on the part of the
user, their session can be remotely observed without
interfering with the keyboard and mouse.  Even if you'd
setup encrypted email so that no one in between could
decypher it, the boss could just sit back and watch you
type it!  x0rfbserver is also distributed with a program
called rfbcat, which allows you to save x0rfbserver output
to a file, thus preserving the spyed upon session!

Jason


> From: "Charles Marcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] RE: X0rfbserver Citrix Server
semi-sol'n
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:40:54 -0400
> 
> I am very excited by the discussions for implementing
shadowing capability
> using X0rfbserver in LTSP, but had one question and one
comment...
> 
> Question:
> Will it be very simple to 'reverse' the concept, so that
someone (the Admin,
> or someone in the 'Trainers' Group) could *push* their
desktop out to multiple
> workstations (or all of them) for Training purposes?
> 
> A little 'Chat' window would come in quite handy too (for
both regular
> Shadowing, and Pushing).
> 
> Comment:
> As distasteful as it sounds, my boss has asked me about
the possibility of
> what I'll call 'Passive Shadowing', ie, shadowing
someones workstation without
> the ability to take it over, and *without them knowing
it*, so he can see what
> they are doing.
> 
> The reason for this is, we have a big problem with people
spending lots of
> time 'playing' on the internet when they should be
working, and the boss would
> like to be able to look in on them from time to time.

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