gav:
seems to me people still don't get what the word 'sustainability' means.
it is a word heard every day in the media but it is used unconsciously - it
is a buzzword i guess.
the reason i say this is because the concept of economic growth is still
seen as indispensable. and yet these two concepts are in direct opposition.
economic growth is the problem. we don't want growth - we want to sustain
ourselves in a dynamic balance with the planet.
growth for growth's sake is the self-destroying logic of cancer.

Good point gav. By sustainability you mean 'latching' in MoQ jargon?
It is an issue I threw into the discussion a few posts ago. As you say, the
difficulty is to latch an advance without closing the door on DQ.

So the question becomes what, when, and where to latch. Economic growth has
its own built in mechanism ensuring sustainability and dynamics. Many
products on the market can be improved upon and are continuously. On top of
this, new products are introduced (of course with its same imperfections)
and the cycle continues.

So what do you latch, where, when and how? Intellect must, can and is
playing a role in this process already. It is attempting to find a balance
between holding on to what has been achieved without these static patterns
closing the door on DQ. At this stage it does so within SOM.

It is setting "acceptable" standards of eg emmission out-puts, standards for
wages and conditions, literacy and numeracy, building standards etc etc. We
see 'family friendly' companies, 'green' investments, worker representation,
consumer rights etc etc.
These are very slow developments and are usually put in place 'after the
fact'. But we have to start somewhere.
I see these as examples of the little and big battles of intellect trying to
control society and these battles will continue for many years to come.

Education has a big role to play in this...great to hear that ZMM is on many
school's reading list.

The big problem is that we are still knee-deep (maybe even further down) in
biological patterns. Society is still battling it out with biological PoV's.

For what it's worth Andre
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