From: "Anne Wilson"

>No, but I wanted the convenience of being able to read from the dvd and
write
>to the cd-rw, but XCDroast couldn't see it.  I understand k3b (I think it's
>called) could do it anyway, so I'll look at that when I've a moment.

I haven't tried burning 'on-the-fly' with Linux, as yet. I can tell you it
didn't work for me under Windows 98 SE. Then again, it's not like I have a
lot of horsepower here. The pair of AMD K6-2/500's I have, have long since
lost their prime in running modern tech stuff. :-(

I haven't tried K3b yet. It sounds like a good alternative to eroast. I have
never been able to get XCDroast to work for me.

I am content to create image files of my CDs, then burn a CD-R from those
image files. I am not extracting content from a CD very often.

>I was under the impression, too, that it would not work for dvd film (as
>distinct from data) if it was not scsi emulated.  Is this not so?

I am not sure that I know what you are implying, but if it is about
extracting material from a DVD to go out onto a CD-R, I can tell you a
little of what I learned. Some of this is very OT and controversial, so you
can take that up with me off the listserv, if you want.

You can extract DVD movies and place them onto a CD-R, becoming VCD's in the
process. This means 'ripping' the content, decoding it, and then copying the
extract to a CD-R. You lose some quality, but the outcome is superior to
VHS. The contraversiality is obvious: in whether it is something you should
do. This can be done 'on-the-fly' under the Windows environment, but I have
not been able to do so, probably due to a lack of horsepower. I have never
tried ripping a DVD in Linux. I doubt that I could do it on-the-fly. A
multi-stage process is the only way it will work for me.

The other use is pulling program data, like the contents of an MDK 9.0
distro. I believe (I REALLY am guessing, as I have yet to acquire any DVDs
that have programs on them for the purpose of installing or providing
computer data) that you should be able to read that data as you would any
off a CD-ROM. Maybe those here that have installed from a DVD can tell you
for sure what to expect. It would seem that the only thing proprietary about
the contents of a DVD is in regards to movie format, not the filesystem, or
format of the volume. My take, as uninformed as I am.

Keep in mind that in a perfect answer, it is not best to put two devices
such as these on the same IDE channel. Some here have said they do it all
the time and never have problems. It could be because they are running very
fast systems that can accept the data flow without interruption. The
hardware is part of it, too. Some ROM drives go into sleep mode too early
for the likes of a reading CD-RW trying to write on-the-fly. The slower the
write speed, the greater the chance you will have the data ROM drive sleep
and neglect that CD-RW's data buffer. Using DMA on both drives probably
helps a lot here. There are some variables that go into what units work best
with others, and so forth. I wouldn't say that anything can be said for
certain for all cases without someone coming back with having made it work
otherwise.

>BTW - is your Liteon drive coupled with a cd-rw?  I'm curious after my
parts
>supplier talked of some incompatibilities.

Yes, I do run my Liteon on the same IDE channel as another ROM device. The
Liteon is master, the Phillips CD-RW is slave. As far as I can tell, they
both work as expected. The results I get in using both drives in MDK 9.0 is
pretty much the same as in Windows XP Pro. The only noticeable difference is
with the DVD in playing DVD movies. I found that WinDVD in XP outperforms
anything I have used in Linux so far. Less choppy and more stable.

T



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