Dear list: “*Now ‘prior’ and ‘better known’ are ambiguous terms, for there is a difference between what is prior and better known in the order of being and what is prior and better known to man. I mean that objects nearer to sense are prior and better known to man; objects without qualification prior and better known are those further from sense.*” ~Prior Analytics (*Posterior Analytics*)
I would recommend considering which of Peirce's tools is best for promoting movement and not simply the absurdity. Sorry, this above reference is from Posterior Analytics. I've been reading many of Aristotle's works in sequence and got mixed up. Best, Jerry R On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Stephen C. Rose <stever...@gmail.com> wrote: > Interesting. Just time for a daily walk! But to me I would be interested > in a discussion of binary versus triadic thinking and in some reflection on > the points at which ethics and aesthetics fit into a triadic pattern of > thinking. I am not sure what a modal realist is but I think the > realist-nominalist binary is largely over. I think most do not know where > we are in many ways and that that might well suggest some new thinking on > both ontology and teleology. There is a whole website called the immanent > frame that seems to suggest a unified sense in which we can attrbute > transcendence to the individual. Sorry for all this rambling but, these are > just some things I find of interest. Cheers, S > > Books http://buff.ly/15GfdqU > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Clark Goble <cl...@lextek.com> wrote: > >> >> On Jan 25, 2017, at 8:28 PM, Stephen C. Rose <stever...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Peirce was more than a pingpong ball in a long and repetitive exegetical >> battle involving I suppose the core group of this forum. But I have had >> enough. I simply will not open mail from the correspondents until >> something that is not a bnary ether-or argument that dwells on "what Peirce >> thinks" as though he has not changed himself in a century. Sorry for the >> rant and if I am alone in my reaction then I will willingly confess to >> having lost patience and being somewhat saddened by it all. >> >> >> It would be nice to push on to some other topics. Sorry for my part I may >> have played in all this. My own interests are philosophical. So while >> getting what Peirce said is important it’s more the philosophical arguments >> that matter to my eyes. >> >> To that line since I think we all agree that Peirce is at the end of life >> a modal realist, it’d be interesting trying to think through how one might >> respond to criticisms of modal realism. I’m here thinking less of what >> Peirce did say but how one might apply a Peircean inspired response to >> critics. >> >> The usual reason people don’t like modal realism is just that it seems >> inherently unintuitive. My sense is that usually that’s because they want >> to think in nominalistic terms of real material objects rather than >> recognizing possibilities aren’t mind-dependent. Often there’s also a kind >> of latent remnant of 19th century determinism at play. That is there’s an >> assumption that to be real is to be actual. >> >> A stronger reason to be skeptical of modal realism is ontological >> simplicity. Ockham’s Razor is often brought up which is funny given >> Ockham’s nominalism. Lewis’ approach here is to say he’s not asking you to >> believe in more things of a different kind merely more things of the same >> kind. I’ll confess that seems a bit of a dodge. Here again I think the >> issue is in assuming realism of possibilities is creating a new ontological >> entity. I’m not sure it is if we already have the notion of possibilities. >> That is there seems to be some sneaky shifting of possibility to possible >> world as if the two were ontologically different. That is again I think >> nominalism is sneaking in. To say something is real but not actual avoids >> the problem. That’s because all you are really saying is whether its being >> depends upon a finite number of minds, not what its being is. >> >> >> ----------------------------- >> PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON >> PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to >> peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L >> but to l...@list.iupui.edu with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the >> BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce >> -l/peirce-l.htm . >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ----------------------------- > PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to > peirce-L@list.iupui.edu . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L > but to l...@list.iupui.edu with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the > BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm > . > > > > > >
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