Edwina,
The misunderstanding is probably mine. Trichotomies are the sub-categories. Within the classification of sciences the order is: esthetics, ethics and logic. It is the scientific context. With society I am inclined to order thus: esthetics, logic, ethics. But indeed it is not the functional action that changes.
best,
Auke
Op 9 maart 2021 om 17:00 schreef Edwina Taborsky <[email protected]>:
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Auke, listI wonder if we are misinterpreting each other.
By 'context' with regard to the categories, what bothers me is that I don't feel that the nature or functional actions of the category changes according to context. That is, 1ns remains as Firstness; 2ns as 2ns, 3ns as 3ns. I don't see that their actions change whether one uses the categories within a cenoscopic research [ie, theoretical] versus an idioscopic [ie objective experimental of specific situations/things].
Now - what am I misunderstanding?
Edwina
On Tue 09/03/21 10:37 AM , "Auke van Breemen" [email protected] sent:Edwina,
You wrote:
1] I'm very hesitant to bring in the attribute of 'context' to analysis of the categories. I consider them universal forces - and am cautious that 'context' reduces them to relativistic forces.
For the cenoscopic list I agree, but I think that ideoscopic categories arise by the introduction of context.
Auke
Op 9 maart 2021 om 15:09 schreef Edwina Taborsky :
</[email protected]>Mike, list
Thanks for your comments - and - A few more comments:
1] I'm very hesitant to bring in the attribute of 'context' to analysis of the categories. I consider them universal forces - and am cautious that 'context' reduces them to relativistic forces.
You wrote: " 3ns is the future both because of its prescissive logic, and it represents the continuous whole to which the cosmos is equilibrating. In contrast, for local circumstances and objects, the generalizing continuity is towards habit acquisition, not necessarily a time construct such as the future"
As for the notion of 'future' - since, as I understand it, the Peircean future is open and abductive rather than determined, then I'm not sure that there is a 'continuous whole' in the future. And habit acquisition is in itself, open, even in its own actions of trying to restrict this openness! The incredible nature of Thirdness is that there are three modes! 3-3, 3-2 and 3-1. That inserts both actions: those of communal stability and those of local open contextuality. That ensures both stability and openness...
2] Yes, I prefer the 'umbrella-spoke' as an image of the triad. Peirce himself used it...1.347]. The thing about the umbrella spoke is that it can show how an Interpretant Relation can move into becoming an Object Relation in another triad. And, it shows that no triad is isolate; all are networked into a complex system..
3] You wrote: " Three others, close to the root of the root, that also give me a great deal of difficulty are 'space', 'time', and 'light' (photons). I tend to view 'light' at the actual transition between 1ns and 2ns, with both 'time' and 'space' following in 2ns thereafter:
Agree. With regard to time, as you know, I prefer Matsuno's analysis. As for space - difficult; As you know, following the analysis of Atmanspacher, I've divided space into four key zones expressed by the Relations: internal local 1-1; internal global 3-2; and external local 2-2 and external global 3-1. That leaves me with the problem of what I call the 'interface relation' of 2-1 which is both internal and external - and 3-3 which I view as aspatial and atemporal.
That is, I consider the six Peircean Relations as operating within specific attributes of both space and time.
With regard to 'light', I'd consider it free energy.
Edwina
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