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93% of the population of the empire and it's remnants were slaves between
310AD and 1789, continuous, unabated, with no rebellions.
Racial slavery was a late comer of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries.
'Serf' was another name for slave in much of Europe. 'Serfdom' came about
as of the end of chattel slavery upon the establishment of christianity when
the slaves were "freed" and became christian 'serfs' where their ownership
was detached from an individual and attached to the land. With the ascent
of christianity as the controllers and managers of Roman slavery, branding
on the forehead also ceased along with chattel rights, as all who were not
of 'noble' blood became 'serfs' or slaves, thus enslaving all the remnants
of free people in the empire. Racial slavery was a return to the chattel
slavery where one man had documented ownership of another, a paper title.
Jesus was a slave that started a clandestine anti-slavery movement that
plagued the empire for 300 years. The 'underground railroad' concept
actually got it's start in that movement. Getting nailed to a cross was a
punishment the Romans reserved for rebellious slaves, and the cross was a
symbol of terror held over the heads of their slaves for centuries before
the birth of Jesus. At the founding of christianity which was necessated by
the overwhelming impossible to control population of slaves, the
anti-slavery movement was quelled by the elevation of Jesus to deity status,
the re-aligning of the slaves to 'serfs', and the forcible establishment of
christianity as the only religion allowed by the state (the emperor). The
new testament was not released for another fifty or so years, until around
367AD, adequate time to create such a slave control document.. "Family
values" was established some forty years later as a means to maximize the
profits, character, and numbers of the slave population which was a major
determining factor in counting a "lord's" wealth. "Family values" failed
to overcome human evolution and produce the ideal mule-like slave because
the slaves were able to sneak around at night and learned to tolerate the
loveless "made in heaven" marriages that was forced on them by the church
priests. The absolute ban on contraception did enrich the "lords" however,
which is why they are so determined to cling to it now as they try to create
a new set of "lords" from among our rich fascist capitalists.
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From: "Hank Roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 3:10 PM
Subject: [pnews-views] Re: [pnews-news] Islam Means Death to Infidels
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> As was noted here before (by Sarah) there was a great deal of difference
> between slaves in the Torah and in the Roman world which didn't have the
> Church and didn't need the church to justify the practice. As correctly
> noted here by Sarah the slaves pre-Christianity/pre-Church were more like
> indentured servants, than chattel. Chattel slavery came later to the
> Christians and Christians were also largely responsible for opposing the
> practice. AnaBaptists and Quakers formed the heart of the Abolitionist
> Movement in America. Slavery was not necessary to maintain control but
> ideas are always controlling. I have said this before but you can't seem
> to get it - not that I expected otherwise.
>
> As for slavery today, YES, it is bad where it is used to keep women in
> bondage and prostitution against their will and the worst it can be in
> Islamic countries, in the Pacific and in Africa. Best to concentrate your
> concerns there with real problems than on divine rights which is largely
> ignored except by fundamentalists.
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> And FYI slavery proved to be very bad economics besides a moral problem.
> Slavery has never been very self sustaining. The maintenance of a breeding
> stock does not make economical sense. The plough can cultivate more than
> slaves can by hand and you have to feed slaves.
>
> Hank
>
> On Sat, 8 Apr 2006, Charles W. Smith wrote:
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> > "Of course the Church was totalitarian and so were all the
> > other autocrats and monarchs and dictators who have ruled since they
> > acquired power.
> >
> > I don't think you comprehend the implications of 'divine rights' which
means
> > that these despots are appointed by and supported by the church which
> > apparently received ten percent of the profits derived from slavery for
it's
> > services to them. That relationship seems to still exist between the
> > republicans and the church today as it tries to roll us back to the days
of
> > feudal (fascist) rule of capitalistic despots over slaves. These
despots of
> > old were the capitalists of their day, where their 'divine rights'
claims
> > were intended to quell the economic jealousies of the christian slaves
and
> > keep them meek and productive.
> >
> > From: "Sarah Blum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >> You are off your meds. They certainly were not that sophisticated. You
can
> >> make analogies with anything but that does not make it true nor does it
> > make
> >> it a conspiracy as you seem to think it is. Those who choose to look in
> > dark
> >> corners for inexplicable mysteries cloak your own confusion in
> >> conspiracies. Of course the Church was totalitarian and so were all the
> >> other autocrats and monarchs and dictators who have ruled since they
> >> acquired power. The only think morphed here is your common sense. Try
to
> > get
> >> it back. And stop listening to those voices in your head. You are not
God
> >> and God is not listening.
> >> Neither is the Church.... or the protestants who advanced the work
ethic.
> >>
> >> Sarah
> >>
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