Opposition to DOMA repeal was among YOUR criteria for Mark being a homophobic fascist.
Obama opposes it too, and it was Clinton's friggin idea. So I asked if they are homophobic fascists as well. The non-answer says it all. On Dec 23, 10:19 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > Wromng again. You misenterpret literal and figurative meanings in both > of your offensive statements. You fail to comprehend that the > President favors full civil rights equality, but that he struggles > with his personal Marriage beliefs. > > On 12/23/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > President Obama has stated that he is struggling with this issue, and > > that he is open to evolving and changing his personal opinion. > > > The literal meaning of the above is that his opinion is that it is just fine > > as it is and he is willing to string you along. > > > The President favors full civil union equality with equal rights and > > benefits for same sex couples, and the repeal of DOMA. > > > Funny, but you said just the opposite in the first (and only other) > > sentence. > > > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> President Obama has stated that he is struggling with this issue, and > >> that he is open to evolving and changing his personal opinion. > >> The President favors full civil union equality with equal rights and > >> benefits for same sex couples, and the repeal of DOMA. > > >> On 12/23/10, GregfromBoston <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > You oppose the repeal of DOMA, which discriminates against legally > >> > married same sex couples who only want equal Federal marriage > >> > benefits > >> > such as social security and joint tax returns, etc. > >> > --------------------------------------- > > >> > So does President Obama, as did Clinton before him > > >> > Are they, "homophobic Reich wingnut fascists" too? > > >> > On Dec 23, 9:52 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Lil Keithie Kieth > > >> >> I am very sorry that you are such a homophobic Reich wingnut fascist. > > >> >> To repeat again, > > >> >> Don't you believe that when you called me "Asshole" "Moonbat" > >> >> "Marxist" "Socialist" > >> >> "Young Tommy" "Lil Tom Tom" "Ignorant" etc. you were being hateful, > >> >> smearing and hurting me, and lying? > > >> >> I believe you are telling lies again.You have demonstrated again and > >> >> again that you do NOT hold "beliefs of equality for all" as you falsely > >> >> claim. > > >> >> You oppose the repeal of DADT, which has ruined thousands of lives and > >> >> careers. > > >> >> You oppose the repeal of DOMA, which discriminates against legally > >> >> married same sex couples who only want equal Federal marriage benefits > >> >> such as social security and joint tax returns, etc. > > >> >> You oppose Civil Marriage Equality for same sex couples. Civil Unions > >> >> and domestic partnerships are lesser, unequal contracts with fewer > >> >> benefits and rights. > > >> >> You oppose UAFA, and favor tearing loving same sex families apart > >> >> through deportation. > > >> >> You appear to falsely believe that being gay is a choice and a > >> >> lifestyle, which it is not. > > >> >> You believe that all gays are flamboyant chaps wearing cross dressing > >> >> exhibitionist sex fiends, which most are not. Most dress better and > >> >> more conservatively than you do. Many are chaste and celebate. > > >> >> You, Keith, by your own admissions, are a prejudiced misguided > >> >> misinformed homophobic Reich wingnut bigot with a dirty mind. Yes, you > >> >> are. > > >> >> On 12/23/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> > LilMarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews, > > >> >> > How, or why would you make such a slanderous statement as that? Can > >> >> > you > >> >> > point to something that would make you say such a hateful lie and a > >> >> > smear > >> >> > against my person? > > >> >> > Either point to a post, with the quote, or make an apology. One or > >> the > >> >> > other, > > >> >> > KeithInTampa > > >> >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> > >> >> > wrote: > > >> >> >> Keith does not champion gays as equals. > >> >> >> He sees them as second class citizens. > > >> >> >> On 12/22/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> > Tommy, > > >> >> >> > Where is the need to champion ANY group when you champion all as > >> >> >> > equals > >> >> >> ?? > > >> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News <[email protected] > > >> >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> Keith- > > >> >> >> >> Although you flippantly state that "Yea, I am an arrogant > >> asshole", > >> >> >> >> you are in fact a misguided homophobe, as you have demonstrated > >> >> >> >> clearly in your anti-gay statements in these groups. > > >> >> >> >> I suggest that you make youself a New Year's resolution to become > >> an > >> >> >> >> ally, champion, and advocate for your oppressed gay friends and > >> >> >> >> group > >> >> >> >> members, as other Republicans have done. > > >> >> >> >> Merry Christmas. > > >> >> >> >> On 12/20/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > Hey Wayne! > > >> >> >> >> > How do ya think stereotypes get started? Any truth to them? > > >> >> >> >> > Hey Vince! > > >> >> >> >> > Well, the last thing I wanted to come across as, was > >> >> >> >> > condescending! > >> >> >> >> > Yea, > >> >> >> >> I > >> >> >> >> > am an arrogant asshole, but usually a pretty friendly asshole! > >> >> >> >> > Nope, > >> >> >> >> > not > >> >> >> >> > pacifying anyone, ya wanna hear the truth? Come on over and I > >> >> >> >> > will > >> >> >> >> > shed > >> >> >> >> > the light for ya! > > >> >> >> >> > Good to see ya, and Merry Christmas! > > >> >> >> >> > KeithInDC > > >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:03 PM, vince brackney > >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >> You know it isn't really worth the effort to get Keith to see > >> the > >> >> >> other > >> >> >> >> >> side of the coin. Nothing more condescending than someone who > >> >> >> >> >> claims > >> >> >> >> they > >> >> >> >> >> are not prejudice and then make the statements that he does. > >> >> >> >> >> It > >> >> >> >> >> like > >> >> >> >> >> saying > >> >> >> >> >> I have gay friends so I am not a hater, when really they are > >> just > >> >> >> >> >> pacifying > >> >> >> >> >> us. > > >> >> >> >> >> He is really saying these things based on his experience of > >> years > >> >> >> ago, > >> >> >> >> and > >> >> >> >> >> I suspect that was before DADT was even in existence. He has > >> >> >> >> >> opinion > >> >> >> >> just > >> >> >> >> >> like everyone else. And everyone has the right to his or hers > >> own > >> >> >> >> opinion. > >> >> >> >> >> I > >> >> >> >> >> just wish it wasn't aired in this group. > > >> >> >> >> >> I am very thankful for the straight friends I do have that are > >> >> >> >> >> truly > >> >> >> >> >> not > >> >> >> >> >> prejudice and except me for who I am. Wish we had more of them > >> in > >> >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> >> world. > > >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:26 PM, wayne berry > >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> > >> >> >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >>> oh god, keith, i love ya! but do not tell me that you really > >> >> >> >> >>> can't > >> >> >> see > >> >> >> >> >>> the > >> >> >> >> >>> forest for the trees? > >> >> >> >> >>> heterosexuality represents 90% of the population. in fact if > >> >> >> >> >>> i > >> >> >> >> >>> am > >> >> >> not > >> >> >> >> >>> carrying a CD by madonna in my rainbow colored purse, no one > >> >> >> >> >>> ever > >> >> >> >> >>> suspects > >> >> >> >> >>> i'm gay! no one suspects my husband is bisexual even when he > >> >> >> >> >>> says > >> >> >> >> >>> judas > >> >> >> >> >>> priest is his favorite metal band! because most people are > >> >> >> >> >>> straight, > >> >> >> >> the > >> >> >> >> >>> assumption both gays AND straights operate under is that when > >> >> >> >> >>> you > >> >> >> meet > >> >> >> >> a > >> >> >> >> >>> man > >> >> >> >> >>> you recognize that odds are pretty good he likes the ladies - > >> >> >> >> >>> you > >> >> >> got > >> >> >> >> >>> a > >> >> >> >> 9 > >> >> >> >> >>> in > >> >> >> >> >>> 10 chance and rarely will you be wrong. except when you ARE > >> >> >> >> >>> wrong. > >> >> >> >> >>> stereotypes exist because in any group you can name there are > >> >> >> >> >>> often > >> >> >> >> >>> people > >> >> >> >> >>> who fit certain ideas that are recognized - some jews ARE > >> cheap, > >> >> >> some > >> >> >> >> >>> white > >> >> >> >> >>> people ARE incredibly "uptight", some gays DO prefer flowers > >> to > >> >> >> >> >>> football... > >> >> >> >> >>> but within any stereotype there are plenty enough dissonances > >> to > >> >> >> >> >>> reveal > >> >> >> >> a > >> >> >> >> >>> stereotype for what it is... a careless and casual painting > >> >> >> >> >>> of > >> a > >> >> >> large > >> >> >> >> >>> group > >> >> >> >> >>> of people as being all the same, when indeed none of us are. > >> >> >> >> >>> no one has to say they are straight because there are so many > >> of > >> >> >> >> >>> you > >> >> >> >> that > >> >> >> >> >>> you can scarcely imagine people who are not like you. > >> >> >> >> >>> my jobs in kitchens are not as regimented as the military, > >> >> >> >> >>> yet > >> >> >> there's > >> >> >> >> >>> still a certain amount of macho involved in the job! but here > >> is > >> >> >> >> >>> the > >> >> >> >> >>> thing... in all but the most antiseptic atmospheres, someone > >> is > >> >> >> gonna > >> >> >> >> ask > >> >> >> >> >>> you about your life outside the job. and there is nothing > >> >> >> >> >>> that > >> >> >> sounds > >> >> >> >> >>> worse > >> >> >> >> >>> than saying you don't have a girlfriend or a wife or even > >> >> >> >> >>> just > >> >> >> >> >>> some > >> >> >> >> girl > >> >> >> >> >>> you > >> >> >> >> >>> bang now and again, than saying, "oh, i'm sorry i don't talk > >> >> >> >> >>> about > >> >> >> >> >>> personal > >> >> >> >> >>> stuff like that." or weirder if you constantly avoid the > >> >> >> >> >>> question. > >> >> >> >> >>> when > >> >> >> >> >>> there is no penalty for telling the truth you are much less a > >> >> >> >> >>> freak > >> >> >> >> when > >> >> >> >> >>> you > >> >> >> >> >>> answer truthfully, "well, no i don't have a wife or a > >> >> >> >> >>> girlfriend... > >> >> >> >> >>> i'm > >> >> >> >> >>> gay > >> >> >> >> >>> and i have a husband/boyfriend... 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