Icannot speak for President Obama. You will have to address that question directly to him.
Use the Contact Form and Look at the Civil Rights section while you are here: www.whitehouse.gov On 12/23/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: > Tommy, > > Then please explain why he needs to change his opinion at all. > > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Wromng again. You misenterpret literal and figurative meanings in both >> of your offensive statements. You fail to comprehend that the >> President favors full civil rights equality, but that he struggles >> with his personal Marriage beliefs. >> >> >> On 12/23/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> > President Obama has stated that he is struggling with this issue, and >> > that he is open to evolving and changing his personal opinion. >> > >> > The literal meaning of the above is that his opinion is that it is just >> fine >> > as it is and he is willing to string you along. >> > >> > The President favors full civil union equality with equal rights and >> > benefits for same sex couples, and the repeal of DOMA. >> > >> > Funny, but you said just the opposite in the first (and only other) >> > sentence. >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> President Obama has stated that he is struggling with this issue, and >> >> that he is open to evolving and changing his personal opinion. >> >> The President favors full civil union equality with equal rights and >> >> benefits for same sex couples, and the repeal of DOMA. >> >> >> >> On 12/23/10, GregfromBoston <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > You oppose the repeal of DOMA, which discriminates against legally >> >> > married same sex couples who only want equal Federal marriage >> >> > benefits >> >> > such as social security and joint tax returns, etc. >> >> > --------------------------------------- >> >> > >> >> > So does President Obama, as did Clinton before him >> >> > >> >> > Are they, "homophobic Reich wingnut fascists" too? >> >> > >> >> > On Dec 23, 9:52 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Lil Keithie Kieth >> >> >> >> >> >> I am very sorry that you are such a homophobic Reich wingnut >> >> >> fascist. >> >> >> >> >> >> To repeat again, >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't you believe that when you called me "Asshole" "Moonbat" >> >> >> "Marxist" "Socialist" >> >> >> "Young Tommy" "Lil Tom Tom" "Ignorant" etc. you were being hateful, >> >> >> smearing and hurting me, and lying? >> >> >> >> >> >> I believe you are telling lies again.You have demonstrated again and >> >> >> again that you do NOT hold "beliefs of equality for all" as you >> falsely >> >> >> claim. >> >> >> >> >> >> You oppose the repeal of DADT, which has ruined thousands of lives >> and >> >> >> careers. >> >> >> >> >> >> You oppose the repeal of DOMA, which discriminates against legally >> >> >> married same sex couples who only want equal Federal marriage >> benefits >> >> >> such as social security and joint tax returns, etc. >> >> >> >> >> >> You oppose Civil Marriage Equality for same sex couples. Civil >> >> >> Unions >> >> >> and domestic partnerships are lesser, unequal contracts with fewer >> >> >> benefits and rights. >> >> >> >> >> >> You oppose UAFA, and favor tearing loving same sex families apart >> >> >> through deportation. >> >> >> >> >> >> You appear to falsely believe that being gay is a choice and a >> >> >> lifestyle, which it is not. >> >> >> >> >> >> You believe that all gays are flamboyant chaps wearing cross >> >> >> dressing >> >> >> exhibitionist sex fiends, which most are not. Most dress better and >> >> >> more conservatively than you do. Many are chaste and celebate. >> >> >> >> >> >> You, Keith, by your own admissions, are a prejudiced misguided >> >> >> misinformed homophobic Reich wingnut bigot with a dirty mind. Yes, >> you >> >> >> are. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/23/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > LilMarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews, >> >> >> >> >> >> > How, or why would you make such a slanderous statement as that? >> Can >> >> >> > you >> >> >> > point to something that would make you say such a hateful lie and >> >> >> > a >> >> >> > smear >> >> >> > against my person? >> >> >> >> >> >> > Either point to a post, with the quote, or make an apology. One >> >> >> > or >> >> the >> >> >> > other, >> >> >> >> >> >> > KeithInTampa >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Tommy News <[email protected] >> > >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Keith does not champion gays as equals. >> >> >> >> He sees them as second class citizens. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/22/10, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Tommy, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Where is the need to champion ANY group when you champion all >> >> >> >> > as >> >> >> >> > equals >> >> >> >> ?? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News < >> [email protected] >> >> > >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Keith- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Although you flippantly state that "Yea, I am an arrogant >> >> asshole", >> >> >> >> >> you are in fact a misguided homophobe, as you have >> >> >> >> >> demonstrated >> >> >> >> >> clearly in your anti-gay statements in these groups. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I suggest that you make youself a New Year's resolution to >> become >> >> an >> >> >> >> >> ally, champion, and advocate for your oppressed gay friends >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> group >> >> >> >> >> members, as other Republicans have done. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Merry Christmas. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/20/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > Hey Wayne! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > How do ya think stereotypes get started? Any truth to them? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hey Vince! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Well, the last thing I wanted to come across as, was >> >> >> >> >> > condescending! >> >> >> >> >> > Yea, >> >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> >> > am an arrogant asshole, but usually a pretty friendly >> asshole! >> >> >> >> >> > Nope, >> >> >> >> >> > not >> >> >> >> >> > pacifying anyone, ya wanna hear the truth? Come on over >> >> >> >> >> > and >> I >> >> >> >> >> > will >> >> >> >> >> > shed >> >> >> >> >> > the light for ya! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Good to see ya, and Merry Christmas! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > KeithInDC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:03 PM, vince brackney >> >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You know it isn't really worth the effort to get Keith to >> see >> >> the >> >> >> >> other >> >> >> >> >> >> side of the coin. Nothing more condescending than someone >> who >> >> >> >> >> >> claims >> >> >> >> >> they >> >> >> >> >> >> are not prejudice and then make the statements that he >> >> >> >> >> >> does. >> >> >> >> >> >> It >> >> >> >> >> >> like >> >> >> >> >> >> saying >> >> >> >> >> >> I have gay friends so I am not a hater, when really they >> >> >> >> >> >> are >> >> just >> >> >> >> >> >> pacifying >> >> >> >> >> >> us. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> He is really saying these things based on his experience of >> >> years >> >> >> >> ago, >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> >> I suspect that was before DADT was even in existence. He >> has >> >> >> >> >> >> opinion >> >> >> >> >> just >> >> >> >> >> >> like everyone else. And everyone has the right to his or >> hers >> >> own >> >> >> >> >> opinion. >> >> >> >> >> >> I >> >> >> >> >> >> just wish it wasn't aired in this group. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I am very thankful for the straight friends I do have that >> are >> >> >> >> >> >> truly >> >> >> >> >> >> not >> >> >> >> >> >> prejudice and except me for who I am. Wish we had more of >> them >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >> world. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 7:26 PM, wayne berry >> >> >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> oh god, keith, i love ya! but do not tell me that you >> really >> >> >> >> >> >>> can't >> >> >> >> see >> >> >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >> >> >> >>> forest for the trees? >> >> >> >> >> >>> heterosexuality represents 90% of the population. in fact >> if >> >> >> >> >> >>> i >> >> >> >> >> >>> am >> >> >> >> not >> >> >> >> >> >>> carrying a CD by madonna in my rainbow colored purse, no >> one >> >> >> >> >> >>> ever >> >> >> >> >> >>> suspects >> >> >> >> >> >>> i'm gay! no one suspects my husband is bisexual even when >> he >> >> >> >> >> >>> says >> >> >> >> >> >>> judas >> >> >> >> >> >>> priest is his favorite metal band! because most people are >> >> >> >> >> >>> straight, >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >>> assumption both gays AND straights operate under is that >> when >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >> >> >> >> meet >> >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> >> >>> man >> >> >> >> >> >>> you recognize that odds are pretty good he likes the >> >> >> >> >> >>> ladies >> - >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >> >> >> >> got >> >> >> >> >> >>> a >> >> >> >> >> 9 >> >> >> >> >> >>> in >> >> >> >> >> >>> 10 chance and rarely will you be wrong. except when you >> >> >> >> >> >>> ARE >> >> >> >> >> >>> wrong. >> >> >> >> >> >>> stereotypes exist because in any group you can name there >> are >> >> >> >> >> >>> often >> >> >> >> >> >>> people >> >> >> >> >> >>> who fit certain ideas that are recognized - some jews ARE >> >> cheap, >> >> >> >> some >> >> >> >> >> >>> white >> >> >> >> >> >>> people ARE incredibly "uptight", some gays DO prefer >> flowers >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> >>> football... >> >> >> >> >> >>> but within any stereotype there are plenty enough >> dissonances >> >> to >> >> >> >> >> >>> reveal >> >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> >> >>> stereotype for what it is... a careless and casual >> >> >> >> >> >>> painting >> >> >> >> >> >>> of >> >> a >> >> >> >> large >> >> >> >> >> >>> group >> >> >> >> >> >>> of people as being all the same, when indeed none of us >> are. >> >> >> >> >> >>> no one has to say they are straight because there are so >> many >> >> of >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >> >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> >> >>> you can scarcely imagine people who are not like you. >> >> >> >> >> >>> my jobs in kitchens are not as regimented as the military, >> >> >> >> >> >>> yet >> >> >> >> there's >> >> >> >> >> >>> still a certain amount of macho involved in the job! but >> here >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >> >> >> >>> thing... in all but the most antiseptic atmospheres, >> someone >> >> is >> >> >> >> gonna >> >> >> >> >> ask >> >> >> >> >> >>> you about your life outside the job. and there is nothing >> >> >> >> >> >>> that >> >> >> >> sounds >> >> >> >> >> >>> worse >> >> >> >> >> >>> than saying you don't have a girlfriend or a wife or even >> >> >> >> >> >>> just >> >> >> >> >> >>> some >> >> >> >> >> girl >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >> >> >> >> >> >>> bang now and again, than saying, "oh, i'm sorry i don't >> talk >> >> >> >> >> >>> about >> >> >> >> >> >>> personal >> >> >> >> >> >>> stuff like that." or weirder if you constantly avoid the >> >> >> >> >> >>> question. >> >> >> >> >> >>> when >> >> >> >> >> >>> there is no penalty for telling the truth you are much >> >> >> >> >> >>> less >> a >> >> >> >> >> >>> freak >> >> >> >> >> when >> >> >> >> >> >>> you >> >> >> >> >> >>> answer truthfully, "well, no i don't have a wife or a >> >> >> >> >> >>> girlfriend... >> >> >> >> >> >>> i'm >> >> >> >> >> >>> gay >> >> >> >> >> >>> and i have a husband/boyfriend... ' or even, "i'm not >> seeing >> >> >> >> >> >>> anyone >> >> >> >> >> >>> 'special' right now, but i'm doing OK, if ya catch my >> drift." >> >> >> >> >> >>> i mean on one hand being gay informs a lot of my life (my >> >> tastes >> >> >> >> >> >>> are >> >> >> >> >> >>> somewhat different from yours, observably, aren't they?) >> but >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> >>> the >> >> >> >> >> most >> >> >> >> >> >>> mundane aspects of life - the need for personal >> >> >> >> >> >>> connection, >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >>> need >> >> >> >> >> >>> to >> >> >> >> >> >>> eat, >> >> >> >> >> >>> the need to have some sort of meaning in your work? it's >> the >> >> >> >> >> >>> same >> >> >> >> for >> >> >> >> >> >>> a >> >> >> >> >> >>> straight guy as a gay guy. >> >> >> >> >> >>> i really can't understand your need to cling to a fairly >> >> >> >> >> >>> outdated >> >> >> >> >> concept >> >> >> >> >> >>> of what a gay man is when you are the moderator of a group >> >> that >> >> >> >> gives >> >> >> >> >> you >> >> >> >> >> >>> every evidence of a gay men who are far from those >> >> stereotypical >> >> >> >> >> >>> pictures. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Keith In Tampa >> >> >> >> >> >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Hello Mustang! Good to see ya! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> First, I knew, when I wrote my initial missive, that >> >> >> >> >> >>>> there >> >> >> >> >> >>>> would >> >> >> >> >> >>>> be >> >> >> >> >> >>>> at >> >> >> >> >> >>>> least one thinking, "common sense" kinda guy (<Grin!!> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> asshole!!) >> >> >> >> >> >>>> who >> >> >> >> >> >>>> would >> >> >> >> >> >>>> call me on my last missive! Touche'! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> It is in fact a hard concept that I was attempting to >> >> frame, >> >> >> >> >> >>>> and >> >> >> >> >> >>>> you >> >> >> >> >> >>>> are correct....Sort of. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Yes, as I stated, the military cultivates a "Macho" >> >> >> >> >> >>>> image, >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> >>>> it >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> >>>> hard >> >> >> >> >> >>>> to not separate the Macho Man who is the ladies' man. >> This >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in >> >> >> >> >> direct >> >> >> >> >> >>>> conflict with my statement that the military does not >> allow >> >> for >> >> >> >> those >> >> >> >> >> >>>> who >> >> >> >> >> >>>> wear their sexual identity on their sleeve. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> There are a number of men in the military who do in fact >> >> >> >> >> >>>> play >> >> >> >> >> >>>> the >> >> >> >> >> >>>> "cassanova" role. I will admit that to a degree, this is >> a >> >> >> >> >> >>>> double >> >> >> >> >> >>>> standard >> >> >> >> >> >>>> and in conflict with my premise. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Having said that, in my 53 years, I have yet to meet a >> >> >> >> Heterosexual, >> >> >> >> >> who >> >> >> >> >> >>>> identifies himself as a, "Heterosexual". That his whole >> >> >> >> >> >>>> life >> >> >> >> >> >>>> revolves >> >> >> >> >> >>>> around being, "Heterosexual". His politics; his social >> >> life; >> >> >> >> his >> >> >> >> >> >>>> mannerisms; his diet; his wardrobe; his decor; his >> >> passions, >> >> >> >> likes, >> >> >> >> >> >>>> dislikes, hatreds, loves, and yes, sexual appetite, are >> all >> >> >> >> >> >>>> defined >> >> >> >> >> >>>> by >> >> >> >> >> >>>> his >> >> >> >> >> >>>> "Straightness". >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Please point this/these individual(s) out to me. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Therein lies the distinction, and no, nothing about the >> >> repeal >> >> >> >> >> >>>> of >> >> >> >> >> >>>> DADT >> >> >> >> >> >>>> will change the rejection by the United States Military >> >> >> >> >> >>>> on >> >> this >> >> >> >> >> >>>> one >> >> >> >> >> >>>> major >> >> >> >> >> >>>> issue, of Gay men or women who choose to defend our >> Nation. >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Just >> >> >> >> >> >>>> like >> >> >> >> >> >>>> their >> >> >> >> >> >>>> straight counterparts, they cannot and will not be able >> to >> >> >> >> broadcast >> >> >> >> >> >>>> their >> >> >> >> >> >>>> sexual proclivities, as is done so much in the Gay >> >> >> >> >> >>>> community, >> >> >> >> >> >>>> and >> >> >> >> >> maybe >> >> >> >> >> >>>> in >> >> >> >> >> >>>> some Heterosexual social circles; (Like the >> Nudist/Swapping >> >> >> >> crews). >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> KeithInDC >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Mustang >> >> >> >> >> >>>> <[email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Keith, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> While I agree with many, if not most, things you say we >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> disagree >> >> >> >> on >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> a >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> couple. This being one of them. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> "The military does not allow for ANYONE, and this will >> >> include >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> heterosexuals as well as homosexuals, to wear their >> >> sexuality >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> openly, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> or to >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> broadcast their sexual likes or dislikes publicly. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> " >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Heterosexuals already do wear their sexuality preference >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> openly. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Are you saying that everyone will suddenly be forbidden >> any >> >> >> >> >> opportunity >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> to display or even have pictures of their family and >> >> friends? >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> No >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> one >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> will >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> be allowed to admit they write, call, or discuss any >> >> >> >> communications >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> with >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> their wives, husbands, girlfriends or boyfriends? No >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> one >> >> will >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> be >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> allowed to >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> talk about how things are going at home or plans after >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> discharge? >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> While on >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> leave, no one can invite a male or female military >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> friend >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> to >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> spend >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Holidays with a spouse, or to openly have two Dads or >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> two >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Moms? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> The Israeli military has not gone to hell in a hand >> basket. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> They >> >> >> >> >> have >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> no problem with both genders or gay people being drafted >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> and >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> then >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> working >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> cohesively. It's the same as acceptance of blacks and >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> women >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> was >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> decades >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> ago. Much ado about nothing. I am certain our military >> >> will >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> be >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> able >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> to >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> keep their minds focused on the tasks assigned. Anyone >> who >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> qualified >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> should have the right to apply to defend our nation. >> >> Absolute >> >> >> >> 100% >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> heterosexuality should not be a requirement. Nothing >> will >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> change. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Mustang >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Bigotry disguised as morality is still bigotry just as >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> an >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> outhouse >> >> >> >> >> with >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> marble columns is still an outhouse. - D.A. Ridgely >> >> (whomever >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> he >> >> >> >> is) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> *From:* Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> *Sent:* Sun, December 19, 2010 9:18:24 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Historical Pictorial] Victory! Senate >> >> Repeals >> >> >> >> ‘Don’t >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Ask, Don’t Tell’, Despite 31 Republican No Votes and >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> John >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> McCain's >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Fillibuster Attempt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> No question, I see this issue from a different >> perspective >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> than I >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> believe most do here in HP. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> I don't see the DADT repeal as being all that >> significant, >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> although >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> I agree with Rob and his assessment, I also think that >> >> there >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> is >> >> >> >> a >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> major >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> component to all of this, that Rob, or anyone else in >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> the >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> group >> >> >> >> has >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> touched >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> upon. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> The military does not allow for ANYONE, and this will >> >> include >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> heterosexuals as well as homosexuals, to wear their >> >> sexuality >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> openly, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> or to >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> broadcast their sexual likes or dislikes publicly. In >> >> other >> >> >> >> words, >> >> >> >> >> NO >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> ONE >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> in the military can be or will be identified by their >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> sexual >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> proclivities or >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> sexual identification, which is a common factor in the >> Gay >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> community. >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> This >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> is where so many in the Gay community are mistaken. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> The military will boot out a service member who is an >> >> admitted >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> adulterer. Service members who are into any type of >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> sado-masochistic activities and make them public will be >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> summarily >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> discharged. Those service members who are into >> "swinging" >> >> and >> >> >> >> have >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> multiple >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> sexual partners, and who make that aspect of their lives >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> public, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> will >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> be >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> shown the door and discharged. All branches of the >> >> service >> >> >> >> will >> >> >> >> >> not >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> condone any member who bases his or her lifestyle upon >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> their >> >> >> >> sexual >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> identiy. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Nothng has changed. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Just as important, the military does in fact have and >> >> embrace >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> a >> >> >> >> >> "Macho" >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> image. This is requisite for combat. Yes, there are >> women >> >> in >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> the >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> service >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> but not in combat arms. The lifestyle is tough, rugged >> and >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> most >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> of >> >> >> >> >> the >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> time >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> uncomfortable. The stereotypical Gay male will not be >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> condoned. >> >> >> >> The >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> combat >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> units of the Army and Marines are all male and all the >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> males >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> talk >> >> >> >> >> about >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> doing their girl friends as they charge the enemy with >> >> cigars >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> hanging >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> out >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> their mouths; not penises. This is the image that our >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> military >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> cultivates. It is good for morale, it is good for unit >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> cohesiveness, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> and >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> most importantly, it is but one component of what makes >> our >> >> >> >> military >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> the >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> mightiest in the world. Again, this image is not going >> to >> >> >> >> change. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> -- >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group, Historical >> >> >> >> Pictorial, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> which is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> on >> >> >> >> historical >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> media, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> and discussions of contemporary issues as well as our >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> chronicled >> >> >> >> >> past! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> -- >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group, Historical >> >> >> >> Pictorial, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> which is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> on >> >> >> >> historical >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> media, >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> and discussions of contemporary issues as well as our >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> chronicled >> >> >> >> >> past! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> -- >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group, Historical >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Pictorial, >> >> >> >> >> >>>> which >> >> >> >> >> >>>> is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing on >> >> historical >> >> >> >> media, >> >> >> >> >> >>>> and >> >> >> >> >> >>>> discussions of contemporary issues as well as our >> chronicled >> >> >> >> >> >>>> past! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >> >> >> >>> - wayne. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> goto>http://waynes-nude-musicians.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >>> http://blueguitar.tumblr.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >> >> >> >>> Thanks for participating in the Google Group, Historical >> >> >> >> >> >>> Pictorial, >> >> >> >> >> which >> >> >> >> >> >>> is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing on >> >> >> >> >> >>> historical >> >> >> >> media, >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> >>> discussions of contemporary issues as well as our >> chronicled >> >> >> >> >> >>> past! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >> >> >> >>>http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for participating in the Google Group, Historical >> >> >> >> >> >> Pictorial, >> >> >> >> >> which >> >> >> >> >> >> is the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing on >> historical >> >> >> >> >> >> media, >> >> >> >> >> and >> >> >> >> >> >> discussions of contemporary issues as well as our >> >> >> >> >> >> chronicled >> >> >> >> >> >> past! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >> >> >> >>http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> >> >> > Thanks for participating in the Google Group, Historical >> >> >> >> >> > Pictorial, >> >> >> >> >> > which >> >> >> >> >> is >> >> >> >> >> > the premiere men's forum on the web; focusing on historical >> >> media, >> >> >> >> >> > and >> >> >> >> >> > discussions of contemporary issues as well as our chronicled >> >> past! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > For options and help, please visit the group at: >> >> >> >> >> >http://groups.google.com/group/Historical-Pictoral >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> >> >> >> >> Tommy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >> >> >> >> For options & help seehttp:// >> >> groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> * Visit our other community at >> >> >> >> >>http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> >> >> >> >> * It's active and moderated. 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