Patrick, 

You pretty much hit the nail on the head! It sounds like my experience with 
the Roadini is similar to your Ram experience (which is ironic because I 
like the way the Ram rides). The memory that was conjured up while riding 
the Roadini was when I was a kid at a local playground and tried a handicap 
swingset that was freshly installed. And I thought, hey this is pretty 
cool, but I do feel 50x safer than would personally like to feel...I'm 
gonna go back to jumping out of trees on a rope swing. This feels 
insensitive typing it out and I don't mean to be, and I don't think my 
experience with the Roadini makes it a worse bike than my Waterford 1200, 
they're just two totally different beasts...but they're both called road 
bikes... 

Now there are roads 40 miles or so from my front door where I would MUCH 
prefer the Roadini to my Waterford, and the opportunity cost of selling the 
Roadini is that I'll likely forego riding those roads. But where I'm at 
right now, I'd rather enjoy those 40 miles on a bike that feels lively and 
a little dangerous and either skip, walk, or say a prayer to the pinch flat 
gods and overcome that short section of sketch. If I were a sleep-deprived 
rando rider enjoying long stretches of rough country road, the Roadini and 
I would get along like peas and carrots, but that ain't me right now. 

This is a can o worms I'm opening, but I'll say it anyway, maybe Rivendell 
shouldn't be calling the Roadini a "road" bike. It's definitely THEIR 
version of one but none of their models except for maybe the Roadeo fit 
into the industries' categories. I think Country bike and Hilibike are 
beautiful categorical solutions, so perhaps the Homer and Roadini deserve 
their own as well. Food for thought. 

Andrew
On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 11:09:01 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:

> That's frame and fork and headset, folks.
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 10:07 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ..  1970s *tout 531* Libertas [5.9 lb 60 X 56 c-c with steel Campy hs!!] 
>> with 38 mm tires for a road-like pavement gofast combined with tires and 
>> gearing sufficient for firm-dirt explorations.
>>
>
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> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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