Man that geo is spot on. It's a shame Riv doesn't make a snappy bike at a cheaper pricepoint but it also seems like Grant's really shifted his gaze to the off-road, do-it-all sector. Lengthening chainstays on the Homer and calling a touring bike a road bike feels like unnecessary overlap but hey, not my call. Anyhow, Crust is here to fill the gaps.
- Andrew On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 7:35 PM R Olson <ryan.trent.ol...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have a 61cm roadeo and have ridden several other rivs and I love the way > the roadeo rides. It's the perfect bike in almost every way. It's the > most responsive bike I've ever owned. It's quick without being twitchy. > Only problem is it's slightly too small, so I've been considering different > options (besides the obvious one of just getting a size bigger from riv), > including a roadini. Along the way, I've been obsessed with comparing > bikes on bike insight. Of note, and relevant to this discussion is that I > compared a 61cm Roadini with a 66cm Gunnar Grand Tour frame, and lo and > behold, it's has almost the exact same geometry (see attached pic)!! Not > sure what the differences in the tubing are, but I'd bet the Gunnar touring > frame has the same or even lighter tubing. Thankful for this post and > discussion, everyone. Perhaps the roadini is not the right choice to > upsize my roadeo. > > Ryan > > [image: GunnarRoadiniComparison.jpg] > > On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 4:53:45 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote: > >> Having owned a Roadini, I would go a step further and say it's basically >> an old school touring bike. Long, relaxed, kind of overbuilt. I've never >> ridden one, but I'd guess a Specialized Expedition or Miyata 1000 would >> feel pretty similar. By contrast, I've had a string of vintage Trek sport >> touring bikes, and they felt a bit snappier than the Roadini. >> >> Eric >> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:13 PM Andrew Turner <andyree...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> cjus...@gmail.com, sorry I don't know your name, but while staring at >>> the finished build as one does, one of my first thoughts was, this looks a >>> LOT like a Casseroll! I've never ridden one but am delighted that someone >>> else made that connection. I would 100% agree with that description for the >>> Roadini: "A versatile (light) touring machine with roadie influences." >>> >>> I also should've clarified that the 2022 Roadini model is the one I have >>> a harder time calling a road bike. To me it's a new-age sport tourer. Lot's >>> of bags don't even need brazeons or racks these days and I think the >>> Roadini would carry them in stride. >>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 4:53:25 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote: >>> >>>> I think of the Roadini as a Rivendell road bike, as in "this is how Riv >>>> distills Rivness into a TIG-welded caliper-brake frame designed to be a >>>> little shorter than other Rivs, and will probably use dropbsrs and >>>> skinny-ish tires." It's not a "road bike" as the current market understands >>>> that term. >>>> >>>> Joe Bernard >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:24:41 PM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Patrick, >>>>> >>>>> You pretty much hit the nail on the head! It sounds like my experience >>>>> with the Roadini is similar to your Ram experience (which is ironic >>>>> because >>>>> I like the way the Ram rides). The memory that was conjured up while >>>>> riding >>>>> the Roadini was when I was a kid at a local playground and tried a >>>>> handicap >>>>> swingset that was freshly installed. And I thought, hey this is pretty >>>>> cool, but I do feel 50x safer than would personally like to feel...I'm >>>>> gonna go back to jumping out of trees on a rope swing. This feels >>>>> insensitive typing it out and I don't mean to be, and I don't think my >>>>> experience with the Roadini makes it a worse bike than my Waterford 1200, >>>>> they're just two totally different beasts...but they're both called road >>>>> bikes... >>>>> >>>>> Now there are roads 40 miles or so from my front door where I would >>>>> MUCH prefer the Roadini to my Waterford, and the opportunity cost of >>>>> selling the Roadini is that I'll likely forego riding those roads. But >>>>> where I'm at right now, I'd rather enjoy those 40 miles on a bike that >>>>> feels lively and a little dangerous and either skip, walk, or say a prayer >>>>> to the pinch flat gods and overcome that short section of sketch. If I >>>>> were >>>>> a sleep-deprived rando rider enjoying long stretches of rough country >>>>> road, >>>>> the Roadini and I would get along like peas and carrots, but that ain't me >>>>> right now. >>>>> >>>>> This is a can o worms I'm opening, but I'll say it anyway, maybe >>>>> Rivendell shouldn't be calling the Roadini a "road" bike. It's definitely >>>>> THEIR version of one but none of their models except for maybe the Roadeo >>>>> fit into the industries' categories. I think Country bike and Hilibike are >>>>> beautiful categorical solutions, so perhaps the Homer and Roadini deserve >>>>> their own as well. Food for thought. >>>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 11:09:01 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That's frame and fork and headset, folks. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 10:07 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> .. 1970s *tout 531* Libertas [5.9 lb 60 X 56 c-c with steel Campy >>>>>>> hs!!] with 38 mm tires for a road-like pavement gofast combined with >>>>>>> tires >>>>>>> and gearing sufficient for firm-dirt explorations. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/70c8a50a-714b-48e1-8b3a-dab7a8e73980n%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/70c8a50a-714b-48e1-8b3a-dab7a8e73980n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dMHpoD_okGQ/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/37b2c436-7653-41b1-8f98-1c1f597dc8f3n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/37b2c436-7653-41b1-8f98-1c1f597dc8f3n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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