If you want to steal some marketing from another company where the ethos has had some Venn overlap, would it be fair to describe the Roadini as:
"A versatile (light) touring machine with roadie influences." Why that description? That is the marketing for the Salsa Casseroll that was first released in 2007. I know the original designer for the Casseroll and as I was looking at mine, I could not help but think it screamed Roadini to me. This is not surprising as the Bridgestone/Rivendell ethos is well baked into the Minneapolis cycling community with the "godfather" of the local cycling scene being a former BStone racer (and print model IIRC). Sure enough, save for the differences with the 1" vs. 1 1/8" head tube and a more aggressive STA on the Casseroll, every bit about the Geo of the current Roadini is nearly identical to the similar size Casseroll. HTA, fork offset, BB drop, CS length (if Casseroll at back of horizontals) They even marketed the sizing for these in a very Riv way as I am riding a 49cm and traditionally run a 54cm road bike. Just my thoughts for describing as I am building a Casseroll now and could not help but notice how in every way it felt like a Roadini in sheep's clothes. On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-6 andyree...@gmail.com wrote: > Patrick, > > You pretty much hit the nail on the head! It sounds like my experience > with the Roadini is similar to your Ram experience (which is ironic because > I like the way the Ram rides). The memory that was conjured up while riding > the Roadini was when I was a kid at a local playground and tried a handicap > swingset that was freshly installed. And I thought, hey this is pretty > cool, but I do feel 50x safer than would personally like to feel...I'm > gonna go back to jumping out of trees on a rope swing. This feels > insensitive typing it out and I don't mean to be, and I don't think my > experience with the Roadini makes it a worse bike than my Waterford 1200, > they're just two totally different beasts...but they're both called road > bikes... > > Now there are roads 40 miles or so from my front door where I would MUCH > prefer the Roadini to my Waterford, and the opportunity cost of selling the > Roadini is that I'll likely forego riding those roads. But where I'm at > right now, I'd rather enjoy those 40 miles on a bike that feels lively and > a little dangerous and either skip, walk, or say a prayer to the pinch flat > gods and overcome that short section of sketch. If I were a sleep-deprived > rando rider enjoying long stretches of rough country road, the Roadini and > I would get along like peas and carrots, but that ain't me right now. > > This is a can o worms I'm opening, but I'll say it anyway, maybe Rivendell > shouldn't be calling the Roadini a "road" bike. It's definitely THEIR > version of one but none of their models except for maybe the Roadeo fit > into the industries' categories. I think Country bike and Hilibike are > beautiful categorical solutions, so perhaps the Homer and Roadini deserve > their own as well. Food for thought. > > Andrew > On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 11:09:01 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: > >> That's frame and fork and headset, folks. >> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 10:07 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> .. 1970s *tout 531* Libertas [5.9 lb 60 X 56 c-c with steel Campy >>> hs!!] with 38 mm tires for a road-like pavement gofast combined with tires >>> and gearing sufficient for firm-dirt explorations. >>> >> >> -- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/9ebb627f-3501-45c2-a204-6ae0a3b7b5e0n%40googlegroups.com.
