Andrew: Thanks; good heads-up on the Roadini, then. As for my blue Ram, I don't want to overstate things, and it was a very nice handling bike. If I'd kept that Ram though I could probably have squeezed 38s into the frame and wouldn't have to bother with the Libertas whose fruition, as Bill says, recedes continually into the future. (Tho' the Libertas is sized better at 60/56 instead of 58/57 or whatever the Ram was.) But having reached the age where I am a lot slower than I use to be* but also modestly richer, I can afford to parse small differences and I prefer the slightly faster turn-in of my 26" wheel road customs.
* Riding home in the hooks against a stiff sidewind today on the 559 X 42 mm Naches-Pass el-shod Matthews Riv Road clone with 23 lb in the rear I was overtaken by a young 40-something on an old mountain bike with knobbies carrying his dog on a Jandd rack, tho' he was using an aero bar on his flat bar. The indignities of growing old ... On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 3:24 PM Andrew Turner <andyreedtur...@gmail.com> wrote: > Patrick, > > You pretty much hit the nail on the head! It sounds like my experience > with the Roadini is similar to your Ram experience (which is ironic because > I like the way the Ram rides). The memory that was conjured up while riding > the Roadini was when I was a kid at a local playground and tried a handicap > swingset that was freshly installed. And I thought, hey this is pretty > cool, but I do feel 50x safer than would personally like to feel...I'm > gonna go back to jumping out of trees on a rope swing. This feels > insensitive typing it out and I don't mean to be, and I don't think my > experience with the Roadini makes it a worse bike than my Waterford 1200, > they're just two totally different beasts...but they're both called road > bikes... > > Now there are roads 40 miles or so from my front door where I would MUCH > prefer the Roadini to my Waterford, and the opportunity cost of selling the > Roadini is that I'll likely forego riding those roads. But where I'm at > right now, I'd rather enjoy those 40 miles on a bike that feels lively and > a little dangerous and either skip, walk, or say a prayer to the pinch flat > gods and overcome that short section of sketch. If I were a sleep-deprived > rando rider enjoying long stretches of rough country road, the Roadini and > I would get along like peas and carrots, but that ain't me right now. > > This is a can o worms I'm opening, but I'll say it anyway, maybe Rivendell > shouldn't be calling the Roadini a "road" bike. It's definitely THEIR > version of one but none of their models except for maybe the Roadeo fit > into the industries' categories. I think Country bike and Hilibike are > beautiful categorical solutions, so perhaps the Homer and Roadini deserve > their own as well. Food for thought. > > Andrew > On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 11:09:01 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: > >> That's frame and fork and headset, folks. >> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 10:07 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> .. 1970s *tout 531* Libertas [5.9 lb 60 X 56 c-c with steel Campy >>> hs!!] with 38 mm tires for a road-like pavement gofast combined with tires >>> and gearing sufficient for firm-dirt explorations. >>> >> >> -- >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2fe23273-e95b-42e8-8d71-b2d83eb56707n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/2fe23273-e95b-42e8-8d71-b2d83eb56707n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgtcTgbUhU04f0%3DYi_zLZCV4LBW4RuWAMmTtoDM0oFT8kg%40mail.gmail.com.
