No, not going with Malocchio, that one's a little too long and low for me. I went back to vintage. Joe Bunik has a frameset I couldn't resist. I'll show build pics when it's all done.
On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 7:43:49 AM UTC-6 DavidP wrote: > Andrew - I assume you are referring to the Malocchio? Are you going that > route to replace the Roadini frame? If so I'd be interested in any > impressions once you have it built. > > I considered one for a fendered 700x33 "roadie" build but wasn't opposed > to threadless or slightly lower quality tubing so I ordered a Soma > Pescadero frame. Another (inexpensive) frame with similar geometry is the > Handsome Devil. > > -Dave > > On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 9:34:33 PM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Man that geo is spot on. It's a shame Riv doesn't make a snappy bike at a >> cheaper pricepoint but it also seems like Grant's really shifted his gaze >> to the off-road, do-it-all sector. Lengthening chainstays on the Homer and >> calling a touring bike a road bike feels like unnecessary overlap but hey, >> not my call. Anyhow, Crust is here to fill the gaps. >> >> - Andrew >> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 7:35 PM R Olson <ryan.tre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I have a 61cm roadeo and have ridden several other rivs and I love the >>> way the roadeo rides. It's the perfect bike in almost every way. It's the >>> most responsive bike I've ever owned. It's quick without being twitchy. >>> Only problem is it's slightly too small, so I've been considering different >>> options (besides the obvious one of just getting a size bigger from riv), >>> including a roadini. Along the way, I've been obsessed with comparing >>> bikes on bike insight. Of note, and relevant to this discussion is that I >>> compared a 61cm Roadini with a 66cm Gunnar Grand Tour frame, and lo and >>> behold, it's has almost the exact same geometry (see attached pic)!! Not >>> sure what the differences in the tubing are, but I'd bet the Gunnar touring >>> frame has the same or even lighter tubing. Thankful for this post and >>> discussion, everyone. Perhaps the roadini is not the right choice to >>> upsize my roadeo. >>> >>> Ryan >>> >>> [image: GunnarRoadiniComparison.jpg] >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 4:53:45 PM UTC-7 Eric Daume wrote: >>> >>>> Having owned a Roadini, I would go a step further and say it's >>>> basically an old school touring bike. Long, relaxed, kind of overbuilt. >>>> I've never ridden one, but I'd guess a Specialized Expedition or Miyata >>>> 1000 would feel pretty similar. By contrast, I've had a string of vintage >>>> Trek sport touring bikes, and they felt a bit snappier than the Roadini. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 6:13 PM Andrew Turner <andyree...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> cjus...@gmail.com, sorry I don't know your name, but while staring at >>>>> the finished build as one does, one of my first thoughts was, this looks >>>>> a >>>>> LOT like a Casseroll! I've never ridden one but am delighted that someone >>>>> else made that connection. I would 100% agree with that description for >>>>> the >>>>> Roadini: "A versatile (light) touring machine with roadie influences." >>>>> >>>>> I also should've clarified that the 2022 Roadini model is the one I >>>>> have a harder time calling a road bike. To me it's a new-age sport >>>>> tourer. >>>>> Lot's of bags don't even need brazeons or racks these days and I think >>>>> the >>>>> Roadini would carry them in stride. >>>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 4:53:25 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think of the Roadini as a Rivendell road bike, as in "this is how >>>>>> Riv distills Rivness into a TIG-welded caliper-brake frame designed to >>>>>> be a >>>>>> little shorter than other Rivs, and will probably use dropbsrs and >>>>>> skinny-ish tires." It's not a "road bike" as the current market >>>>>> understands >>>>>> that term. >>>>>> >>>>>> Joe Bernard >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 2:24:41 PM UTC-8 andyree...@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Patrick, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You pretty much hit the nail on the head! It sounds like my >>>>>>> experience with the Roadini is similar to your Ram experience (which is >>>>>>> ironic because I like the way the Ram rides). The memory that was >>>>>>> conjured >>>>>>> up while riding the Roadini was when I was a kid at a local playground >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> tried a handicap swingset that was freshly installed. And I thought, >>>>>>> hey >>>>>>> this is pretty cool, but I do feel 50x safer than would personally like >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> feel...I'm gonna go back to jumping out of trees on a rope swing. This >>>>>>> feels insensitive typing it out and I don't mean to be, and I don't >>>>>>> think >>>>>>> my experience with the Roadini makes it a worse bike than my Waterford >>>>>>> 1200, they're just two totally different beasts...but they're both >>>>>>> called >>>>>>> road bikes... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now there are roads 40 miles or so from my front door where I would >>>>>>> MUCH prefer the Roadini to my Waterford, and the opportunity cost of >>>>>>> selling the Roadini is that I'll likely forego riding those roads. But >>>>>>> where I'm at right now, I'd rather enjoy those 40 miles on a bike that >>>>>>> feels lively and a little dangerous and either skip, walk, or say a >>>>>>> prayer >>>>>>> to the pinch flat gods and overcome that short section of sketch. If I >>>>>>> were >>>>>>> a sleep-deprived rando rider enjoying long stretches of rough country >>>>>>> road, >>>>>>> the Roadini and I would get along like peas and carrots, but that ain't >>>>>>> me >>>>>>> right now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a can o worms I'm opening, but I'll say it anyway, maybe >>>>>>> Rivendell shouldn't be calling the Roadini a "road" bike. It's >>>>>>> definitely >>>>>>> THEIR version of one but none of their models except for maybe the >>>>>>> Roadeo >>>>>>> fit into the industries' categories. I think Country bike and Hilibike >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> beautiful categorical solutions, so perhaps the Homer and Roadini >>>>>>> deserve >>>>>>> their own as well. Food for thought. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andrew >>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 11:09:01 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's frame and fork and headset, folks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 10:07 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> .. 1970s *tout 531* Libertas [5.9 lb 60 X 56 c-c with steel >>>>>>>>> Campy hs!!] with 38 mm tires for a road-like pavement gofast combined >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> tires and gearing sufficient for firm-dirt explorations. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/70c8a50a-714b-48e1-8b3a-dab7a8e73980n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/70c8a50a-714b-48e1-8b3a-dab7a8e73980n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/dMHpoD_okGQ/unsubscribe >>> . >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/37b2c436-7653-41b1-8f98-1c1f597dc8f3n%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/37b2c436-7653-41b1-8f98-1c1f597dc8f3n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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