Em Sáb, 2009-02-21 às 07:57 -0800, Maurizio escreveu:

> I admit that I've never heard of Pynac.

Actually there are two Pynac's out there, one of them is a sage insider
project to replace Maxima as a symbolics backend, since that greatly
impacts performance and builds.


> > > I am wondering what do you think about simplifying the access and use
> > > of the external packages to accomplish some very simple operations. I
> > > first say that I do intensive use of plot and symbolic analysis
> > > (calculus) routines.
> >
Actually it seems pretty easy to use external packages from sage, since
it's Python and can use any of python's interfaces (though there are
some good ones that sage makes even easier to use).

> I think that plot should definitely get a better interface. My problem
> is: sometimes I look for a feature (e.g. semilog plot or x axis ticks
> settings) which I found unimplemented in the SAGE plot(). So I go for
> matplotlib (which currently seems to be the better plotting engine,
> would you recommend something else?), and I found a lot of
> documentation on the web. Then, I try the online examples (targeted
> for pylab or something like that), and the results is the necessity to
> go through file saving (to png) and other stuff, simply to get the
> plot shown in the notebook. This is a little frustrating.

You pretty much have the same problems as I do, since I'm also an
Electronic Engineer. I also find sage hard to use from a
non-mathematician's POV (dealing with Fields isn't something one's
accustomed to do in Engineering). I have done some plots in sage, but
for "real" stuff I have always used pure Numpy+matplotlib, since it
gives me more flexibility on setting up plots (like using plot windows).
This, however, limits me to numeric calculations.

Also, I have tried many ways to do bode plots in sage, but nothing was
really good, since sage's plot like to break badly for non-default axes
because of automatic point placement. Anyway, I couldn't do more due to
time constraints, but some people have recently made some additions to
the plot code, so I may take another look at it when I have time.
> 
> Question: is it JMOL suitable for showing 2d plots, and to browse them
> (zoom and pan)?

AFAIK Jmol is for 3D visualization only. When it works.

Cheers,
Ronan


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