CFMX6.1 with KavaChart AlaCarte Applets

[Michael Carluen \(michaelc\)]

Anyone have general pros/cons comments, tips, suggestions, problems,
etc.. on using KavaChart applets on CFMX?  Many thanks!!


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Re: cheap [reliable] cf hosting?

[Mike Kear]

Ray we can tailor a hosting deal to suit you however you like.   I've
got several low-to middle range deals listed on my site at
http://afpwebworks.com but we can work out a deal to suit any size
bandwidth/space requirement.

Let's talk off-line about the specifics of your needs.

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ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



On 8/25/05, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, I searched the archives, but came up with no definitive answer.
> plus, this question hasn't been asked in like 6 months!
> 
> this will be real estate site where data is pulled in from an IDX daily,
> so (I think) I'll need to have decent bandwidth.
> 
> please no way OT subtopics.  don't want MT after me.  he's scary.
> 
> Ray
> 
>

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Re: OT: subversion

[Barney Boisvert]

I think you just want to have the Subversion repository publicly
accessible with an anonymous account set up that only has read-only
access, right?  Commit access would still require authentication via
whatever means you have in place.  Highly recommend using the Apache
WebDAV plugin for that, since it lets you do all the authentication
with Apache, rather than Subversion, and Apache supports all kinds of
things, including client certificates and HTTPS for free.

And since Subversion lets you easily have multiple repositories within
a single tree, it's a snap to have run a few different repositories
and use them all at once.  One for your public stuff, one for private
stuff, one for client work, etc.  The only thing to watch out for is
projects that share resources, because Subversion has some limitations
with crossing repository boundaries in certain cases (copies, for
example).

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/24/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> okay... it's late... I'm tired and frustrated... and we're in the
> midst of a major rollout at my day job...
> 
> Someone on cf-talk or cf-community recently commented about
> Subversion, saying that it seemed to be a growing trend for OS
> projects to distribute their subversion repository info so that people
> who download the code can get all the revisions in a nice package with
> lots of controls.
> 
> So I've finally got Subversion working, and I've finally got all my
> projects set up with batch files to export and archive the latest
> version...
> 
> What I can't find is any mention of people actually making their
> repositories available to other people. or how that happens.
> 
> The svnadmin dump command suggested in the documentation writes to
> "stdout" but doesn't say anything about how to make that useful in any
> way... If I execute that from a dos prompt, I get several minutes of
> scrolling text and beeping, rather than a file.
> 
> What am I missing? How are people making this info available? Do I
> just zip up the repository?
> 
> I had hoped there might be a way I could actually isolate an
> individual project within the repository and export the information
> for just that project to be packaged and distributed in addition to
> the source, so that someone downloading the SVN data could download
> just the data for the projects their interested in, but that doesn't
> look possible either...
> 
> This is _REALLY_ frustrating.
> 
> 
> s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080
> new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
> 
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Re: cheap [reliable] cf hosting?

[Matthew Blatchley]

I was just going through a similar search today for a client.  We were on 
the look out for a dedicated CF box

CFDynamics.com $189/month with CF,MSSQL, and Email...no backup bandwidth was 
200GB of transfer
Crystaltech.com had $79.95/month with MSSQL, Email and 250BG bandwidth (NO 
CF built in)
Enterhost.com was $150/month with only 100GB transfer with MSSQL, Email (NO 
CF built in)
HiVelocity.net was 1000GB bandwidth...then SQL was 199/month on top of that. 
Called and no response at all...I crossed that one off the listdidn't 
have time wait then, certainly won't have time to wait later.
Then there was Hostmysite.com, who never seems to negoiatebut after a 
while I got them down to 189.00/month with 89.00/month on top for CFMX with 
500GB/monthly transfer if that's even good :(
CFXhosting.com was 179/month with no CF and only 40GB transfer...
None of them had exatly what we needed except for CFDyanamics...hope that 
helps a little...

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RE: subversion

[Ewok]

> What I can't find is any mention of people actually making their
repositories available to other people. or how that happens.

Do you mean you actually want someone else (who has subversion installed) to
have a mirror of your repo or are just simply trying to give others the
ability to checkout projects? If that latter... just use svn://ipaddress in
a repo browser to checkout projects ( I cant recommend TortoiseSVN highly
enough.)

As for the stdout, you can avoid all the beeping and weird characters (and
probably get something that makes much more sense) if you pipe it to a file
when you run it



-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: subversion

okay... it's late... I'm tired and frustrated... and we're in the
midst of a major rollout at my day job...

Someone on cf-talk or cf-community recently commented about
Subversion, saying that it seemed to be a growing trend for OS
projects to distribute their subversion repository info so that people
who download the code can get all the revisions in a nice package with
lots of controls.

So I've finally got Subversion working, and I've finally got all my
projects set up with batch files to export and archive the latest
version...

What I can't find is any mention of people actually making their
repositories available to other people. or how that happens.

The svnadmin dump command suggested in the documentation writes to
"stdout" but doesn't say anything about how to make that useful in any
way... If I execute that from a dos prompt, I get several minutes of
scrolling text and beeping, rather than a file.

What am I missing? How are people making this info available? Do I
just zip up the repository?

I had hoped there might be a way I could actually isolate an
individual project within the repository and export the information
for just that project to be packaged and distributed in addition to
the source, so that someone downloading the SVN data could download
just the data for the projects their interested in, but that doesn't
look possible either...

This is _REALLY_ frustrating.


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Re: OT: subversion

[Stan Winchester]

I'm also just getting going with Subversion, and I highly recommend "Pragmatic 
Version Control Using Subversion" by Mike Mason. It's not an end all book, but 
I found it really got me up and going with Subversion. 

I too am in the process of making some repositories available, but I'm still 
working on how I want to handle permissions with Windows 2003 & Apache. I'm new 
to Apache, and would like to have user authentication for accessing 
repositories with read only rights. I've been able to lock down the repository 
with full rights, but have not figured out how to read only. I have thought 
about using Windows authentication, but not sure that is most elegant solution.

Thank you,
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>okay... it's late... I'm tired and frustrated... and we're in the
>midst of a major rollout at my day job...
>
>Someone on cf-talk or cf-community recently commented about
>Subversion, saying that it seemed to be a growing trend for OS
>projects to distribute their subversion repository info so that people
>who download the code can get all the revisions in a nice package with
>lots of controls.
>
>So I've finally got Subversion working, and I've finally got all my
>projects set up with batch files to export and archive the latest
>version...
>
>What I can't find is any mention of people actually making their
>repositories available to other people. or how that happens.
>
>The svnadmin dump command suggested in the documentation writes to
>"stdout" but doesn't say anything about how to make that useful in any
>way... If I execute that from a dos prompt, I get several minutes of
>scrolling text and beeping, rather than a file.
>
>What am I missing? How are people making this info available? Do I
>just zip up the repository?
>
>I had hoped there might be a way I could actually isolate an
>individual project within the repository and export the information
>for just that project to be packaged and distributed in addition to
>the source, so that someone downloading the SVN data could download
>just the data for the projects their interested in, but that doesn't
>look possible either...
>
>This is _REALLY_ frustrating.
>
>
>s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080
>new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
>
>add features without fixtures with
>the onTap open source framework
>
>http://www.fusiontap.com
>http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm

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RE: subversion

[Dave Watts]

> The svnadmin dump command suggested in the documentation writes to
> "stdout" but doesn't say anything about how to make that useful in any
> way... If I execute that from a dos prompt, I get several minutes of
> scrolling text and beeping, rather than a file.

I don't know enough about Subversion to answer your questions on how to use
it, but whenever you have any program that writes to STDOUT, it'll display
its output when you run it as you describe. It's up to you to capture STDOUT
and pipe it to a file. In a Windows command shell, you can do that using ">"
like so:

myprogram.exe > file.txt

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Re: bandwidth question

[Ray Champagne]

thanks...thought so.

Ewok wrote:
> Yes...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:46 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: bandwidth question
> 
> so...if you're using cfftp to retrieve file(s) from external sites 
> daily, does this count as bandwidth in a host's eyes?  i would assume 
> so, but i'm not sure.
> 
> Ray
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: bandwidth question

[Ewok]

Yes...

-Original Message-
From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: bandwidth question

so...if you're using cfftp to retrieve file(s) from external sites 
daily, does this count as bandwidth in a host's eyes?  i would assume 
so, but i'm not sure.

Ray



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OT: subversion

[S . Isaac Dealey]

okay... it's late... I'm tired and frustrated... and we're in the
midst of a major rollout at my day job...

Someone on cf-talk or cf-community recently commented about
Subversion, saying that it seemed to be a growing trend for OS
projects to distribute their subversion repository info so that people
who download the code can get all the revisions in a nice package with
lots of controls.

So I've finally got Subversion working, and I've finally got all my
projects set up with batch files to export and archive the latest
version...

What I can't find is any mention of people actually making their
repositories available to other people. or how that happens.

The svnadmin dump command suggested in the documentation writes to
"stdout" but doesn't say anything about how to make that useful in any
way... If I execute that from a dos prompt, I get several minutes of
scrolling text and beeping, rather than a file.

What am I missing? How are people making this info available? Do I
just zip up the repository?

I had hoped there might be a way I could actually isolate an
individual project within the repository and export the information
for just that project to be packaged and distributed in addition to
the source, so that someone downloading the SVN data could download
just the data for the projects their interested in, but that doesn't
look possible either...

This is _REALLY_ frustrating.


s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080
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the onTap open source framework

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bandwidth question

[Ray Champagne]

so...if you're using cfftp to retrieve file(s) from external sites 
daily, does this count as bandwidth in a host's eyes?  i would assume 
so, but i'm not sure.

Ray

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cheap [reliable] cf hosting?

[Ray Champagne]

So, I searched the archives, but came up with no definitive answer. 
plus, this question hasn't been asked in like 6 months!

this will be real estate site where data is pulled in from an IDX daily, 
so (I think) I'll need to have decent bandwidth.

please no way OT subtopics.  don't want MT after me.  he's scary.

Ray

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RE: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Dave Watts]

> I've worked with both, although I'm probably a little more 
> comfortable administering IIS, at least under a windows 
> environment. We have servers running IIS and we have 
> servers running apache both under windows and linux
> platforms. Currently I'm building a cluster, and I'm just 
> wondering which server is more secure/better performing 
> under the windows platform.

If you're using Windows, and you're more comfortable administering IIS, I'd
recommend that you use IIS. IIS 6 might perform a little better than Apache,
since IIS 6 relies on a low-level system service (HTTP.SYS) for serving
static files, but you're not likely to see any meaningful difference,
especially if you're using CF to do most of the heavy lifting.

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RE: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Dave Watts]

> Well we won't be doing much administering beyond the initial 
> setup. I am looking more in terms of stability, performance, 
> security and features.

Honestly, if you're not going to change things much, it doesn't really
matter. Any web server will perform acceptably - I could install WinHTTPD on
a Windows 3.1 machine and it could saturate the bandwidth of a T1. If you're
using CF heavily, the web server performance will be largely irrelevant
anyway.

Apache is certainly more secure by default than IIS 5 on Windows 2000. IIS 6
on Windows Server 2003 is pretty secure by default, however.

Both should be stable enough. Again, if you're using CF heavily, you're much
more likely to have stability problems with that than with any web server.

Both have lots of features, although each has features that the other
doesn't. For example, IIS is scriptable, which is kind of nice if you have
lots of virtual servers and directories to manage. On the other hand, most
non-default Apache functionality is free, while you might have to pay a few
bucks for non-default IIS functionaltiy.

I would expect that most people would find IIS easier to administer, since
it has a GUI. I find working with Apache's httpd.conf file a bit annoying,
since it's not really structured or organized especially well, but once you
know where everything is it's easy enough to work with.

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RE: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Dave Watts]

> Doesn't Apache have better features though?  Such as built-in 
> support for url rewriting, on the fly compression, being able
> to secure things better (for example, how do you block access 
> to the .svn folders in IIS?). 

You can add mod_rewrite style functionality using third-party tools like
ISAPI Rewrite. IIS supports compression for static documents (and
ASP/ASP.NET I think, but I'm not sure about that). Access control is fully
integrated with the OS, which is something you can't do with Apache since
Apache doesn't perform OS impersonation. This last item is a big deal on a
lot of intranets.

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Re: Get fields in an Access table

[Steve Bryant]

I tried it and got pretty far. Unfortunately, I got a "Optional feature not 
implemented" error when I tried to use the getColumns() method. So I guess that 
method isn't supported for MS Access.

I guess I will look into the CFMX7 Administrator API. I am trying to work on a 
solution that woould work for CFMX 6.1 and above and the API doesn't look 
promising for this problem at a glance.

so... If anyone has any more thoughts I would be grateful. As, indeed, am I for 
all of the thoughts thus far.

Thanks!

Steve

>I had problems getting it to work with Access originally... and then
>someone posted a comment on the article on the sys-con site with a
>fix, which turned out to be hideously simple... I had been passing
>username/password to connect to the db, and with Access you just omit
>those arguments... What threw me was that it appeared according to the
>JDBC docs that the un/pw arguments were required, so it never occurred
>to me to simply omit them.

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Re: Get fields in an Access table

[Matt Robertson]

Independent. I don't even have the two CF ODBC services running on my 
production servers. Figure JDBC is the native way to connect and ODBC 
introduces another layer into your processing. Its less efficient. So much 
so its not recommended for a production environment IIRC.

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Re: Get fields in an Access table

[Claude Schneegans]

 >>Looks like your tag doesn't play with JDBC or am I wrong?

Frankly, I never tested. I'm pretty happy with ODBC, even under CFMX.
But aren't JDBC just a bridge to ODBC or are they completely independant?

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Re: Get fields in an Access table

[Matt Robertson]

On 8/24/05, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Pardon me if I kind of insist on that, but CFX_ODBCinfo will give you
all this information. ;-/

What if I don't use ODBC? I have all JDBC connections, and I'm not even 
running the two ODBC CF services on my CF 6.1 servers. Looks like your tag 
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Re: Stupid custom tag question

[Barney Boisvert]

Thanks for that, Dan, but I'd actually mistyped.  I wanted the closing
tag to still execute, just skipping the body.  Not surprisingly, I was
also writing a caching tag, the difference being that the cached
content were generated Flash movies, so the "output" operation (which
takes place in the close tag) is rather cumbersome and I didn't really
want to UDF it so I could call it in both starting and ending tags.

However, I ended up doing exactly that, and it'll work.  Just seems
like a bit of a language shortcoming to me.  In psuedo-code:


  

  
  


  

  
  


cheers,
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On 8/24/05, Dan G. Switzer, II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Barney,
> 
> >Is there a way to, in the opening tag of a custom tag, tell the custom
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> >
> >
> >  i don't want to do this
> >
> >
> >mytag.cfm:
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> You should be able to do cancel the entire request:
> 
>   
> 
> 
> I wrote a cf_CacheObject tag a long time ago which I used to cache a bunch
> of code that really CPU intensive. Here's the code (please forgive the
> uppercase--I wrote the code 4 years and a week ago):
> 

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RE: Stupid custom tag question

[Dan G. Switzer, II]

Barney,

>Is there a way to, in the opening tag of a custom tag, tell the custom
>tag to skip evaluation of it's body?
>
>
>  i don't want to do this
>
>
>mytag.cfm:
>
>  
>

You should be able to do cancel the entire request:

  


I wrote a cf_CacheObject tag a long time ago which I used to cache a bunch
of code that really CPU intensive. Here's the code (please forgive the
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#Application.cfCacheObject[sHashKey].GeneratedContent#






















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Re: Get fields in an Access table

[Claude Schneegans]

 >>If anyone can tell me how to determine primary key, field length, and 
nullable that would be great as well.

Pardon me if I kind of insist on that, but CFX_ODBCinfo will give you 
all this information. ;-/

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Re: fusebox security plugin

[Greg Luce]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%22TheOffice%22+fusebox

On 8/24/05, wolf2k5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> On 8/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
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RE: CFC forms and error handling

[Dawson, Michael]

Well, there are a few different types of errors:
1. Syntactic: User enters a letter when a number is required.
2. Semantic: User enters a value that doesn't make sense in relation to
another value
3. System: The database server could not be contacted.

In most cases, I use a self-posting form.  That way, I can easily
re-fill the form fields in case an error occurs.

For syntactic errors, most likely, you will just re-load the form and
display an error.

Semantic errors are probably handled the same way, in general.

If there is a problem with the database connection, or any other
"critical" problem, you may as well just display an error page, then
send an email to the administrator.

If you haven't already, you should look through the CFC mailing list
archives a cfczone.org.  There are oodles and scads of posts regarding
just this topic.

M!ke 

-Original Message-
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Subject: CFC forms and error handling

Hi, all.

I've checked the forums for similar posts, but I've not found a clear
answer. So, this may be a bit of a repeat.

I've got a simple CFC consisting of four files: form.cfm,
formAction.cfm, testCFC.cfc, show.cfm.

In formAction.cfm, I wrap the  in a  to catch any
database errors:







ERROR!



I purposely cause an error by trying to insert a string value into an
integer field. 

Question: once I catch the error, how do I get the user back to the form
and populate the form fields with what the user has already typed in?

One post recommended putting all the form fields in the session scope,
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Re: cfapplication

[Will Tomlinson]

Not trying to be a smart alec here, but why aren't you using Application.cfc?

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Re: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.

[Eddie Awad]

> Can you create an index to a view created with SQL?

In Oracle, a view is nothing but a stored select statement. Tables
store data, views do not (unless they are materilized views). So, you
do not index views, but you index the tables that the views select
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RE: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.

[Adrian Lynch]

Yup, that and the developer edition.

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Anthony Prato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 August 2005 23:26
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.


While you have your book open...

is it true that clustered index views are only supported in the
enterprise edition of SQL server?

On 8/24/05, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good question! I was just reading about it today while studying for MS's
> 70-229 exam, so here goes nothing...
>
> Taking an example from the book:
>
> CREATE VIEW MyView WITH SCHEMABINDING AS
>SELECT MyColumn, MyOtherColumn
>FROM dbo.MyTable
>WHERE MyColumn = 'Some Value'
>
> Some notes on creating indexed views:
> - The view must specify SCHEMABINDING
> - You must use owner.object syntax
> - You can't use * (ALL)
> - You can't have derived tables
> - No UNION, OUTTER JOIN, sub queries or self joins
> - No TOP or ORDER BY
> - No COUNT(*), instead use COUNT_BIG(*), although I'm not sure if it's the
> use of the * or COUNT() that's the problem
> - No aggregate functions AVG, MAX, MIN
> - The following need also be true:
>- NUMERIC_ROUNDABORT set to OFF
>- ANSI_NULLS set to ON
>- ANSI_PADDING set to ON
>- ARITHABORT set to ON
>- CONCAT_NULL_YIELDS_NULL set to ON
>- QUOTED_IDENTIFIER set to ON
> - The first index created on the view must be unique clustered
> - There after non-clustered can be added
> - Removing the clustered index will remove the non-clustered indexes
>
> Then to create the index:
>
> CREATE CLUSTERED INDEX MyClusteredIndex ON MyView (MyColumn,
MyOtherColumn)
>
> Now how's that for simplicity?!
>
> Probably of no help to you but it's revision for me :OD
>
> Ade
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 August 2005 22:57
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.
>
>
> Adrian
>
> Can you share what that SQL might look like, under the hope that Oracle
may
> use the same syntax.  Not a large hope, but hope none the less.
>
> I looked up the Oracle (8i) CREATE INDEX documentation and quickly got
very
> lost on all the variations and convolutions.
>
>
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RE: PayPal subscription problems

[Ian Skinner]

A little, but I am walking out the door.

We use PayPal for our subscriptions, but we are not actually using PayPal 
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Re: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.

[Anthony Prato]

While you have your book open...

is it true that clustered index views are only supported in the
enterprise edition of SQL server?

On 8/24/05, Adrian Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Good question! I was just reading about it today while studying for MS's
> 70-229 exam, so here goes nothing...
> 
> Taking an example from the book:
> 
> CREATE VIEW MyView WITH SCHEMABINDING AS
>SELECT MyColumn, MyOtherColumn
>FROM dbo.MyTable
>WHERE MyColumn = 'Some Value'
> 
> Some notes on creating indexed views:
> - The view must specify SCHEMABINDING
> - You must use owner.object syntax
> - You can't use * (ALL)
> - You can't have derived tables
> - No UNION, OUTTER JOIN, sub queries or self joins
> - No TOP or ORDER BY
> - No COUNT(*), instead use COUNT_BIG(*), although I'm not sure if it's the
> use of the * or COUNT() that's the problem
> - No aggregate functions AVG, MAX, MIN
> - The following need also be true:
>- NUMERIC_ROUNDABORT set to OFF
>- ANSI_NULLS set to ON
>- ANSI_PADDING set to ON
>- ARITHABORT set to ON
>- CONCAT_NULL_YIELDS_NULL set to ON
>- QUOTED_IDENTIFIER set to ON
> - The first index created on the view must be unique clustered
> - There after non-clustered can be added
> - Removing the clustered index will remove the non-clustered indexes
> 
> Then to create the index:
> 
> CREATE CLUSTERED INDEX MyClusteredIndex ON MyView (MyColumn, MyOtherColumn)
> 
> Now how's that for simplicity?!
> 
> Probably of no help to you but it's revision for me :OD
> 
> Ade
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 August 2005 22:57
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> Can you share what that SQL might look like, under the hope that Oracle may
> use the same syntax.  Not a large hope, but hope none the less.
> 
> I looked up the Oracle (8i) CREATE INDEX documentation and quickly got very
> lost on all the variations and convolutions.
> 
> 
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Re: iTEXT

[Bryan Stevenson]

From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 3:17 PM
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> So if you didn't know iTEXT was behind it, how were you accidentally using
> it :-)

I was waiting for that one ;-)

I installed iText and thought I was using the version I installed.  I was 
asking some questions on-list and it came out that iText was part of CF in 
version 7.  So I pumped out the iText version onto the docs I was creating 
and sure enough it was the version that shipped with CF 7 and NOT the 
current version that I thought I was using.

So there's my little storyhope ya liked it ;-)

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RE: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.

[Adrian Lynch]

Good question! I was just reading about it today while studying for MS's
70-229 exam, so here goes nothing...

Taking an example from the book:

CREATE VIEW MyView WITH SCHEMABINDING AS
SELECT MyColumn, MyOtherColumn
FROM dbo.MyTable
WHERE MyColumn = 'Some Value'

Some notes on creating indexed views:
- The view must specify SCHEMABINDING
- You must use owner.object syntax
- You can't use * (ALL)
- You can't have derived tables
- No UNION, OUTTER JOIN, sub queries or self joins
- No TOP or ORDER BY
- No COUNT(*), instead use COUNT_BIG(*), although I'm not sure if it's the
use of the * or COUNT() that's the problem
- No aggregate functions AVG, MAX, MIN
- The following need also be true:
- NUMERIC_ROUNDABORT set to OFF
- ANSI_NULLS set to ON
- ANSI_PADDING set to ON
- ARITHABORT set to ON
- CONCAT_NULL_YIELDS_NULL set to ON
- QUOTED_IDENTIFIER set to ON
- The first index created on the view must be unique clustered
- There after non-clustered can be added
- Removing the clustered index will remove the non-clustered indexes

Then to create the index:

CREATE CLUSTERED INDEX MyClusteredIndex ON MyView (MyColumn, MyOtherColumn)

Now how's that for simplicity?!

Probably of no help to you but it's revision for me :OD

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 August 2005 22:57
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.


Adrian

Can you share what that SQL might look like, under the hope that Oracle may
use the same syntax.  Not a large hope, but hope none the less.

I looked up the Oracle (8i) CREATE INDEX documentation and quickly got very
lost on all the variations and convolutions.


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Re: PayPal subscription problems

[Stan Winchester]

Has anyone had experience with PayPal subscriptions?

> I have successfully tested a subscriptions application using the 
> PayPal Sandbox with no problems. When I switch to the live PayPal 
> server I get the following message in six different languages:
> 
> =
> We are sorry that we are experiencing temporary difficulties. Please 
> try again later.
> 
> Message 3515
> =
> 
> I am able to get to the PayPal payment page and it displays the 
> subscription order with no problems. It shows the first month is free 
> and subsequent months are $12/month. However, when I enter my user 
> name and password to make payment I get the before mentioned error 
> message.
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RE: iTEXT

[Snake]

So if you didn't know iTEXT was behind it, how were you accidentally using
it :-)
 

-Original Message-
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Sent: 24 August 2005 21:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: iTEXT

> in particular the person who wants me to install it tells me iTEXT 
> provides a dpi and a CMYK setting which cfdocument doesn't.
> If CFMX7 actually uses iTEXT can you access it directly instead of 
> going via CFDocument ?
>
> Russ

Yes...I did it by accident before I knew iText was behind CFDOCUMENT ;-)

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Re: Get fields in an Access table

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> That's the one! It does everything I asked for (though not
> everything I want).

> Thanks for all who replied. I looked at the CFDJ article
> as well, but it made it sound like it wouldn't work well
> on Access.

I had problems getting it to work with Access originally... and then
someone posted a comment on the article on the sys-con site with a
fix, which turned out to be hideously simple... I had been passing
username/password to connect to the db, and with Access you just omit
those arguments... What threw me was that it appeared according to the
JDBC docs that the un/pw arguments were required, so it never occurred
to me to simply omit them.

> If anyone can tell me how to determine primary key, field
> length, and nullable that would be great as well. (com?)

The JDBC method in the article will give you all of these as well. :)

I suspect that on CF7 there is a better way to fetch the JDBC
connection using the CF Admin API rather than using the
serviceFactory, but I haven't gotten around to investigating that yet.



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Re: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.

[Anthony Prato]

I think what you are looking for in oracle is called a "materialized view" 

Anthony

On 8/24/05, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adrian
> 
> Can you share what that SQL might look like, under the hope that Oracle may 
> use the same syntax.  Not a large hope, but hope none the less.
> 
> I looked up the Oracle (8i) CREATE INDEX documentation and quickly got very 
> lost on all the variations and convolutions.
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Re: Get fields in an Access table

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> Didn't Isaac write up a really cool java app to do this in
> CFDJ?

mmm... yup... "Leveraging JDBC or Just Fetching Coffee"...

if you hit the sys-con url in my sig, the link to it's on that page.

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Re: Get fields in an Access table

[Steve Bryant]

That's the one! It does everything I asked for (though not everything I want).

Thanks for all who replied. I looked at the CFDJ article as well, but it made 
it sound like it wouldn't work well on Access.

If anyone can tell me how to determine primary key, field length, and nullable 
that would be great as well. (com?)

Thanks to all who replied!

Steve

>If you are using MX, you could do something like this:
>
>
>SELECT TOP 1 * FROM Authors
>
>
>
>
>
>
>This will give you an array of structures that contain all of the field
>names, case sensitivity and field type. 
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RE: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.

[Ian Skinner]

Adrian

Can you share what that SQL might look like, under the hope that Oracle may use 
the same syntax.  Not a large hope, but hope none the less.

I looked up the Oracle (8i) CREATE INDEX documentation and quickly got very 
lost on all the variations and convolutions.


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RE: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.

[Adrian Lynch]

It's possible in SQL Server, you can create a clustered index on a view and
then non-clustered indexes(the clustered index is a must for the
non-clustered to be added). Not sure about Oracle though.

I thought it might be of some help to know it's possible on at least one DB
server.

Ade

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 August 2005 22:38
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.


Can you create an index to a view created with SQL?  I would presume so, but
I am not sure what it would look like.

I am creating a view with the following syntax.  It takes between 1/20th and
1/10th of a second on average to create a view of a few thousand records.


  CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW CREATED AS (
  SELECT
  ...


I then use this view in a fairly complex query to turn values in various
rows into columns.


SELECT DISTINCT
  D_VST_DATE AS aDATE,
  N_LOC_AREA AS AREA,
  (  SELECT
 SUM(TOTAL_RECORDS)
 FROM
   CREATED FOO
 WHERE
   FOO.D_VST_DATE = T.D_VST_DATE AND
   FOO.N_LOC_AREA = T.N_LOC_AREA AND
   FOO.D_DNT_CNTTYP = 'WB'
  ) AS WB, --This block repeated for three different D_DNT_CNTTYP values.
  ...
FROM
  CREATED T
  ...


This works but it is rather slow.  Taking about thirty seconds to process
the above view of a few thousand records.  I would think an index on the
D_VST_DATE and/or N_LOC_AREA fields in the view might speed this up a bit.


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RE: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[Dave.Phillips]

Matt,

What numbers are you using to stay under the radar?  x per hour?  x per minute? 
Whatever details you can share I am sure will help win the war on SPALM 
(Service Providers Attacking Legitimate Mailers). :)

Dave

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails


A lot of the stuff up above is good advice. Especially the stuff about 
proper mx records.
 I have been able to completely eliminate the issue of AOL, MSN Yahoo etc. 
thinking they see spam coming from my server by throttling all mail that 
goes out of the box. No clients are allowed to send email blasts. They all 
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not deliver because user does not exist" when you know it does in fact exist 
and later, on retry, the mail goes thru). Same goes for a commercial vendor 
sending out daily alert-type emails showing product in inventory matching a 
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SQL/Oracle Indexing a temporary view.

[Ian Skinner]

Can you create an index to a view created with SQL?  I would presume so, but I 
am not sure what it would look like.

I am creating a view with the following syntax.  It takes between 1/20th and 
1/10th of a second on average to create a view of a few thousand records.


  CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW CREATED AS (
  SELECT 
  ...


I then use this view in a fairly complex query to turn values in various rows 
into columns.


SELECT DISTINCT
  D_VST_DATE AS aDATE,
  N_LOC_AREA AS AREA,
  (  SELECT 
 SUM(TOTAL_RECORDS)
 FROM
   CREATED FOO
 WHERE
   FOO.D_VST_DATE = T.D_VST_DATE AND
   FOO.N_LOC_AREA = T.N_LOC_AREA AND
   FOO.D_DNT_CNTTYP = 'WB' 
  ) AS WB, --This block repeated for three different D_DNT_CNTTYP values.
  ...
FROM 
  CREATED T
  ...


This works but it is rather slow.  Taking about thirty seconds to process the 
above view of a few thousand records.  I would think an index on the D_VST_DATE 
and/or N_LOC_AREA fields in the view might speed this up a bit.


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CFC forms and error handling

[Cameron Johnson]

Hi, all.

I've checked the forums for similar posts, but I've not found a clear answer. 
So, this may be a bit of a repeat.

I've got a simple CFC consisting of four files: form.cfm, formAction.cfm, 
testCFC.cfc, show.cfm.

In formAction.cfm, I wrap the  in a  to catch any database 
errors:







ERROR!



I purposely cause an error by trying to insert a string value into an integer 
field. 

Question: once I catch the error, how do I get the user back to the form and 
populate the form fields with what the user has already typed in?

One post recommended putting all the form fields in the session scope, then 
populating the form with session variables. But, that seems very cumbersome. 

Thanks for the help,

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Re: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[Matt Robertson]

A lot of the stuff up above is good advice. Especially the stuff about 
proper mx records.
 I have been able to completely eliminate the issue of AOL, MSN Yahoo etc. 
thinking they see spam coming from my server by throttling all mail that 
goes out of the box. No clients are allowed to send email blasts. They all 
run it thru a trickler app and as a result skate safely under the radar of 
every frequency filter out there to date.
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just freakin' loaded with AOL, Hotmail etc. They do mailings in the 5-10,000 
piece range with nothing coming back due to a temp block (stuff like "could 
not deliver because user does not exist" when you know it does in fact exist 
and later, on retry, the mail goes thru). Same goes for a commercial vendor 
sending out daily alert-type emails showing product in inventory matching a 
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RE: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Russ]

There was some talk about the url rewriting, and this was given as the
alternative to URL rewriting in apache 

http://www.isapirewrite.com/

What about blocking .svn folders.  Someone mentioned that this was trivial
to do in Apache... how do you do this in IIS?



-Original Message-
From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 4:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: IIS 6 VS Apache

Do you have examples of products to handle url rewriting in IIS?

On 8/24/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IIS is a LOT easier to deal with. Apache is still more flexible, IMHO,
although commercial products are available to add some of the coolest Apache
features (URL re-writing, URL spelling correction, HTML page compression) to
IIS.
> 
> 
> >Q: Which are you more comfortable working with/administering?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:49 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: OT: IIS 6 VS Apache
> >
> >What is the general recommendation now of what to use on Windows Server
> >2003?  Is IIS 6 better then apache, or is apache still the preferred
> >solution for performance, security, etc.
> 
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Re: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[Rick Root]

Ian Skinner wrote:
> 
> It's CF-Dynamics shared hosting.  So I would presume so, but I will ask.  
> Unless a CF-dynamics person speaks up here.  I believe they have been known 
> to watch this forum.

Don't assume that =)  800hosting doesn't do reverse DNS unless you ask 
them to (kind of obnoxious but oh well)

One of the big things is to generate a Message ID.



IMO, Coldfusion SHOULD automatically generate message IDs if they don't 
already exist, but oh well.

Reverse DNS is VERY important.

An SPF record could also come in handle though I'm not sure how many 
people are checking SPF records right now.

Other suggestions previously mentioned are useful to.

If you are selling penis enlargement pills, your emails will nearly 
always be tagged as spam.  I bet a lot of people won't see THIS message now!

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Re: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Jerry Johnson]

Do you have examples of products to handle url rewriting in IIS?

On 8/24/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IIS is a LOT easier to deal with. Apache is still more flexible, IMHO, 
> although commercial products are available to add some of the coolest Apache 
> features (URL re-writing, URL spelling correction, HTML page compression) to 
> IIS.
> 
> 
> >Q: Which are you more comfortable working with/administering?
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:49 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: OT: IIS 6 VS Apache
> >
> >What is the general recommendation now of what to use on Windows Server
> >2003?  Is IIS 6 better then apache, or is apache still the preferred
> >solution for performance, security, etc.
> 
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Re: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Rick Root]

Russ wrote:
> What is the general recommendation now of what to use on Windows Server
> 2003?  Is IIS 6 better then apache, or is apache still the preferred
> solution for performance, security, etc. 

I do a lot of work with both, and while I like Apache and I find it 
easier to manage configuration data, doing SSL with IIS is *FAR* easier.

I think Microsoft took a beating with the security issues in IIS 5 and 
did a pretty good job of making IIS 6 a much more robust product.

Apache still has things that you can't do with IIS like loadable modules 
and .htaccess files, but as is typical for Microsoft, they're taking the 
best featurs of other products and implementing them - IIS 7 has support 
for both (although they don't call them .htaccess files, I think they're 
actually XML configuration files)

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FB3/Menu Problem

[Greg Luce]

OK, this is going to take awhile. I inherited a website from a programmer 
that fell off the radar screen. Apparently she talked this client into 
moving a dozen or so websites from one hosting company to another (Windows 
to Windows) and left with 10 of them completely broken. I have been through 
lots of code that absolutely could never have worked on any server so 
obviously the most current/complete codebase didn't always get installed for 
each site so nothing will surprise me at this point. And of course there are 
no backups.

So I have this site that uses the WebFXMenu. The root of the site is in a 
folder "www". There was an index.html with links to the site for 3 different 
languages. The site is using Fusebox 3 methodology so the 3 links point to 
index.cfm with different fuseactions for the languages. The site is in a 
folder called "NewVersion" so these links didn't work. I added "NewVersion/" 
to these links and the site works. 

There is an admin section in folder "www/NewVersion/manager/". When I hit 
manager/index.cfm I get a login screen, and can login successfully in either 
IE or FF. In IE I have no WebFXMenu, but in FF I have a good menu. But in FF 
if I click on a menu item to a page where you are supposed to be able to 
edit data, the text editor (cf_activedit v:2.5) is all greyed-out. It feels 
like some paths need fixing, but I've tried everything I can think of. So 
I'm hoping the codebase really will work, but I don't understand how a 
different webserver mapping situation could have caused this.

I have downloaded a new version of the WebFXMenu but installing it looks 
daunting. 

Ideas anyone? Let me know if seeing code would help.

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Re: Get fields in an Access table

[Matt Robertson]

Didn't Isaac write up a really cool java app to do this in CFDJ?

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Re: iTEXT

[Bryan Stevenson]

> in particular the person who wants me to install it tells me iTEXT 
> provides
> a dpi and a CMYK setting which cfdocument doesn't.
> If CFMX7 actually uses iTEXT can you access it directly instead of going 
> via
> CFDocument ?
>
> Russ

Yes...I did it by accident before I knew iText was behind CFDOCUMENT ;-)

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Re: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Robert Munn]

IIS is a LOT easier to deal with. Apache is still more flexible, IMHO, although 
commercial products are available to add some of the coolest Apache features 
(URL re-writing, URL spelling correction, HTML page compression) to IIS. 


>Q: Which are you more comfortable working with/administering?
>
>
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>What is the general recommendation now of what to use on Windows Server
>2003?  Is IIS 6 better then apache, or is apache still the preferred
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RE: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[Ian Skinner]

Are you sure you have reverse DNS setup for the server sending the mail?

Emmet

It's CF-Dynamics shared hosting.  So I would presume so, but I will ask.  
Unless a CF-dynamics person speaks up here.  I believe they have been known to 
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RE: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Russ]

Well we won't be doing much administering beyond the initial setup.  I am
looking more in terms of stability, performance, security and features.  

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Subject: RE: IIS 6 VS Apache

I would say IIS because I'm more familiar with Windows UI and such.
People will swear IIS stinks and Apache rules, but for sheer usability
purposes, unless you've done a lot of work in Apache, I'd say IIS is
easier to administer.


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Q: Which are you more comfortable working with/administering?


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What is the general recommendation now of what to use on Windows Server
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RE: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Russ]

Doesn't Apache have better features though?  Such as built-in support for
url rewriting, on the fly compression, being able to secure things better
(for example, how do you block access to the .svn folders in IIS?).  

-Original Message-
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> -Original Message-
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> 
> Q: Which are you more comfortable working with/administering?

Me?  Oh my, you really want my opinion?!  Oh dear!

IIS, by far.

;^)

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RE: iTEXT

[Snake]

in particular the person who wants me to install it tells me iTEXT  provides
a dpi and a CMYK setting which cfdocument doesn't.
If CFMX7 actually uses iTEXT can you access it directly instead of going via
CFDocument ?

Russ



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Subject: Re: iTEXT

> Are there any docs anywhere for installing it on CF, can't see 
> anything on the site
>
> Russ

If it's CF 7 then iText is built-in alreadyno need to install
anythingCFDOUMENT uses it to produce PDFs

Otherwise you need to drop iText.jar in the right path.and the right
path depends on the type of install (CF as an instance on top of J2EE,
classic install, etc.).

...so you'll need to figure out where the class path is for your
particular CF install ;-)

Cheers

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RE: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Burns, John D]

I would say IIS because I'm more familiar with Windows UI and such.
People will swear IIS stinks and Apache rules, but for sheer usability
purposes, unless you've done a lot of work in Apache, I'd say IIS is
easier to administer.


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Q: Which are you more comfortable working with/administering?


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RE: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Russ]

I've worked with both, although I'm probably a little more comfortable
administering IIS, at least under a windows environment.  We have servers
running IIS and we have servers running apache both under windows and linux
platforms.  Currently I'm building a cluster, and I'm just wondering which
server is more secure/better performing under the windows platform.  



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RE: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Jim Davis]

> -Original Message-
> From: Gaulin, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Subject: RE: IIS 6 VS Apache
> 
> Q: Which are you more comfortable working with/administering?

Me?  Oh my, you really want my opinion?!  Oh dear!

IIS, by far.

;^)

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RE: Newsletter Manager Suggestions

[Kevin Aebig]

We have a Newsletter system we have for our clients to use and what we've
done has minimized the number of "spam" issues and complaints. 

We personalize each email with the recipient's first and last name as well
as other saved info. Right underneath it is the unsubscribe link. 

Though it's somewhat inconvenient, it's dropped the spam reports
significantly... 

Cheers,

Kevin

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Subject: Re: Newsletter Manager Suggestions

Emmet McGovern wrote:
> Does anyone have any experiences with the various mailing list managers
out
> there?  We need to get one and was hoping for some recommendations.

Newsletters are a risky business. Even if you do everything 
right, some recipients will accuse you of spamming for instance 
simply because they forgot they subscribed. Make sure you and all 
people allowed to send email through the manager read RFC 3098 
and keep appropriate records of subscribtions.

BTW, I use normal mailinglist software, preferably Mailman: 
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/

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RE: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[Dave.Phillips]

Dan,

Go to your command prompt and type this

nslookup

at the nslookup prompt:

>set type=ptr
>xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

Where xxx's represent your IP address you want to check for a reverse lookup.  
The results will show whether or not your IP address has a reverse lookup.  If 
it doesn't, contact your DNS provider and request them to add it.  Preferably 
it will resolve to the domain from which you are sending e-mail, but at the 
very least, it should resolve to something.

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>Are you sure you have reverse DNS setup for the server sending the mail?

How do you do this? Can it be done if your dns is provided by a registrar (like 
register.com or godaddy.com) vs running your own dns server?
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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)

[Eric J. Hoffman]

That's exactly what I am looking for...how to find that which is not shown in 
the CF admin!  :)  I don't know how to do so.



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Could you find them with some java code?  I don't have it handy, but I know 
there's some java code you can use to display all scheduled tasks.  Might be 
worth trying to see if it's showing something that isn't on the administrator 
page.

Maybe someone here knows that code offhand?

Dave

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I use Fusetalk in other high traffic installations, so I don't think its 
Fusetalk.  CF/JRUN keeps trying to fire off some process that is not even 
listed in the scheduled tasks...so the issue is some weirdness in there.

But I would check to see if you have in your exception log anything about a 
categories query from the Fusetalk area...thats what tipped me off in that 
direction.

Anyone know how to find hidden automated tasks that CF/JRUN try to fire off, or 
where the config file for that is?

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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)

[Dave.Phillips]

Could you find them with some java code?  I don't have it handy, but I know 
there's some java code you can use to display all scheduled tasks.  Might be 
worth trying to see if it's showing something that isn't on the administrator 
page.

Maybe someone here knows that code offhand?

Dave

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I use Fusetalk in other high traffic installations, so I don't think its 
Fusetalk.  CF/JRUN keeps trying to fire off some process that is not even 
listed in the scheduled tasks...so the issue is some weirdness in there.
 
But I would check to see if you have in your exception log anything about a 
categories query from the Fusetalk area...thats what tipped me off in that 
direction.
 
Anyone know how to find hidden automated tasks that CF/JRUN try to fire off, or 
where the config file for that is?

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RE: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Gaulin, Mark]

Q: Which are you more comfortable working with/administering?


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RE: Get fields in an Access table

[Todd Mathews]

If you are using MX, you could do something like this:


SELECT TOP 1 * FROM Authors






This will give you an array of structures that contain all of the field
names, case sensitivity and field type. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Bryant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:40 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Get fields in an Access table
> 
> Does anyone know a way to get the all fields (and datatypes) 
> from a table in MS Access using ColdFusion?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Steve Bryant
> Bryant Web Consulting LLC
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> http://steve.coldfusionjournal.com/
> 
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Re: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[dan martin]

>Are you sure you have reverse DNS setup for the server sending the mail?

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RE: Stupid custom tag question

[Gaulin, Mark]

If you want your tag to be like CFIF, causing logic to be skipped, then
the answer is probably "no, you can't do it".

If you are ok with the code between the start and end tags running but
with all html output removed, then yes, you can do that by messing with
the generatedcontent property.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Stupid custom tag question

I don't want to ignore the content generated by the body, I want to skip
execution of the body.  In other words, it's the processing I want to
avoid, not the output.  Like how CFIF works, except that the closing tag
still executes.

cheers,
barneyb

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> You can use thistag.generatedcontent to decide what to do with the 
> content of tag.
> 
> Russ
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"Cannot set up certs for trusted CAs"

[Charles Polisher]

I get this error & stack trace when I open the CF Administrator:

java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError: java.lang.SecurityException: Cannot set 
up certs for trusted CAs
at javax.crypto.b.([DashoPro-V1.2-120198])
at javax.crypto.Cipher.getInstance([DashoPro-V1.2-120198])
at coldfusion.compiler.TemplateReader.decrypt(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.compiler.TemplateReader.(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.compiler.NeoTranslationContext.getPageReader(Unknown 
Source)
at coldfusion.compiler.NeoTranslator.translateJava(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.compiler.NeoTranslator.translateJava(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateClassLoader$1.fetch(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.util.LruCache.get(Unknown Source)
at 
coldfusion.runtime.TemplateClassLoader$TemplateCache.fetchSerial(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.util.AbstractCache.fetch(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.util.SoftCache.get(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.filter.LicenseFilter.invoke(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(Unknown Source)
at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(Unknown Source)
at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:106)
at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
at 
jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:241)
at 
jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:527)
at jrun.servlet.http.WebService.invokeRunnable(WebService.java:172)
at 
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:348)
at 
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:451)
at 
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:294)
at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

Can anyone help? ColdFusion is serving up pages okay...

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Re: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[dan martin]

>Are you sure you have reverse DNS setup for the server sending the mail?

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RE: Newsletter Manager Suggestions

[Dave.Phillips]

Jochem van Dieten wrote:
>some recipients will accuse you of spamming for instance 
>simply because they forgot they subscribed.

Not to mention when they decide they don't want it anymore, and from that point 
on, all future newsletters are considered spam.  Like you were supposed to know 
they didn't want it anymore... I guess read their mind... and automatically 
unsubscribe them because they "THOUGHT" about not reading it anymore

Oh joy.

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RE: Stupid custom tag question

[Matt Osbun]

Not sure, exactly, if this is what you're looking for, but what about 


  


I use that on occasion for optional content.  Something like


  Optional or conditional content


Is this what you're thinking of?

Matt Osbun
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Health Systems, International


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Stupid custom tag question


I want to execute the start tag, then OPTIONALLY execute the body of
the tag, and then execute the close tag.  thistag.executionmode will
only tell me which part of the tag (opening or closing) is currently
execution, and doesn't tell me anything about the body of the tag.

As near as I can tell, this is impossible with CF (though trivial with
JSP).

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/24/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Do this
> 
> 
> Will only do anything on the closing tag.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 August 2005 18:34
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Stupid custom tag question
> 
> Whoops, I screwed up.  I want to skip the body, but still execute the
> closing tag.  So that should be method="goToJustBEFOREClosingTag".
> Not sure what I was thinking.  To complete the thought,
method="exittag"
> does what I described below, but that's NOT what I want.
> 
> On 8/24/05, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a way to, in the opening tag of a custom tag, tell the
custom
> > tag to skip evaluation of it's body?
> >
> > 
> >   i don't want to do this
> > 
> >
> > mytag.cfm:
> > 
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > barneyb
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RE: Stupid custom tag question

[Dave Francis]

This is happening outside the tag, it is just html/cfml. You could decide to
generate output based on a url param, application var, whatever:



  this is the tag body of the tag "c:mytag"



-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Stupid custom tag question


The body of the tag is the "stuff" between the opening and closing
tags in the calling markup.  For example:


  this is the tag body of the tag "c:mytag"


cheers,
barneyb

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> But any part of the body of the tag will be either "start" or "end",
whether
> you select it or not. If you mean you want to selectively execute a common
> part of the tag, you could control that with an attribute I suppose?
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OT: IIS 6 VS Apache

[Russ]

What is the general recommendation now of what to use on Windows Server
2003?  Is IIS 6 better then apache, or is apache still the preferred
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Re: CFINDEX - how to add/update a single record in an existing collection?

[Pete Ruckelshaus]

Boy, it's just my day for search-related questions.

I'm seeing something weird here and want to know if this is normal. 
I'm creating an index from a database query.  The collection contains
about 14k records, and the initial collection size (immediately upon
creation) is about 79MB.

Optimizing that collection after it is created reduces the collection
size to about 37MB!  Now, given that all the total size of my database
is only about 100MB and that there is a ton of other data in there,
I'm willing to believe that the post-optimization size is the correct
one, and that collections suffer from some amazing bloat when they are
created.

So, first, is my experience consistent with that of others, and
second, would a better strategy be to create a collection and then
optimize it immediately afterwards?

Thanks,

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Re: Newsletter Manager Suggestions

[Jochem van Dieten]

Emmet McGovern wrote:
> Does anyone have any experiences with the various mailing list managers out
> there?  We need to get one and was hoping for some recommendations.

Newsletters are a risky business. Even if you do everything 
right, some recipients will accuse you of spamming for instance 
simply because they forgot they subscribed. Make sure you and all 
people allowed to send email through the manager read RFC 3098 
and keep appropriate records of subscribtions.

BTW, I use normal mailinglist software, preferably Mailman: 
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/

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RE: Get fields in an Access table

[Dave.Phillips]

Maybe this link will help:

http://www.databasejournal.com/features/msaccess/article.php/3528491

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Get fields in an Access table


 >>I cant remember exactly step by step but there are hidden system 
tables in
 >>access

This will give you a list of all tables, but forget about columns and 
types :-(

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RE: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[Dave.Phillips]

Well, in my experience, getting mail into the inbox can be different depending 
on the service of the receiver of the e-mail.

AOL:
Sign your server up for whitelisting at http://postmaster.aol.com.  If you're 
on a shared server, you can't do this, though, so you'd need to be on a 
dedicated server.  Once whitelisted, I've not had trouble getting AOL mail 
through for several months now.

MSN & Hotmail:
Good luck.  I've never had any success getting MSN to offer a whitelisting.  
Evidently, www.bondedsender.com has some deal with them, but it can be pricy if 
you get ANY spam complaints at all (even false spam complaints).

Yahoo:
You can apply for 'delivery to the inbox' instead of in the bulk mail folder, 
but I've never been successful in getting approved for this.  Do some searching 
in their help section for the application.  They 'monitor' your mail for a few 
days and then tell you what they think about it.  Bottom line is if you have a 
large amount of mail coming out of your server to @yahoo.com addresses, you're 
giong to end up in the bulk mail folder (unless the receiver has added you to 
their safe sender list.

Other mail servers:

You can use the free tool at:

http://spamcheck.sitesell.com/

To check and see how many mail server filters generally will receive your 
content.  This will help eliminate some blocking, but ultimately, you will end 
up in junk mail & bulk mail folders if you're sending a large quantity of mail 
from your server.

** One thing to keep in mind...most mail servers & providers base whether your 
mail is classified as bulk mail based on the quantity of mail coming from your 
SERVER, not your DOMAIN.  This is important to understand as if you're on a 
shared server, or if you share your server with others, you might get classifed 
as bulk because of their activities.

This is by no means an exhaustive list, just what I can come up with from 
memory.  Hope it helps.  I'm sure some others will have some comments here for 
you too.

Oh, one more thing...plain text e-mails are most always more likely to be 
delivered than HTML e-mails.  I send all my e-commerce 'receipt' e-mails in 
plain text and then a 'welcome' e-mail in HTML nicely formatted separately.

Dave

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails


I have a simple PayPal based registration system for our site: 
www.sierraOutdoorRecreation.com.  Upon completion of the payment process, I 
send out a standard confirmation e-mail with initial username and password and 
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We are having a fairly high incidence of these e-mails being trapped in spam 
filters and not reaching the intended recipients.  

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Re: DESPERATE!!! Any way to embed SWF within CFDOCUMENT (PREVIOUSLY CFDOCUMENT ERROR)

[John Dowdell]

Andy McShane wrote:
> Thanks Kevin, I like the idea of the swf to pdf converter, do you know of
> such a tool? I think I may also have to have a closer at flirt also. I am
> afraid that your first suggestion does not really mean anything to me, how
> would you print out the flash to file to postscript?

I read the thread, but my understanding of the problem changed a few 
times. Recent versions of Adobe Reader can embed and display SWF files. 
A SWF file can be referenced in any HTML page. SWF itself can print a 
screen or alternative display. Are any of these topics of interest to 
you...?

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Re: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[Pete Ruckelshaus]

A quick Google found this
http://www.cyberlynk.net/customercare_tutorials/dsp_cfmail.cfm

On 8/24/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If they are HTML emails they will often get caught as these are generally
> considered spam.
> If it is an opt-in list you really need to tell users to add you to their
> whitelist so they can receive your emails.
> 
> Russ
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 August 2005 18:48
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails
> 
> I have a simple PayPal based registration system for our site:
> www.sierraOutdoorRecreation.com.  Upon completion of the payment process, I
> send out a standard confirmation e-mail with initial username and password
> and transaction data.
> 
> We are having a fairly high incidence of these e-mails being trapped in spam
> filters and not reaching the intended recipients.
> 
> What can I do to make these e-mails less spam looking?
> 
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RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)

[Eric J. Hoffman]

I use Fusetalk in other high traffic installations, so I don't think its 
Fusetalk.  CF/JRUN keeps trying to fire off some process that is not even 
listed in the scheduled tasks...so the issue is some weirdness in there.
 
But I would check to see if you have in your exception log anything about a 
categories query from the Fusetalk area...thats what tipped me off in that 
direction.
 
Anyone know how to find hidden automated tasks that CF/JRUN try to fire off, or 
where the config file for that is?



From: Dustin M Snell [Network Automation] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 8/24/2005 11:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)



This is very interesting. We use Fusetalk over here as well. Problem is, I
don't want to disable it because we actively use it! Can you be more
specific about what exactly you need to do to fix the problem? Does it
require discontinuing use of Fusetalk altogether?

-Dustin Snell
Network Automation, Inc

-Original Message-
From: Eric J. Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 8:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control (found issue)

Okay, I think I have found the issueit was trying to run some file over
and over. 

I removed the directory as it wasn't in use any longer.  Here's the freak
show:  I removed all scheduled tasks, etc, mappings, etc to the Fusetalk
Forums that was firing up this query over and over.  I even deleted *all*
scheduled tasks for now.

Restarted. 

Now, it just gives me an error file not found in the exception.log every
thirty seconds.  At least memory has stabilized, my i/o just getting some
love now.   But the server is staying up.

Stopped the IIS website even that was where the forums were stored.
Restarted CF.  Same flippin thing happening.

NOW, how can this be?  Is there a file that contains/runs certain scheduled
tasks that in some way may not have properly deleted this process...I
started to look for a scheduled task xml file somewhere but not real certain
where its stored.  I mean, it starts right from the get go like a dog after
a bone.

Any thoughts from other server guys on this one?



From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 8/24/2005 9:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control



That does not solve the problem, it only covers the problem up. What
does SQL Profiler tell you, what is happening in terms of SQL Server
traffic?

Maybe Macromedia can come up with an answer, my guess is you are not the

only one with this bug.

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From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: woensdag 24 augustus 2005 15:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Old saw: jrun.exe out of control

> Out of the blue, jrun.exe is going bananas on me.  Every
> four hours I have to reboot.

> I am sure others dealt with this, any advice?  I have the
> cumulative hotfixes to number 3 installed, etc, everything
> is up to date.  Besides performing an exorcism?

> Thanks.


If you think it might be client variable related, disable global
client variable updates in CF Admin. Or whatever it's called. :P



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Re: cfgrid update using cfquery

[Felipe Fernandes]

David, after play a little with the flash forms what I can tell you is
to not let the user make more than one kind of modification (if they
update don´t let them insert or delete, and so on). Another bug is try
to edit some row, than click in another row,  don´t update it and send
the form you gonna see that the form.gridname structure isn´t an
array. What I do is use this code to insert and delete rows.


GridData.insertRow(myGrid);
_global.backupDP.push(myGrid.getItemAt(myGrid.length -1));
remove.enabled=false;



var item = myGrid.selectedItem;
if(_global.backupDP != undefined)
{
for(var i = 0; i < _global.backupDP.length; i++)
{
if(_global.backupDP[i] == item)
{
_global.backupDP.removeItemAt(i);
}
}
}
GridData.deleteRow(myGrid);
inser.enabled=false;


  
  

With this, your user wont be able to insert and delete rows without
refreshing the form, but to prevent the second bug i mentioned, you
will need to make some changes in your form, insted of letting your
user edit in the grid, bind some text fields to the grid and set your
selectmode to browse in the grid, than put a {btn_send.enabled =
false;} in the onchange atribute of your grid (if your send button is
named btn_send). And in the onchange of the text input fields put
btn_send.enabled = true; after the code to edit the grid.
This sould take care of those two bugs in the cfgrid in flash format.

Felipe



On 8/23/05, David Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are using Flash forms with a cfgrid on it.  The grid is in edit mode.  I 
> have my cfc working now and I am able to update/delete/insert based on the 
> cfgridname.rowstatus.action[counter] value.
> 
> But I have found an error or bug not sure.
> 
> I bring up the grid with data from a query 2 rows.  I then insert a new row 
> in the grid and add content.  I then delete the first row that was returned 
> (original data) and then edit the 2nd row (now the first row since the first 
> was deleted) data.
> 
> I cfdump form[gridname] & ".rowstatus.action"] and see 3 elements in the 
> array in the following order [u][d][I].  the value of the original primary 
> key column of the [U] row is empty.  If I don't delete a row in the grid then 
> the value of the original primary key column is correct.
> 
> Has anyone see this?
> 
> I can provide the code if needed.
> 
> David
> 
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RE: Newsletter Manager Suggestions

[Dave.Phillips]

If you want a full-blown web-based contact and e-mail management solution:

http://www.bizbreeze.com

Dave

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Subject: Newsletter Manager Suggestions


Does anyone have any experiences with the various mailing list managers out
there?  We need to get one and was hoping for some recommendations.

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Re: iTEXT

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Russ

> Are there any docs anywhere for installing it on CF, can't see anything on
> the site

You just need to get hold of the jar file and drop it in somewhere on the
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Re: Stupid custom tag question

[Barney Boisvert]

That doesn't work, because it forces the optional processing to be
defined INSIDE the custom tag, rather than in the CALLING template.

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/24/05, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something wrong with the relatively trivial:
> 
> Inside your custom tag:
> 
> 
> Do what you want
> 
> 
> Called with a page like this:
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[Jerry Johnson]

Not definitive, and some may not be necessary, but here is what I try to do:

Dont put "your order" or "receipt" in the subject.
Dont put "opt out" or "remove yourself" in the body.
Dont have any swear words. Or Viagra. Or enlargement.
Have a good valid word to nonsense word (not found in a dictionary) ratio
If at all possible, send as txt. If not possible due to marketing and
design types, send as combo html and txt.
Make sure the From and repond-to fields are well named (don't use
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Stay away from !
Stay away from all caps.
Make sure all URLs make sense and are human readable
Make sure your mail server has a valid mx record.
Dont use the color "red" or "ff" in your html.
Avoid sizes like XX and XXX and use the more standard XXL and XXXL

Of course, you could also run the sample of your email through trial
versions of various filter to see what about it is getting filtered.

Or send the list the content of the email for another dozen set of
eyes. Maybe we could pick out the obvious culprits.

On 8/24/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If they are HTML emails they will often get caught as these are generally
> considered spam.
> If it is an opt-in list you really need to tell users to add you to their
> whitelist so they can receive your emails.
> 
> Russ
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 August 2005 18:48
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails
> 
> I have a simple PayPal based registration system for our site:
> www.sierraOutdoorRecreation.com.  Upon completion of the payment process, I
> send out a standard confirmation e-mail with initial username and password
> and transaction data.
> 
> We are having a fairly high incidence of these e-mails being trapped in spam
> filters and not reaching the intended recipients.
> 
> What can I do to make these e-mails less spam looking?
> 
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> BloodSource
> www.BloodSource.org
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> 
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Re: Stupid custom tag question

[Daniel Mackey]

I think your going to have to put a CFIF to decide as I cant see an 
alternative.



   //Run body



Barney Boisvert wrote:

>I don't want to ignore the content generated by the body, I want to
>skip execution of the body.  In other words, it's the processing I
>want to avoid, not the output.  Like how CFIF works, except that the
>closing tag still executes.
>
>cheers,
>barneyb
>
>On 8/24/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>You can use thistag.generatedcontent to decide what to do with the content
>>of tag.
>>
>>Russ
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
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Re: Stupid custom tag question

[Barney Boisvert]

The body of the tag is the "stuff" between the opening and closing
tags in the calling markup.  For example:


  this is the tag body of the tag "c:mytag"


cheers,
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On 8/24/05, Dave Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But any part of the body of the tag will be either "start" or "end", whether
> you select it or not. If you mean you want to selectively execute a common
> part of the tag, you could control that with an attribute I suppose?
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RE: CFINDEX - how to add/update a single record in an existing collection?

[Dave.Phillips]

As for optimizing, I would consider doing it daily if you're making several 
updates and/or refreshes throughout the day.  If you're only doing a refresh 
once a day, then I would optimize once a week or no more than once every other 
day.  I think it would be overkill to optimize every day if you're only 
refreshing once a day.

Dave

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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 12:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFINDEX - how to add/update a single record in an existing
collection?


I ended up taking Dave's query for a single record approach because it
simplified a number of things.  Because of the nature of the app, I
update some of the data one column at a time, but it still needs to be
indexed immediately.  I have a CFC with an updateCollection method
that I just pass a collection name and record ID.

Followup question.  What contributes to the degradation of verity
collections?  Will updating single records in a collection kill verity
search performance?  What strategy should I take with
repairing/optimizing collections...scheduled task to do it hourly, or
would just once a day suffice?

Thanks for the help,

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Re: Stupid custom tag question

[Daniel Mackey]

By referencing thisTag.generatedContent, you could possibly do what you 
want.

This is taking the following for granted:

1) Start tag is 
2) Body of tag is [in between start and end]
3) End tag is 

By setting thisTag.generatedContent to "" i.e: Nothing, then what you 
have in between will not be written out. That doesnt mean it wont be 
executed though.

I would set an attribute to determine when you need to output and when 
not to.

Therefore:






Perform your work

  



holds through.

Dan.

Barney Boisvert wrote:

>I want to execute the start tag, then OPTIONALLY execute the body of
>the tag, and then execute the close tag.  thistag.executionmode will
>only tell me which part of the tag (opening or closing) is currently
>execution, and doesn't tell me anything about the body of the tag.
>
>As near as I can tell, this is impossible with CF (though trivial with JSP).
>
>cheers,
>barneyb
>
>On 8/24/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>
>>Do this
>>
>>
>>Will only do anything on the closing tag.
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: 24 August 2005 18:34
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Re: Stupid custom tag question
>>
>>Whoops, I screwed up.  I want to skip the body, but still execute the
>>closing tag.  So that should be method="goToJustBEFOREClosingTag".
>>Not sure what I was thinking.  To complete the thought, method="exittag"
>>does what I described below, but that's NOT what I want.
>>
>>On 8/24/05, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Is there a way to, in the opening tag of a custom tag, tell the custom
>>>tag to skip evaluation of it's body?
>>>
>>>
>>>  i don't want to do this
>>>
>>>
>>>mytag.cfm:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>barneyb
>>>
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RE: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[Emmet McGovern]

Are you sure you have reverse DNS setup for the server sending the mail?

Emmet

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From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:48 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

I have a simple PayPal based registration system for our site:
www.sierraOutdoorRecreation.com.  Upon completion of the payment process, I
send out a standard confirmation e-mail with initial username and password
and transaction data.

We are having a fairly high incidence of these e-mails being trapped in spam
filters and not reaching the intended recipients.  

What can I do to make these e-mails less spam looking?

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RE: iTEXT

[Snake]

Are there any docs anywhere for installing it on CF, can't see anything on
the site

Russ 

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Sent: 24 August 2005 18:39
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: iTEXT

Russ

> I have been asked to install iText on a shared server, but it seems 
> that
it
> could potentially be unsafe to do so as I would imagine iText has   the
> ability to read/file files anywhere on the server seeing as java
components
> are not affected by a security sandbox.

I don't think iText itself does any file access. If your customers aren't
allowed to use CFOBJECT or CreateObject, then they won't be able to do much
with it. If they are, then they will have access to the java.io classes
anyway. It's those classes that do the actual file reading & writing - iText
just adds functionality which understands how certain types of files are
structured.

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RE: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[Snake]

If they are HTML emails they will often get caught as these are generally
considered spam.
If it is an opt-in list you really need to tell users to add you to their
whitelist so they can receive your emails.

Russ 

-Original Message-
From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 August 2005 18:48
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

I have a simple PayPal based registration system for our site:
www.sierraOutdoorRecreation.com.  Upon completion of the payment process, I
send out a standard confirmation e-mail with initial username and password
and transaction data.

We are having a fairly high incidence of these e-mails being trapped in spam
filters and not reaching the intended recipients.  

What can I do to make these e-mails less spam looking?

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Re: iTEXT

[Bryan Stevenson]

> Are there any docs anywhere for installing it on CF, can't see anything on
> the site
>
> Russ

If it's CF 7 then iText is built-in alreadyno need to install 
anythingCFDOUMENT uses it to produce PDFs

Otherwise you need to drop iText.jar in the right path.and the right 
path depends on the type of install (CF as an instance on top of J2EE, 
classic install, etc.).

..so you'll need to figure out where the class path is for your 
particular CF install ;-)

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Re: Stupid custom tag question

[Barney Boisvert]

I don't want to ignore the content generated by the body, I want to
skip execution of the body.  In other words, it's the processing I
want to avoid, not the output.  Like how CFIF works, except that the
closing tag still executes.

cheers,
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On 8/24/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can use thistag.generatedcontent to decide what to do with the content
> of tag.
> 
> Russ
> 

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RE: Stupid custom tag question

[Ian Skinner]

Something wrong with the relatively trivial:

Inside your custom tag:


Do what you want


Called with a page like this:




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RE: Stupid custom tag question

[Dave Francis]

But any part of the body of the tag will be either "start" or "end", whether
you select it or not. If you mean you want to selectively execute a common
part of the tag, you could control that with an attribute I suppose?

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Stupid custom tag question


I want to execute the start tag, then OPTIONALLY execute the body of
the tag, and then execute the close tag.  thistag.executionmode will
only tell me which part of the tag (opening or closing) is currently
execution, and doesn't tell me anything about the body of the tag.

As near as I can tell, this is impossible with CF (though trivial with JSP).

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/24/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Do this
> 
>
> Will only do anything on the closing tag.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 August 2005 18:34
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Stupid custom tag question
>
> Whoops, I screwed up.  I want to skip the body, but still execute the
> closing tag.  So that should be method="goToJustBEFOREClosingTag".
> Not sure what I was thinking.  To complete the thought, method="exittag"
> does what I described below, but that's NOT what I want.
>
> On 8/24/05, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a way to, in the opening tag of a custom tag, tell the custom
> > tag to skip evaluation of it's body?
> >
> > 
> >   i don't want to do this
> > 
> >
> > mytag.cfm:
> > 
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > barneyb
> >
> > --
> > Barney Boisvert
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 360.319.6145
> > http://www.barneyb.com/
> >
> > Got Gmail? I have 50 invites.
> >
>
>
> --
> Barney Boisvert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 360.319.6145
> http://www.barneyb.com/
>
> Got Gmail? I have 50 invites.
>
>
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RE: Stupid custom tag question

[Snake]

You can use thistag.generatedcontent to decide what to do with the content
of tag.

Russ 

-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 August 2005 18:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Stupid custom tag question

I want to execute the start tag, then OPTIONALLY execute the body of the
tag, and then execute the close tag.  thistag.executionmode will only tell
me which part of the tag (opening or closing) is currently execution, and
doesn't tell me anything about the body of the tag.

As near as I can tell, this is impossible with CF (though trivial with JSP).

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/24/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Do this
> 
> 
> Will only do anything on the closing tag.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 August 2005 18:34
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Stupid custom tag question
> 
> Whoops, I screwed up.  I want to skip the body, but still execute the 
> closing tag.  So that should be method="goToJustBEFOREClosingTag".
> Not sure what I was thinking.  To complete the thought, method="exittag"
> does what I described below, but that's NOT what I want.
> 
> On 8/24/05, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a way to, in the opening tag of a custom tag, tell the 
> > custom tag to skip evaluation of it's body?
> >
> > 
> >   i don't want to do this
> > 
> >
> > mytag.cfm:
> > 
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > barneyb
> >
> > --
> > Barney Boisvert
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 360.319.6145
> > http://www.barneyb.com/
> >
> > Got Gmail? I have 50 invites.
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Barney Boisvert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 360.319.6145
> http://www.barneyb.com/
> 
> Got Gmail? I have 50 invites.
> 
> 
> 
> 



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RE: Newsletter Manager Suggestions

[Emmet McGovern]

I need one in house.  We've been getting a lot of requests for mailing
management features for clients recently.  Mainly those in the real estate
market requesting HTML mail and tracking.  

The one from Oprea.org looks decent.

-e

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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Newsletter Manager Suggestions

On 8/24/05, Emmet McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have any experiences with the various mailing list managers
out
> there?  We need to get one and was hoping for some recommendations.

If you do not want to host the mailing lists on your server, 
FreeLists.org is an excellent (and free) mailing lists service that
can do it for you. However, the lists are all Internet and
technology-related. Check it out at http://www.freelists.org/

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Re: cfapplication

[daniel kessler]

hey, thanks alot guys. I understand it alot better.  I'd have replied sooner 
but I was so excited about getting this right, I was recoding a bunch of pages.

!!

>Couple of quick answers:
>
>1) >
>2) >
>3)>
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Lowering spam profile of CF generated emails

[Ian Skinner]

I have a simple PayPal based registration system for our site: 
www.sierraOutdoorRecreation.com.  Upon completion of the payment process, I 
send out a standard confirmation e-mail with initial username and password and 
transaction data.

We are having a fairly high incidence of these e-mails being trapped in spam 
filters and not reaching the intended recipients.  

What can I do to make these e-mails less spam looking?

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Re: Stupid custom tag question

[Barney Boisvert]

I want to execute the start tag, then OPTIONALLY execute the body of
the tag, and then execute the close tag.  thistag.executionmode will
only tell me which part of the tag (opening or closing) is currently
execution, and doesn't tell me anything about the body of the tag.

As near as I can tell, this is impossible with CF (though trivial with JSP).

cheers,
barneyb

On 8/24/05, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Do this
> 
> 
> Will only do anything on the closing tag.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 24 August 2005 18:34
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Stupid custom tag question
> 
> Whoops, I screwed up.  I want to skip the body, but still execute the
> closing tag.  So that should be method="goToJustBEFOREClosingTag".
> Not sure what I was thinking.  To complete the thought, method="exittag"
> does what I described below, but that's NOT what I want.
> 
> On 8/24/05, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there a way to, in the opening tag of a custom tag, tell the custom
> > tag to skip evaluation of it's body?
> >
> > 
> >   i don't want to do this
> > 
> >
> > mytag.cfm:
> > 
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > barneyb
> >
> > --
> > Barney Boisvert
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 360.319.6145
> > http://www.barneyb.com/
> >
> > Got Gmail? I have 50 invites.
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Barney Boisvert
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 360.319.6145
> http://www.barneyb.com/
> 
> Got Gmail? I have 50 invites.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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