Re: [Cooker] sparc 7.2beta3 ???

2000-10-07 Thread Antony Suter


Cooker is a good alternative to 7.2beta at the moment.

Michael O'Rourke wrote:
 
 I don't think you're going to find it...
 Only 7.1 Beta is out for the Sparc processors.
 
 Mike
 
 Michael Shuey wrote:
 
  
   My apologies - I assumed you specifically wanted the 7.2beta.
  
   Here is the link to the cooker packages, which I have just verified contains
   about 1500 .rpm files...
 
  I did specifically want the 7.2beta.  While cooker does contain around 1500
  RPMs, I haven't found any mirrors that have 7.2beta sparc RPMs.
 
   ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/8/Mandrake-devel/cooker/sparc/Mandrake/RPMS/
 
  These RPMs exist.  There are cooker packages for sparc.  However, I'm looking
  for 7.2beta for sparc, which doesn't seem to be on any mirrors.  rpmfind.net
  and ftp.free.fi both have the sparc install disks but neither have the sparc
  RPMs.

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[Cooker] UPDATE: XFree86 4.0.2 NOT 2b released anytime soon

2000-10-07 Thread fhj

Below is copy of email Mr. Dawes was kind enough to send me.


On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 11:26:27AM -0500, I wrote:
Hello,

The rumor is that xFree4.0.2 will be released in a few days.  Is that why
this page

That rumour is incorrect.

http://www.xfree86.org/releaseplans.html#40  still contains

" Our next full 4.0.x release will be 4.0.2, and we are planning to have
that available sometime in September 2000. "  under the heading  " XFree86
4.x " ???

That was our plan, but it didn't work out that way.  I've changed that
page to say "sometime in late 2000."

David
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Founder/President, The XFree86 Project, Inc  Phone: +1 510 687 6857
http://www.xfree86.org/  Fax:   +61 2 9897 3755

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[Cooker] Ssamba on Alpha Fix proposal

2000-10-07 Thread Stefan van der Eijk

Hi,

Recently quota support for samba has been enabled, this caused the samba
compilation to cease on my alpha:

Compiling smbd/quotas.c
smbd/quotas.c:55: parse error before `quotactl'
smbd/quotas.c:55: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
make: *** [smbd/quotas.o] Error 1
Bad exit status from /users/cooker/tmp/rpm-tmp.54760 (%build)

I remember having this problem with quota support on samba for some time
(back to the 2.0.0 days). However, RedHat is able to produce a package
for the alpha with quota support enabled. Taking a look at the
differences between the patches that RedHat and Mandrake use I found the
following:

diff samba-glibc21.patch.rh samba-glibc21.patch.mdk
1,14c1,3
 --- samba-2.0.6/source/smbd/quotas.c.glibc21  Wed Oct 13 01:26:59 1999
 +++ samba-2.0.6/source/smbd/quotas.c  Fri Feb  4 19:58:59 2000
 @@ -39,8 +39,6 @@
  #include mntent.h
  #include linux/unistd.h

 -_syscall4(int, quotactl, int, cmd, const char *, special, int, id,
caddr_t, addr);
 -
 
/ 
try to get the disk space from disk quotas (LINUX version)
 
/
--- samba-2.0.6/source/include/includes.h.glibc21 Wed Nov 10
21:36:00 1999 +++ samba-2.0.6/source/include/includes.h Fri Feb  4
19:58:41 2000
 @@ -652,11 +652,6 @@
---
 --- samba-2.0.7/source/include/includes.h.glibc21 Tue Jul 20 21:25:05 1999 +++ 
samba-2.0.7/source/include/includes.h Wed Jul 21 10:42:47 1999
 @@ -647,11 +647,6 @@
26,28c15,17
 --- samba-2.0.6/source/client/smbmount.c.glibc21  Wed Nov 10
21:35:59 1999 +++ samba-2.0.6/source/client/smbmount.c  Fri Feb  4
19:58:41 2000
 @@ -98,8 +98,11 @@
---
 --- samba-2.0.7/source/client/smbmount.c.glibc21  Tue Jul 20 21:25:02 1999 +++ 
samba-2.0.7/source/client/smbmount.c  Wed Jul 21 10:49:28 1999
 @@ -96,8 +96,11 @@

They remove the line with the _syscall4(...
This is linenumber 55 of quotas.c, the same part the compilation
crashes. I've added the patch (removal of the _syscall4( line to
mandrake's samba-glibc21.patch, and samba compiled again (x86 also
compiles, I checked).

Can this patch be included in the cooker distro?

http://d10179.dtk.chello.nl/build/fixes/cooker/samba-2.0.7-17mdk.src.rpm
http://d10179.dtk.chello.nl/build/fixes/cooker/samba.spec
http://d10179.dtk.chello.nl/build/fixes/cooker/samba.spec.diff
http://d10179.dtk.chello.nl/build/fixes/cooker/samba.spec.orig

Stefan




Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum

2000-10-07 Thread Warren Doney

Graham Percival wrote:
 
 Millions of electrons died to bring me this message.  Was it worth it,
  Warren Doney?
  This is a good idea, things that seem simple to us can baffle
  beginners. I recall, for instance, when asked to "specify the mount
  point of the root partition" I repeatedly tried "root" instead of
  "/" :o)
 
 Isn't that what "auto allocate" is for?

Yes, but 6.1 didn't have it ~1yr ago - that was just a general 
example.

[]

 Apart from hardware support and partitioning, what 
 newbie-unfriendliness is there?

The point of asking people who have never tried installing it is to
find out if there's something that has been missed

-WBD




Re: [Cooker] compiling drakx

2000-10-07 Thread Pixel

"m" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 stuff.xs:146: `CDC_CD_RW' undeclared (first use in this function)

CDC_CD_RW comes from /usr/include/linux/cdrom.h, check you have uptodate kernel
sources




Re: [Cooker] network.img

2000-10-07 Thread Pixel

"m" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 * running: /bin/insmod /bin/insmod /modules/pci-scan.o

fixed in latest version.




Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum

2000-10-07 Thread Alexander Skwar

On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 03:08:17PM -0700, Graham Percival wrote:
 If somebody really wants to get away from MS, it's possible.  They might have
 to spend a week learning that you only need to single-click in KDE instead of
 double-click, but anybody who seriously tries can do it.

Or to find the switch that turns of this annoying behaviour.  Besides even
in Windows 98 you can just do a single click.  

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Re: [Cooker] Still want to use gcc-2.95.2-7mdk

2000-10-07 Thread Jan Niehusmann

On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 05:34:35PM +0800, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
 hackgcc is only in contribs. Once upon a time, Chmouel put it in for main
 but it was too unstable so we reverted to 2.95.

While I prefer 2.95, too, I wonder if this has consequences on binary 
compatibility. As far as I know, C code is not a problem, but C++ code
may be incompatible between different compiler releases.

So, a binary released for redhat 7 may not work on mandrake, if it contains
C++ code and is linked against shared C++ libraries.

Does anyone know if this problem really exists or if 2.95 and 2.96 are
compatible in this regard?

Jan





Re: [Cooker] network.img

2000-10-07 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

"m" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 * running: /bin/insmod /bin/insmod /modules/pci-scan.o

The dependences on pci-scan and some network drivers has been removed
with the last BOOT[89]

-- 
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Paris, France --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] XFree bug

2000-10-07 Thread Leon Brooks

Ed Wilts wrote:
 The XFree on the beta 3 CD contains a bug in configuring the SiS 6326 card.

I wouldn't call that a bug. Your mileage varies *enormously* in getting hardware
acceleration to go on the 6326 cards, even identical cards with consecutive
serial numbers. Without accel, everything is pretty much guaranteed to work
(except sometimes you must configure it for a software cursor!)

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running away is best. -- Chinese Proverb




[Cooker] kde-1.99, something better something wrong... KVIRC: seg_fault

2000-10-07 Thread Claudio

Hi All!   ;)
Well I installed kde-1.99 on 7.2 beta 3...
It finally happen that aktion can open some files with no crash!
On the other side, all I obtain lunching KvIRC-1.99 is the **usual**
segmentation fault. Still I may not compile kvirc from srpm or from .tar.gz so
I guess it's a qt2-problem...

Claudio




[Cooker] Installer still won't build RAID when partioning filesystem!

2000-10-07 Thread Claudio

Hi again!
OK, I tryed to build a small /boot partition as someone suggested. The I tryed
to install such a system:

/dev/hda1   512MB   SWAP
/dev/hda2   60MB/boot
/dev/hda5 + /dev/hdb5   8.0GB   /   (raid 0)
/dev/hda6 + /dev/hdc6   7.0GB   /home   (raid 1)

As I click on "done" (in diskdrake) it tells me: "You must a root (/) partition
to procede with install"... BUT I HAVE IT!!! I USED SUCH A SCHEME WITH
MANDRAKE 7.1 AND I WORKED PERFECTLY!!!
Any suggestion about that?
Please, developers, don't let me make the raid devices by hand!  :°°(

Claudio




Re: [Cooker] kde-1.99, something better something wrong... KVIRC: seg_fault

2000-10-07 Thread Daouda LO

Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi All!   ;)
 Well I installed kde-1.99 on 7.2 beta 3...
 It finally happen that aktion can open some files with no crash!
 On the other side, all I obtain lunching KvIRC-1.99 is the **usual**
 segmentation fault. Still I may not compile kvirc from srpm or from .tar.gz so
 I guess it's a qt2-problem...

this pb is fixed ! upgrade to kvirc-2.0.0-1.99.2mdk.i586.rpm

-- 
Daouda LO   MandrakeSoft SA




Re: [Cooker] Ulysses does not install

2000-10-07 Thread Leon Brooks

"Ernesto [ErneX] Gonzalez Aroca" wrote:
 I've tried to install Mandrake 7.2 with no success, the cd loads ok and then
 gives an error trying to mount the cdrom drive. I have installed redhat,
 mandrake 7.0 - 7.1 with no problems on the same machine.

Have had what appears to be the same problem. Seems to care about the CD drive
(Acer 50-speed model 650P-003 in my case) and yet works OK in one out of four
machines here (a K6-II-300 works, another doesn't (both Azza mobos), a K6-II-450
(AOpen mobo) fails, a Pentium-120 fails). Using a different CD drive helps.
Seems to work with a dodgy old 8-speed but the drive's so dead it never finishes
an install (increasing arror rate and dies completely about 2/3 of way through).
Using a DVD (TUV model SR-8585B) breaks it even on the machine that succeeds
with the Acer CD.

Symptom is "entering second stage install... [dead]".

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to observe all the niceties of etiquette when you're being chased down
the street by a nine-headed cactus demon. -- P. J. O'Rourke




Re: [Cooker] UPDATE: XFree86 4.0.2 NOT 2b released anytime soon

2000-10-07 Thread Leon Brooks

neognomic wrote:
 Below is copy of email Mr. Dawes was kind enough to send me.

 That was our plan, but it didn't work out that way.  I've changed that
 page to say "sometime in late 2000."

A little more precision would be nice. (-:

Does Mr Dawes have even a definite month in mind? Can you ask, since he's
already talking to you?

-- 
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with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
-- Galileo Galilei




[Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3

2000-10-07 Thread Salane

does anyone have instructions on how to get quake2 working in mandrake 
7.2b3? I an having trouble getting it to start. i am using instructions 
in linuxquake howto with demo quake

added packfile  ./baseq2/pak2.pak  (2 files)
couldn't exec default.cfg
couldn't exec config.cfg
Console initialized.

sound initialization 
sound sampleing rate: 11025
-
---Loading ref_softx.so-
recursive shutdown
Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx





Sv: [Cooker] Mandrake's look feel

2000-10-07 Thread Zeljko Vukman

I appologize to Mandrakes, I was in very bad mood. I downloaded
aproximately 3 Gb KDE2 (when I count all downloads of KDE2 beta)
and then with kdebase-1.99-10mdk everything went wrong. After login
kicker crushed, and kcontrol crushed, and there were missing items in
start menu (there was only application item) etc. etc. So, I got pissed off,
and threw all my negative energy on innocent Mandrakes. I am sorry guys.
Your icons and splash screens are the most beautiful in the world.
And now, everything is OK again (I mean Kde2). Kpackage works, konqueror
works, kcontrol works (sometimes segfoults when I exit it). 
Menu-edit is replaced by menudrake, but this beautiful thing doesn't work. It
doesn't crushes, there isn't an error message, it starts, but when I change icons
and save changes it doesn't applies them to menu. I use menudrake-0.2-2mdk.

Regards,


- Original Message - 
From: Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake's look  feel


 Zeljko Vukman wrote:
 
 I can't comment on the icons and splash-screens as I don't work for Mandrake.
 
  BTW, menu-drake doesn't work, and menu-edit doesn't work.
 
 More detail would be useful. They don't start? Crash out? Is there an error
 message?
 
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 opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.
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Re: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3

2000-10-07 Thread Khawar Zia

hey,

It seems you are missing your default config files. re-copy the quake2
baseq2 directory and try again.

--Khawar Zia
- Original Message -
From: "Salane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "cooker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 8:33 AM
Subject: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3


 does anyone have instructions on how to get quake2 working in mandrake
 7.2b3? I an having trouble getting it to start. i am using instructions
 in linuxquake howto with demo quake

 added packfile  ./baseq2/pak2.pak  (2 files)
 couldn't exec default.cfg
 couldn't exec config.cfg
 Console initialized.

 sound initialization 
 sound sampleing rate: 11025
 -
 ---Loading ref_softx.so-
 recursive shutdown
 Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx







Re: Sv: [Cooker] Mandrake's look feel

2000-10-07 Thread Leon Brooks

Zeljko Vukman wrote:
 Leon Brooks wrote:
 More detail would be useful. They don't start? Crash out? Is there an error
 message?

 Menu-edit is replaced by menudrake, but this beautiful thing doesn't work. It
 doesn't crushes, there isn't an error message, it starts, but when I change icons
 and save changes it doesn't applies them to menu. I use menudrake-0.2-2mdk.

Much more helpful, thank you. (-:

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Re: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3

2000-10-07 Thread Dan Geer

Make sure your permissions are set correctly (e.g., root)
- Original Message - 
From: "Salane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "cooker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:33 AM
Subject: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3


 does anyone have instructions on how to get quake2 working in mandrake 
 7.2b3? I an having trouble getting it to start. i am using instructions 
 in linuxquake howto with demo quake
 
 added packfile  ./baseq2/pak2.pak  (2 files)
 couldn't exec default.cfg
 couldn't exec config.cfg
 Console initialized.
 
 sound initialization 
 sound sampleing rate: 11025
 -
 ---Loading ref_softx.so-
 recursive shutdown
 Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
 
 





Re: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3

2000-10-07 Thread salane

was in root


Dan Geer wrote:
 
 Make sure your permissions are set correctly (e.g., root)
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Salane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "cooker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:33 AM
 Subject: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3
 
 
  does anyone have instructions on how to get quake2 working in mandrake 
  7.2b3? I an having trouble getting it to start. i am using instructions 
  in linuxquake howto with demo quake
  
  added packfile  ./baseq2/pak2.pak  (2 files)
  couldn't exec default.cfg
  couldn't exec config.cfg
  Console initialized.
  
  sound initialization 
  sound sampleing rate: 11025
  -
  ---Loading ref_softx.so-
  recursive shutdown
  Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
  
  
 
 
 
 
 






Re: [Cooker] About a good editor for java .......

2000-10-07 Thread Guillaume Rousse

Also sprach david jenkins :
 
 I've found that Borland JBuilder Foundation works very well for this,
 and it's also free... you just have to register on their site
It is not Free ! It is just downloadable without any cost !
Moreover, their "foundation version" has just very basic function
available, while everything else is listed but unusable : you have to
buy the commercial vision.
And lastly, is is not just an editor, but a full IDE, so maybe not
adapted to initial demand.
If it is not the cas, NetBeans is now opensourced and fully
Unix-compliant (cvs-compatible, another external ediotr can be used,
etc...). See http://www.netbeans.org

 --- Meir Faraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi
I  wana know if there is any  of thee editor that have color for
  java  and
  could write end of line by default as CR/LF .
  it will be simpliere for me than use always as I work with programer
  that
  work under the dark side os (Micro$oft windarka os) ;-)
  I've saw Xemacs have cool colors but(I doesn't found this option
  on it)
 
 
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Re: [Cooker] XFree bug

2000-10-07 Thread Ed Wilts

On Fri, 06 Oct 2000, Francois Pons wrote:
 Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  The XFree on the beta 3 CD contains a bug in configuring the SiS 6326
  card. It's set for no_accel, when in fact acceleration has been supported
  since XFree 4.0 first came out.  I reported this a long time ago, but it
  apparently did not get fixed.  When I corrupted my system earlier this
  week and was forced to re-install, I used the beta 3 CD to start with,
  and then upgraded to the latest cooker packages from there.
 
  The fix is simple - simply comment out the no_accel line, but until
  that's done, performance is horrible.

 Do you have a lot of other line around this one already commented out ?

No.  The ONLY change I made was to comment out the no_accel line.  I left the 
sw_cursor line in (which seems to be required for my particular card).  I've 
got a Diamond Speedstar A50.

 Can you send me your output of lspcidrake ?

[root@linux1 init.d]# lspcidrake
 VIA Technologies|VT82C597 [Apollo VP3] (unknown ignore)
 VIA Technologies|VT82C598 [Apollo MVP3 AGP] (unknown ignore)
 VIA Technologies|VT82C586/A/B PCI-to-ISA [Apollo VP] (unknown ignore)
 VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] (STORAGE_IDE ignore)
 VIA Technologies|VT82C586B ACPI (unknown ignore)
 Realtek|RTL-8029(AS) (NETWORK_ETHERNET ne2k-pci)
 Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]|86C326 (DISPLAY_VGA Card:SiS 6326) 
SubVendor=0x1092 SubDevice=0x0a50 
   
If you read /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/README.SiS, you'll see that hardware 
acceleration is supported.  

Without acceleration turned on, my card is painful to use.  Dragging a window 
is slugglish and jerky.

Cheers,
.../Ed
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[Cooker] Problem with updating mandrake_desk-7.2-16mdk.noarch.rpm

2000-10-07 Thread Christian Wahlgren

Hi

I try to upgrade mandrake_desk-7.2-16mdk.noarch.rpm from MandrakeUpdate on
my beta3 and now does some intensive disk access for over 2.5 hours (PII
400) - the system is almost freezed, only the mouse can be moved from time
to time, the clock in the corner has freezed, no keyboard response
whatsoever. I had mandrake_desk-7.2-6mdk.noarch.rpm before.

Should it take so long? What can have happened? I can't do anything with the
keyboard. Shall I do a hard reset?

/Christian






Re: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3

2000-10-07 Thread Warren Doney

salane wrote:
 
 was in root
 
 Dan Geer wrote:
 
  Make sure your permissions are set correctly (e.g., root)
  - Original Message -
  From: "Salane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: "cooker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:33 AM
  Subject: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3
 
 
   does anyone have instructions on how to get quake2 working in mandrake
   7.2b3? I an having trouble getting it to start. i am using instructions
   in linuxquake howto with demo quake
  
   added packfile  ./baseq2/pak2.pak  (2 files)
   couldn't exec default.cfg
   couldn't exec config.cfg
   Console initialized.
  
   sound initialization 
   sound sampleing rate: 11025
   -
   ---Loading ref_softx.so-
   recursive shutdown
   Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx

Hmm - I was playing with quake this afternoon  found I had to cd to
/usr/local/games/quake to start it, rather than run it from /~, maybe
QII works the same way

http://linuxquake.com/howto/

http://www.planetquake.com/linux/quake2.html

might help too.




[Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] lyx-1.1.5-4mdk

2000-10-07 Thread Alexander Skwar

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 04:31:16PM +0200, Daouda Lo wrote:
 --=-=-=
 Name: lyx  Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Version : 1.1.5 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
 Release : 4mdk  Build Date: Sat Oct  7 14:49:43 2000
 URL : http:/www.lyx.org/

Just noticed because I wanted to go there, that is http://www.lyx.org, with
2 slashes, not one.

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Re: [Cooker] Still want to use gcc-2.95.2-7mdk

2000-10-07 Thread Vox


During the bombing raid of Sat, 7 Oct 2000 13:26:13 +0200, somebody heard
Jan Niehusmann mumble in fear:

 On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 05:34:35PM +0800, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
   hackgcc is only in contribs. Once upon a time, Chmouel put it in for main
   but it was too unstable so we reverted to 2.95.
  
  While I prefer 2.95, too, I wonder if this has consequences on binary 
  compatibility. As far as I know, C code is not a problem, but C++ code
  may be incompatible between different compiler releases.
  
  So, a binary released for redhat 7 may not work on mandrake, if it contains
  C++ code and is linked against shared C++ libraries.
  
  Does anyone know if this problem really exists or if 2.95 and 2.96 are
  compatible in this regard?

The official word from the GCC group is...RedHat messed up by
using 2.96.  There's no binary compatibility with 2.95 *and* there's no
binary compatibility with the following releases either...so..RH7's stuff
doesn't work for nobody but RH7 (unless it's pure C or Fortran [I'm not
sure on this last one...memory is foggy so late at night]) What really
worries me about any thoughts of mdk going to 2.96 is the *no forward
compatibility" part...please, let's stick to 2.95 and wait for official
3.0 :)

BTW, the info comes from
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-announce/2000/msg3.html which was linked to
from /. today/yesterday (friday eve)

Arioshi ba

Vox, who has scratched RH from his it-may-be-used list at work
and home.

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[Cooker] Why no sound config in setup?

2000-10-07 Thread Jason Straight

I just wondered why sound isn't setup at setup time?

7.2 install just rocked with perfect detection of my voodoo3 card in one
machine TNT2 in another, installed accellerated X4 or X3 for the right
card, my HP 812C printer detected and installed perfectly, of course my
network card ran perfectly, modem was nice. But why not setup sound
during setup and have totally configured/installed system hardware on
boot?

The only hardware I have that didn't activate and setup during install
is of course my PCMCIA Orinoco wavelan card for my wireless network,
because it requires drivers from wavelan.com to be compiled into
pcmcia-cs.

Just curious why most distro's who have nice setups all seem to skip
sound?


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[Cooker] Latest KDE2 :(

2000-10-07 Thread John C. Reddersen

I rsync'ed (using Ron's no_rsync.pl) last night and installed all the new stuff
(I'm running Cooker) and boy did KDE2 take a step backwards in the latest
release.  Sorry I can't give the version, but I'm runinng in Win98 at the
moment.

Stuff that did work, but now doesn't:
In the panel, half the beautiful new icons from the previous relase (Konqueror,
etc..) are now gears and don't work, saying the applink they point to doesn't
exist.
Konqueror seems to have some serious caching issues.  Especially on Yahoo Mail,
stuff I've deleted shows up as a followed link, but if I click on it I go
nowhere.
The spinning gear in Konqueror doesn't spin, so it's hard to tell if any click
really worked until the page loads...
"Line up icons" in the Desktop Menu, doesn't...

That's all I can remember at the moment..

-John Reddersen

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] gimp-1.1.25-12mdk

2000-10-07 Thread root

Don Head wrote:
 
  Where can I download your updates (I got your
  anouncement-email  5 hours ago )?
  Which time do you need to get the primary
  mirror (sunsite.uio.no) in sync ?
  What is the best time to get a complete mirror
  of Mandrake/RPMS (without missing a bunch of
  rpm's)?
 
 I've scrolled through the changelog list, and
 most development seems to stop after 8PM Central
 time.  Each of the mirrors updates on a different
 schedule, but I would guess/hope that by 2am or
 3am Central time, they'd be complete.  Check the
 list of mirrors at:
 http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3
 
 Don Head [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Linux Mentor, LCA, Network+   [1 314 692-1942]
 Wave Technologies, Inc. [1 800 826-4640 x1942]
 [AIM - Don Wave][ICQ - 18804935][Yahoo - Don_Wave]

It doesn't matter which mirror you use the .rpm's won't install
(kpackage was fixed HaHaHa)
and rpm -Uvh filename.i586.rpm FAILS ALSO, don't try to upgrade to memu
2.1.5 as it will completely f*uckup your system. even rpm Uvh --nodeps
filename.i586.rpm doesn't work most of the time.

mikey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum

2000-10-07 Thread root

Tom Brinkman wrote:
 
  Honda civics are for people who can't use 1970 Chevy's with 454
  big blocks, blowers and keep dual Carbs tuned.
 
'69 396 CI Chevelles were a LOT faster  ;)
Folks, I believe y'all under estimate the audience. I know the
 feelin.  I just mailed off my 7.1 CD's this mornin to an Internet
 friend (I know him from a private NASCAR mailing list).
A little about my own situation tho.  I've been runnin Linux for
 a little over 3 years.  I'm still newbie status tho.  I've had a
 serious brain disease (cp-MS) for almost 10 years that makes it very
 difficult to concentrate and/or retain information.  Linux is my
 therapy, ie, 'use it or loose it'.
 My point is, there's a million reasons besides wanting a
 non-Billy desktop, for new users to be drawn to Linux.  For me, it
 not functionality that's utmost, I like the challenge.  There's some
 rebel in me also.
 --
 Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

Gee man...haven't you noticed that 7.2beta3 looks and acts and sounds
more like wintendo more and more everyday! except when Microsoft
releases an upgrade it works.

mikey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





[Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] bluefish-0.5-6mdk

2000-10-07 Thread Alexander Skwar

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:45:00PM +0200, Daouda Lo wrote:
 --=-=-=
 Name: bluefish Relocations: (not relocateable)
 Group   : Networking/WWWSource RPM: (none)
 Summary : A WYSIWYG GPLized HTML editor

Again:  I don't think that this is the right Group for such a tool. 
bluefish is an editor, that's it.  It doesn't have that much to do with
Networking or the WWW in particular.  Just because you may create web pages
with it, doesn't mean IMO that it should be put in this group.  Or would you
put vim, xemacs, kedit also there?  You should, as you can create web
pages with it...

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] gimp-1.1.25-12mdk

2000-10-07 Thread Antony Suter

root wrote:
 
 It doesn't matter which mirror you use the .rpm's won't install
 (kpackage was fixed HaHaHa)
 and rpm -Uvh filename.i586.rpm FAILS ALSO, don't try to upgrade to memu
 2.1.5 as it will completely f*uckup your system. even rpm Uvh --nodeps
 filename.i586.rpm doesn't work most of the time.
 
 mikey
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What are you taling about? I run "rpm -Uvh ..." 20 times a day and it works
every time. I have menu-2.1.5-35mdk installed and it works great.

There would have to be something massively wrong with your system for it do
what your saying it does.

--
- Antony Suter  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  "Examiner"  openpgp:71ADFC87
- "And how do you store the nuclear equivalent of the universal solvent?"




Re: [Cooker] Latest KDE2 :(

2000-10-07 Thread Alexander Skwar

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 08:39:52AM -0700, John C. Reddersen wrote:
 Stuff that did work, but now doesn't:
 In the panel, half the beautiful new icons from the previous relase (Konqueror,
 etc..) are now gears and don't work, saying the applink they point to doesn't
 exist.

You also installed mandrake_desk?  You should, because with an old version
you'll get exactly this behaviour.

 Konqueror seems to have some serious caching issues.  Especially on Yahoo Mail,
 stuff I've deleted shows up as a followed link, but if I click on it I go
 nowhere.

Don#t know, I do not use Konqueror that much.  Don't really like KDE...

 The spinning gear in Konqueror doesn't spin, so it's hard to tell if any click
 really worked until the page loads...

Well, here it does!

kdebase-13mdk

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum

2000-10-07 Thread Michael Powell

Warren Doney wrote:
 
 Graham Percival wrote:
 
  Millions of electrons died to bring me this message.  Was it worth it,
   Warren Doney?
   This is a good idea, things that seem simple to us can baffle
   beginners. I recall, for instance, when asked to "specify the mount
   point of the root partition" I repeatedly tried "root" instead of
   "/" :o)
 
  Isn't that what "auto allocate" is for?
 
 Yes, but 6.1 didn't have it ~1yr ago - that was just a general
 example.
 
 []
 
  Apart from hardware support and partitioning, what
  newbie-unfriendliness is there?
 
 The point of asking people who have never tried installing it is to
 find out if there's something that has been missed
 
 -WBD

Electrons don't DIE or MOVE!





Re: [Cooker] Why no sound config in setup?

2000-10-07 Thread Pixel

Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 network card ran perfectly, modem was nice. But why not setup sound
 during setup and have totally configured/installed system hardware on
 boot?

if it's a isa card, use harddrake

if it's a pci card, it should be ok, otherwise please give the output of
lspcidrake (or /proc/bus/pci/devices)

thanks, cu Pixel.




Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum

2000-10-07 Thread Michael Powell

Alexander Skwar wrote:
 
 On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 03:08:17PM -0700, Graham Percival wrote:
  If somebody really wants to get away from MS, it's possible.  They might have
  to spend a week learning that you only need to single-click in KDE instead of
  double-click, but anybody who seriously tries can do it.
 
 Or to find the switch that turns of this annoying behaviour.  Besides even
 in Windows 98 you can just do a single click.
 
 Alexander Skwar
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And your point? 

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[Cooker] Netscapes dependencies

2000-10-07 Thread Alexander Skwar

Hi!

Why does Netscape 4.75-8mdk require XFree86 = 4.0 ?

Alexander Skwar
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[Cooker] MandrakeUpdate/grpmi problems

2000-10-07 Thread Brian J. Murrell

I have the latest grpmi and MandrakeUpdate installed but am seeing a
couple of weird issues.

First of all, I have seen in the recent changelog for MandrakeUpdate
that userhelper is supposed to be used instead of kdesu.  Mine still
brings up kdesu.  Any idea why?

Second, MandrakeUpdate/grpmi doesn't deal properly with files in
/var/cache/grpmi.  If the RPM that is going to be updated to exists
there already, grpmi assumes it was a previously aborted transfer and
tries to do an ftp "restart" on it where it left off.  That is fine. 
Actually that is good.  Good work.  The problem is that if the file is
all there, the ftp server returns no more data for it (this should be
interpreted "success") and closes the data connection properly.  Still
good.  However, grpmi at that point thinks that the retrieval failed for
some reason and prompts that there was an error.  It didn't.  It's all
there.  It should go on to the next task.

More of an RFE, it would be nice if grpmi were more friendly when it
does find problems.  The prompts it does give you don't give you much
choice.  If a conflict is found you can either Force it or Skip the
whole batch of updates.  Skipping just the current package would be
nice.  There are others but I will leave it at that for now.

b.



-- 
Brian J. Murrell  InterLinx Support Services, Inc.
North Vancouver, B.C. 604 983 UNIX
Platform and Brand Independent UNIX Support - R3.2 - R4 - BSD




[Cooker] [RPM] openuniverse-1.0beta3-1mdk

2000-10-07 Thread ASkwar

Hello!  I've uploaded this file to ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming/.  Until it appears 
at the mirrors, you can download it from 
ftp://ftp.dp.ath.cx/pub/downloads/RPMS/mandrake, or use the rpm2html database at 
http://www.dp.ath.cx/rpms

---
Name: openuniverse Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 1.0beta3  Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Sam 07 Okt 2000 16:58:33 CEST
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: 
teich.garten.digitalprojects.com
Group   : Sciences/AstronomySource RPM: (none)
Size: 4336871  License: GPL
Packager: Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL : http://www.openuniverse.org/
Summary : OpenUniverse is an OpenGL Solar System simulator
Description :
OpenUniverse is an OpenGL Solar System simulator. It will let you visit the
Sun, the nine planets and a few major satellites with four different camera
modes. Although it's not 100% accurate, planets' positions in a given date
are within a range of the real positions.

Strictly spoken it's a piece of software, simulating the Solar System's
bodies in 3D on your Windows or Linux PC (will work in most *NIX's as well).
In difference to quite a few other programs it does so in realtime. Meaning
you can view all the planets, moons and spaceships move along their paths,
trace them, follow them, orbit them and even control them (time and spaceship
contol). And you won't have to fight your way through hordes of green, slimey
and one-eyed aliens for that ;-)

OpenUniverse (OU) was formely known as Solar System Simulator (Ssystem)
(http://www1.las.es/~amil/ssystem).

---

 Fre Okt 06 2000 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.0beta3-1mdk

- First Mandrake version
- Requires glui

-- 
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum

2000-10-07 Thread Jason Straight

Oh - is a beta considered released?

Yeah, by default it looks like windows I guess, but if you look at my
windowmaker desktop you wouldn't call it windows looking. Mandrake gives
windows look and feel to people who need it to make use of linux, but
linux (and a lot of it) is still there for those who know what they want
and how to get it.

I hear people complain all the time about bloat in Mandrake that it's
becoming windows - what a load of crap. It all comes down to the same as
any other distro - it's all in how you choose to install it. I can have
nearly the same system with Mandrake as any slackware or debian, or
redhat, or turbolinux etc... It's in how I set it up.

Powerusers normally don't stick with default configuration no matter what
distro they use, we end up reconfiguring everything the way we want it in
the end.

People looking for ease of use will appreciate what Mandrakes done with
install and KDE2, while people looking for old fashion linux power know
how to get it out of Mandrake anyway.





root wrote:

 Tom Brinkman wrote:
 
   Honda civics are for people who can't use 1970 Chevy's with 454
   big blocks, blowers and keep dual Carbs tuned.
 
 '69 396 CI Chevelles were a LOT faster  ;)
 Folks, I believe y'all under estimate the audience. I know the
  feelin.  I just mailed off my 7.1 CD's this mornin to an Internet
  friend (I know him from a private NASCAR mailing list).
 A little about my own situation tho.  I've been runnin Linux for
  a little over 3 years.  I'm still newbie status tho.  I've had a
  serious brain disease (cp-MS) for almost 10 years that makes it very
  difficult to concentrate and/or retain information.  Linux is my
  therapy, ie, 'use it or loose it'.
  My point is, there's a million reasons besides wanting a
  non-Billy desktop, for new users to be drawn to Linux.  For me, it
  not functionality that's utmost, I like the challenge.  There's some
  rebel in me also.
  --
  Tom Brinkman[EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay

 Gee man...haven't you noticed that 7.2beta3 looks and acts and sounds
 more like wintendo more and more everyday! except when Microsoft
 releases an upgrade it works.

 mikey
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

--
The road to Microsoft is paved with [others] good intentions.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ 1796276







Re: [Cooker] How to replace Stock Mandrake Kernel With Custom KernelAfter Install

2000-10-07 Thread Craig Van Degrift

Nigel,

 Next, I ran /sbin/lilo and gota warning: 'scd1 is not the first hard
 disk on the system'.

This seems to me like your lilo.conf specified boot=/dev/scd1, a SCSI CD-ROM
drive.  If it is your first SCSI hard disk, it should be /dev/sda for lilo to
put the boot stuff in the MBR of the first SCSI disk.

By the way, check out man mkinitrd for handling modules that are needed at boot.

Craig Van Degrift

On Fri, 06 Oct 2000, Nigel Webber wrote:
 Hi
 
 I have installed Mandrake using a custom kernel, install went fine, but how the
 heck to
 I replace the custom kernel with my kernel so I can boot from my otherwise
 unsupported SCSI
 controller??
 
 I had hoped that I could get to a console post install, mount the floppy and
 copy the new kernel
 over the old one - but nope, not possible.
 
 So here's how I did it:
 
 Install an IDE drive (borrowed from work)
 Boot Win2K, copy Mandrake CD's to partition on IDE drive
 Make boot disk from hd.img
 boot, and install to IDE drive using install files from IDE drive.
 Set IDE drive as the master
 Boot Linux
 Patch Stock Kernel, config and install.
 Reboot from IDE drive (now finds SCSI devices)
 Mount /boot on scsi drive
 Copy new kernel (from IDE drive) over kernel on scsi drive
 Switch off, disconnect IDE drive, set SCSI as master.
 Boot linux from SCSI drive (loads of module errors) - but at least it boots...
 
 There must be an easier way??? I thought of a mini distro on a floppy, but I
 cant
 compile the kernel with this?
 
 -
 
 Next, I recompiled the kernel on the SCSI drive, adding the SCSI patch for my
 hardware. Made and installed the modules, and new kernel and editited
 /etc/lilo.conf to add an entry for my new kernel. Next, I ran /sbin/lilo and got
 a warning: 'scd1 is not the first hard disk on the system'.
 
 I rebooted anyway, and now I get LI, but no LO meaning that it cant execute the
 second stage boot loader
 Anyone.
 
 Basically I am back to square 1... Why would lilo say that the HD it was
 installing to was not the first HD in the system when it is the **ONLY** HD in
 the system??
 
 It seems that it was close to working, but then one little /sbin/lilo has
 buggered it up again... I am about ready to give up now, and go any buy an IDE
 drive... but having seen the difference in Kernel compile time (30% quicker with
 my SCSI drive for the same config), I would rather get the SCSI solution
 working.
 
 Regards
 
 Nigel




Re: [Cooker] Why no sound config in setup?

2000-10-07 Thread Jason Straight

No, that's not what I mean - I can setup my soundcard fine. I just wonder
why it's the only common hardware that's not setup during install?

When my systems done installing the only thing that I have to configure is
my soundcard.




Pixel wrote:

 Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  network card ran perfectly, modem was nice. But why not setup sound
  during setup and have totally configured/installed system hardware on
  boot?

 if it's a isa card, use harddrake

 if it's a pci card, it should be ok, otherwise please give the output of
 lspcidrake (or /proc/bus/pci/devices)

 thanks, cu Pixel.

--
The road to Microsoft is paved with [others] good intentions.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ 1796276







Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum

2000-10-07 Thread Hoyt


- Original Message -
From: "Michael Powell" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum


 Warren Doney wrote:
 
  Graham Percival wrote:
  
   Millions of electrons died to bring me this message.  Was it worth it,
Warren Doney?

 Electrons don't DIE or MOVE!



AFAIK, they do under the concept of "humor". 8)

Hoyt





Re: [Cooker] How to replace Stock Mandrake Kernel With Custom Kernel After Install

2000-10-07 Thread frank

On Fri, 06 Oct 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Next, I recompiled the kernel on the SCSI drive, adding the SCSI patch for
 my hardware. Made and installed the modules, and new kernel and editited
 /etc/lilo.conf to add an entry for my new kernel. Next, I ran /sbin/lilo
 and got a warning: 'scd1 is not the first hard disk on the system'.

 I rebooted anyway, and now I get LI, but no LO meaning that it cant execute
 the second stage boot loader
 Anyone.

 Basically I am back to square 1... Why would lilo say that the HD it was
 installing to was not the first HD in the system when it is the **ONLY** HD
 in the system??

perhaps if you used grub rather than lilo, your problem would be solved, as 
grub gives you a bit of command line editing at boot...you could set up an 
alternate menu.lst file in /boot/grub and then select it at boot when you are 
ready to boot your new kernel...

frank
---




Re: [Cooker] 7.2b3 and KDE Kcontrol

2000-10-07 Thread Meir Faraj

On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 Installed 7.2b3 on an Abit BP6 W/2xIntelCeleron 366. Really looking
 good. Have noticed one problem so far:

 The Icon on the tool bar for the Kcontrol center would not open. A look
 at the proprieties showed the "Execute" was indicated as "kcontrol "%c"
 which gave a SIGfault and the center would not open. Removing the "%c"
 corrected the problem. Clicking on the Icon will now correctly open
 kcontrol.

 Thks

 Larry
Thanks a lot I've seen this problem and now it's work on my computer .
they need to corect this ..if they not already done ;-)




Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum

2000-10-07 Thread Giuseppe Ghibo'

Jason Straight wrote:

 
 Just like the hot-rod isn't for the average driver linux shouldn't
 necesarilly be for the average computer user. If it works out that way
 through evolution fine, but I don't think we should push it and change
 focus from what brought linux where it's at now. Amiga died trying to be
 something other than what made it popular.

Amiga "died" for several other reasons, mainly because it hasn't
good administration under Commodore (remember Medhi Ali?), and the ability to put out
tech hardware upgrades when needed and requested by the crowd (it passed a lot of time 
to have AGA chispet,
and when they were available they were outdated, AAA+ never even had light) and many 
other flops of the architecture
(remember CDTV and CD32?).
Furthermore also who taken out the Amiga from the market was the CPU and GFX hardware: 
latest Amiga 4000 were
with 68040 at 25Mhz, which more or less had the CPU power of the 486/33
[but the Amiga 4000 was far superior than a 486/33 compatible with Windoze 3.1]
But when 486 DX2/DX3/DX4 and Pentium were available at lower price, it was hard to 
push new user to buy
for more price an old hardware, although the OS was still superior. Many other
"power" Amiga user (tons of 3D raytracers) passed to intel arch due to faster 
rendering time.
A1200 was good sell, but not as A500 of "good old days". 68060 cards at 50Mhz were 
available as 
accelerated card by 3rd party, some years after the Commodore bakrupcy (too late) and 
were also
difficult to obtain. Ditto for PPC card from Phase 5 later,
Also the Motorola no longer developed the 680X0 architecture and that was partially 
the start of
the end of the Amiga (Apple did the jump to PowerPC and it is still alive, although if 
it wasn't for
the coloured iMAC [seems like what did the Swiss company Swatch], also Apple would 
have probably closed,
1 or 2 years ago, but that's another story...).
Who taken the Amiga later (remember ESCOM), didn't had clear their minds too, and 
wasted
a lot of time trying to deciding what to do exactly with the Amiga. Not much time later
ESCOM (#2 PC vendor in Europe) bankrupcy too, and the Amiga passed to Gateway 2000 (1 
another year
to know who should take the Amiga Inc. from ESCOM [remember VISCORP story?]).
Two years to decide to choose QNX as next microkernel and PPC as CPU. Then after 
decided and make the announce with QNX,
they fired the heads of the Amiga Inc. (Jim Collas) and announced to switch to a Linux 
modified
kernel as kernel for next Amiga architecture, based on Transmeta as main CPU, ATI for 
video
card, etc. 1 other year of NOTHING (ah no, a new 680x0 OS release for old machine, 
thanks to HaagePartners),
and Gateway 2000 sells what remained of the Amiga Inc. to some private buyers. Now the 
new Amiga
group announced the SDK of what could become "the new Amiga OS" for RH, and signed the 
agreement with RedHat
too. In the meanwhile waiting for a new Amiga, the world is changed...

Bye.
Giuseppe.






[Cooker] Konqueror doesn't use corectly java when tell it to use jdk 1.3 from sun....

2000-10-07 Thread Meir Faraj

Hi ,
Konqueror doesn't use corectly java when tell it to use jdk 1.3 from sun

I've told it :

x enable java globally
x enable javascript globally

x show java console 

o automaticaly detect java   x user specified java 

path to java : /usr/java/jdk1.3/bin


the console run but not the aplets what's wrong ?




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] bluefish-0.5-6mdk

2000-10-07 Thread Daouda LO

Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:45:00PM +0200, Daouda Lo wrote:
  --=-=-=
  Name: bluefish Relocations: (not relocateable)
  Group   : Networking/WWWSource RPM: (none)
  Summary : A WYSIWYG GPLized HTML editor
 
 Again:  I don't think that this is the right Group for such a tool. 
 bluefish is an editor, 

specially designed for html editing .

that's it.  It doesn't have that much to do with
 Networking or the WWW in particular.  Just because you may create web pages
 with it, doesn't mean IMO that it should be put in this group.  Or would you
 put vim, xemacs, kedit also there?  You should, as you can create web
 pages with it...

The Networking/WWW group isn't the perfect group but we don't have a
better choice . We should perhaps create a New Group under Application 
named Specifical Editor or whatelse .
So discussion is opened...

-- 
Daouda LO   MandrakeSoft SA




RE: [Cooker] UPDATE: XFree86 4.0.2 NOT 2b released anytime soon

2000-10-07 Thread neognomic

I agree that preciseness would be an advantage, but lack thereof  IS the
nature of software releases.
I think that if Dawes had a definitive month this year he would have put
that.  I'm happy he said "this year"; aren't you?
I don't think contacting him is prudent/required.  His response to me was
courtesy - he's not really talking to me and I did not mean for my post to
be interpreted that way.  I apologize if it was.  At least he did not say
"later" or "soon" like so many others do.  IMO, Asking him for information
that he does not have will just PHO, and he may never respond to an email in
such a courteous manner again.

Have A GREAT Weekend!
 lll
???
 ~
The first time I saw "Windows for Dummies" way back in the 80's, I thought
the book printing service had dropped the "is" from the title.  Now, I'm
sure they did.

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
|Behalf Of Leon Brooks
|Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 07:14
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Subject: Re: [Cooker] UPDATE: XFree86 4.0.2 NOT 2b released anytime soon
|
|
|neognomic wrote:
| Below is copy of email Mr. Dawes was kind enough to send me.
|
| That was our plan, but it didn't work out that way.  I've changed that
| page to say "sometime in late 2000."
|
|A little more precision would be nice. (-:
|
|Does Mr Dawes have even a definite month in mind? Can you ask, since he's
|already talking to you?
|
|--
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|with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
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[Cooker] Problems with compiling OMS dvd player ....

2000-10-07 Thread Meir Faraj

Hi ,
I've downloaded from livid the oms player and all is ok but two of the 
plugins (those that display video to screen:-( ) doesn't compile with this 
error : (they need mlib's library )

yuv2rgb_mlib.c:32: mlib_types.h: No such file or directory
yuv2rgb_mlib.c:33: mlib_status.h: No such file or directory
yuv2rgb_mlib.c:34: mlib_sys.h: No such file or directory
yuv2rgb_mlib.c:35: mlib_video.h: No such file or directory
yuv2rgb_mlib.c: In function `mlib_YUV2ARGB420_32':
yuv2rgb_mlib.c:43: warning: implicit declaration of function 
`mlib_VideoColorYUV2ARGB420'
yuv2rgb_mlib.c: In function `mlib_YUV2ABGR420_32':
yuv2rgb_mlib.c:53: warning: implicit declaration of function 
`mlib_VideoColorYUV2ABGR420'
yuv2rgb_mlib.c: In function `mlib_YUV2RGB420_24':
yuv2rgb_mlib.c:63: warning: implicit declaration of function 
`mlib_VideoColorYUV2RGB420' 


where could I get these library since there are no present in mandrake ?




Re: [Cooker] problem with usb .

2000-10-07 Thread Meir Faraj

On Fri, 06 Oct 2000, Matt Steven wrote:
 On Thu, 05 Oct 2000, you wrote:
  I doesn't know why but eatch time I reboot :
   first time the running usb the computer doesn't respond @all and only
  the secon time is successfull any idea ?

 I have experienced it hanging up at the point where the USB modules are
 loaded in the 7.2b.  I haven't had time to figure out what the problem was,
 you can get around it by rebooting (ctrl+alt+del).  It's only happened a
 few times.

Hi ,
  exacly as u said when the usb module lanch it hangup (YOU COULDN'T REBOOT 
USING CTRL+ALT+DEL)  . and in my computer it'exactly happened 1/2 time . 
this is NOT good at all . 




[Cooker] Still about KvIRC on 7.2-beta3

2000-10-07 Thread sorcla

Hi again people!  ;)
Well, finally KvIRC (kvirc-2.0.0-1.99-2mdk) starts without a "segmentation
fault", but indeed it's not very usable because the rpm's-install script does
not create the directory /usr/share/kvirc which contains many files, expecially
the icons. It seems to work fine if I copy the tree /usr/share/kvirc installed
by kvirc-2.0.0-1mdk.i586.rpm once I installed the new kvirc-2.0.0-1.99... I
hope I've explained the situetion quite clearly!  =:-)
Indeed it's still not very stable: it sometimes crashes with something like

kvirc: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkvilib.so.2:
undefined symbol: contains__C5QRectRC6QPointb

Maybe it's always a qt2 related problem?!?

See ya!
Claudio




Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum

2000-10-07 Thread junfan

I know - I was hinting more along the lines of what started the majority of 
Amiga's money problems, besides Ali putting 9 bills in hit pocket every year 
while the company suffered. ;)




On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 Jason Straight wrote:
  Just like the hot-rod isn't for the average driver linux shouldn't
  necesarilly be for the average computer user. If it works out that way
  through evolution fine, but I don't think we should push it and change
  focus from what brought linux where it's at now. Amiga died trying to be
  something other than what made it popular.

 Amiga "died" for several other reasons, mainly because it hasn't
 good administration under Commodore (remember Medhi Ali?), and the ability
 to put out tech hardware upgrades when needed and requested by the crowd
 (it passed a lot of time to have AGA chispet, and when they were available
 they were outdated, AAA+ never even had light) and many other flops of the
 architecture (remember CDTV and CD32?).
 Furthermore also who taken out the Amiga from the market was the CPU and
 GFX hardware: latest Amiga 4000 were with 68040 at 25Mhz, which more or
 less had the CPU power of the 486/33 [but the Amiga 4000 was far superior
 than a 486/33 compatible with Windoze 3.1] But when 486 DX2/DX3/DX4 and
 Pentium were available at lower price, it was hard to push new user to buy
 for more price an old hardware, although the OS was still superior. Many
 other "power" Amiga user (tons of 3D raytracers) passed to intel arch due
 to faster rendering time. A1200 was good sell, but not as A500 of "good old
 days". 68060 cards at 50Mhz were available as accelerated card by 3rd
 party, some years after the Commodore bakrupcy (too late) and were also
 difficult to obtain. Ditto for PPC card from Phase 5 later,
 Also the Motorola no longer developed the 680X0 architecture and that was
 partially the start of the end of the Amiga (Apple did the jump to PowerPC
 and it is still alive, although if it wasn't for the coloured iMAC [seems
 like what did the Swiss company Swatch], also Apple would have probably
 closed, 1 or 2 years ago, but that's another story...).
 Who taken the Amiga later (remember ESCOM), didn't had clear their minds
 too, and wasted a lot of time trying to deciding what to do exactly with
 the Amiga. Not much time later ESCOM (#2 PC vendor in Europe) bankrupcy
 too, and the Amiga passed to Gateway 2000 (1 another year to know who
 should take the Amiga Inc. from ESCOM [remember VISCORP story?]). Two years
 to decide to choose QNX as next microkernel and PPC as CPU. Then after
 decided and make the announce with QNX, they fired the heads of the Amiga
 Inc. (Jim Collas) and announced to switch to a Linux modified kernel as
 kernel for next Amiga architecture, based on Transmeta as main CPU, ATI for
 video card, etc. 1 other year of NOTHING (ah no, a new 680x0 OS release for
 old machine, thanks to HaagePartners), and Gateway 2000 sells what
 remained of the Amiga Inc. to some private buyers. Now the new Amiga group
 announced the SDK of what could become "the new Amiga OS" for RH, and
 signed the agreement with RedHat too. In the meanwhile waiting for a new
 Amiga, the world is changed...

 Bye.
 Giuseppe.




[Cooker] Aurora, rc.sysinit Matrox Millennium 8MB

2000-10-07 Thread Craig Van Degrift

This appears to be a bug, although I can't understand why everyone doesn't
get stopped by it:

When I boot, Aurora shows a menu on the left side and then stops
with no way to interact with it.  Looking at the output on console 12 indicates
that it started Aurora before root was remounted as rw.  It finally stops when
trying to start the system logger.

My Matrox Millennium system supports frame buffering (/proc/fb is present
and contains "0 MATROX VGA"), but as I look through the /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
script, I see that the following section is starting Aurora even when root has
not yet been remounted rw:

Snippet from /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit (commented if was added by me to work around
the problem and get booted): 

# If the partition where Monitor resides is mounted, we are able to
# start Aurora at this point. Otherwise, we'l have to wait until it is
# mounted...
if [ -n "$aurora" ] ; then
#  if [ "$(grep -s /root\\\  /proc/mounts | grep -c \\\ rw\\\  )" == "1" ] ; then
   aurora_start
#  fi
fi

Is this problem related to the inability of the system to automatically figure
out that I have 8 MB of VRAM on my Matrox card instead of 4 MB?

The output on terminal 1 finishes with the lines:


Mounting proc filesystem...
Setting default font...
Booting Aurora...


The output on terminal 12 is the following:

Init: Entering run level: 5
/etc/rc.d/rc: /var/run/runlevel.dir: Read-only file system
Loading Harddrake
.
more expressions of unhappiness at the root filesystem being unreadable
.
Mounting other filesystems
Starting system logger:

Any ideas?

Craig Van Degrift




[Cooker] Why the smpeg plugin of xmms doesn't ......

2000-10-07 Thread Meir Faraj

Hi ,
I've downloaded the latest xmms from the mirror but when I put always on top 
for the player is ok but not for the plugins .




[Cooker] yay all packages are now signed

2000-10-07 Thread Antony Suter


Woot! All .rpm files in cooker and contrib are now GPG signed!
How about the source .rpm files? Can they also be signed?

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- "And how do you store the nuclear equivalent of the universal solvent?"




Re: [Cooker] kde-1.99, something better something wrong... KVIRC: seg_fault

2000-10-07 Thread SHadowX

On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 Claudio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Hi All!   ;)
  Well I installed kde-1.99 on 7.2 beta 3...
  It finally happen that aktion can open some files with no crash!
  On the other side, all I obtain lunching KvIRC-1.99 is the **usual**
  segmentation fault. Still I may not compile kvirc from srpm or from
  .tar.gz so I guess it's a qt2-problem...

 this pb is fixed ! upgrade to kvirc-2.0.0-1.99.2mdk.i586.rpm
I belive Kvirc was compiled wrong, I tried a few configurations and the only 
one that works for me was a compile without all the optimisations and kde2 
support. Any of those options turned on resulted in a segfault with not much 
info about what is wrong so the only thing I could recommend is to compile 
Kvirc from the original src tgz with no additional options to the configure 
script. I belive it is a problem in the kvirc code, making it uncompatible 
with qt 2.2.x.

SHadowX




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] bluefish-0.5-6mdk

2000-10-07 Thread Reinhard Katzmann

Hi Daouda!

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 08:21:56PM +0200, Daouda LO wrote:
 Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:45:00PM +0200, Daouda Lo wrote:
   --=-=-=
   Name: bluefish Relocations: (not relocateable)
   Group   : Networking/WWWSource RPM: (none)
   Summary : A WYSIWYG GPLized HTML editor
  
  Again:  I don't think that this is the right Group for such a tool. 
  bluefish is an editor, 

Hmm, my version is still:
Name: bluefish Relocations: (not relocateable)

Group   : Editors   Source RPM: bluefish-0.5-4mdk.src.rpm

But it's also more than a week old ;-)
I find that group prefectly ok!

  put vim, xemacs, kedit also there?  You should, as you can create web
  pages with it...
 
 The Networking/WWW group isn't the perfect group but we don't have a
 better choice . We should perhaps create a New Group under Application 
 named Specifical Editor or whatelse .
 So discussion is opened...

No, either it is Editors (useful as HTML files are nothing else than text
files) or it is publishing/office type of application. As the description
says it is an HTML editor, I would do it to the Editors group.

Best regards,

Reinhard Katzmann
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[Cooker] A little rsync help?

2000-10-07 Thread Nick Webb

Hi:
I wast to transfer the 7.2beta from rpmfind.net via rsync.  I
already have the directory off of rpmfind downloaded, but I wish to update
it using rsync.  I tried using this command:

rsync -av rpmfind.net:linux/MandrakeCooker/7.2beta/i586 /mylocaldir

and I get a 'unexpected EOF in read_timeout'

Any clues?

Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] A little rsync help?

2000-10-07 Thread Nick Webb

I figured it out...

rsync -av rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/

sorry. ;)

On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Nick Webb wrote:

 Hi:
   I wast to transfer the 7.2beta from rpmfind.net via rsync.  I
 already have the directory off of rpmfind downloaded, but I wish to update
 it using rsync.  I tried using this command:
 
 rsync -av rpmfind.net:linux/MandrakeCooker/7.2beta/i586 /mylocaldir
 
 and I get a 'unexpected EOF in read_timeout'
 
 Any clues?
 
 Thanks.
 
 

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Re: [Cooker] A little rsync help?

2000-10-07 Thread junfan

You may want to consider your choice of mirrors even though you are inside 
the USA. rpmfind seems to LAG behind all the others.




On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 I figured it out...

 rsync -av rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/

 sorry. ;)

 On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Nick Webb wrote:
  Hi:
  I wast to transfer the 7.2beta from rpmfind.net via rsync.  I
  already have the directory off of rpmfind downloaded, but I wish to
  update it using rsync.  I tried using this command:
 
  rsync -av rpmfind.net:linux/MandrakeCooker/7.2beta/i586 /mylocaldir
 
  and I get a 'unexpected EOF in read_timeout'
 
  Any clues?
 
  Thanks.




Re: [Cooker] A little rsync help?

2000-10-07 Thread Nick Webb

Which would you reccommend?  I've had good speed with rpmfind.net (usually
around 70K/sec over DSL), and that is why I use them.
_Nick

On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, junfan wrote:

 You may want to consider your choice of mirrors even though you are inside 
 the USA. rpmfind seems to LAG behind all the others.
 
 
 
 
 On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
  I figured it out...
 
  rsync -av rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/
 
  sorry. ;)
 
  On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Nick Webb wrote:
   Hi:
 I wast to transfer the 7.2beta from rpmfind.net via rsync.  I
   already have the directory off of rpmfind downloaded, but I wish to
   update it using rsync.  I tried using this command:
  
   rsync -av rpmfind.net:linux/MandrakeCooker/7.2beta/i586 /mylocaldir
  
   and I get a 'unexpected EOF in read_timeout'
  
   Any clues?
  
   Thanks.
 

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Re: [Cooker] A little rsync help?

2000-10-07 Thread junfan

Best bet is to experiment - I get my best speed from rpmfind too, but I 
usually go with a sunite mirror.



On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 Which would you reccommend?  I've had good speed with rpmfind.net (usually
 around 70K/sec over DSL), and that is why I use them.
 _Nick

 On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, junfan wrote:
  You may want to consider your choice of mirrors even though you are
  inside the USA. rpmfind seems to LAG behind all the others.
 
  On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
   I figured it out...
  
   rsync -av rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/
  
   sorry. ;)
  
   On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Nick Webb wrote:
Hi:
I wast to transfer the 7.2beta from rpmfind.net via rsync.  I
already have the directory off of rpmfind downloaded, but I wish to
update it using rsync.  I tried using this command:
   
rsync -av rpmfind.net:linux/MandrakeCooker/7.2beta/i586 /mylocaldir
   
and I get a 'unexpected EOF in read_timeout'
   
Any clues?
   
Thanks.




Re: [Cooker] A little rsync help?

2000-10-07 Thread Nick Webb

Where can I get an up to date list of these mirrors?  Mandrake's site only
lists two in the US: rpmfind and wtfo.

On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, junfan wrote:

 Best bet is to experiment - I get my best speed from rpmfind too, but I 
 usually go with a sunite mirror.
 
 
 
 On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
  Which would you reccommend?  I've had good speed with rpmfind.net (usually
  around 70K/sec over DSL), and that is why I use them.
  _Nick
 
  On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, junfan wrote:
   You may want to consider your choice of mirrors even though you are
   inside the USA. rpmfind seems to LAG behind all the others.
  
   On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
I figured it out...
   
rsync -av rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/
   
sorry. ;)
   
On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Nick Webb wrote:
 Hi:
   I wast to transfer the 7.2beta from rpmfind.net via rsync.  I
 already have the directory off of rpmfind downloaded, but I wish to
 update it using rsync.  I tried using this command:

 rsync -av rpmfind.net:linux/MandrakeCooker/7.2beta/i586 /mylocaldir

 and I get a 'unexpected EOF in read_timeout'

 Any clues?

 Thanks.
 

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [Cooker] A little rsync help?

2000-10-07 Thread Nick Webb

Could you also give me a command that you are using... I seem to be having
way too much trouble using rsync.  I use to use lftp's mirror command, but
I'm tired of downloading a whole package for a small change...

On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, junfan wrote:

 Best bet is to experiment - I get my best speed from rpmfind too, but I 
 usually go with a sunite mirror.
 
 
 
 On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
  Which would you reccommend?  I've had good speed with rpmfind.net (usually
  around 70K/sec over DSL), and that is why I use them.
  _Nick
 
  On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, junfan wrote:
   You may want to consider your choice of mirrors even though you are
   inside the USA. rpmfind seems to LAG behind all the others.
  
   On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
I figured it out...
   
rsync -av rsync://rpmfind.net/linux/
   
sorry. ;)
   
On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Nick Webb wrote:
 Hi:
   I wast to transfer the 7.2beta from rpmfind.net via rsync.  I
 already have the directory off of rpmfind downloaded, but I wish to
 update it using rsync.  I tried using this command:

 rsync -av rpmfind.net:linux/MandrakeCooker/7.2beta/i586 /mylocaldir

 and I get a 'unexpected EOF in read_timeout'

 Any clues?

 Thanks.
 

-- 
****
Nick Webb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





[Cooker] initscripts-5.27-37mdk conflict: kernel = 2.2?

2000-10-07 Thread Brian J. Murrell

Is this really true?  initscripts 5.27-37mdk cannot(should not) be
installed on kernels 2.2 and previous?

b.



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Re: [Cooker] Netscapes dependencies

2000-10-07 Thread OS

It doesn't, it just says it does !!! Install with --nodeps and it will probably
run ok. 75-7mdk certainly did, but I haven't tried 8mdk yet :-)

On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Why does Netscape 4.75-8mdk require XFree86 = 4.0 ?
 
 Alexander Skwar
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[Cooker] Problem with kfloppy ...

2000-10-07 Thread Meir Faraj

when I execute kloppy I got this : 
kfloppy
kfloppy: error in loading shared libraries: kfloppy: undefined symbol: 
setGroup__11KConfigBasePCc   


any idea 




[Cooker] Fwd: I found something on that Tcl/Tk 8.3.2 issue...

2000-10-07 Thread Servio T P Amarante


I found this anouncement at dejanews. Maybe it helps to solve the Tcl/Tk
8.3.2 dead keys issue. Note that the packagere is a French guy, so... I've
tried to install it, but with no success. Maybe it needs the new version of rpm.
Also, I got no aswer from the packager, until now. I will keep trying...

-- 
Sérvio Túlio Pires Amarante
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


 From: Jean-Luc Fontaine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ANNOUNCE: Tcl/Tk 8.3.2 rpms for Redhat 7.0
 Date: 06 Oct 2000 00:00:00 GMT
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 X-Accept-Language: en
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 X-Complaints-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 X-Trace: nnrp6.proxad.net 970863597 213.228.30.226 (Fri, 06 Oct 2000 22:19:57
 CEST) Organization: Guest of ProXad - France
 MIME-Version: 1.0
 NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 22:19:57 CEST
 Newsgroups: comp.lang.tcl

 Changes:

 * symbolic links to tclsh and wish were missing.

 They can be found at:

 http://jfontain.free.fr/tcl-8.3.2-3.i386.rpm
 http://jfontain.free.fr/tk-8.3.2-3.i386.rpm
 http://jfontain.free.fr/tcltk-8.3.2-3.spec

 They were generated on an up-to-date Redhat 7.0 i386 system.
 They can upgrade stock Redhat Tcl/Tk 8.3.1 rpms.

 Please report any problems in comp.lang.tcl.
 Build tests on other hardware platforms (sparc, alpha, ...) would be
 greatly appreciated...

 Have fun!

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[Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-07 Thread Ray

I want to try helix gnome under 7.2. Has anyone done this and how do you 
start it? I can't even find where to start gnome anymore.




[Cooker] suggestion for upgrade ....

2000-10-07 Thread Meir Faraj

SDL version 1.1.5 is out but with a crash but he telling that in few day it 
will release an 1.1.6 but there are already a fix in the cvs




Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-07 Thread Khawar Zia

hey,
If u want to use gnome just select gnome from the drop down menu list when
logging into linux. That is if u use graphical boot up.  I am not sure about
how to change the desktop under the console though.

--Khawar Zia
- Original Message -
From: "Ray" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:59 PM
Subject: [Cooker] helix gnome


 I want to try helix gnome under 7.2. Has anyone done this and how do you
 start it? I can't even find where to start gnome anymore.






Re: [Cooker] update-menus and 'cannot get shared lock on database' error

2000-10-07 Thread Robin Turner

Robin Turner wrote:
 

 
 I'm having what may be a similar problem - can't install the latest KDE2
 without menu-2.1.5.-35, can't update menu without the new rpm, can't
 install rpm-3.0.5-24 (even with "--force") because it conflicts with
 menu-2.1.5-29.

To answer my own question ...

Silly me - forgot the "--nodeps" argument. Over-reliance on graphical
tools can make you forget that good ole command line stuff.

Robin




[Cooker] login problem

2000-10-07 Thread Robin Turner

This is probably another dumb question, but ...

After finally successfully installing the latest KDE2 stuff, I find I
can only login from runlevel 3 - runlevel 5 gives me a "login failed"
message every time.  Presumably there is some other package I should
have upgraded, but I don't know what it is.

Robin




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] gimp-1.1.25-12mdk

2000-10-07 Thread Robin Turner

root wrote:
 
 Don Head wrote:
 
   Where can I download your updates (I got your
   anouncement-email  5 hours ago )?
   Which time do you need to get the primary
   mirror (sunsite.uio.no) in sync ?
   What is the best time to get a complete mirror
   of Mandrake/RPMS (without missing a bunch of
   rpm's)?

 
 It doesn't matter which mirror you use the .rpm's won't install
 (kpackage was fixed HaHaHa)
 and rpm -Uvh filename.i586.rpm FAILS ALSO, don't try to upgrade to memu
 2.1.5 as it will completely f*uckup your system. even rpm Uvh --nodeps
 filename.i586.rpm doesn't work most of the time.

It will work if you do rpm -e --nodeps on the old one. But use with
caution - I think this is what caused the login problem I mentioned in
another post.

Robin




Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-07 Thread Ray

well I would if it was there. There was a choice in 7.1 but not in 7.2.
All that I have is kde anf the desktops like enlightenment, blackbox,
and such... No gnome

On Sat, 07 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 hey,
 If u want to use gnome just select gnome from the drop down menu list when
 logging into linux. That is if u use graphical boot up.  I am not sure
 about how to change the desktop under the console though.

 --Khawar Zia
 - Original Message -
 From: "Ray" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:59 PM
 Subject: [Cooker] helix gnome

  I want to try helix gnome under 7.2. Has anyone done this and how do you
  start it? I can't even find where to start gnome anymore.




Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum

2000-10-07 Thread Robin Turner

root wrote:
 

 
 Gee man...haven't you noticed that 7.2beta3 looks and acts and sounds
 more like wintendo more and more everyday! except when Microsoft
 releases an upgrade it works.

The difference is that Mandrake call 7.2 "beta", rather than "2000" or
"millenium".  And when MS release an upgrade it definitely does _not_
work.  As someone responsible for a bunch of office computers - one
Linux and three Windows - I've given up totally on upgrading any of the
Windows machines.  With Linux at least I know that if I upgrade and it
screws up, I can usually figure a way round it*,and if I can't, I can
always downgrade.

Robin

* e.g. by using icewm ;-)




Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-07 Thread root

Hi
I put helix over 7.2  and had reinstall 7.1  t get machine to run gnome
agian.

ROY



Ray wrote:

 I want to try helix gnome under 7.2. Has anyone done this and how do you
 start it? I can't even find where to start gnome anymore.





Re: [Cooker] helix gnome

2000-10-07 Thread Gepper

Ray wrote:

 I want to try helix gnome under 7.2. Has anyone done this and how do you
 start it? I can't even find where to start gnome anymore.

Hello Ray.

You can start gnome by editing your .xinitrc file (located in your home
dir)
If it does exist, then comment out whatever is in there and put one single
line in there that says:
exec gnome-session
or if the file isn't there:
cd
echo "exec gnome-session"  .xinitrc
now startx

Hope this helped

/Björn





Re: [Cooker] A thought on 7.2 ad. infinitum

2000-10-07 Thread Robin Turner

Graham Percival wrote:
 
 Millions of electrons died to bring me this message.  Was it worth it,
  Warren Doney?
  This is a good idea, things that seem simple to us can baffle
  beginners. I recall, for instance, when asked to "specify the mount
  point of the root partition" I repeatedly tried "root" instead of
  "/" :o)
 
Oh nostalgia - on my first Linux install (RH 5.2) I just hit keys until
something happened.
 
 I'm a bit puzzled by all these cries for easier installs.  OK, some hardware
 is not detected automatically (be it USB printers, ISA network cards, $400
 mice, whatever).  Better hardware detection is *always* being worked on.
 Complaining that Mandrake doesn't detect card X doesn't help the situation,
 unless you provide a really detailed bug report or code to do the detection.

People who say Linux is hard to install generally have not tried
installing Windows. Having installed Windows and Linux on a few
different machines, I have found that Linux (and in particular Mandrake,
crawl, crawl) is much better at detecting hardware.

 Another big complaint is the partitioning.  But I don't think that there *is*
 an easy way to handle this, unless you assume that it's ok to wipe a HD.  But
 partitioning an existing system is going to be complicated and varies
 depending on the computer, so no automatic system will be possible.

Very true. We penguinistas suffer from having the tolerant attitude that
a user may want to install more than one OS on their computer, and so
provide helpful (if sometimes confusing) advice on the dark art of disk
partitioning. Ever tried using Windows fdisk to run multiple OS's? I
hope not.
 
 Apart from hardware support and partitioning, what newbie-unfriendliness is
 there?

None.
 
  I bet it would be easy to get volunteers for this job, as it would be
  an excellent way to meet women :)
 
 *grin*

I don't think so. At the risk of overgeneralisation, any woman who is
prepared to install Linux is also familiar with system administration,
C++ and all the the rest.

Robin




Re: [Cooker] A little rsync help?

2000-10-07 Thread Ron Stodden

Nick Webb wrote:

 I wast to transfer the 7.2beta from rpmfind.net via rsync.  I
 already have the directory off of rpmfind downloaded, but I wish to update
 it using rsync.  I tried using this command:
 
 rsync -av rpmfind.net:linux/MandrakeCooker/7.2beta/i586 /mylocaldir
 
 and I get a 'unexpected EOF in read_timeout'

Apart from the missing final /s and inadequate switches (you don't
want a, since it downloads the owner and group and all the
permissions), and the strange address (7.2beta is not a part of
Cooker - it runs in parallel) you might do better and faster by using
the popular Mandrake-devel fast downloading rsync tools downloadable
from my web page:

http://ronst.members.optushome.com.au

-- 
Regards,

Ron. [AU]




[Cooker] Switching default Window Manager?

2000-10-07 Thread Nick Webb

How do I switch the default window manager in the 7.2beta?  It is loading
Gnome from the 'startx' command and I would like WindowMaker (I hate Gnome
;).

Thanks.

-- 
****
Nick Webb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] bluefish-0.5-6mdk

2000-10-07 Thread Geoffrey Lee

Yo,

On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 06:21:14PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:45:00PM +0200, Daouda Lo wrote:
  --=-=-=
  Name: bluefish Relocations: (not relocateable)
  Group   : Networking/WWWSource RPM: (none)
  Summary : A WYSIWYG GPLized HTML editor
 
 Again:  I don't think that this is the right Group for such a tool. 
 bluefish is an editor, that's it.  It doesn't have that much to do with
 Networking or the WWW in particular.  Just because you may create web pages
 with it, doesn't mean IMO that it should be put in this group.  Or would you
 put vim, xemacs, kedit also there?  You should, as you can create web
 pages with it...



Yep you're right. Probably the "Editor" group.



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[Cooker] KDE miscompiled?

2000-10-07 Thread David Walluck

konsole: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/konsole.so: undefined
symbol: readEntry__C11KConfigBasePCcRC7QString

I'm getting these kind of errors for every KDE app (which means I can't
even start kwin). I made sure I had the latest packages and --verify'ed
they are not corrupted. What's going on?

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David Walluck
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Re: [Cooker] Switching default Window Manager?

2000-10-07 Thread Franco Silvestro

'echo WindowMaker ~/.xinitrc' 

else try see 'man chksession'

cu ...;o)

On Sun, 08 Oct 2000, Nick Webb wrote:
 How do I switch the default window manager in the 7.2beta?  It is loading
 Gnome from the 'startx' command and I would like WindowMaker (I hate Gnome
 ;).

 Thanks.

-- 
-
Franco Silvestro
c/o CeSIA - Universita' degli Studi di Bologna
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [Cooker] Re: [Frozen-CHRPM] gimp-1.1.25-12mdk

2000-10-07 Thread Tim

 It doesn't matter which mirror you use the .rpm's won't install
 (kpackage was fixed HaHaHa)
 and rpm -Uvh filename.i586.rpm FAILS ALSO, don't try to upgrade to memu
 2.1.5 as it will completely f*uckup your system. even rpm Uvh --nodeps
 filename.i586.rpm doesn't work most of the time.

 mikey
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I know linux is an open source community and we are all about hearing from
other people. But would it be so bad to quiet down this poor soul that A.
can't even change his name on his Email client; B. seems to have a "smart"
comment about anything useful appearing on this list; and C. is an
inconsiderate, mostly rude, and annoying individual. Not trying to start a
wave of censorship or any flames but simply stated: Mikey, please use a
little more common sense and a degree of maturity if you feel that you must
be on this list.


Tim McKenzie
Appalachian State Univeristy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3

2000-10-07 Thread Dan Geer

Also, make sure your quake2.conf file is in /etc.

 salane wrote:
 
  was in root
 
  Dan Geer wrote:
  
   Make sure your permissions are set correctly (e.g., root)
   - Original Message -
   From: "Salane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: "cooker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:33 AM
   Subject: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3
  
  
does anyone have instructions on how to get quake2 working in
mandrake
7.2b3? I an having trouble getting it to start. i am using
instructions
in linuxquake howto with demo quake
   
added packfile  ./baseq2/pak2.pak  (2 files)
couldn't exec default.cfg
couldn't exec config.cfg
Console initialized.
   
sound initialization 
sound sampleing rate: 11025
-
---Loading ref_softx.so-
recursive shutdown
Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx

 Hmm - I was playing with quake this afternoon  found I had to cd to
 /usr/local/games/quake to start it, rather than run it from /~, maybe
 QII works the same way

 http://linuxquake.com/howto/
 
 http://www.planetquake.com/linux/quake2.html

 might help too.






Re: [Cooker] voodoo5 and beta

2000-10-07 Thread kallador

Yo i gotz a question.
Will this version be supporting Voodoo5 
also? 

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Geer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3


 Also, make sure your quake2.conf file is in /etc.
 
  salane wrote:
  
   was in root
  
   Dan Geer wrote:
   
Make sure your permissions are set correctly (e.g., root)
- Original Message -
From: "Salane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "cooker" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 7:33 AM
Subject: [Cooker] Quake 2 in Mandrake 7.2.beta 3
   
   
 does anyone have instructions on how to get quake2 working in
 mandrake
 7.2b3? I an having trouble getting it to start. i am using
 instructions
 in linuxquake howto with demo quake

 added packfile  ./baseq2/pak2.pak  (2 files)
 couldn't exec default.cfg
 couldn't exec config.cfg
 Console initialized.

 sound initialization 
 sound sampleing rate: 11025
 -
 ---Loading ref_softx.so-
 recursive shutdown
 Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
 
  Hmm - I was playing with quake this afternoon  found I had to cd to
  /usr/local/games/quake to start it, rather than run it from /~, maybe
  QII works the same way
 
  http://linuxquake.com/howto/
  
  http://www.planetquake.com/linux/quake2.html
 
  might help too.
 
 
 





Re: [Cooker] login problem

2000-10-07 Thread William H Bouterse

Robin Turner wrote:
 
 After finally successfully installing the latest KDE2 stuff, I find I
 can only login from runlevel 3 - runlevel 5 gives me a "login failed"
 message every time.  

Me too, same problem ! Is it the new menu.rpm or ?
No matter what WM I select at the RL 5 it always "login failed"

William Bouterse
Talkeetna




[Cooker] KDE Konqueror

2000-10-07 Thread Ron Stodden

There is an error in the very latest Konqueror:

When the HTML calls to load an image from a remote URL and that site
is not accessible, Konqueror does not bother to display anything.

The problem with that is that usually these images are click points
which invoke stuff unrelated to the inaccessible site.

Konqueror should do exactly what Netscape does in this situation -
display a default image so that clicking remains possible.

-- 
Regards,

Ron. [AU]




Re: [Cooker] update-menus and 'cannot get shared lock on database' error

2000-10-07 Thread Antony Suter

Robin Turner wrote:
 
 Robin Turner wrote:
 
 
 
  I'm having what may be a similar problem - can't install the latest KDE2
  without menu-2.1.5.-35, can't update menu without the new rpm, can't
  install rpm-3.0.5-24 (even with "--force") because it conflicts with
  menu-2.1.5-29.
 
 To answer my own question ...
 
 Silly me - forgot the "--nodeps" argument. Over-reliance on graphical
 tools can make you forget that good ole command line stuff.

This isnt the correct answer. You should have downloaded all the .rpm files
necessary and then upgraded them all with the one command line.

Your solution is probably the cause for the problems youve outlined in later
posts.

 Robin Turner wrote:
 
  After finally successfully installing the latest KDE2 stuff, I find I
  can only login from runlevel 3 - runlevel 5 gives me a "login failed"
  message every time.  

 Me too, same problem ! Is it the new menu.rpm or ?
 No matter what WM I select at the RL 5 it always "login failed"

Have you upgraded to the latest pam packages? AND satisfied all of pams
dependancies?

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[Cooker] Bug: http setup

2000-10-07 Thread Hal Black

When doing the HTTP setup, when the install program goes to the http
server to retrieve the list of packages, (compssUsers) it instead
requests "compssUsers."  (with an erroneous trailing period character).




[Cooker] bug: backing up in install

2000-10-07 Thread Hal Black

Backing up from either ftp install or http install from the source
information screen to the static ip setup screen causes install to crash
when re-verifying the static IP information.
(today's 7.2beta - http extra "." bug was also today's 7.2beta)