Re: [expert] Dual processor MB ?

2001-04-09 Thread Elice Wu

I've actually got an ABit BP6 (not that I've put it to any good use yet!
bad me! but I'll be running seti@home soon! one day.)

Abit actually came out with a version of Linux that makes the most of
that board. It's called Gentus Linux... Although, I just did a search on
Google about it and it seems it's been stealing code?


my 1c
(downgraded since the australian dollar became the australian peso!)

Oleg Godeanu wrote:
> 
> Depends what are you doing with your machine ... I've got several dual PPro
> (these should run very cheap these days). Also, ABIT has a dual - Celeron
> MB - BP6. Also, a dual P3 might be OK ... If more cache is more important
> for your apps than raw MHz, try sticking to P3 <= 600. I think P3 - 600B
> were the last "regular" P3-s to host 512KB L2 Cache (at 1/2 the speed of
> the core).
> 
> Unless you want to spend really BIG bucks and get yourself Xeon MB +
> processors (don't do it if it's for fun only).
> 
> For more, check (and subscribe) Linux SMP mailing list -
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> It might still be that clustering single CPU machines would lead to better
> performance...
> 
> Oleg
> 
> On Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:44 AM, Joan Tur [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> > Hallo!
> >
> > I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (K6-3-400) and, as i'm using linux
> > 95% of my time i suppose it's better a dual processor architecture,
> > isn't it??
> >
> > If so... what MB should you suggest?  And what processor/speed ??
> >
> > Thanks  ;)
> >
> >
> > Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain
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> > Joan.Tur.pagina.de  www.ClubIbosim.org
> > Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
> >
> >
> >
> >

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RE: [expert] Dual processor MB ?

2001-04-09 Thread Oleg Godeanu

Depends what are you doing with your machine ... I've got several dual PPro 
(these should run very cheap these days). Also, ABIT has a dual - Celeron 
MB - BP6. Also, a dual P3 might be OK ... If more cache is more important 
for your apps than raw MHz, try sticking to P3 <= 600. I think P3 - 600B 
were the last "regular" P3-s to host 512KB L2 Cache (at 1/2 the speed of 
the core).

Unless you want to spend really BIG bucks and get yourself Xeon MB + 
processors (don't do it if it's for fun only).

For more, check (and subscribe) Linux SMP mailing list - 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

It might still be that clustering single CPU machines would lead to better 
performance...

Oleg

On Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:44 AM, Joan Tur [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (K6-3-400) and, as i'm using linux
> 95% of my time i suppose it's better a dual processor architecture,
> isn't it??
>
> If so... what MB should you suggest?  And what processor/speed ??
>
> Thanks  ;)
>
>
> Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ICQ 11407395
> Joan.Tur.pagina.de  www.ClubIbosim.org
> Linux: usuari registrat 190.783
>
>
>
> 




[expert] Moziilla 0.8.1 --NEW -- RH6 RPMS!

2001-04-09 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

The RH6 RPMS for Mozilla 0.8.1 have just been released. I just installed 
them. they are for the i386 build, NOT the i586 build, but they 
installed PERFECTLY, without any error messages, and Mozilla 0.8.1 is so 
far working very, very well. So, for us LM72 users, at least until LM 
8.0 comes out, this version of Mozilla may be the best and safest. The 
Texstar i586 rpms (based on the Cooker i586 version) yield the infamous 
"runtime mismatch, so leaking context" error message, which, as it 
turned out, was no laughing matter. At least, from my experience, the 
Texstar i586 Mozilla kept crashing and freezing until I had to get rid 
of it.

OK, here is the URL for the spanking new RH6 i386 rpms for Mozilla 0.8.1

http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/software/RH6/RPMS/i386/

mozilla-0.8.1-2.i386..> 09-Apr-2001 19:09   6.8M
mozilla-chat-0.8.1-2..> 09-Apr-2001 19:0981k
mozilla-devel-0.8.1-..> 09-Apr-2001 19:06   2.3M
mozilla-mail-0.8.1-2..> 09-Apr-2001 19:09   1.3M
mozilla-psm-0.8.1-2...> 09-Apr-2001 19:09   599k

Yours,

Benjamin




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Re: [expert] converting to mutt

2001-04-09 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Apr 09, 2001 at 09:29:18PM -0700, CB wrote:

> > is pretty simple.  Don't know about converting from netscape (never
> > used it), but if you can export your address book and read a ~/.muttrc
> 
> ME said that it was the same mbox format as netscape, but just delete
> any index files.  I looked around a bit (never occurred to me until

No clue... I actually use qmail's Maildir format with mutt... =)

> tonight to look for mutt.org :-/ ) and found an online .muttrc
> generator.  I'm gonna be testing it soon.  Gonna have to build the
> filtering myself, but can probably figure it out.  One thing:  mutt
> seems to be capable of doing pop now.  I thought that was what fetchmail
> was for?  Or it might be that it just lets you configure what you want
> mutt to tell fetchmail to do.  I'll know more after messing with it
> some.

mutt.org is a good site.  And yeah, mutt can do pop, but using
fetchmail is better I think because then you can use procmail.  I'm
not sure if mutt works the same as fetchmail in that it sends to the
local MTA, which can pipe it thru procmail.  Correct me if I'm wrong,
but this is what I currently use fetchmail for...  download, send to
qmail, qmail sends to procmail, procmail puts it in my Maildir or
various mailboxes (depending on the rule).

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Re: Re[2]: [expert] renaming multiple files

2001-04-09 Thread Kelley Terry

On Monday 09 April 2001 10:46 am, Rusty Carruth wrote:
> Dave Horsfall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Kelley Terry wrote:
> > > Is there a way to rename multiple files all of the format
> > > q_tif.bz2  to  q.tif.bz2  where the # represent digits.  In
> > > other words I need to change the underscore "_" character to a dot "."
> > > for all the file names in a directory.  If there is a way to do this
> > > w/o a shell script it would be great but I can't find one.
> >
> > Use the following script; it emulates the "=" wildcard of CP/M systems.
> >
> > Usage would be (in your case) "mved q=_tif.bz2 q=.tif.bz2".
> >
> > Use the "-n" switch for test only - no action.  Hack for your shell
> > where necessary.
>
> cool, I'll have to digest that one and see if it ends up making it into
> my list of scripts...
>
> Anyway, what I usually do is the dumb:
>
> me@mine> for i in q_tif.bz2 ; do
>
> >   ni=`echo $i | sed 's/_tif.bz2//'` # set ni to the base part I
> > want mv $i $ni.tif.bz2  # do the move
> > done
>
> That way I can season the action to taste, depending upon what exactly
> I wanted to do.  (Since you can get REALLY creative there when you
> set $ni.  Of course: (1) if you are not using bash then you'll have
> to change things a bit; and (2) if you are not lucky enough to be
> changing the destination name to something that has a '$'-eval
> delimiter as its first char then you'll have to say something like:
>
>   mv $i "$ni"foo.boo.yoohoo
>
> but, you knew that, right?   ;-)
>
> And, yes, I know the problem has now been solved at least 3 different
> ways - isn't that (one of the) point(s) of unix?;-)
>
> rc
>
>
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I didn't know I would generate so much response to this.  Again thanks to 
those who responded.  I did learn something new especially with some of the 
scripts and am saving the responses.  What I simply did was: rename _  .  *  
which changes all underscores to dots for all files in the pwd.  This could 
be filtered for specific files or specific occurrences in the files making it 
very useful.  But as you mentioned there are many ways to do it.

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[expert] Dual processor MB ?

2001-04-09 Thread Joan Tur

Hallo!

I'm thinking about upgrading my CPU (K6-3-400) and, as i'm using linux
95% of my time i suppose it's better a dual processor architecture,
isn't it??

If so... what MB should you suggest?  And what processor/speed ??

Thanks  ;)


Joan Tur. Ibiza - Spain
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Re: [expert] converting to mutt

2001-04-09 Thread CB

Vincent Danen wrote:

> is pretty simple.  Don't know about converting from netscape (never
> used it), but if you can export your address book and read a ~/.muttrc

ME said that it was the same mbox format as netscape, but just delete
any index files.  I looked around a bit (never occurred to me until
tonight to look for mutt.org :-/ ) and found an online .muttrc
generator.  I'm gonna be testing it soon.  Gonna have to build the
filtering myself, but can probably figure it out.  One thing:  mutt
seems to be capable of doing pop now.  I thought that was what fetchmail
was for?  Or it might be that it just lets you configure what you want
mutt to tell fetchmail to do.  I'll know more after messing with it
some.
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Re: [expert] Install/Uninstall Mozilla source tarball

2001-04-09 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Todd:

Thanks so much for your two messages. Really appreciate it.

Benjamin




[expert] converting to mutt

2001-04-09 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Apr 09, 2001 at 08:29:48PM -0700, CB wrote:

> > All your messages appear as signed for me.
> > Using mutt, of course :)
> 
> I'm dreadfully tired of using Netscape for email, but it works so well
> I've gotten lazy.  Has anybody documented the steps for converting to
> mutt?  It needs to include documentation of fetchmail and procmail and
> anything else required (as I understand from ME, that's it).

While not entirely appropriate to this list (cc'd to expert, please
reply on there if you are also on the list), I can tell you that mutt
is pretty simple.  Don't know about converting from netscape (never
used it), but if you can export your address book and read a ~/.muttrc
file, you're set.

I can send my mutt config files for anyone interested (properly
sanitized, of course), but they work very well for me and keeps your
homedir a little more sane by using multiple files in a ~/.mutt
directory instead of cramming everything into one ~/.muttrc file.

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Re: [expert] Install/Uninstall Mozilla source tarball

2001-04-09 Thread CB

Benjamin Sher wrote:

> How do you UNINSTALL a mozilla tarball that you built from the source
> tarball, gunzip or bzip file?

If you're lucky, there's a make uninstall option in the Makefile.  It
doesn't seem to be too prevalent, but sometimes it's there.  Otherwise,
just know where all the files are getting installed and delete them when
you want to uninstall it.  Sorry, not very user friendly, but it does
encourage you to learn how your system works.
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Re: [expert] Mozilla 0.8.1 for LM72 error messages

2001-04-09 Thread CB

Benjamin Sher wrote:

> to rebuild the Cooker src.rpm for mozilla 0.8.1 but failed and got the same
> error messages that I got from the Texstar rpm. And it showed in the
> performance: constant crashes and freezes.

By any chance are you overclocking your CPU?  If yes, try backing it
down one notch.  Also, have you recently added RAM?  It could be bad
and/or be heat related or it could have recently gone bad.  If you
recompile the kernel 2 or 3 times (just to exercise the memory and
CPU--don't install it), do you ever get any errors?
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Re: [expert] Install/Uninstall Mozilla source tarball

2001-04-09 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

Question:

If I build the Mozilla tarball from the source tarball at mozilla, can I then 
uninstall it? Or if I want to upgrade later, can I do that?

How do you UNINSTALL a mozilla tarball that you built from the source 
tarball, gunzip or bzip file?

Thank you so much.

Benjamin




Re: [expert] So...what is the verdict on KDE 2.1.1

2001-04-09 Thread s

Well, can't help you too much there.  I didn't try to get aa fonts working 
with 2.1 and when I went to test my adobe fonts for you, I don't seem to have 
any listed for the file manager or web browser.  So I don't know if that's 
normal or mine is just missing (oops, a bug?), but I didn't use them anyway.  
I do have a couple of windows fonts that I am using presently that look good. 
Maybe someone else will chime in with more helpful info.  

I found an article on that issue (limited fixed fonts) back when I was 
troubleshooting mine, but I didn't bookmard it.  I had been searching google 
for linux & aa fonts when I ran across it.   
-s

On Monday 09 April 2001 12:57 pm, you wrote:
> Well, I have 2.1 and aa fonts but the problem is that adobe fonts are
> royally screwed in rendering.  Windows fonts, and any fonts except Adobe MM
> fonts are real nice.  The ONLY fixed font available/allowed is an adobe
> font which doesn't display well at all.  Like all adobe fonts under QT
> 2.3.0 aa, the fonts shift upwards, screwing up alignment in any browser
> window that includes any fixed fonts mixed with other fonts.  It also makes
> things like web searches a pain because the text entered in the query
> window, say in Google, is displaced upward and partially covered/hidden by
> the upper limit of the text entry box.
>
> If 2.1.1 somehow fixes this problem then that alone would be enough to get
> me to upgrade.
>




Re: [expert] Network hassle

2001-04-09 Thread Dave Sherman

If your NE2000 cards are PCI (and it appears to be so, from the driver 
that is loading), then the below advice is not correct.

Question: Do you have your BIOS set to NOT have a PnP OS? This is what you 
want, so that the BIOS itself will take care of assigning IRQ's and I/O 
addresses, rather than waiting for the OS to do it.

Another question: What chipset are these cards using? I know there are at 
least two Realtek "native" drivers, for the 8019 chipset and the 8139 
chipset. Unless you know for sure that they want the ne2k-pci driver, you 
might want to try a different module:
modprobe rtl8019
as an example.

Since I am jumping into the middle of this thread, I have probably missed 
something, like the possibility that you have already done the things I am 
suggesting...

Hope this helps,
Dave

On Monday 09 April 2001 16:37, thus spake David Rankin:
> Declan Moriarty wrote:
> >  A look in /var/log/messages, however, says even more
> >
> >  workhorse insmod:
> > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: invalid parameter irq
> >  That prompted me to run linuxconf and remove the irq setting, seeing
> > as that entry was optional, and restart, (windoze training ;-) but the
> > messages did not change. It is still bellyaching about the invalid irq
> >
> > My 2 machines are loaded with Realtek NE2000 compatible cards. These
> > talk to each other in dos, so it is a linux config problem.
>
> Declan, this may or may not help, but I remember reading that on some
> NE2000 cards the IRQ is set via software. Evidently, the interface with
> the soft IRQ has to be run in DOS to configure the card. I remember
> reading that there isn't a Linux soft IRQ interface for a majority of
> the NE2000 cards. So, if your Linux box is complaining about an invalid
> IRQ, you may need to use a DOS machine to change the NE2000 IRQ to
> something that will not conflict with your Linux box and then try and
> bring the card back up under Linux with the new soft IRQ set.
>
> Just my two cents
>
> --
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> Nacogdoches, Texas

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Re: [expert] Network hassle

2001-04-09 Thread mike ryder

Hi Declan,

I had this problem and found that there are 2 versions of the realtek card.

The responses that you are getting are wholly consistent with the module not
loading.

The ne2k-pci module is for the realtek 8029 card (an older card). Try
changing the module to the 8139 - that worked for me.

hth
Mike


- Original Message -
From: "Declan Moriarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Network hassle


On Mon, 09 Apr 2001, Matthew Micene wrote:
> At 05:24 PM 4/7/2001 +, Declan Moriarty wrote:
> > I'm trying to network 2 linux pcs here and have run into a spot
of
> >bother. One seems fine. The other will ping 127.0.0.1 OK, but sees the
network
> >as unreachable.
>
> What does it think its routing table should look like? The check with
route
> -n to
> see the routing table, if there is a problem there, the initialization
files
> /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
should be
> checked to make sure they have the proper values.

route -n shows only 127.0.0.1 . Presumably, all route with the non
functioning
device eth0 have been deleted. route -n on my better machine is there or
thereabouts.

/etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 seem
the
same as the machine which actually works. I haven't rebuilt the kernel or
modules yet, but I did the network bits of both machines, so I'd expect both
or
none to be right. The module ne2k-pci is 7264 bytes on each machine.

>
> >Anyhow, my problem:
> >eth0 throws up an error and can't be initialised on bootup
>
> What is that error?


This proved to be a very good question!
The kernel spits a line about
bringinging up network: Delaying eth0 initialization.[Failed]
A look in /var/log/boot.log gives me this

 workhorse ifup: delaying eth0 initialisation
 workhorse network: bringing up device eth0 failed

on a shutdown, you're told a little more

 workhorse ifdown eth0: unknown interface: No such device
 workhorse ifdown eth0: error fetching interface information:
Device
not found
 workhorse> shutting down interface eth0 succeded

 A look in /var/log/messages, however, says even more

 workhorse insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
invalid
parameter irq
 That prompted me to run linuxconf and remove the irq setting, seeing as
that
entry was optional, and restart, (windoze training ;-) but the messages did
not
change. It is still bellyaching about the invalid irq

My 2 machines are loaded with Realtek NE2000 compatible cards. These talk to
each other in dos, so it is a linux config problem.

>
> Unresolved symbols are the harbinger of doom.  Just kidding.  They usually
> represent modules that are compiled for a different kernel.  Check the
kernel
> settings and remake and reinstall the modules at a minimum.

Will do. Somebody got going on this one and has raid arrays on bootup :-/.
The same kids will cheer if you download the latest unstable kernel, go on
irc
and tell everyone there using it, and then suddenly get busy doing something
else when you have to sort yourself out.

>
>
> The installation is 7.0 (Air), kernel 2.2.14-15. Curiously, the graphical
"What
> >have we got here?" programs say it's a 586 cpu, correctly identify it as
a k6,
> >and give it the generation number 6 (=i686). Clear as mud, isn't it?
>
> See the earlier thread on this list about i686 and i586 binaries for a
"good"
> discussion of this problem on k6's.

I read a lot of it - it was a big issue for me; I've 2 k6/2 pcs here, and
they're not going away for a long time.


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Re: [expert] Network hassle

2001-04-09 Thread Ken Thompson


>  A look in /var/log/messages, however, says even more
>
>  workhorse insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o:
> invalid parameter irq
>  That prompted me to run linuxconf and remove the irq setting, seeing as
> that entry was optional, and restart, (windoze training ;-) but the
> messages did not change. It is still bellyaching about the invalid irq
>
> My 2 machines are loaded with Realtek NE2000 compatible cards. These talk
> to each other in dos, so it is a linux config problem.

Watch your boot up screen (The one that shows system stuff before the 
operating system is loaded) below where it tells you about memory and stuff 
is a list of PCI devices and their assigned resources.
My Realtek stuff is usually on IRQ 11 if your's has changed you may have to 
use your DOS configuration tools to change it back to PnP or set the IRQ to 
an unused IRQ..
If your cards talk with each other using the Realtek diagnostic disk, good, 
but, there are no system resources loaded at this time.  Try removing the 
card, ALL reference to the card and re-boot. Then shutdown and place the card 
in a different PCI slot and boot the system. Then try to configure it again.
I have had Video and Sound cards interfere with NIC cards, look at the IRQ 
and I/O resources for them also. Some of my Realtek cards wanted IRQ 5 and 
some 3Com stuff wants IRQ 3 both of which will interfere with other hardware.
>From what I can see of your problem, I'm pretty sure it's an IRQ conflict and 
they can be hard to trouble shoot.
Good Luck,
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Re: [expert] Network hassle

2001-04-09 Thread David Rankin

Declan Moriarty wrote:

>
>  A look in /var/log/messages, however, says even more
>
>  workhorse insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: invalid
> parameter irq
>  That prompted me to run linuxconf and remove the irq setting, seeing as that
> entry was optional, and restart, (windoze training ;-) but the messages did not
> change. It is still bellyaching about the invalid irq
>
> My 2 machines are loaded with Realtek NE2000 compatible cards. These talk to
> each other in dos, so it is a linux config problem.
>

Declan, this may or may not help, but I remember reading that on some NE2000 cards
the IRQ is set via software. Evidently, the interface with the soft IRQ has to be run
in DOS to configure the card. I remember reading that there isn't a Linux soft IRQ
interface for a majority of the NE2000 cards. So, if your Linux box is complaining
about an invalid IRQ, you may need to use a DOS machine to change the NE2000 IRQ to
something that will not conflict with your Linux box and then try and bring the card
back up under Linux with the new soft IRQ set.

Just my two cents

--
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Nacogdoches, Texas






[expert] Samba Printing MDK8.0b2

2001-04-09 Thread Lieven Van Acker

Hi,

I installed the second beta of Mandrake 8.0 and I am currently facing
the problem of print spool files that are not removed from the spool
area. Printing is configured with cups but I don't think that has
anything to do with my problem.

The spool files are created with mode 0700, de mode of the spool
directory is 1777 (as it is per default).

Another anoying thing is that users can't use the windows print-spooler
to manage jobs (it seems they can't remove queued jobs - even the ones
they own themselves)...

Has anyone noticed this problem and what about a possible workaround?

Thanks,

Lieven





Re: [expert] Network hassle still.

2001-04-09 Thread Declan Moriarty

Further to the other post. I went to build a kernel again, and had to
install bin86, gcc, the kernel source, headers, ncurses-devel, & ncurses. I
now vaguely recall a reinstall on this m/c with the mandrake cd acting up
somewhat :-/. It was still left looking for some stupid dependency thing called
libbfd.2.9.5.0.16.so, which I couldn't find. Built the kernel anyhow from
scratch screwed up first time over the missing bin86 which rpm never mentioned
was needed, BTW, and I forgot the   second time :-(.
Sorted that, and I still have EXACTLY the same error message :-(. Before you
ask, I renamed the /lib/modules/2.2.14  directory each time so I wouldn't have
new modules landing on old ones. I think I know how to do a kernel. 
make xconfig then (MUCH later)

make dep; make clean; male all; make modules; make modules_install; make bzImage

Judging by file dates in the /boot directory, it all went in except the module
info. vmlinuz-2.2.14-15, & System.Map are new. module-info is still from
last August. Is this important?

Have I screwed up again, or is it a hardware thing? The hardware approach would
be to swap network cards, bring over the working kernel, which would run the
machine, and generally try to transfer the fault some way. I could probably
swap linux disks, as they each have a linux disk, and boot to a consoile. But I
don't want to take these computers apart if I don't have to.

BTW, is there a magic with rpm to find out what package on the cd supplies such
a file? There's umpteen rpms there, and without querying each of them
individually It would be nice to let something else do the work.



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Re: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems

2001-04-09 Thread Daniel Woods

> > > Your partitions may have changed.
> > > Try mounting different partitions, looking for boot.
> > > >   # mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt
> > > >   EXT2-fs: 03:0a:  couldn't mount because of unsupported
> > > >   optional features.
> > > >   mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
> > > >   /dev/hda1 or too many mounted filesystems.
> >
> > That's what I was already trying, to mount ANY linux partition
> > at /mnt. In this case hda1 is /boot partition.  The problem
> > is that e2fsck reports unable to fsck partitions.
> 
> here's a possibility: i have noticed that if you change the partition
> table, trying to create filesystems on the newly added partitions
> doesn't tend to work.  have you tried rebooting and then remaking
> the filesystem?

Yes, I did. The ext2 fs was created ok, however the problem started
when I was trying to add/insert a FAT32 win partition.  Because I was not
able to use fdisk to do it properly, I used Partition Magic 5 (win).
If you re-read my original post, you'll get clear details of the problem.
If someone needs a copy of that, I can repost to the list.

Thanks... Dan.






Re: [expert] Network hassle

2001-04-09 Thread Declan Moriarty

On Mon, 09 Apr 2001, Matthew Micene wrote:
> At 05:24 PM 4/7/2001 +, Declan Moriarty wrote:
> > I'm trying to network 2 linux pcs here and have run into a spot of
> >bother. One seems fine. The other will ping 127.0.0.1 OK, but sees the network
> >as unreachable.
> 
> What does it think its routing table should look like? The check with route 
> -n to
> see the routing table, if there is a problem there, the initialization files
> /etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 should be
> checked to make sure they have the proper values.

route -n shows only 127.0.0.1 . Presumably, all route with the non functioning
device eth0 have been deleted. route -n on my better machine is there or
thereabouts.

/etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 seem the
same as the machine which actually works. I haven't rebuilt the kernel or
modules yet, but I did the network bits of both machines, so I'd expect both or
none to be right. The module ne2k-pci is 7264 bytes on each machine.

> 
> >Anyhow, my problem:
> >eth0 throws up an error and can't be initialised on bootup
> 
> What is that error?


This proved to be a very good question!
The kernel spits a line about 
bringinging up network: Delaying eth0 initialization.[Failed] 
A look in /var/log/boot.log gives me this

 workhorse ifup: delaying eth0 initialisation
 workhorse network: bringing up device eth0 failed
 
on a shutdown, you're told a little more

 workhorse ifdown eth0: unknown interface: No such device
 workhorse ifdown eth0: error fetching interface information: Device
not found
 workhorse> shutting down interface eth0 succeded 

 A look in /var/log/messages, however, says even more

 workhorse insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: invalid
parameter irq
 That prompted me to run linuxconf and remove the irq setting, seeing as that
entry was optional, and restart, (windoze training ;-) but the messages did not
change. It is still bellyaching about the invalid irq

My 2 machines are loaded with Realtek NE2000 compatible cards. These talk to
each other in dos, so it is a linux config problem.

> 
> Unresolved symbols are the harbinger of doom.  Just kidding.  They usually
> represent modules that are compiled for a different kernel.  Check the kernel
> settings and remake and reinstall the modules at a minimum.

Will do. Somebody got going on this one and has raid arrays on bootup :-/.
The same kids will cheer if you download the latest unstable kernel, go on irc
and tell everyone there using it, and then suddenly get busy doing something
else when you have to sort yourself out.

> 
> 
> The installation is 7.0 (Air), kernel 2.2.14-15. Curiously, the graphical "What
> >have we got here?" programs say it's a 586 cpu, correctly identify it as a k6,
> >and give it the generation number 6 (=i686). Clear as mud, isn't it?
> 
> See the earlier thread on this list about i686 and i586 binaries for a "good"
> discussion of this problem on k6's.

I read a lot of it - it was a big issue for me; I've 2 k6/2 pcs here, and
they're not going away for a long time.


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[expert] mdk7.2 kernel 2.4.3

2001-04-09 Thread Stefaans Mostert

Hi all

Well I did it and for someone as new to linux as me I am positively
beeming ;-)

And for all the others who had a problem out there this is what you do 

1 # cd /usr/src
2 #rm linux  (it is a symbolic link pointing at the current kernel)
3 #tar -xvzf linux-.tar.gz
4 #mv linux linux-2.4.3
5 #ln -s linux-2.4.3 linux
6 #ln /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include (mandrake does not put
this in by itself)
7 #cd linux
8 #make menuconfig (or what you prefer)
9 #make dep;make clean;make baImage;make modules;make modules_install
10 when this is finished prepare your /boot first
11 #cd /boot/
12 #rm System.map
13 mv /usr/src/linux/System.map /boot/System.map-2.4.3-1
14 #ln -s System.map-2.4.3-1 System.map
15 #mv /isr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.3-1
16 #ln -s vmlinuz-2.4.3-1 vmlinuz-2
17now comes the important part you must tell the kernel where you put
the modules of the new kernel so edit /etc/modules.conf to look exactly
and I mean EXACTLY like mine

   --

depfile=/lib/modules/2.4.3/modules.dep
pcimapfile=/lib/modules/2.4.3/modules.pcimap
isapnpmapfile=/lib/modules/2.4.3/modules.isapnpmap
usbmapfile=/lib/modules/2.4.3/modules.usbmap

path[boot]=keep lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/drivers/sound
path[toplevel]=/lib/modules/2.4.3
path[toplevel]=/lib/modules/2.4.
path[pcmcia]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/pcmcia  
path[video]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/video  
path[drivers]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/drivers  
path[fs]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/fs
path[net]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/drivers/net
path[block]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/drivers/block 
path[parport]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/drivers/parport 
path[sound]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/sound
path[ipv6]=/lib/modules/2.4.3/kernel/net/ipv6   

alias char-major-108ppp_generic
alias /dev/ppp  ppp_generic
alias tty-ldisc-3   ppp_async
alias tty-ldisc-14  ppp_synctty
alias ppp-compress-21   bsd_comp
alias ppp-compress-24   ppp_deflate
alias ppp-compress-26   ppp_deflate

alias net-pf-4 ipx
pre-install pcmcia_core /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start
alias usb-interface usb-uhci
alias parport_lowlevel parport_pc
post-install snd-card-ens1371 modprobe snd-pcm-oss
pre-install plip modprobe parport_pc ; echo 7 > /proc/parport/0/irq
alias sound-slot-0 es1371
alias char-major-195 NVdriver


-
18 now just configure lilo and point it at vmlinuz-2 (for some reason it
must be a symbolic link)

19Reboot and ENJOY
20 Mail me and tell me how much you love me if this works ;-)

Stefaans
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Re: [expert] RH6 Mozilla src.rpm fails

2001-04-09 Thread Woody Green

Benjamin Sher wrote:

> Dear friends:
> 
> I must sadly report that my attempt to rebuild the RH6 src.rpm of mozilla 
> 0.8.1 has failed. Lots of error messages have caused the rebuilding to abort.
> 
> My apologies. Perhaps you might have better luck on your systems. Maybe it 
> has something to do with my AMD K6-2 (really a i586, NOT an i686) or maybe 
> some hidden incompatibility between the RH6 src.rpm and LM7.2 .
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Benjamin

Try rpm --rebuild mozilla-0.8.1-1.src.rpm --target=i586

  Woody

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Re[2]: [expert] shell programming question -- solved

2001-04-09 Thread Karl Cunningham

To John, Dan, Rusty -- Thanks very much for your help.  In this case, 
directing output to an interim file gave different results than piping it 
all in one line, but trying it led me to the answer.  I believe the 
ambiguity is in which of the processes involved in the pipes have been 
started in time for ps to catch them.

The following seems to work reliably:

temp=`ps -ef`
if [ `echo $temp | grep -c $0` -gt 1 ] ; then
   echo "another is running"
else
   echo "all alone"
fi


thanks again
karl

At 10:02 AM 4/9/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Well, the first thing folks should do when trying to figure out what's
>going on in a script is capture the output and see whats going on.
>
>So, for example, one might do this:
>
>cnt=0
>while [ $cnt -lt 70 ] ; do
> ps -ef | egrep -v grep > /tmp/debug.1.$$
> grep $0 /tmp/debug.1.$$ > /tmp/debug.2.$$
> echo -n `wc -l /tmp/debug.2.$$`
> let cnt+=1
>done
>echo
>
>Then go look at the files and see that sometimes you'll catch
>things like:
>
> emacs myscript
> ./myscript
> vi myscript.info
>
>(as a dumb, contrived example)
>
>In my experience, you must be very careful when grepping for command
>lines - especially if they are scripts being executed, since all too
>often you also happen to have that script open in the editor!
>
>
>One thing I've seen is where the script saves its pid in a file,
>which you then check for.  Of course, you have to watch for the
>critical section there (and there is no easy way to get rid
>of it entirely, so you just have to do the best you can)  (Huh?
>What critical section???  (or, What's a critical section?) see
>below)  Another option would be to make a server that would
>keep track of things like that and answer the question
>'Am I the only one of me wanting to run?' - but that seems like
>a LOT of work  Easiest thing is probably just to try to make
>sure you don't run the script TOO often (10 times in a minute
>would be a bad idea ;-), and do a 'simple' check like we've been
>discussing.
>
>
>Ok, so what's a critical section?  Its a section of code (usually)
>that, if you have 2 separate threads of control execute that code
>at the same time the results can (might) be erroneous.  One of the standard
>examples is :  static int i; crit_sec_oops(int addme){ int j; j=i + addme; 
>i=j;}
>
>Now, if thread 1 comes through, calculates the sum, then thread 2 comes
>along, caluclates the sum AND manages to store it back into i, then
>thread 1 continues along and stores ITS version into i - you just lost
>thread 2's contribution to i.
>
>Trying to have a file as your locking means leaves you a critical
>section also, but we'll leave that as an exercise for the student ;-)





RE: [expert] beta 3 or rc1

2001-04-09 Thread Charles A Edwards





> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Klar
> Brian D Contr
> MSG SICN
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 12:07 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: [expert] beta 3 or rc1
>
>
> I was checking the sites this morning and noticed all the
> beta download sites have
> 8.0 beta 3 with the exception of one that has rc-1. I forget
> which site it was though.
> IS there a RC-1 release now, and if so what is different
> between rc-1 and beta?
> The rc-1 is dated I think 4/8/01 whereas beta 3 is I think 3/31/01.
>

Yes RC-1 is now available, though not yet on all the mirrors.
2 that do have it are
ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrake-iso/i586/
and ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-iso/.
As to any differences between it and the b3 most are bug fixes, as well as
enhancements
to the kernel the most notable of these being better support for VIA
chipsets.

   Charles  (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.









Re: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems

2001-04-09 Thread Dan Swartzendruber

On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Daniel Woods wrote:

>
> > Your partitions may have changed.
> > Try mounting different partitions, looking for boot.
> > >   # mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt
> > >   EXT2-fs: 03:0a:  couldn't mount because of unsupported
> > >   optional features.
> > >   mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
> > >   /dev/hda1 or too many mounted filesystems.
>
> That's what I was already trying, to mount ANY linux partition
> at /mnt. In this case hda1 is /boot partition.  The problem
> is that e2fsck reports unable to fsck partitions.

here's a possibility: i have noticed that if you change the partition
table, trying to create filesystems on the newly added partitions
doesn't tend to work.  have you tried rebooting and then remaking
the filesystem?







Re: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems

2001-04-09 Thread Daniel Woods


> Your partitions may have changed.
> Try mounting different partitions, looking for boot.
> >   # mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt
> >   EXT2-fs: 03:0a:  couldn't mount because of unsupported
> >   optional features.
> >   mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
> >   /dev/hda1 or too many mounted filesystems.

That's what I was already trying, to mount ANY linux partition
at /mnt. In this case hda1 is /boot partition.  The problem
is that e2fsck reports unable to fsck partitions.

---

To the other poster, /mnt is ok to use since it is a directory
and I can only mount one thing there. If I created /mnt/boot
and /mnt/home, then yes I can mount /boot and /home (or any
directory) there.

Thanks... Dan.






Re: [expert] So...what is the verdict on KDE 2.1.1

2001-04-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

Well, I have 2.1 and aa fonts but the problem is that adobe fonts are royally 
screwed in rendering.  Windows fonts, and any fonts except Adobe MM fonts are 
real nice.  The ONLY fixed font available/allowed is an adobe font which 
doesn't display well at all.  Like all adobe fonts under QT 2.3.0 aa, the 
fonts shift upwards, screwing up alignment in any browser window that 
includes any fixed fonts mixed with other fonts.  It also makes things like 
web searches a pain because the text entered in the query window, say in 
Google, is displaced upward and partially covered/hidden by the upper limit 
of the text entry box.

If 2.1.1 somehow fixes this problem then that alone would be enough to get me 
to upgrade.

On Monday 09 April 2001 10:55, s wrote:
> For me, I don't see much difference except for the aa fonts, which in
> itself worth it to me.  But I don't see/experience too many bugs, but I
> didn't find too many before with 2.1.  So if you're coming from 2.0 or
> 2.01, do it.  If you're coming from 2.1, the only advantage is aa fonts
> (and its a little work to get them to show up).
> MO,
> -s
>
> On Monday 09 April 2001 03:05 am, you wrote:
> > For those who have upgraded to KDE 2.1.1, what is the general verdict?
> > Does it fix more than it breaks or does it break more than it fixes?  Are
> > any new problems well offset by improvements?
> >
> > I have all the rpms but am still hesitant to install them having read a
> > number of posts here and there about problems.

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Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]

2001-04-09 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 14:01 +, Declan Moriarty wrote:
> 
>   As a hardware guy, let me say that the main heat sensitive device is
> the cpu. PCMCIA stuff uses no current worth talking of, hence no heat is
> generated. Other heat sources are battery, and power supply. What should happen
> is that the cpu is heat protected, and will slow down, then cut out in time to
> save itself, which will mess up the interrupts on a thinkpad. If something else
> is heating up big time, or showing heat sensitive behaviour, it's faulty :-{

Generally speaking you are quite right. But I don't get any errors in
any processes running, which would be the case if the cpu gets too
hot or shuts down. It's just that the networking gets shaky (first 10
or 20% packet loss then 40 to 90%). During that time all other
processes run without probs.
The other test I made was: When the time came and networking began to
falter I removed the pcmcia card and stuck it back in after one hour.
After that networking ran perfect for some time then faltered again.
I removed the card, let it cool down, stuck it in again and
everything worked again.
So you say the card may be faulty. Fine. I'll try to turn it in at
the shop but I have not much hope. THey'll put it into a notebook,
test it and say that it's the fault of my notebook...
 
>   Try a session running from mains psu with the battery removed (It can
> get hot if overcharged) and the case open; it's usually enough to remove the
> keyboard. Make sure it is on a flat surface (not a bed!) and that the fan
> works. See how it lasts then. If there's a metal plate covering the cpu, paint
> it black. That alone may cure it! Matt Black heatsinks run cooler than any other
> colour, strange as it may seem.
 
As I said, everything else is running perfectly so it can't be the
cpu getting too hot.

Thanks anyway.
wobo
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Re[2]: [expert] shell programming question (along with script debug suggestion ;-)

2001-04-09 Thread Rusty Carruth

Karl Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions.  I'm getting inconsistent results, 
> though.  When I run the following, the most common result is 5 but once in 
> a while there is a 2, 3, or 4.  I'm not sure what's going on.
> 
> cnt=0
> while [ $cnt -lt 70 ] ; do
>echo -n `ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep $0 | wc -l`
>let cnt+=1
> done
> echo
> 
> I can test for the maximum value out of 20 tests and I'm sure it would get 
> the job done.  But at this point I'm curious why this happens.  Any ideas?

Well, the first thing folks should do when trying to figure out what's
going on in a script is capture the output and see whats going on.

So, for example, one might do this:

cnt=0
while [ $cnt -lt 70 ] ; do
ps -ef | egrep -v grep > /tmp/debug.1.$$
grep $0 /tmp/debug.1.$$ > /tmp/debug.2.$$
echo -n `wc -l /tmp/debug.2.$$`
let cnt+=1
done
echo

Then go look at the files and see that sometimes you'll catch
things like:

emacs myscript
./myscript
vi myscript.info

(as a dumb, contrived example)

In my experience, you must be very careful when grepping for command
lines - especially if they are scripts being executed, since all too
often you also happen to have that script open in the editor!


One thing I've seen is where the script saves its pid in a file,
which you then check for.  Of course, you have to watch for the
critical section there (and there is no easy way to get rid
of it entirely, so you just have to do the best you can)  (Huh?  
What critical section???  (or, What's a critical section?) see 
below)  Another option would be to make a server that would 
keep track of things like that and answer the question
'Am I the only one of me wanting to run?' - but that seems like
a LOT of work  Easiest thing is probably just to try to make
sure you don't run the script TOO often (10 times in a minute
would be a bad idea ;-), and do a 'simple' check like we've been
discussing.


Ok, so what's a critical section?  Its a section of code (usually)
that, if you have 2 separate threads of control execute that code
at the same time the results can (might) be erroneous.  One of the standard
examples is :  static int i; crit_sec_oops(int addme){ int j; j=i + addme; i=j;}

Now, if thread 1 comes through, calculates the sum, then thread 2 comes
along, caluclates the sum AND manages to store it back into i, then
thread 1 continues along and stores ITS version into i - you just lost
thread 2's contribution to i.

Trying to have a file as your locking means leaves you a critical
section also, but we'll leave that as an exercise for the student ;-)

rc





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[expert] Kmail small print fonts -- Solved!

2001-04-09 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

I figured out an ad hoc solution to the problem of small fonts in Kmail. I 
discovered that when I tried to use my True Type fonts (added from Windows 
via DrakConf/Fonts), the print fonts were really tiny, barely legible and 
very hard on the eyes. 

Thanks to a tip from Andrew, I decided to experiment by using only Type 1 
fonts. Bottom line: If you set the font in Kmail's Settings, Configuration, 
Appearance, Fonts to a font like Adobe helvetica, size 18, regular for 
"messaage body" (as opposed to "message list," etc.), you will get a 
moderately sized, readable printed text that is Adobe helvetica. The key 
seems to be to find the font that works with your printer in Kmail. The 
results is pleasant and acceptable. Hopefully, in the future Kmail will be 
able to do more, but this is good enough for the time being.

However, when clicking on the printer icon in the toolbar, you should also 
change the letter size to "letter" (which is our American 11 x 8.5 standard 
size letter). KDE has set the default to A4, which is the European standard. 
Otherwise, you'll have serious problems printing, paper jamming, missing 
text, etc. 

OK, this is not quite as good as I would like it, but it is good enough for 
the time being.

Benjamin

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Re: [expert] So...what is the verdict on KDE 2.1.1

2001-04-09 Thread s

For me, I don't see much difference except for the aa fonts, which in itself 
worth it to me.  But I don't see/experience too many bugs, but I didn't find 
too many before with 2.1.  So if you're coming from 2.0 or 2.01, do it.  If 
you're coming from 2.1, the only advantage is aa fonts (and its a little work 
to get them to show up).  
MO,
-s


On Monday 09 April 2001 03:05 am, you wrote:
> For those who have upgraded to KDE 2.1.1, what is the general verdict? 
> Does it fix more than it breaks or does it break more than it fixes?  Are
> any new problems well offset by improvements?
>
> I have all the rpms but am still hesitant to install them having read a
> number of posts here and there about problems.




Re[2]: [expert] renaming multiple files

2001-04-09 Thread Rusty Carruth

Dave Horsfall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Kelley Terry wrote:
> 
> > Is there a way to rename multiple files all of the format
> > q_tif.bz2  to  q.tif.bz2  where the # represent digits.  In other
> > words I need to change the underscore "_" character to a dot "." for all the
> > file names in a directory.  If there is a way to do this w/o a shell script
> > it would be great but I can't find one.
> 
> Use the following script; it emulates the "=" wildcard of CP/M systems.
> 
> Usage would be (in your case) "mved q=_tif.bz2 q=.tif.bz2".
> 
> Use the "-n" switch for test only - no action.  Hack for your shell
> where necessary.

cool, I'll have to digest that one and see if it ends up making it into
my list of scripts...

Anyway, what I usually do is the dumb:

me@mine> for i in q_tif.bz2 ; do 
>   ni=`echo $i | sed 's/_tif.bz2//'` # set ni to the base part I want
>   mv $i $ni.tif.bz2  # do the move
> done

That way I can season the action to taste, depending upon what exactly
I wanted to do.  (Since you can get REALLY creative there when you
set $ni.  Of course: (1) if you are not using bash then you'll have
to change things a bit; and (2) if you are not lucky enough to be
changing the destination name to something that has a '$'-eval
delimiter as its first char then you'll have to say something like:

mv $i "$ni"foo.boo.yoohoo

but, you knew that, right?   ;-)

And, yes, I know the problem has now been solved at least 3 different
ways - isn't that (one of the) point(s) of unix?;-)

rc


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[expert] beta 3 or rc1

2001-04-09 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN

I was checking the sites this morning and noticed all the beta download sites have
8.0 beta 3 with the exception of one that has rc-1. I forget which site it was though.
IS there a RC-1 release now, and if so what is different between rc-1 and beta?
The rc-1 is dated I think 4/8/01 whereas beta 3 is I think 3/31/01.

Brian D. Klar - CVE
OTS
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(937) 973-3125 (pager)





[expert] Problem starting Gnome with 8.0 Beta3

2001-04-09 Thread Dallin Rasmuson
Title: Problem starting Gnome with 8.0 Beta3





I am have trouble starting gnome and other window managers with 8.0 Beta 3.  I am start KDE fine. 


The following is the error message I get.


/usr/X111R6/bin/xsetroot:  unable to open display ' '
Must be run in a X Session


Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
SESSION_MANAGER=local/dragon.nextpage.com:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1260


Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:


Any help much appreciated.


Dallin





[expert] RH6 Mozilla src.rpm fails

2001-04-09 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

I must sadly report that my attempt to rebuild the RH6 src.rpm of mozilla 
0.8.1 has failed. Lots of error messages have caused the rebuilding to abort.

My apologies. Perhaps you might have better luck on your systems. Maybe it 
has something to do with my AMD K6-2 (really a i586, NOT an i686) or maybe 
some hidden incompatibility between the RH6 src.rpm and LM7.2 .

Yours,

Benjamin
-- 
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http://www.websher.net
Benjamin and Anna Sher
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RE: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems

2001-04-09 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG SICN



-Original Message-
From: Ron Heron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems


Your partitions may have changed.
Try mounting different partitions, looking for boot.
>   # mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt

shouldn't there be something after /mnt since /mnt is a dir
like /mnt/disk or just some name, so long as you mkdir it in
/mnt first?

Brian

>   EXT2-fs: 03:0a:  couldn't mount because of unsupported
>   optional features.
>   mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
>   /dev/hda1 or too many mounted filesystems.
> 


=
^C
quit
:q
exit
?
help
shit

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Re: [expert] help: ext2 superblock disk problems

2001-04-09 Thread Ron Heron

Your partitions may have changed.
Try mounting different partitions, looking for boot.
>   # mount -t ext2 /dev/hda1 /mnt
>   EXT2-fs: 03:0a:  couldn't mount because of unsupported
>   optional features.
>   mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
>   /dev/hda1 or too many mounted filesystems.
> 


=
^C
quit
:q
exit
?
help
shit

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Re: [expert] shell programming question

2001-04-09 Thread Karl Cunningham

Thanks for the suggestions.  I'm getting inconsistent results, 
though.  When I run the following, the most common result is 5 but once in 
a while there is a 2, 3, or 4.  I'm not sure what's going on.

cnt=0
while [ $cnt -lt 70 ] ; do
   echo -n `ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep $0 | wc -l`
   let cnt+=1
done
echo

I can test for the maximum value out of 20 tests and I'm sure it would get 
the job done.  But at this point I'm curious why this happens.  Any ideas?

Thanks.
Karl


At 04:08 PM 4/8/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>This works from command line...
>
># if [ `ps -efw | grep -v grep | grep rerf |wc -l` -eq 0 ] ; then
>echo 'yes' ; else echo 'no' ; fi
>
>In a shell script, make it more readable...
>if [ `ps -efw | grep -v grep | grep rerf |wc -l` -eq 0 ]
>then
>echo 'yes'
># more statements here, etc.
>else
>echo 'no'
>fi
>
>-
>Also, analias command that I use *often* is
> # alias psg
> alias psg='ps -efw | grep -v grep | grep'
>
>This avoids seeing the 'grep' that is forked off by your request.
>
>Thanks...Dan





[expert] 8.0 Beta diff files?

2001-04-09 Thread Declan Moriarty

I have got an 8.0 beta from cheapbytes, as I can't practically download
an iso with a 56k modem and an isp who cuts the line every 2 hours. Now
cheapbytes  only supplied beta 2, whereas i believe beta 3 is out. Is there a
url for downloading differences, or is an iso the only option? How is a guy to
have something to complain about? ;-)


 -- 
Regards,


Declan Moriarty




Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius

A Slightly Serious(TM) Company

Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't.




Re: [expert] Mozilla 0.8.1 for LM72 error messages

2001-04-09 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Tom:

Thanks so much for your detailed comments on mozilla 0.8.1. I did in fact try 
to rebuild the Cooker src.rpm for mozilla 0.8.1 but failed and got the same 
error messages that I got from the Texstar rpm. And it showed in the 
performance: constant crashes and freezes.

Please note my new post with the URL of the Red Hat 6 src.rpm of mozilla 
0.8.1 (dated Apr 6, 01).  I hope this RH6 src.rpm (which uses rpm 3, just 
like all Mandrake versions up until and including LM72) will yield perfect 
i586 mozilla files on my AMD K6-2 (which, we have been told, is really a 
i586)  and without any error messages.  Will let the list know if my rebuild 
is not perfect.

Thanks again.

Benjamin




Re: [expert] Network hassle

2001-04-09 Thread Matthew Micene

At 10:16 PM 4/7/2001 -0600, Ken Thompson wrote:
> portmap
>The portmapper program is a security tool which prevents theft of NIS (YP),
>NFS and other sensitive information via the portmapper. A portmapper manages
>RPC connections, which are used by protocols like NFS and NIS. The portmap
>package should be installed on any machine which acts as a server for
>protocols using RPC.

This is not a security tool, it is a security hole.  In fact, the 
portmapper is the
tool by which NIS (YP), NFS and other sensitive information is freely handed
around.  It is unfortunately a necessary hole to open for RPC services.  RPC
services in general are weak in a security sense.  NIS, NFS and the r commands
(rsh, rwall, rwho) are all products of the "kinder, gentler" Internet back 
when you
probably knew the desk phone number of anyone who could get to your machine.
YP has some new security features (use of tcp wrappers, password munging on
ypbind-utils requests) as does NFS (root squashing, uid mapping).  If you are
running these services and therefore running portmap, you need to understand
the wealth of information that can be gleaned from these services.  Only 
use them
as inward facing services, and only on a network you have other security 
measures
in place.

--
Matthew Micene
Systems Development Manager
Express Search Inc.
www.ExpressSearch.com





[expert] So...what is the verdict on KDE 2.1.1

2001-04-09 Thread Praedor Tempus

For those who have upgraded to KDE 2.1.1, what is the general verdict?  Does 
it fix more than it breaks or does it break more than it fixes?  Are any new 
problems well offset by improvements?

I have all the rpms but am still hesitant to install them having read a 
number of posts here and there about problems.

-- 
Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.




Re: [expert] Network hassle

2001-04-09 Thread Matthew Micene

At 05:24 PM 4/7/2001 +, Declan Moriarty wrote:
> I'm trying to network 2 linux pcs here and have run into a spot of
>bother. One seems fine. The other will ping 127.0.0.1 OK, but sees the network
>as unreachable.

What does it think its routing table should look like? The check with route 
-n to
see the routing table, if there is a problem there, the initialization files
/etc/sysconfig/network and /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 should be
checked to make sure they have the proper values.

>Anyhow, my problem:
>eth0 throws up an error and can't be initialised on bootup

What is that error?


>This is what insmod throws up.
>  [root@workhorse /etc]# insmod ne2k-pci
>/lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: unresolved symbol ei_open
>/lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: unresolved symbol ethdev_init
>/lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: unresolved symbol ei_interrupt
>/lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: unresolved symbol NS8390_init
>/lib/modules/2.2.14-15mdk/net/ne2k-pci.o: unresolved symbol 
>ei_close
>[root@workhorse /etc]#

Unresolved symbols are the harbinger of doom.  Just kidding.  They usually
represent modules that are compiled for a different kernel.  Check the kernel
settings and remake and reinstall the modules at a minimum.


The installation is 7.0 (Air), kernel 2.2.14-15. Curiously, the graphical "What
>have we got here?" programs say it's a 586 cpu, correctly identify it as a k6,
>and give it the generation number 6 (=i686). Clear as mud, isn't it?

See the earlier thread on this list about i686 and i586 binaries for a "good"
discussion of this problem on k6's.


--
Matthew Micene
Systems Development Manager
Express Search Inc.
www.ExpressSearch.com





[expert] RH 6 src.rpm for Mozilla 0.8.1 -- URL!

2001-04-09 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

If you would like to download the Red Hat 6 src.rpm file for the recent 
Mozilla 0.8.1 of March 26 (compatible with LM72), go to:

http://people.redhat.com/blizzard/software/RH6/SRPMS/

The exact name of the file is:

mozilla-0.8.1-1.src.rpm 06-Apr-2001 02:10  29.9M 

This will allow you to rebuild the src.rpm as your own full suite of mozilla 
files (mozilla, mozilla-psm, mozilla-mail, mozilla-developer). If you have an 
AMD K6-2 as I do, you will be able to rebuild the RH file as i586 files. I 
have been told that performance should dramatically improve and you should (I 
hope) have no error messages.

I mention this partly because, in spite of assurance to the contrary, the 
Texstar rpm version of mozilla 0.8.1 (rebuilt from the Cooker directory, 
which uses rpm version 4) yielded the error messages: "runtime mismatch, so 
leaking context." I am not a programmer, just an ordinary user, but when I 
tried to use the Texstar mozilla 0.8.1, it repeatedly crashed or froze. I was 
very unhappy and went right back to mozilla 0.8 (also available on the 
Texstar site -- and the 0.8 version worked very well).

You might wish to bookmark the Red Hat site for future versions of Mozilla, 
especially the long-awaited upcoming "recommended beta" version .9 and, then, 
of course, version 1.0.

Yours,

Benjamin


-- 
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http://www.websher.net
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]

2001-04-09 Thread Declan Moriarty

Thinkpads have DISASTROUS problems with apm, but should otherwise  be
fine, and I never heard of pcmcia circuitry overheating in them. AFAIK, pcs 
run linux cooler than windoze anyhow.  What way are you running it? If you
haven't done it, you'll need a kernel set up for the thinkpad, as there are some
thinkpad specific  kernel options. There will probably be a (tiny)fan installed,
and it could be dodgy causing general overheating, which could trigger suspend
to save the cpu.

As a hardware guy, let me say that the main heat sensitive device is
the cpu. PCMCIA stuff uses no current worth talking of, hence no heat is
generated. Other heat sources are battery, and power supply. What should happen
is that the cpu is heat protected, and will slow down, then cut out in time to
save itself, which will mess up the interrupts on a thinkpad. If something else
is heating up big time, or showing heat sensitive behaviour, it's faulty :-{

Try a session running from mains psu with the battery removed (It can
get hot if overcharged) and the case open; it's usually enough to remove the
keyboard. Make sure it is on a flat surface (not a bed!) and that the fan
works. See how it lasts then. If there's a metal plate covering the cpu, paint
it black. That alone may cure it! Matt Black heatsinks run cooler than any other
colour, strange as it may seem.

Regards,


Declan Moriarty




Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius

A Slightly Serious(TM) Company

Without the optimist, the pessimist wouldn't know how happy he isn't.



On Sun, 08 Apr 2001, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 10:19 +, Declan Moriarty wrote:
> > I see the problems are with laptops. There could be issues with apm,
> > automagically messing everything up on a suspend. Is this out of the equation? 
> > 
> > BTW, what laptops? Some have specific hassles which cause install problems.
> > Have you checked the linux laptop page for a link to your ones?
> 
> Yes I have checked that. My notebook is a IBM Thinkpad 760XD, yes I
> know, it's a bit old, but I got it for 350 USD.
> I realized now that the problem with the connection is a heat problem
> in the notebook.
> When I switch it on everything works fine. After 45 - 60 minutes I
> get network errors. Then I switch it off for 30 minutes and after
> that it works again for about 1 hour. The pcmcia card seems to get
> too hot.
> 
> Well, I can live with that. I had TinyLinux installed from floppy but
> now I have a full Slackware 7.1 on it with Emacs.
> I just need the network connection to my desktop to sync files once a
> day.
> I could do the work all over again, putting a mini Slackware on a
> small partition and get the Mandrake CDs 1&2 on the harddisk via my
> desktop. But that is too much work for now...
> 
> wobo
>




Re: [expert] Mozilla 0.8.1 for LM72 error messages

2001-04-09 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sunday 08 April 2001 01:10 pm, Benjamin Sher wrote:
> Dear Tom and friends:
> I tried to rebuild the Cooker versions of Mozilla but still got the same
> error messages because of the rpm issue.
>
> By the way, my AMD K6-2 400 is really a i586, not an i686. There was a

   Never a problem here Ben (P3-450@600).  Out of curiousity, I d/l'd 
the cooker mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk  src rpm yesterday and rebuilt it on my 7.2,
rpm-3.0.5-27mdk version, glibc-2.1.3-18.5mdk, 2.4.3 kernel system.  
 This src rpm builds:
  mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm,   mozilla-devel-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm,
  mozilla-irc-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm,  mozilla-mail-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm,
  mozilla-psm-0.8.1-2mdk.i686.rpm
I installed (rpm -Uvh) only mozilla and mozilla-devel,  no problems.
'Help,  about Mozilla' shows:
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.3-5tom i686; en-US; 0.8.1) Gecko/20010408

  This is a very long compile, twice as long as a kernel, over an hour 
on my box.  In compiles like this (or any for that matter), if you get 
errors, you should try again a few times.  If you're getting errors in 
different places, it's most likely that your hardware is not up to the task.
-- 
Dale Earnhardt,  the greatest stock car driver ever, 
 he's won his 8th and  His Greatest Championship
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Re: [expert] "upgrade" RPM 3 to 4 -- Where?

2001-04-09 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Mark:

I tend to agree with you. I thought I would raise the question, anyway. I 
guess for those who stay with LM72, they can still always install RH 6.2 
versions of programs that are not available in LM72 rpm form. RH6.2 is still 
used everywhere, and for that reason Red Hat continues to produce rpms for 
RH6 as well as RH7. For instance, Mozilla 0.8.1 should appear soon on the 
Mozilla download page in both RH6 and RH7 rpm format.

Thanks so much.

Benjamin

> If you're running a 7.2 system I would really "strongly" advise against
> using any other version of RPM other then version 3. the one that you have
> on there already. you REALLY don't want the headaches of trying to convert
> from RPM version 3.x.x to version 4. There's an old saying my grandfather
> used to say to me when I was very small. "If it ain't broke boy...don't
> fix it!"
> 

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http://www.websher.net
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Daryl Johnson

No, sadly, all the windows password encryptions are working ok - as verified
by just using ordinary shares.  It's when I try to set up my linux box as
the domain controller that the problem arises.

As far as I can be certain it is fairly and squarely down to the gotcha
whereby the nt4 net logon service fails to start owing to the domain already
being controlled by the samba server.  Since this is required to do the
logon...

In fairness it is mentioned in the gotchas text but I was hoping for a work
around - or for someone to say that they were using their linux boxes as pdc
with nt4 clients without any problems.

Daryl Johnson
Proplan Associates
07710 908817


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Tharp
> Sent: 09 April 2001 11:49
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
>
>
> could this be a problem with windows encrypted password? one set (win 9x
> default I believe) set to encrypt the password to linux and the other
> passing the password "in the clear" so to speak?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 4:05 AM
> Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha
>
>
> > I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am
> using samba as
> > the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy
> with this.
> I
> > have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on
> account
> > of the net logon service failing to start.
> >
> > Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for
> Samba
> > v3
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Daryl
> >
> > Daryl Johnson
> > Proplan Associates
> >
> >
>
>
>





Re: [expert] Mozilla update confusion

2001-04-09 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Mark:

Thanks so much. Did just that.

Benjamin




Re: [expert] Mozilla update confusion

2001-04-09 Thread Mark Weaver

Benjamin,

Just use the --replacepkgs argument when you're installing the newer
package on your system, OR, even better uninstall the present package on
your system before attempting to install the new package. you won't lose
any config files from your home dir and you won't have to worry about any
conflicts. it's probably best if you removed the first mozilla package and
then installed the newer package.

As to what might be confusing the machine, my guess would be, and I think
it's very likely, that whoever put the package together didn't enter the
correct header information which is now reporting the package to be the
incorrect version. no biggie...just remove the old package and install the
new one.

Mark

On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Benjamin Sher wrote:

> Dear friends:
>
> Just take a look! Linux is confused by the Mozilla version numbers. It thinks
> that mozilla-0.8-2 (i.e. 0.8, the version released on Feb. 17) is newer than
> mozilla-0.8.1 (the version recently issued on March 26). How is this
> possible. A human being might slip but how could a machine?
>
> Any explanation?
>
> [root@sher07 mozilla]# rpm -Uvh --test *.rpm
> package mozilla-0.8-2 (which is newer than mozilla-0.8.1-2mdk) is already
> installed
> package mozilla-mail-0.8-2 (which is newer than mozilla-mail-0.8.1-2mdk) is
> already installed
> package mozilla-psm-0.8-2 (which is newer than mozilla-psm-0.8.1-2mdk) is
> already installed
> [root@sher07 mozilla]# rm mozilla-devel-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
> rm: remove `mozilla-devel-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm'?
> [root@sher07 mozilla]# rm mozilla-irc-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm
> rm: remove `mozilla-irc-0.8.1-2mdk.i586.rpm'?
>
> This, however, does not explain the "runtime mismatch, so leaking context"
> error message you get when installing mozilla 0.8.1 because I had uninstalled
> version 0.8 and deleted all files (including hidden files and configuration
> files) before installing the new 0.8.1 version.
>
> Yours,
>
> Benjamin
>
>





Re: [expert] "upgrade" RPM 3 to 4 -- Where?

2001-04-09 Thread Mark Weaver

Ben,

If you're running a 7.2 system I would really "strongly" advise against
using any other version of RPM other then version 3. the one that you have
on there already. you REALLY don't want the headaches of trying to convert
from RPM version 3.x.x to version 4. There's an old saying my grandfather
used to say to me when I was very small. "If it ain't broke boy...don't
fix it!"

Mandrake 8.0 uses version 4 of RPM if I've read the postings on the list
here, but 7.2 does not and doesn't want anything to do with it.

Mark

On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Benjamin Sher wrote:

> Dear friends:
>
> I recently heard that Red Hat has produced a special RPM package that will
> allow Red Hat 6 users (who use rpm version 3 to upgrade packages that are
> built with rpm version 4). If so, does anyone know where I can find this
> information, and, more importantly, what is the opinion of Mandrake experts
> on whether such an rpm "upgrade" would work in Mandrake 7.2?
>
> Thank you so much.
>
> Benjamin
>





Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Andrew George

On Mon,  9 Apr 2001 20:11, Chris Slater-Walker wrote:
> The last time I looked (Samba 2.07) it was _not_ capable of functioning as
> a PDC or BDC for NT/Win2000 clients - only Win9x. I think you will find
> that this functionality is due for release with Samba 2.1
>
> Chris Slater-Walker
>
Err...2.0.7 will function well as a PDC for anything before w2k, with the 
exception that it can't replicate the database (so it can't act as a BDC or 
talk to any BDC's).
Samba TNG and 2.2 can act as a PDC on win2k


> - Original Message -
> From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:05 AM
> Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha
>
> > I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba
> > as the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with
> > this.
>
> I
>
> > have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on
>
> account
>
> > of the net logon service failing to start.
> >
> > Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for
>
> Samba
>
> > v3
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Daryl
> >
> > Daryl Johnson
> > Proplan Associates




Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Ed Tharp

could this be a problem with windows encrypted password? one set (win 9x
default I believe) set to encrypt the password to linux and the other
passing the password "in the clear" so to speak?
- Original Message -
From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 4:05 AM
Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha


> I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as
> the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this.
I
> have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on
account
> of the net logon service failing to start.
>
> Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for
Samba
> v3
>
> regards
>
> Daryl
>
> Daryl Johnson
> Proplan Associates
>
>





Re: [expert] gnome-control center and pilot-link information

2001-04-09 Thread Jerry Sternesky

Josh,

Check a couple of things.

Do you have usb service starting at boot?

In /etc/sysconfig/usb do you have an entry VISOR=yes
In /etc/modules.conf do you have the following entries:

alias usb-interface usb-uhci  (this is for intel chipsets, ali has usb-ohci I 
think)
post-install usb-uhci modprobe visor

In /etc/fstab
none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs noauto 0 0

These are just some setup type things to check.

Also, my /dev/pilot is a symlink I had to add, my visor is using 
/dev/usb/ttyUSB1  so the command was

ln -s /dev/usb/ttyUSB1 /dev/pilot

Hope this helps you out.

Jerry


On Saturday 07 April 2001 18:49, Josh wrote:
> Dear Experts,
>
> I have a Handspring Visor Deluxe with the USB cradle that I use in
> Windows.  To configure this device for linux, I was told to go into
> gnomecc and set it up. If I go in as a user, the device can't tell that
> it is connected to the computer when it is prompted for me to push the
> hotsync button.  However, I figured that this was due to permissions and
> decided to try using gnomecc as root.
>
> When I click on the Pilot Link capplet, it launches another copy of the
> control-center and does not add the device as it did when using this as
> a user.  I noticed that it is looking for /dev/pilot, however, I do not
> have this entry in my /dev directory.  How do I add this, and if it is
> symply a symlink what do I link it to?
>
> I am running beta 3 of mandrake 8.0 with no updates (clean install) so
> far.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Josh
> www.thesauerfamily.net
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Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Andrew George

On Mon,  9 Apr 2001 18:05, Daryl Johnson wrote:
> I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as
> the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this. 
> I have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on
> account of the net logon service failing to start.
>
> Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba
> v3

Umm...you have done all the encrypted/cleartext password stuff when you set 
up Samba?
ie...which did you do...told NT to run Clear passwords or told 95 to run 
encrypted?




Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Chris Slater-Walker

The last time I looked (Samba 2.07) it was _not_ capable of functioning as a
PDC or BDC for NT/Win2000 clients - only Win9x. I think you will find that
this functionality is due for release with Samba 2.1

Chris Slater-Walker

- Original Message -
From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:05 AM
Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha


> I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as
> the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this.
I
> have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on
account
> of the net logon service failing to start.
>
> Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for
Samba
> v3
>
> regards
>
> Daryl
>
> Daryl Johnson
> Proplan Associates
>
>





[expert] "upgrade" RPM 3 to 4 -- Where?

2001-04-09 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

I recently heard that Red Hat has produced a special RPM package that will 
allow Red Hat 6 users (who use rpm version 3 to upgrade packages that are 
built with rpm version 4). If so, does anyone know where I can find this 
information, and, more importantly, what is the opinion of Mandrake experts 
on whether such an rpm "upgrade" would work in Mandrake 7.2?

Thank you so much.

Benjamin
-- 
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Mattias Segerdahl

Try booting the ordinary wmlinuz kernel and see if it works... Check your lilo.conf 
for more information..

// Mattias

- Original Message - 
From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [expert] Samba Gotcha


> I'm using medium security - how would I know the differencebetween kernels?
> 
> Daryl Johnson
> Proplan Associates
>  
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mattias Segerdahl
> > Sent: 09 April 2001 09:13
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
> > 
> > 
> > Are you booting the secure or nonsecure kernel?
> > 
> > The secure kernel dosn't handle samba very well since it dosn't 
> > allow access to the shared memory..
> > 
> > // Mattias
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:05 AM
> > Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha
> > 
> > 
> > > I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am 
> > using samba as
> > > the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy 
> > with this.  I
> > > have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the 
> > domain on account
> > > of the net logon service failing to start.
> > > 
> > > Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to 
> > waiting for Samba
> > > v3
> > > 
> > > regards
> > > 
> > > Daryl
> > > 
> > > Daryl Johnson
> > > Proplan Associates
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> >





RE: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Daryl Johnson

I'm using medium security - how would I know the differencebetween kernels?

Daryl Johnson
Proplan Associates
 


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mattias Segerdahl
> Sent: 09 April 2001 09:13
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha
> 
> 
> Are you booting the secure or nonsecure kernel?
> 
> The secure kernel dosn't handle samba very well since it dosn't 
> allow access to the shared memory..
> 
> // Mattias
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:05 AM
> Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha
> 
> 
> > I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am 
> using samba as
> > the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy 
> with this.  I
> > have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the 
> domain on account
> > of the net logon service failing to start.
> > 
> > Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to 
> waiting for Samba
> > v3
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> > Daryl
> > 
> > Daryl Johnson
> > Proplan Associates
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 




Re: [expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Mattias Segerdahl

Are you booting the secure or nonsecure kernel?

The secure kernel dosn't handle samba very well since it dosn't allow access to the 
shared memory..

// Mattias
- Original Message - 
From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 10:05 AM
Subject: [expert] Samba Gotcha


> I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as
> the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this.  I
> have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account
> of the net logon service failing to start.
> 
> Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba
> v3
> 
> regards
> 
> Daryl
> 
> Daryl Johnson
> Proplan Associates
> 
> 





[expert] Samba Gotcha

2001-04-09 Thread Daryl Johnson

I've run into one of the Samba gotchas which is to say I am using samba as
the pdc on my linux box.  The Win 95 client is perfectly happy with this.  I
have a win NT4 client though that refuses to log on to the domain on account
of the net logon service failing to start.

Does anyone have a workaround for this or am I limited to waiting for Samba
v3

regards

Daryl

Daryl Johnson
Proplan Associates


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