Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 12:27 -0400, A. Khattri wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote: El-Cheapo cards will work, but may not be as full-featured or as fast throughput as the more expensive 3com cards. eg: USD6 Dlink vs USD25 3com. Speaking from the server side of the fence, we swear by Intel eepro cards. Yep.. Generally, it's You Get What You Paid For -- Ow Mun Heng Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! Neuromancer 14:03:07 up 2 days, 2:15, 5 users, load average: 0.92, 1.00, 0.83 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] warning libxxxxx.la has moved
When watching emerges, I sometimes see libtool display warnings of the form 'libxxx.la has moved'. The resultant packages seem to run OK, so is this something to worry about, should it be fixed or just ignored? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:27:05 +0200, Richard Fish wrote: If so, then we are ready to proceed with burning. Here is the command that I use: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -immed -eject driveropt=burnfree file.iso If your drive doesn't support burnfree, just take out the whole driveropt=burnfree part. You can put a lot of this into /etc/defaults/cdrecord, to save (mis) typing it every time. But, something just occurred to medoes this system have 2 CD burners, or a burner and a reader? If not, you will have much trouble to burn a CD while running off the live cd. There is a boot option to copy the contents of the live CD to a RAMdisk, something like docache, which allows you to eject the CD after booting. It also makes working from the live CD a lot faster, eliminating those annoying delays as it searches the CD for a command. -- Neil Bothwick I do not like this dumb machine I really ought to sell it. It never does just what I want But only what I tell it. pgpAi5LHfjgaD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Commercial software (was: Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?)
Ralph Slooten wrote: The only real issues (sound) I have come across with users are mainly Gentoo users who use the ebuilds, which in term uses a self-created sound-wrapper file which unfortunately does not work with everyone. So, from what you just said and the previous comments on this thread, I can assume that Skype only supports the obsolete OSS API for sound? Sorry, an 'awesome' product that truly wanted to support linux would support alsa, esd, and arts sound APIs at a minimum. As for removing Skype in the future?? Where do you get your information from? It sounds to me like your personal opinion which is based on nothing more than your pro-gpl / anti-the-rest attitude. History has shown that commercial software and Linux have a difficult relationship at best: 1. Adobe Acrobat Reader was stuck at the crappy version 5 for years. The supported Linux long enough to be able to reasonably claim cross-platform support, but then their priorities changed. Only recently have their priorities changed again. 2. ATI. Their 'support' would be laughable, if I didn't have one of their products in my laptop. Won't be making *that* mistake again. 3. Bitkeeper. You do realise that Skype being commercial is a company which like *every* other commercial company *needs* to make money to survive? Their True, but supporting a Linux client takes resources and money. Business priorities change, and some suit could very easily decide that the linux client is not their core business value or some such crap. Sigh ... another twisted opinion of the word freedom. Dude, it's freedom in terms of free to choose (and to have a choice), rather than as long as it's free (price) AND GPL then it's OK ~ otherwise they are just \abusing\ you. For the record, I don't live in the 'free software' camp, but I am glad they exist. It has nothing to do with restricting choices to GPL software, but with not giving up real freedom in the name of convenience. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-free.html -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:11:47 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: I don't myself use cdrecord directly all that often, but I did manage to remember cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus which produced this output: [snip] scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) '_NEC' 'DVD_RW ND-2510A ' '2.15' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * so the correct syntax to access my burner would be cdrecord dev=0,0,0 whatever comes after that. That would be dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 - otherwise it will look for the first SCSI device. -- Neil Bothwick Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film. pgpL4Z6WWPdpP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error Bad interpretor
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 23:43:16 +0100, Ognjen Bezanov wrote: Sorry I didnt get that reply. Either way to answer that question, no - i do not have the noexec option in my fstab (where the drive is automounted). This is the line in my fstab: /dev/hda6 /mnt/storage reiserfs notail,exec,user The user option sets noexec by default, and it appears the options are processed in order, so user turns off the exec you have just set. Switch the order of the user and exec options and it should work. Use mount2 on its own to see whether exec or noexec is actually set. -- Neil Bothwick I couldn't possibly be wrong. I use an error correcting modem! pgpXH9HAJ93s0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
Mark Knecht wrote: On 6/9/05, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alternatively, you could setup syslog-ng to send the logs to another machine. I don't know about this. I seem to have gone backwards: 1) If I turn off syslog-ng then it seems that the drive never spinds up, so I guess at the root it's a syslog-ng issue. That makes sense. 2) When I re-enabled syslog-ng it now started spinning up every 10 minutes, where it used to spin up once an hour. Is that with block_dump enabled? Then it is normal. Writes to the log file by syslog-ng, for all the WRITE and dirtied inode entries will be buffered, and flushed to disk every 600s (commit=600 in mount), i.e. 10 minutes. If it's with block_dump disabled, then I don't know. I think I'd do jsut as well to put the log file on the MythTV backend machine and make it mountable as an NFS mount. That just means a bit of network traffic every 10 minutes, right? I'm planning on placing the major portion of portage on an NFS mount also so that the frontend box doesn't carry that file load and I only have to burden the net with 5 downloads a day. I guess my use of Gentoo has gotten large enough that I need to start doing stuff like that. Logging over NFS is ok, but you could directly log to the syslog-ng daemon of the backend machine. For this, you need to setup a destination on your MythTV machine: destination backend { tcp(192.168.1.1, 514); }; where you should replace 192.168.1.1 by the IP address of the backend, and use that destination instead of the current file destination, for example: log { source(src); destination(backend); }; On the backend, you need to add a tcp entry to the source directive: source src { unix-stream(/dev/log); pipe(/proc/kmsg); tcp(0.0.0.0, 514); internal(); }; Finally, you'll have to open your firewall to allow incoming connections on the backend to port 514 (if you have a firewall on the backend). You could also use UDP if it's more convenient for you. -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] The One TRUE Hostname / Domainname Assignation Method
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just upgraded my baselayout and noticed the deprecation of /etc/dnsdomainname in favour of /etc/conf.d/domainname . Unless I follow the instructions [1] on Gentoo-wiki.com and in /etc/hosts point 127.0.0.1 to my FQDN first in apparent contravention of the hosts manpage, which says that the numeric address should first point to the canonical hostname in /etc/hosts, my machines all return localhost when I issue the command hostname -f . In addition, the login string on my console is somethng like this : This is awaaz.(none) Can we PLEASE, once and for all, have a canonical, authoritative, categorical explanation on how to set the hostname, the domainname and the FQDN for machines with and without static IPs? Cheers, Aniruddha Karim Shankar New Delhi, India [1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Setup_Your_FQDN -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCqUyXhJkrd6A3rSsRAjLOAJ9I18Zc2XyuDq80UdoQc1XpxHuPBQCeIOOS 9vhfqRcVpgWnpE73F6ykZ4c= =GNTv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel da Veiga wrote: Skype searches for sound daemons, but I notice it never uses them, OSS always (or the emulated OSS under ALSA), maybe will come handy in the future of development. Skype does not search for demons at all, the gentoo sound-wrapper script does. I wouldn't worry about the Linux version dissapear, the FREE version, OH YES, just like Kazaa and its bunch of spyware. Skype will ramain free (they state this on the website, including skype-to-skype calls always), and it is also spyware-free too. Comparing KaZaA and Skype is not a very good comparison at all dude... Besides, if you take a look at the license you agree when you use it (and I am almost a lawyer), taking your freedom away is the least they are doying. You basically agree that they may use your idle bandwidth and CPU time for any anonymous purpose. I won't let them use my computer without me knowing what's going on. Sure, a GREAT software, but FREE?! *lol* don't be fooled, they are getting well paid, believe me. The licence states: quote 4.1 Permission to utilize Your computer. In order to receive the benefits provided by the Skype Software, you hereby grant permission for the Skype Software to utilize the processor and bandwidth of Your computer for the limited purpose of facilitating the communication between You and other Skype Software users. /quote This means (in simple english) that your Skype maintains it's own online status, and uses it's own bandwidth to stay online and in contact with other contacts you have in your list. for the limited purpose of facilitating the communication between You and other Skype Software users does *NOT* mean You basically agree that they may use your idle bandwidth and CPU time for any anonymous purpose at all ~ And you are almost a lawyer you say, p. Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCqVuaAWKxH5yWMT8RAlsZAKD31segxIxHfi28+nzQyAp+DijPfwCgvgQL Fd9iSYce2AdZNayRfCDA6H0= =W64R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system
Matt Place wrote: Check out emwrap in the forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474-highlight-emwrap.html With emwrap you can rebuild your entire system, including the toolchain, correctly. Hope it helps, I think it's great. Hm. I just checked it out and have to agree - it's quite helpful. I've got a problem, though. Because I did not have enough space in /var/tmp/portage, the build failed. How do I make emwrap.sh continue the build? To start, I ran: emwrap.sh -uDwbe This did rebuild a lot but then failed (not enough space). The emwrap.sh help has: -c, contContinues emwrap from where it stoped. To use rerun the same command and add c and emwrap will start from where it stop without haveing rebuild everything before. This is the same as --resume in emerge. But how do I use this? I tried emwrap.sh -uDwbec This only printed a list of packages. I suppose those, that are in /tmp/emwrap/failed.lst. Did I do something wrong? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- Any false value is gonna be fairly boring in Perl, mathematicians notwithstanding. -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] sys-libs/pam-0.78-r2: ERROR: pam_access have dependencies in /usr.
Hi! I'm trying to compile sys-libs/pam-0.78-r2 and get the following error: /bin/install -c -m 755 pam_xauth.so /var/tmp/portage/pam-0.78-r2/image//lib/security test -d /var/tmp/portage/pam-0.78-r2/image//usr/share/man/man8 || mkdir -p /var/tmp/portage/pam-0.7 2/image//usr/share/man/man8 /bin/install -c -m 644 pam_xauth.8 /var/tmp/portage/pam-0.78-r2/image//usr/share/man/man8/ make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/pam-0.78-r2/work/Linux-PAM-0.78/modules/pam_xauth' make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/pam-0.78-r2/work/Linux-PAM-0.78/modules' * Checking if all modules were built... * ERROR: pam_access have dependencies in /usr. !!! ERROR: sys-libs/pam-0.78-r2 failed. What's that supposed to mean? Thanmks, Alexander Skwar -- Don't worry. Life's too long. -- Vincent Sardi, Jr. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Compilation problem: gcc
Hello all, I have a strange error doing an 'emerge -uD world': Source unpacked. ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib creating cache ./config.cache checking whether to use symlinks for manpages... no checking whether to compress the manpages... no checking whether to add a package name suffix for the manpages... no checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe ) works... no configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. ... Here is the config.log: ... This file contains any messages produced by compilers while running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake. configure:579: checking whether to use symlinks for manpages configure:591: checking whether to compress the manpages configure:614: checking whether to add a package name suffix for the manpages configure:642: checking for gcc configure:755: checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe ) works configure:771: gcc -o conftest -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe conftest.c 15 gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory cc1: Broken pipe: error closing - configure: failed program was: #line 766 configure #include confdefs.h main(){return(0);} work/tcl8.4.9/unix/config.log (END) If I try an individual package, I have a failure also, but with a different message depending on the package. Thanks for any help -- Jean Magnan de Bornier | email: jean-at-bornier.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables blocks ssh
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Antonio Coralles wrote: I've recently turned my workstation into a router for my laptop, using the great gentoo home router guide. Everthing is ok so far, with one exception: I can't connect to my ssh server anymore from outside the LAN, becuase iptables seems to prevent this, allthough i # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -i eth1 -j ACCEPT . The ordering of the rules is important. Perhaps you can provide more context by showing us the rules preceding the one above? Well, this is a hot tip. I think that the order in which I entered my iptables rules is the same as in 'http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml code Listing 5.3', whith the exception that I entered '# iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -i eth1 -j ACCEPT' after the nat rules. I'll try to reenter them in the correct order ... Thanks, Antonio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive
On 6/10/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:28:40 -0400, Colin wrote: Probably. You can save space with a compressed filesystem like jjfs or squashfs. You probably want to mount it read only since flash has limited write cycles. Kind of off on a tangent, but there are other alternatives to a write-protected file system. Instead of using a USB flash disk, there are IDE-CompactFlash adapters that would achieve the same result but with 100% IDE compatibility, so the disk just shows up as /dev/hd[x] like a normal hard drive and doesn't require any rootdelaying or USB drivers. I don't know if CF cards are lockable, I know SD's are. CF cards aren't lockable, but some CD-IDE adaptors have a write protect jumper. Of course, you'll have problems saving any settings with a write- protected /etc, so JFFS2 may be a better option. This is a filesystem specifically for flash driver, that avoids repeated writing to the same part of the disk. For me this is about how to make a quiet MythTV frontend machine, not a 'Gentoo PC.' No hard drive is less noise. My thought was that once the machine was configured I'd like to lock the flash and never write ANYTHING to it. The only time I'd possibly do anything on the flash was to update the system, maybe once every few months. Other than that if the machine is turned on and playing TV shows then I'd be happy with no logging or any type and the drive doesn't change at all. Longer term maybe PXE booting is a better solution but my first attempts at that haven't worked well. This was conceived as an experiment to see if a Pundit-R with nothing more than a processor memory added to it internally could suffice as a Myth frontend using this external flash drive. Thanks -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Compilation problem: gcc
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 12:44 +0200, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory run binutils-config -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tracking ebuilds
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zac Medico wrote: I would check the ebuild changelogs and bugs.gentoo.org. There's also program called herdstat that you can use to query information about package maintainers (I merged it but haven't tried it yet). herdstat's lame :) To answer the OP's question, no there is no mailing list for this kind of stuff. The best thing to do is setup your bugzilla account to watch people or herds for which you are interested in. For example, apache bugs are assigned to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so you should setup bugzilla to watch that alias. You will then get all bugzilla mail that goes to that alias. HTH - -- A sadist is a masochist who follows the Golden Rule. Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ BSD | cron | forensics | shell-tools | commonbox | netmon | vim | web-apps ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCqWMyC3poscuANHARAiDOAJ9NktskfNNQQdAHx/9YJB4Qywf5swCg4Xo9 Sh8gmrklpQBT7QwNP/f/w6A= =HlII -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:59:16 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: On 6/10/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CF cards aren't lockable, but some CD-IDE adaptors have a write protect jumper. Of course, you'll have problems saving any settings with a write- protected /etc, so JFFS2 may be a better option. This is a filesystem specifically for flash driver, that avoids repeated writing to the same part of the disk. Or, of course, you could simply mount the filesystem ro. For me this is about how to make a quiet MythTV frontend machine, not a 'Gentoo PC.' No hard drive is less noise. My thought was that once the machine was configured I'd like to lock the flash and never write ANYTHING to it. What about the MythTV data? Is that on another box, networked? The only time I'd possibly do anything on the flash was to update the system, maybe once every few months. Other than that if the machine is turned on and playing TV shows then I'd be happy with no logging or any type and the drive doesn't change at all. It sounds like you need something like one of these, which keep the card inside the box, and treat it as a hard disk (but silent). Removing all hard disks would also reduce the amount of heat generated, so you could reduce fan speeds to make it even quieter. -- Neil Bothwick If you smoke after sex, you're doing it too fast. pgpEXDa0j8gEO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system
Good question. Unfortunately I haven't used that feature yet. Your best bet will probably be to post to emwrap's support thread. hielvc is the one who created emwrap, he'll be best at helping figure out your particular situation. You may want to check before you post because chances are good that someone has already had a similar problem. That said...according to : http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-emwrap-start-100.html#2343016 it looks to me like you are using -c (--resume) correctly. As I said before you may want to post your question their. I had many problems with the script running on my box, which is partly my fault, but that's besides the point. Once I was able to get the script to work correctly it was great, the benefits are well worth the time spent. Hope this helps. -Matt- On 6/10/05, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Place wrote: Check out emwrap in the forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474-highlight-emwrap.html With emwrap you can rebuild your entire system, including the toolchain, correctly. Hope it helps, I think it's great. Hm. I just checked it out and have to agree - it's quite helpful. I've got a problem, though. Because I did not have enough space in /var/tmp/portage, the build failed. How do I make emwrap.sh continue the build? To start, I ran: emwrap.sh -uDwbe This did rebuild a lot but then failed (not enough space). The emwrap.sh help has: -c, contContinues emwrap from where it stoped. To use rerun the same command and add c and emwrap will start from where it stop without haveing rebuild everything before. This is the same as --resume in emerge. But how do I use this? I tried emwrap.sh -uDwbec This only printed a list of packages. I suppose those, that are in /tmp/emwrap/failed.lst. Did I do something wrong? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- Any false value is gonna be fairly boring in Perl, mathematicians notwithstanding. -- Larry Wall in [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Shell Script runs fine directly, fails in crontab
On 6/2/05, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 14:54 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: Sometimes there are environmental differences that are not immediately obvious between executing a command at the shell vs. within a cron task. A great hint I saw was to use the 'sys-process/at' package's command to schedule the script to run some time in the future. Then go to the /var/spool/at/atjobs folder to find a new script that has the environment configured correctly from the environment used to schedule the job. Use that script in your cron task to have a correct environment for the cron task. Dave Guess I'll give that a shot at some point. Might sourcing /etc/profile help? invoking a login shell will cause loading all your environmental variables correctly. so, instead of invoking /path/to/shell.sh use sh -l /path/to/shell.sh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Error emerging gnome2-print
Hi, I got the following error while doing emerge gnome2-print: ## omc-1 ~ # emerge --resume *** Resuming merge... emerge (1 of 1) dev-perl/gnome2-print-0.61 to / md5 files ;-) gnome2-print-0.94.ebuild md5 files ;-) gnome2-print-0.61.ebuild md5 files ;-) ChangeLog md5 files ;-) metadata.xml md5 files ;-) files/digest-gnome2-print-0.61 md5 files ;-) files/digest-gnome2-print-0.94 md5 src_uri ;-) Gnome2-Print-0.61.tar.gz Unpacking source... Unpacking Gnome2-Print-0.61.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/gnome2-print-0.61/work Source unpacked. Subroutine const_cccmd redefined at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux/Glib/MakeHelper.pm line 509. Loaded 17 type definitions from maps 2 GBoxed 1 GEnum 1 GFlags 6 GObject 7 GtkObject Including ApiDoc pod... *** Can't load dependency information for Gnome2: Can't locate Gnome2/Install/Files.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/ExtUtils/Depends.pm line 170. make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. !!! ERROR: dev-perl/gnome2-print-0.61 failed. !!! Function perl-module_src_compile, Line 107, Exitcode 2 !!! compilation failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. ## Any ideas? jules -- Jules Colding PGP Public Key: 6266E7B7 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Compilation problem: gcc
Le 10 juin à 13:22:32 Edward Catmur [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment: On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 12:44 +0200, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory run binutils-config Thank you Edward, looks like binutil-config -d .. did the job! Emerge working again cheers, -- Jean Magnan de Bornier | email: jean-at-bornier.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?
Skype searches for sound daemons, but I notice it never uses them, OSS always (or the emulated OSS under ALSA), maybe will come handy in the future of development. Skype does not search for demons at all, the gentoo sound-wrapper script does. I wouldn't worry about the Linux version dissapear, the FREE version, OH YES, just like Kazaa and its bunch of spyware. Skype will ramain free (they state this on the website, including skype-to-skype calls always), and it is also spyware-free too. Comparing KaZaA and Skype is not a very good comparison at all dude... Besides, if you take a look at the license you agree when you use it (and I am almost a lawyer), taking your freedom away is the least they are doying. You basically agree that they may use your idle bandwidth and CPU time for any anonymous purpose. I won't let them use my computer without me knowing what's going on. Sure, a GREAT software, but FREE?! *lol* don't be fooled, they are getting well paid, believe me. The licence states: quote 4.1 Permission to utilize Your computer. In order to receive the benefits provided by the Skype Software, you hereby grant permission for the Skype Software to utilize the processor and bandwidth of Your computer for the limited purpose of facilitating the communication between You and other Skype Software users. /quote This means (in simple english) that your Skype maintains it's own online status, and uses it's own bandwidth to stay online and in contact with other contacts you have in your list. for the limited purpose of facilitating the communication between You and other Skype Software users does *NOT* mean You basically agree that they may use your idle bandwidth and CPU time for any anonymous purpose at all ~ And you are almost a lawyer you say, p. Ralph Very interesting. It's starting to sound like Skype isn't the devil after all. Is there any other software that will let me make calls to regular phone lines from my Linux computer? Free would be better, but I don't mind proprietary software and per-minute charges if there are no alternatives. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Routing problem
Hi, I'm having a bit trouble to get one computer force to use another route. this are the commands i'm using to create routes route add -net 10.32.16.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 10.32.101.4 dev tun1 route add -host 10.32.16.160 gateway 10.32.101.2 dev tun0 The routes on my gentoo router are: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 10.32.101.4 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 tun1 10.32.101.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 tun0 10.32.16.16010.32.101.2 255.255.255.255 UGH 0 00 tun0 10.32.100.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 0 00 eth1 10.32.26.0 10.32.100.2 255.255.255.0 UG0 00 eth1 10.32.16.0 10.32.101.4 255.255.255.0 UG0 00 tun1 10.32.16.0 10.32.100.2 255.255.255.0 UG0 00 eth1 10.32.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 UG0 00 lo and my tracepath: Tracing route to 10.32.16.160 over a maximum of 30 hops 11 ms1 ms1 ms 10.32.3.51 2 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms 10.32.101.4 3 5 ms 3 ms 3 ms 10.32.16.160 What must i do to change this? TIA Patrick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can't su - to root, etc
My network updates its software every night at midnight. There was a problem with a couple of blocking packages night before last, so I unmerged the two blocking packages and did the emerge -avuD world in a screen. Now they're done and I can no longer su - to root from my personal account. I have to log completely out and then log in as root from the login screen. I use users-admin for my user maintenance, but now there's a tab that says User Privileges where the User's Groups tab used to be, so I can't figure out how to make sure that my personal account is in the right group(s) to su - to root. A lot of things are different now. I keep a gnome-terminal open at all times and it the prompt now shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ when I'm in my home directory instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael $ which I preferred. I could su - to root yesterday while the upgrades were taking place and root's prompt was the same. And then my Inbox Monitor applet is gone, so I have to click on the running evolution button every time I want to see if I have any email (which is quite often actually). Is there any way I can fix all this, or at least get my su - privileges back? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Grant, Grant wrote: Very interesting. It's starting to sound like Skype isn't the devil after all. Is there any other software that will let me make calls to regular phone lines from my Linux computer? Free would be better, but I don't mind proprietary software and per-minute charges if there are no alternatives. ;-) .. That was my point exactly. Skype isn't the devil at all, at least it isn't if you don't have anything against closed-source commercial software. It was not my intention to cause waves, but it does iritate me when closed-source gets bashed right into the ground purely for being closed source/commercial without actually looking at the product itself. To tell you the truth I would also prefer an open-source alternative, however there are none that work as well on all 3 major platforms (yeah, I have friends who use all and skype works great for all of them). However to answer your question as best I can. Basically all software used to phone fixed lines will have some charge or another I believe. Gnomemeeting apparently does this too (since recently) or at least I heard, but I know too little about that to make a judgement. http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3pos=0faqpage=index.html#AEN21 might shed some light (and links) to things you might want to look at if Skype bothers you ;-) I have used gnomemeeting before though, and although it's a great product it had a load of dependencies which deam it in my eyes as not-worth-the-effort, seeing as I don't have gnome installed. This was actually a reason I reccomend Skype to most users who are looking for such a program as it has very few dependencies, and is easy to configure and use. Hope this helps ;-) Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32) iD8DBQFCqbHWAWKxH5yWMT8RAunMAJ9uOrNP3oU+UVVwUBUoZNk+ih9hCgCePZYI U1R6AHMX2mqKxy9clsgFJsE= =7cSE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
--- Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The correction was to replace dev=/dev/cdrom with dev=/dev/hdc. COASTER! Tried booting with the reader drive(Creative 24x DVD) -- it went clunk, clunk, clunk...nothing appeared on the screen but a blinking cursor. Tried booting with the writer drive(the Lite-on) -- no clunking but just a tiny, rectangular happy face next to a blinking cursor at the bottom, middle of the screen. Oh, and I see the unit's crashed into the bargain groan But I *was* able to retrieve the CD, curious. __ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't su - to root, etc
to check in what groups your user is in you can just type $ groups to change the groups, you have to do, as root, % usermod -G [groups] user you have to include all groups in a comma separated list (for example: users,wheel ), I don´t think you can simply add a group... don´t have any ideas as to the cause of the problem, though... hope that´s helpful, On 6/10/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My network updates its software every night at midnight. There was a problem with a couple of blocking packages night before last, so I unmerged the two blocking packages and did the emerge -avuD world in a screen. Now they're done and I can no longer su - to root from my personal account. I have to log completely out and then log in as root from the login screen. I use users-admin for my user maintenance, but now there's a tab that says User Privileges where the User's Groups tab used to be, so I can't figure out how to make sure that my personal account is in the right group(s) to su - to root. A lot of things are different now. I keep a gnome-terminal open at all times and it the prompt now shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ when I'm in my home directory instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael $ which I preferred. I could su - to root yesterday while the upgrades were taking place and root's prompt was the same. And then my Inbox Monitor applet is gone, so I have to click on the running evolution button every time I want to see if I have any email (which is quite often actually). Is there any way I can fix all this, or at least get my su - privileges back? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Rafael Dantas de Castro Engenharia de Computação 2001 - Unicamp - Laboratório de Criptografia Aplicada Se procurar bem você acaba encontrando. Não a explicação (duvidosa) da vida, Mas a poesia (inexplicável) da vida. Carlos Drummond de Andrade -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Bad performance with external USB disk
Richard Fish wrote: Alec Shaner wrote: Once the buffer fills up would you expect it to work fine at 1.2MB/s? I wish I had kept the logs, but it was extremely slow (much slower than 1.2). I was copying a series of ~70MB files over and it would work fine on about the first 5 or so files before croaking. I eventually had to kill the job. From this, I'm guessing your machine has about 512MB of memory. The precise behavior I would expect is: The first 350-450MB of files (5-6 at 70MB each) would read at the speed the filesystem/disk can provide them...in this case it seems about 11MB/sec. So reading the first few files will take 30-40 seconds. At this point, the USB disk will only have written 30-40 MB to disk...leaving 300-400MB left to go. The userspace program (rsync,cp?) at this point will basically stop writing for the next 5 to 7 _minutes_. In other words, you will not see nice smooth transition from 11MB/sec down to 1.2MB/s. It will burst at high-speed for several seconds, then stop for an extended period of time, before resuming again. Ah, that makes sense. The system has 2GB of memory, but what you describe is very similar to what I observed. This of course assumes that there are no hardware problems involved. You may want to check your /var/log/messages file or dmesg output for any timeout or other disk errors being reported during the copy operation. The kernel's reaction to a communication error with a disk is to reset the controller and retry the command. I'm not sure if there is an eventual timeout to this process or not...if there is, it is larger than my personal 'patience timeout'! ;- -Richard I dug around the archived syslog files and found this snippet in there: Jun 3 15:41:04 scream kernel: SCSI device sdb: 312581808 512-byte hdwr sectors (160042 MB) Jun 3 15:41:04 scream kernel: sdb: assuming drive cache: write through Jun 3 15:41:04 scream kernel: /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4 Jun 3 15:41:06 scream kernel: SCSI device sdb: 312581808 512-byte hdwr sectors (160042 MB) Jun 3 15:41:06 scream kernel: sdb: assuming drive cache: write through Jun 3 15:41:06 scream kernel: /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4 Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: SCSI error : 2 0 0 0 return code = 0x7 Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 47188047 Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logical block 47187984 Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sdb1 Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: SCSI error : 2 0 0 0 return code = 0x7 Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 47188048 and so on -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Help with pppconfig
I used the Gentoo install CD and installed the stage 3 tarball. The reboot went fine and I can log in purely console mode. I have only a dialup internet connection but I cannot connect to the internet via the dialup on Gentoo. I did emerge 2 files (that emerge -s pppconfig suggested); pppconfig-2.3.9 and dialog-1.0-20040731.orig.tar.gz. When I run pppconfig as root and click on Create a connection, I get the error message: Internal error: no such thing as *** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: /dev/gpmctl: No such file or directory Create, at /usr/sbin/pppconfig.real line 555. I don't understand what the error message means. I tried to use MAKEDEV to create /dev/gpmctl but it said it didn't know how to make it. I can't make much progress with the install until I get the dialup modem working. Thanks for any help Jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] nxserver-freenx - Is there a client?
Perhaps I'm confused here, but I'm looking int freenx. Using esearch freenx, this was the only item I found: net-misc/nxserver-freenx Now the name of it implies it's just a server, is the client in there too, or is this seperate? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive
On 6/10/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:59:16 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: On 6/10/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CF cards aren't lockable, but some CD-IDE adaptors have a write protect jumper. Of course, you'll have problems saving any settings with a write- protected /etc, so JFFS2 may be a better option. This is a filesystem specifically for flash driver, that avoids repeated writing to the same part of the disk. Or, of course, you could simply mount the filesystem ro. Ah, there's always a smart guy out there. ;-) Why didn't I think of that? Good point! There much be a way to do this sort of thing, again because I have the install CD as an example. For me this is about how to make a quiet MythTV frontend machine, not a 'Gentoo PC.' No hard drive is less noise. My thought was that once the machine was configured I'd like to lock the flash and never write ANYTHING to it. What about the MythTV data? Is that on another box, networked? Exactly. We have a server with lots of storage elsewhere on the network. This flash drive machine has no purpose other than playing that MythTV recordings. It's just a single function box. Although the first unit has a DVD drive in it since I had to build Gentoo from a universal CD I figure that long term I don't even need that since the picture playing a DVD from Myth is nowhere near as good as playing for our DVD players. The only time I'd possibly do anything on the flash was to update the system, maybe once every few months. Other than that if the machine is turned on and playing TV shows then I'd be happy with no logging or any type and the drive doesn't change at all. It sounds like you need something like one of these, which keep the card inside the box, and treat it as a hard disk (but silent). More or less. It could be inside or outside. What I sort of liked about the external USB flash drive was the idea that I could possibly learn to build the distro in a chrooted environment on my laptop, for instance, and then write it to multiple flash drives for multiple boxes. I've set this system up here, but I'm also building units for my parents who live 350 miles away. Right now they have a Gentoo backend and an XBox frontend. If a significant rev of Myth or Gentoo came along my thought was I could write it on one of this little guys, test it here, and then send it to my dad with instructions to power down, replace the old flash drive with the new flash drive, boot up, and he's running again. He sends me back the old flash drive and we can go through that process whenever we want. I could also ftp a new version to his Myth backend box with instructions on how he could overwrite the old drive but if somethig goes wrong then the unit doesn't work at all. Another possibility is to skip the flash drive completely, put in a cheap CD and then build essentially a Gentoo LiveCD that boots the system and starts Myth. No hard drive, no flash drive and probably the cheapest solution. Might be more noisy though if the drive continues to spin forever... Maybe there's instructions out there on how to do this sort of thing but I haven't found them yet. Removing all hard disks would also reduce the amount of heat generated, so you could reduce fan speeds to make it even quieter. Exactly my though. I bought the 512MB flash drive for $42 on sale yesterday. If I remove the hard drive and the DVD drive then a Pundit-R comes out at about $275-$300 which is at least reasonable, but still a lot higher than Tivo which sells the hardware at a loss and then makes it up in subscription costs. (Or so I think...) - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Simscan problem.
Hi all! Does anyone here work with simscan ? (http://www.inter7.com/simscan) According to README file, the order of processing is: email address (overrides all) domain (overrides default) default (only used if not overridden by domain or email address. The problem is that i can't get it working that way. For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:clam=yes,spam=yes,attach=.mp3 mydomain.com:clam=yes,spam=yes,attach=.txt:.exe :clam=yes,spam=yes,spam_hits=20.1 With that configuration, the correct behaviour would be: if [EMAIL PROTECTED] want to send a file with .txt extension, it would be ok, right ? If so, why its not working ? Thanks.. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive
On 6/9/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You say the kernel messages indicate that the flash disk was recognized as sda so I'm not sure why it's not mounting for you. I looked through linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt and saw a rootdelay parameter. With the modules I need a delay for the usb drivers to initialize. Maybe you need that too. Try rootdelay=5 or rootdelay=10 or something. Zac Great call Zac! rootdelay=10 allowed me to boot from the flash drive just fine. I still get absolutely no [OK] messages but the system comes up, I can log in as root or mythtv. I cannot run mythfrontend yet due to missing libraries and things, but it seems pretty fixable so far. Thanks! It's intersting that rc-update show shows all the right info but it seems that possibly very few of the services are really starting. However I do have networking so that's a start. Thanks for doing the reading! - Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nxserver-freenx - Is there a client?
--- fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I'm confused here, but I'm looking int freenx. Using esearch freenx, this was the only item I found: net-misc/nxserver-freenx Now the name of it implies it's just a server, is the client in there too, or is this seperate? I know that the commercial nxclient package is in portage. You can dowload and try it for free. I needed USE=commercial in order to avoid blockage. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] nxserver-freenx ; documentation?
I just installed nxserver-freenx, however it doesn't appear any documents were installed with it. Meaning I have no idea how to even set it up. Any pointers? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive
--- Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great call Zac! rootdelay=10 allowed me to boot from the flash drive Excellent! That's good to know. If you need any help with the PXE I might be able to help with that too since I use pxelinux to boot my diskless node. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to make updates take effect?
I'm realizing that some updates (emerges and etc-updates) won't take effect until a certain daemon is restarted, or perhaps until the system is rebooted. How can I be sure that I do what is necessary for updates to take effect? Is it just a matter of understanding what is being updated so I can restart daemons or reboot as necessary? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 [0.6.12]
Hello, This docbook ebuild seems to fail Ideas on fixes are welcome. I already unmerged then emerge and that did not seem to work around the problem. Maybe some other missing/corrupt package? bugzilla was not any help either emerge -uD world snip make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/man' Making all in HTML make[2]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML' SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \ SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \ jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \ -V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \ SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \ jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \ -V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [api.html] Error 127 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [backend-spec.html] Error 127 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 !!! ERROR: app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 556, Exitcode 2 !!! emake failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. Ideas? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nxserver-freenx ; documentation?
--- fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed nxserver-freenx, however it doesn't appear any documents were installed with it. Meaning I have no idea how to even set it up. Any pointers? You need to run the nxsetup --install and nxkeygen then copy the the generated key to the client. After that you only need sshd running on the server. You can skip the nxkeygen step if you use nxsetup --install --setup-nomachine-key but it is less secure. There is some more info in this howto: http://www.gnomeuser.org/documents/howto/nx.html Apparently there is also a free kde client available but I haven't tried it yet: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2004-December/000553.html Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive
On 6/10/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great call Zac! rootdelay=10 allowed me to boot from the flash drive Excellent! That's good to know. If you need any help with the PXE I might be able to help with that too since I use pxelinux to boot my diskless node. Zac Zac, Thanks. Shall I contact you offline? I tried PXE awhile ago but couldn't get it to work. I'm not sure the old Dell I used as a test box was truly PXE compliant so I was thinking I swhould check out what low cost, Linux-compatible PXE NICs are out there but haven't gotten around to looking yet. I think a pure mythfronteld box could be pretty simple and cheap. So far I've never used more than about 140MB running Myth on this Pundit-R box so I see no reason to go beyond 256MB. PXE would help keep the cost down and the box more quiet. Thanks again, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?
Hi, I'm sorry for the noise I caused, but I want to clarify some things: Skype *is* awesome in terms of any Linux product. It works on almost all major distros out-of-the-box without any configuration needed (firewall included). This cannot be said for apps like gnomemeeting etc... They need severasl ports forwarded before they work properly which is often a PITA for the Linux-newbie. That's right. From a usability point of view it's really a great app. [...] As for removing Skype in the future?? Where do you get your information from? It sounds to me like your personal opinion which is based on nothing more than your pro-gpl / anti-the-rest attitude. Please note that I'm not RMS. I have no problem with commercial software. You do realise that Skype being commercial is a company which like *every* other commercial company *needs* to make money to survive? Of course :) . Their p2p method *will* remain free too, and as for them dropping the Linux version well you do realise that Linux is playing more and more of a major role in the business desktop market right? Currently: yes. Why would they cut their own money-supply off by dropping Linux (which, for the record, they aren't). They will in case Linux will not be this successful as we all expect. That's a normal behaviour for a company, like Adobe dropping Mac support for Framemaker etc. have regular contact with their developers ... I think I would know if they were dropping the Linux support ~ that is unless you know something I don't ? Sorry, their developers will be the last people who know about the business plans of the management :) . Sigh ... another twisted opinion of the word freedom. Dude, it's freedom in terms of free to choose (and to have a choice), rather than as long as it's free (price) AND GPL then it's OK ~ otherwise they are just \abusing\ you. No. I have no problem with the Skype client being closed source software at all. But I have a problem seeing a single company controlling the worldwide IP telkephony with a proprietary protocol. For me it's not that important to have software at no cost, for me it's important to have open file formats and protocols, so there are not only choices today, but I also have a choice tomorrow. And Skype does exactly what I fear: They try to control the VOIP market, and everyone using Skype helps them to reach this goal. As soon as they will open their protocol, I'll immediately change my opinion. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: How to make updates take effect?
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes: I'm realizing that some updates (emerges and etc-updates) won't take effect until a certain daemon is restarted, or perhaps until the system is rebooted. How can I be sure that I do what is necessary for updates to take effect? Is it just a matter of understanding what is being updated so I can restart daemons or reboot as necessary? Well, my experience is that is no 'silver bullet' to answer this question, because there are tens of thousands of different software programs you can run, not to mention lots of different kernel and Window manager environments that may or may not affect the chosen process(es) you are running. Some programs spawn off many child processes that have a life/mind of their own, depending on how the system is setup, threading, and the acutual code that the child process uses. There are many more possible variants, but, hopefully you start to get the picture. 'rc-update show' is a good tool to start with to see what get's started at boot time and by the default run level. Some applications may work correctly with the new version upon env-update source /etc/profile other may need a lower-level jolt to get running correctly. Others, related to the environment, such as KDE, may require killing the app or kill -HUP to get it to restart and run correctly, while others may require you to login out and log back in, if the program depends on your login processes. Others may require extensive process restarting/reinitialization to the point of a system reboot, particularly if it's kernel related or a module that does not correctly load/unload into kernel space Other apps use other obscure interfaces into the Kernel or are individually unique (discourage nowadays but not completely gone). Rebooting should be a last resort. I ususaully try the most not intrusive thing until I get it to work, with a system reboot being of last resort. Best thing to do is to test what's needed for whatever program/process is in question. Many things group together in that they a require similar action to restart/run correctly after tweaking or recompiling. Some Object Oriented code, such as JAVA, suffers from what is know as 'memory leaks' which may not affect a running system/processes for quite some time... I hope these ramblings give you some understaning that the the answer depends on lots of parameters across the space of all processes A specific question about a specific process/program/daemon can be answered with specificity... YMMV James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Commercial software (was: Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?)
Hi, Sorry, an 'awesome' product that truly wanted to support linux would support alsa, esd, and arts sound APIs at a minimum. Yes, that's right. Or at least being an ALSA instead of an OSS client so one has the chance to use DMIX for software mixing. They have choosen OSS because it was easiest to do and works on Linux as well as on other Un*ces. Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't su - to root, etc
Hi, You have to be in 'wheel' group to su - to root, or was this for sudo. check. Could also use 'gpasswd' to add a user to a group, run man gpasswd. HTH. Rumen Rafael Dantas de Castro wrote: to check in what groups your user is in you can just type $ groups to change the groups, you have to do, as root, % usermod -G [groups] user you have to include all groups in a comma separated list (for example: users,wheel ), I don´t think you can simply add a group... don´t have any ideas as to the cause of the problem, though... hope that´s helpful, On 6/10/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My network updates its software every night at midnight. There was a problem with a couple of blocking packages night before last, so I unmerged the two blocking packages and did the emerge -avuD world in a screen. Now they're done and I can no longer su - to root from my personal account. I have to log completely out and then log in as root from the login screen. I use users-admin for my user maintenance, but now there's a tab that says User Privileges where the User's Groups tab used to be, so I can't figure out how to make sure that my personal account is in the right group(s) to su - to root. A lot of things are different now. I keep a gnome-terminal open at all times and it the prompt now shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ when I'm in my home directory instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael $ which I preferred. I could su - to root yesterday while the upgrades were taking place and root's prompt was the same. And then my Inbox Monitor applet is gone, so I have to click on the running evolution button every time I want to see if I have any email (which is quite often actually). Is there any way I can fix all this, or at least get my su - privileges back? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive
--- Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zac, Thanks. Shall I contact you offline? I tried PXE awhile ago but couldn't get it to work. I'm not sure the old Dell I used as a test box was truly PXE compliant so I was thinking I swhould check out what low cost, Linux-compatible PXE NICs are out there but haven't gotten around to looking yet. I think a pure mythfronteld box could be pretty simple and cheap. So far I've never used more than about 140MB running Myth on this Pundit-R box so I see no reason to go beyond 256MB. PXE would help keep the cost down and the box more quiet. Sure, feel free to contact me offline. Actually I can thank the gentoo docs for helping me to get my diskless node running. I found these ones helpful: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/diskless-howto.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ltsp.xml Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 [0.6.12]
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:36:38 + (UTC) James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, This docbook ebuild seems to fail Ideas on fixes are welcome. I already unmerged then emerge and that did not seem to work around the problem. Maybe some other missing/corrupt package? bugzilla was not any help either !!! ERROR: app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 556, Exitcode 2 !!! emake failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. I had the same issue. 'revdep-rebuild' was the answer for me, iirc. -- |\ /| | | ~ ~ | \/ | |---| `|` ? ||ichael | |iggins\^ / michael[dot]higgins[at]snet[dot]net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 [0.6.12]
James wrote: Hello, This docbook ebuild seems to fail Ideas on fixes are welcome. I already unmerged then emerge and that did not seem to work around the problem. Maybe some other missing/corrupt package? bugzilla was not any help either emerge -uD world snip make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/man' Making all in HTML make[2]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML' SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \ SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \ jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \ -V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \ SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \ jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \ -V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [api.html] Error 127 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [backend-spec.html] Error 127 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 !!! ERROR: app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 556, Exitcode 2 !!! emake failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. Ideas? James Hi, Just checked for 'libosp.so..' (not found error above) and on my system it's in: /usr/lib/libosp.so.4.0.0 (it's version 4 BTY) Using 'qpkg' found that it belongs to 'app-text/opensp-1.5.1 (on my system). Later using 'dep -r openjade' found that 'opensp' is a dependency of openjade, which is a dependency of 'docbook-sgml-utils'. opensp---openjade---docbook-sgml-utils. So could try rebuilding first opensp, then openjade then try again. Could also check with 'revdep-rebuild'. HTH. Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
[gentoo-user] portage behaviour
Hi, Seems that portage is getting more and more clever ;) For some time after emerging or unmerging a package, had to rebuild some packages which had a dependency (USE-flag) on that package. Ex. added 'postgresql' and had to rebuild some packages which have such flag. Yesterday replaced 'fam' with 'gamin' (unmerged fam) and today have to rebuild 'courier-imap' with -fam' USE-flag. Result: now using 'emerge -DNu world -ptv' to check my upgrades (-N == --newuse). x86-system with some ~x86. HTH. Rumen smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] nxserver-freenx ; documentation?
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 10:52 -0700, Zac Medico wrote: --- fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed nxserver-freenx, however it doesn't appear any documents were installed with it. Meaning I have no idea how to even set it up. Any pointers? You need to run the nxsetup --install and nxkeygen then copy the the generated key to the client. After that you only need sshd running on the server. You can skip the nxkeygen step if you use nxsetup --install --setup-nomachine-key but it is less secure. There is some more info in this howto: http://www.gnomeuser.org/documents/howto/nx.html Apparently there is also a free kde client available but I haven't tried it yet: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2004-December/000553.html Thanks for the docs. I got as far as logging in, and it says authentication completed. Then after about a minute or more, it says the session timed out. /var/log/nxserver.log never shows anything. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [WOT] Commercial software
Ralph Slooten wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Fish wrote: So, from what you just said and the previous comments on this thread, I can assume that Skype only supports the obsolete OSS API for sound? Sorry, an 'awesome' product that truly wanted to support linux would support alsa, esd, and arts sound APIs at a minimum. Correct. It only supports OSS for the time being. Don't you have oss emulation enabled? Skype is not the only product to not have alsa support yet. As for the sound daemons, well that is what the wrappers are for. Actually, no, I don't enable OSS emulation, because AFAICT it locks the entire sound card to exactly one process...whether you have a hardware mixing card or not. And the dmix plugin doesn't help. You are correct about many other applications being stuck at OSS also, VMWare being the one that annoys me the most at the moment. But in the VMWare example, sound is not the core functionality of the product, so I can forgive that, for one more version. Wrappers are nothing but a hack. An effective hack to be sure, but a poor substitute for native support. Besides, _every_ open source program that anybody cares about supports at least 2 of those outputs besides OSS. It really can't be that hard! Correct. I still don't see where the skype will start charging soon comes in though... Well, if that was the specific statement that you objected to, then yes, I agree with your point. There is no particular reason to believe that the product would be withdrawn or the price raised due to increased adoption on Linux. I should point out that I am _not_ in any way opposed to commercial software on LInux. I don't even mind paying for software that provides me with real value, although I _do_ expect the company to make a serious effort. I have very little direct knowledge of Skype (I don't use VOIP, maybe after I upgrade to a nicer cave!), so I am certainly not attacking them or saying they are bad guys. It may very well be that they will bring additional value to Linux for large numbers of customers...and that would be a Good Thing! It's just that with the various things going on in law and technology, from software patents to removal of features through forced 'updates' to DRM schemes, I think we as consumers need to be very vigilant regarding what actions we let companies get away with. Cheers, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Neil Bothwick wrote: You can put a lot of this into /etc/defaults/cdrecord, to save (mis) typing it every time. Cool, thanks. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Help with pppconfig
--- Jerry Turba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used the Gentoo install CD and installed the stage 3 tarball. The reboot went fine and I can log in purely console mode. I have only a dialup internet connection but I cannot connect to the internet via the dialup on Gentoo. I did emerge 2 files (that emerge -s pppconfig suggested); pppconfig-2.3.9 and dialog-1.0-20040731.orig.tar.gz. When I run pppconfig as root and click on Create a connection, I get the error message: Internal error: no such thing as *** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]: /dev/gpmctl: No such file or directory Create, at /usr/sbin/pppconfig.real line 555. Hi Jerry, It is a socket that is only available when gpm is running. Try /etc/init.d/gpm start. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Bad performance with external USB disk
Alec Shaner wrote: Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: SCSI error : 2 0 0 0 return code = 0x7 Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 47188047 Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logical block 47187984 Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sdb1 Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: SCSI error : 2 0 0 0 return code = 0x7 Jun 3 15:48:16 scream kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 47188048 Ouch, that looks bad. You should compile in Verbose SCSI Error Reporting in your kernel, which will decode that 0x7 for you. Otherwise, you'll have to go read the SCSI spec... Once you have done that, I would do a read test of the entire disk with dd (preferably on the fast computer!) to see you have a hard error at those sectors or not. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: COASTER! Well, you could try again adding speed=0 to the command, before the name of the ISO. That will drop the burning speed to the lowest possible level, and may be more reliably. But maybe your burner is broken (?) So, this friend of yours with the broadband and the working burner...are you planning on seeing him/her soon? ;- -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] freenx-nxserver fun continued: nxproxy port
Okay so I got this nxserver stuff going fine. I can connect to the server machine over its ssh port. But then it seems that something called nxproxy is trying to connect from the client, to the server, on TCP port 5000. I've looked for documents or a config file for nxproxy, because I can't use that port. This network does not allow outgoing ports except on a ver few ports. Does anyone know how to get nxproxy to use a different port? Or better yet, not use nxproxy at all? Curiously nxproxy --help gets me this: nxproxy --help Error: Cannot open NX transport library 'libXcomp.so.1.4.0'. Error is 'libXcomp.so.1.4.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 [0.6.12]
James wrote: Hello, This docbook ebuild seems to fail Ideas on fixes are welcome. I already unmerged then emerge and that did not seem to work around the problem. Maybe some other missing/corrupt package? bugzilla was not any help either emerge -uD world snip make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/man' Making all in HTML make[2]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML' SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \ SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \ jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \ -V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \ SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \ jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \ -V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [api.html] Error 127 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [backend-spec.html] Error 127 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 !!! ERROR: app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 556, Exitcode 2 !!! emake failed !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. Ideas? emerge openjade then continue the emerge -uD world James -- Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.igoe.me.uk - Personal Site http://tv.igoe.me.uk - UK TV Guide Computers are like Air-con, open windows and they stop working! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware problem
Thanks for the help everyone. The RAM was the problem, even though it didn't appear to be in incorrectly, after I pushed them in a little harder, the computer booted up all right. The cables are right next to the RAM, it must have gotten a little dislodged. Thanks again Bill __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
possible level, and may be more reliably. But maybe your burner is broken (?) No, it's fine. Still under warranty. Works fine under WinXP. The reason I mentioned broadband is because big files(like install isos and pkg cds) can be downloaded in minutes instead of days. I can certainly download and burn small(ish) files using my home kit and my trusty old 56kUSR ext modem(after squeezing a signal through 8 mi of phone line!) -- as long as I do it in WinXP; remember? it occupies /dev/hda1. I can even emerge stuff from the net with gentoo up; it's just that during all this downloading and emerging there is no phone. Perhaps our correspondent's grub update plan is the way to go. Does emerge know enough to re re grub without leaving too many loose ends. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] freenx-nxserver fun continued: nxproxy port
--- fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay so I got this nxserver stuff going fine. I can connect to the server machine over its ssh port. But then it seems that something called nxproxy is trying to connect from the client, to the server, on TCP port 5000. I've looked for documents or a config file for nxproxy, because I can't use that port. This network does not allow outgoing ports except on a ver few ports. That's lame. Does anyone know how to get nxproxy to use a different port? Or better yet, not use nxproxy at all? Curiously nxproxy --help gets me this: nxproxy --help Error: Cannot open NX transport library 'libXcomp.so.1.4.0'. Error is 'libXcomp.so.1.4.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory'. LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/NX/lib nxproxy --help Error: NX transport initialization failed. Hmm, it doesn't seem to be well documented. The default ports are documented here: http://www.nomachine.com/documentation/html/admin-guide.html Zac __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 06:17:06PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote PAM is an *optional* dependency; you can compile the program -pam and PAM is an *OPTIONAL PROGRAM*; build your system with... [m450][root][~]cat /etc/portage/package.mask sys-libs/pam in addition to -pam in use, and you will find Gentoo a lot more pleasant. One question... why does OpenOffice *DEMAND* PAM to build from source??? The binary ebuild installs OK without PAM. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI gives me the following... scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'HITACHI ' 'DVD-ROM GD-5000 ' '0110' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) 'SONY' 'CD-RW CRX100E ' '1.0m' Removable CD-ROM 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * I copy/move a bunch of files into directory xfer, and burn an ISO with the following script... #!/bin/sh mkisofs -R -J xfer | cdrecord -tao -v fs=8m -data dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 - Piping direct from mkisofs avoids creating, and then deleting, a physical ISO file. It does give a warning message because, with input from stdin, cdrecord has no way of telling in advance whether it'll fit onto the CD. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] /dev=ATAPI versus /dev=ATA
Going off on a bit of a tangent here, and re-naming the subject. If I execute cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI, the system spins its wheels for several seconds, and I get... Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling on-the-fly encryption (version 1.0-rc1) built-in, (C) 2004,2005 Maximilian Decker NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to burbon04 at gmx.de. For more information please see http://burbon04.gmxhome.de/linux/CDREncryption.html. The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r9 cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. scsidev: 'ATAPI' devname: 'ATAPI' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Using ATA Packet interface. Warning: The related Linux kernel interface code seems to be unmaintained. Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow. Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) 'HITACHI ' 'DVD-ROM GD-5000 ' '0110' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) 'SONY' 'CD-RW CRX100E ' '1.0m' Removable CD-ROM 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * However, cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA also works and gives *IMMEDIATE* response. The output is very similar... Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling on-the-fly encryption (version 1.0-rc1) built-in, (C) 2004,2005 Maximilian Decker NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to burbon04 at gmx.de. For more information please see http://burbon04.gmxhome.de/linux/CDREncryption.html. The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r9 cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. scsidev: 'ATA' devname: 'ATA' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'HITACHI ' 'DVD-ROM GD-5000 ' '0110' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) 'SONY' 'CD-RW CRX100E ' '1.0m' Removable CD-ROM 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * Has anyone tried something like... mkisofs -R -J xfer | cdrecord -tao -v fs=8m -data dev=ATA:0,1,0 - instead of mkisofs -R -J xfer | cdrecord -tao -v fs=8m -data dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 - -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: possible level, and may be more reliably. But maybe your burner is broken (?) No, it's fine. Still under warranty. Works fine under WinXP. If you have a FAT partition for sharing files between Linux and XP, you could copy the ISO to there and burn it under XP. A USB flash memory device would also work for the transfer. Perhaps our correspondent's grub update plan is the way to go. Does emerge know enough to re re grub without leaving too many loose ends. You are certainly welcome to try, whether it is download the source directly from gnu.org or upgrading via emerge. I have my doubts as to whether that will help any though. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error
Ramón Gutiérrez wrote: go to */ect/make.conf* and add *ACCEPTS_KEYWORDS=~x86 * case sensitive Rarely, if ever, will the above be a good solution to any problem like this. To the original poster: You're problem is because you're trying to install a hard masked version of proftpd, which requires an unstable version of pam. You have two options, as I see it: 1.) install the x86 version of proftpd, which is what I'd do 2.) add net-ftp/proftpd -pam to /etc/portage/package.use and then try the emerge again. -- Kyle England kengland at gentoo dot org Gentoo Infrastructure GnuPG public key ID: 0xC342D18B (pgp.mit.edu) Key Fingerprint: 0130 DF85 DE10 5953 0D50 B51E EC75 ABDF C342 D18B signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] intel gma900 and linux
Hi, what about buying a notebook with intel's 915 chipset which doesn't use any ati or nvidia-card but the integrated intel-thing called GMA900. I can't find any ebuild in portage, but there are drivers for linux on intel's support page. They seem to be at least for linux 2.4 - and perhaps for 2.6 too. Are the available driver compatible with Linux 2.6? Which X.Org driver would work? Is the 2D-performance OK? Did anybody manage to get 3D-Acceleration to work? Thx Sven -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Routing problem
On Friday 10 June 2005 09:19, Patrick Marquetecken wrote: Hi, I'm having a bit trouble to get one computer force to use another route. this are the commands i'm using to create routes route add -net 10.32.16.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 10.32.101.4 dev tun1 route add -host 10.32.16.160 gateway 10.32.101.2 dev tun0 The routes on my gentoo router are: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 10.32.101.4 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 tun1 10.32.101.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 tun0 10.32.16.16010.32.101.2 255.255.255.255 UGH 0 0 0 tun0 10.32.100.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 0 0 0 eth1 10.32.26.0 10.32.100.2 255.255.255.0 UG0 0 0 eth1 10.32.16.0 10.32.101.4 255.255.255.0 UG0 0 0 tun1 10.32.16.0 10.32.100.2 255.255.255.0 UG0 0 0 eth1 10.32.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 UG0 00 lo Wow, that's an interesting route table. Off the bat, I'd say that the duplicate entries for the 10.32.16.0/32 are causing you grief here. It also looks like you have a typo in your second entry (if your above statement was correct) in the third quad of your gateway in this entry: 10.32.16.0/32 -- 10.32.100.2. Also that entry is set for eth1 and if that's a tunnel it should be set for tun{x} iirc. I'm not going to comment on the rest of the table as I don't know the whole story ;) --James -- --This Message Powered by Linux-- --Registered Linux User #227032-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Routing problem
... duplicate entries for the 10.32.16.0/32 are causing you grief here. It also looks like you have a typo in your second entry (if your above statement was correct) in the third quad of your gateway in this entry: 10.32.16.0/32 -- 10.32.100.2. ... I'm sorry, both of those should read 10.32.16.0/24. --James -- --This Message Powered by Linux-- --Registered Linux User 227032-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge of netkit-rsh
When I emerge netkit-rsh (because I want to share a tape via rmt) I get several warning such as: QA Notice: /usr/bin/rlogin is setXid, dynamically linked and using lazy bindings. This combination is generally discouraged. Try: CFLAGS='-Wl,-z,now' emerge netkit-rsh Which seems pretty reasonable - I would rather not use dynamic libs on a suid program... but my command line was: # CFLAGS='-Wl,-z,now' emerge netkit-rsh as the warning suggests :-/ So what is the best way to get emerge to build things in with the recommended compile options? Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 [0.6.12]
Tim Igoe tim at igoe.me.uk writes: emerge openjade then continue the emerge -uD world Thanks everyone for the answers. these 2 commands seem to have clean up the email of the sgml-utils problem. Thanks, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Can't build OpenSSH, requires Perl 5
I'm compiling my system (emerge -env system), but when it gets down to building OpenSSH, it fails, saying You need Perl 5. Pretending and checking the tree shows that Perl 5 will be emerged later on during the install. Attempting to emerge -v perl attempts to emerge svgalib as well (since I haven't built the system), which fails saying that the kernel has not been configured yet. Any ideas? -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't build OpenSSH, requires Perl 5
Colin wrote: I'm compiling my system (emerge -env system), but when it gets down to building OpenSSH, it fails, saying You need Perl 5. Pretending and checking the tree shows that Perl 5 will be emerged later on during the install. Attempting to emerge -v perl attempts to emerge svgalib as well (since I haven't built the system), which fails saying that the kernel has not been configured yet. Any ideas? -- Colin I ran into the same glitch on a new system. The only way I was able to get around that was to blank out my USE= in /etc/make.conf. I realized afterwards that I could have accomplished the same by: USE=*- emerge -v perl Cheers. -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't build OpenSSH, requires Perl 5
--- Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Colin wrote: I'm compiling my system (emerge -env system), but when it gets down to building OpenSSH, it fails, saying You need Perl 5. Pretending and checking the tree shows that Perl 5 will be emerged later on during the install. Attempting to emerge -v perl attempts to emerge svgalib as well (since I haven't built the system), which fails saying that the kernel has not been configured yet. Any ideas? -- Colin I ran into the same glitch on a new system. The only way I was able to get around that was to blank out my USE= in /etc/make.conf. I realized afterwards that I could have accomplished the same by: USE=*- emerge -v perl More drastic than my solution but it could be necessary. I've seen USE=-* more commonly but maybe they're equivalent. I believe emerge --nodeps does basically the same thing. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't build OpenSSH, requires Perl 5
--- Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that I've been thinking about it for a while, if OpenSSH needs Perl, shouldn't Perl be built before OpenSSH? This seems like an ebuild bug to me. openssh depends on autoconf which depends on perl. Apparently you have autoconf but not perl. Is perl really not there? There is a related bug here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70984 Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge of netkit-rsh
On Saturday 11 June 2005 04:46, Digby Tarvin wrote: When I emerge netkit-rsh (because I want to share a tape via rmt) I get several warning such as: QA Notice: /usr/bin/rlogin is setXid, dynamically linked and using lazy bindings. This combination is generally discouraged. Try: CFLAGS='-Wl,-z,now' emerge netkit-rsh Which seems pretty reasonable - I would rather not use dynamic libs on a suid program... but my command line was: # CFLAGS='-Wl,-z,now' emerge netkit-rsh as the warning suggests :-/ So what is the best way to get emerge to build things in with the recommended compile options? Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.digbyt.com I think it should be LDFLAGS, not CFLAGS: LDFLAGS='Wl,-z,now' emerge netkit-rsh Ciao Francesco -- Linux Version 2.6.11-gentoo-r9, Compiled #1 Wed Jun 8 05:32:03 2005 CEST One 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 Processor, 2GB RAM, 4325.37 Bogomips Total aemaeth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list