Re: [gentoo-user] plain-vanilla ethernet; do brands matter?

2005-06-10 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 12:27 -0400, A. Khattri wrote:
 On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 
  El-Cheapo cards will work, but may not be as full-featured or as fast
  throughput as the more expensive 3com cards. eg: USD6 Dlink vs USD25
  3com.
 
 Speaking from the server side of the fence, we swear by Intel eepro cards.

Yep.. Generally, it's You Get What You Paid For

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[gentoo-user] warning libxxxxx.la has moved

2005-06-10 Thread Graham Murray
When watching emerges, I sometimes see libtool display warnings of the
form 'libxxx.la has moved'. The resultant packages seem to run OK, so
is this something to worry about, should it be fixed or just ignored?
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:27:05 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:

 If so, then we are ready to proceed with burning.  Here is the command
 that I use:
 
 cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -immed -eject driveropt=burnfree file.iso
 
 If your drive doesn't support burnfree, just take out the whole
 driveropt=burnfree part.

You can put a lot of this into /etc/defaults/cdrecord, to save (mis)
typing it every time.

 But, something just occurred to medoes this system have 2 CD
 burners, or a burner and a reader?  If not, you will have much trouble
 to burn a CD while running off the live cd.

There is a boot option to copy the contents of the live CD to a RAMdisk,
something like docache, which allows you to eject the CD after booting.
It also makes working from the live CD a lot faster, eliminating those
annoying delays as it searches the CD for a command.


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I really ought to sell it.
It never does just what I want
But only what I tell it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Commercial software (was: Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?)

2005-06-10 Thread Richard Fish
Ralph Slooten wrote:

 The only real issues (sound) I have come across with users are mainly
 Gentoo users who use the ebuilds, which in term uses a self-created
 sound-wrapper file which unfortunately does not work with everyone.


So, from what you just said and the previous comments on this thread, I
can assume that Skype only supports the obsolete OSS API for sound? 
Sorry, an 'awesome' product that truly wanted to support linux would
support alsa, esd, and arts sound APIs at a minimum.

 As for removing Skype in the future?? Where do you get your information
 from? It sounds to me like your personal opinion which is based on
 nothing more than your pro-gpl / anti-the-rest attitude.


History has shown that commercial software and Linux have a difficult
relationship at best:

1. Adobe Acrobat Reader was stuck at the crappy version 5 for years. 
The supported Linux long enough to be able to reasonably claim
cross-platform support, but then their priorities changed.  Only
recently have their priorities changed again.

2. ATI.  Their 'support' would be laughable, if I didn't have one of
their products in my laptop.  Won't be making *that* mistake again.

3. Bitkeeper.

 You do realise that Skype being commercial is a company which like
 *every* other commercial company *needs* to make money to survive? Their


True, but supporting a Linux client takes resources and money.  Business
priorities change, and some suit could very easily decide that the linux
client is not their core business value or some such crap.

 Sigh ... another twisted opinion of the word freedom. Dude, it's
 freedom in terms of free to choose (and to have a choice), rather than
 as long as it's free (price) AND GPL then it's OK ~ otherwise they are
 just \abusing\ you.


For the record, I don't live in the 'free software' camp, but I am glad
they exist.  It has nothing to do with restricting choices to GPL
software, but with not giving up real freedom in the name of convenience.

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-free.html

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?

2005-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 21:11:47 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:

 I don't myself use cdrecord directly all that often, but I did manage to
 remember
 
cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus
 
 which produced this output:
 
[snip]

 scsibus0:
   0,0,0 0) '_NEC' 'DVD_RW ND-2510A ' '2.15'
 Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0  1) *
   0,2,0 2) *
   0,3,0 3) *
   0,4,0 4) *
   0,5,0 5) *
   0,6,0 6) *
   0,7,0 7) *
 
 so the correct syntax to access my burner would be

 cdrecord dev=0,0,0 whatever comes after that.

That would be dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 - otherwise it will look for the first
SCSI device. 



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error Bad interpretor

2005-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 23:43:16 +0100, Ognjen Bezanov wrote:

 Sorry I didnt get that reply. Either way to answer that question, no - i
 do not have the noexec option in my fstab (where the drive is
 automounted). This is the line in my fstab:
 
 /dev/hda6   /mnt/storage   reiserfs   notail,exec,user

The user option sets noexec by default, and it appears the options are
processed in order, so user turns off the exec you have just set. Switch
the order of the user and exec options and it should work.

Use mount2 on its own to see whether exec or noexec is actually set.


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[gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?

2005-06-10 Thread Remy Blank


Mark Knecht wrote:
 On 6/9/05, Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alternatively, you could setup syslog-ng to send the logs to another
machine.
 
I don't know about this. I seem to have gone backwards:
 
 1) If I turn off syslog-ng then it seems that the drive never spinds
 up, so I guess at the root it's a syslog-ng issue.

That makes sense.

 2) When I re-enabled syslog-ng it now started spinning up every 10
 minutes, where it used to spin up once an hour.

Is that with block_dump enabled? Then it is normal. Writes to the log
file by syslog-ng, for all the WRITE and dirtied inode entries will
be buffered, and flushed to disk every 600s (commit=600 in mount), i.e.
10 minutes.

If it's with block_dump disabled, then I don't know.

 I think I'd do jsut as well to put the log file on the MythTV backend
 machine and make it mountable as an NFS mount. That just means a bit
 of network traffic every 10 minutes, right? I'm planning on placing
 the major portion of portage on an NFS mount also so that the frontend
 box doesn't carry that file load and I only have to burden the net
 with 5 downloads a day. I guess my use of Gentoo has gotten large
 enough that I need to start doing stuff like that.

Logging over NFS is ok, but you could directly log to the syslog-ng
daemon of the backend machine. For this, you need to setup a destination
on your MythTV machine:

  destination backend { tcp(192.168.1.1, 514); };

where you should replace 192.168.1.1 by the IP address of the backend,
and use that destination instead of the current file destination, for
example:

  log { source(src); destination(backend); };

On the backend, you need to add a tcp entry to the source directive:

source src {
unix-stream(/dev/log);
pipe(/proc/kmsg);
tcp(0.0.0.0, 514);
internal();
};

Finally, you'll have to open your firewall to allow incoming connections
on the backend to port 514 (if you have a firewall on the backend). You
could also use UDP if it's more convenient for you.

-- Remy


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[gentoo-user] The One TRUE Hostname / Domainname Assignation Method

2005-06-10 Thread Aniruddha Shankar
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Just upgraded my baselayout and noticed the deprecation of
/etc/dnsdomainname in favour of /etc/conf.d/domainname .

Unless I follow the instructions [1]  on Gentoo-wiki.com and in
/etc/hosts point 127.0.0.1 to my FQDN first in apparent contravention of
the hosts manpage, which says that the numeric address should first
point to the canonical hostname in /etc/hosts, my machines all return
localhost when I issue the command hostname -f . In addition, the login
string on my console is somethng like this :

This is awaaz.(none) 

Can we PLEASE, once and for all, have a canonical, authoritative,
categorical explanation on how to set the hostname, the domainname and
the FQDN for machines with and without static IPs?

Cheers,
Aniruddha Karim Shankar
New Delhi, India

[1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Setup_Your_FQDN
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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?

2005-06-10 Thread Ralph Slooten
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Daniel da Veiga wrote:
 Skype searches for sound daemons, but I notice it never uses them, OSS
 always (or the emulated OSS under ALSA), maybe will come handy in the
 future of development.

Skype does not search for demons at all, the gentoo sound-wrapper script
does.

 I wouldn't worry about the Linux version dissapear, the FREE version,
 OH YES, just like Kazaa and its bunch of spyware.

Skype will ramain free (they state this on the website, including
skype-to-skype calls always), and it is also spyware-free too. Comparing
KaZaA and Skype is not a very good comparison at all dude...

 Besides, if you take a look at the license you agree when you use it
 (and I am almost a lawyer), taking your freedom away is the least they
 are doying. You basically agree that they may use your idle bandwidth
 and CPU time for any anonymous purpose. I won't let them use my
 computer without me knowing what's going on. Sure, a GREAT software,
 but FREE?! *lol* don't be fooled, they are getting well paid, believe
 me.

The licence states:
quote
4.1 Permission to utilize Your computer. In order to receive the
benefits provided by the Skype Software, you hereby grant permission for
the Skype Software to utilize the processor and bandwidth of Your
computer for the limited purpose of facilitating the communication
between You and other Skype Software users.
/quote

This means (in simple english) that your Skype maintains it's own online
status, and uses it's own bandwidth to stay online and in contact with
other contacts you have in your list.

for the limited purpose of facilitating the communication between You
and other Skype Software users does *NOT* mean You basically agree
that they may use your idle bandwidth and CPU time for any anonymous
purpose at all ~ And you are almost a lawyer you say, p.

Ralph
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system

2005-06-10 Thread Alexander Skwar
Matt Place wrote:
 Check out emwrap in the forums:
 
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474-highlight-emwrap.html
 
 With emwrap you can rebuild your entire system, including the
 toolchain, correctly.
 Hope it helps, I think it's great.

Hm. I just checked it out and have to agree - it's quite helpful.
I've got a problem, though.

Because I did not have enough space in /var/tmp/portage, the build
failed. How do I make emwrap.sh continue the build?

To start, I ran:

emwrap.sh -uDwbe

This did rebuild a lot but then failed (not enough space). The emwrap.sh
help has:

   -c, contContinues emwrap from where it stoped. To use rerun the same 
command
 and add c and emwrap will start from where it stop without haveing 
rebuild
 everything before. This is the same as --resume in emerge.

But how do I use this? I tried

emwrap.sh -uDwbec

This only printed a list of packages. I suppose those, that are in
/tmp/emwrap/failed.lst.

Did I do something wrong?

Thanks,

Alexander Skwar
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[gentoo-user] sys-libs/pam-0.78-r2: ERROR: pam_access have dependencies in /usr.

2005-06-10 Thread Alexander Skwar
Hi!

I'm trying to compile sys-libs/pam-0.78-r2 and get the
following error:

/bin/install -c -m 755 pam_xauth.so 
/var/tmp/portage/pam-0.78-r2/image//lib/security
test -d /var/tmp/portage/pam-0.78-r2/image//usr/share/man/man8 || mkdir -p 
/var/tmp/portage/pam-0.7
2/image//usr/share/man/man8
/bin/install -c -m 644 pam_xauth.8 
/var/tmp/portage/pam-0.78-r2/image//usr/share/man/man8/
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/pam-0.78-r2/work/Linux-PAM-0.78/modules/pam_xauth'
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/pam-0.78-r2/work/Linux-PAM-0.78/modules'
 * Checking if all modules were built...

 * ERROR: pam_access have dependencies in /usr.


!!! ERROR: sys-libs/pam-0.78-r2 failed.


What's that supposed to mean?

Thanmks,

Alexander Skwar
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[gentoo-user] Compilation problem: gcc

2005-06-10 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Hello all,
I have a strange error doing an 'emerge -uD world':

 Source unpacked.
./configure --prefix=/usr --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man 
--infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc 
--localstatedir=/var/lib
creating cache ./config.cache
checking whether to use symlinks for manpages... no
checking whether to compress the manpages... no
checking whether to add a package name suffix for the manpages... no
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe ) works... no
configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot 
create executables.
...
Here is the config.log:
...
This file contains any messages produced by compilers while
running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake.

configure:579: checking whether to use symlinks for manpages
configure:591: checking whether to compress the manpages
configure:614: checking whether to add a package name suffix for the manpages
configure:642: checking for gcc
configure:755: checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe ) works
configure:771: gcc -o conftest -O2 -mcpu=i686 -pipe   conftest.c  15
gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory
cc1: Broken pipe: error closing -
configure: failed program was:

#line 766 configure
#include confdefs.h

main(){return(0);}
work/tcl8.4.9/unix/config.log (END)


If I try an individual package, I have a failure also, but with a
different message depending on the package.

Thanks for any help
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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables blocks ssh

2005-06-10 Thread Antonio Coralles
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org wrote:

 On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Antonio Coralles wrote:

 I've recently turned my workstation into a router for my laptop, using
 the great gentoo home router guide. Everthing is ok so far, with one
 exception: I can't connect to my ssh server anymore from outside the
 LAN, becuase iptables seems to prevent this, allthough i
 # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -i eth1 -j ACCEPT .

 The ordering of the rules is important. Perhaps you can provide more
 context by showing us the rules preceding the one above?

Well, this is a hot tip. I think that the order in which I entered my
iptables rules is the same as in
'http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml code Listing 5.3',
whith the exception that
I entered '# iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -i eth1 -j ACCEPT'
after the nat rules. I'll try to reenter them in the correct order ...

Thanks,
Antonio
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive

2005-06-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/10/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 01:28:40 -0400, Colin wrote:
 
  Probably.  You can save space with a compressed
  filesystem like jjfs or squashfs.  You probably want
  to mount it read only since flash has limited write
  cycles.
 
  Kind of off on a tangent, but there are other alternatives to a
  write-protected file system.  Instead of using a USB flash disk, there
  are IDE-CompactFlash adapters that would achieve the same result but
  with 100% IDE compatibility, so the disk just shows up as /dev/hd[x]
  like a normal hard drive and doesn't require any rootdelaying or USB
  drivers.  I don't know if CF cards are lockable, I know SD's are.
 
 CF cards aren't lockable, but some CD-IDE adaptors have a write protect
 jumper. Of course, you'll have problems saving any settings with a write-
 protected /etc, so JFFS2 may be a better option. This is a filesystem
 specifically for flash driver, that avoids repeated writing to the same
 part of the disk.

For me this is about how to make a quiet MythTV frontend machine, not
a 'Gentoo PC.' No hard drive is less noise. My thought was that once
the machine was configured I'd like to lock the flash and never write
ANYTHING to it. The only time I'd possibly do anything on the flash
was to update the system, maybe once every few months. Other than that
if the machine is turned on and playing TV shows then I'd be happy
with no logging or any type and the drive doesn't change at all.

Longer term maybe PXE booting is a better solution but my first
attempts at that haven't worked well. This was conceived as an
experiment to see if a Pundit-R with nothing more than a processor 
memory added to it internally could suffice as a Myth frontend using
this external flash drive.

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compilation problem: gcc

2005-06-10 Thread Edward Catmur
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 12:44 +0200, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
 gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory

run binutils-config

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Re: [gentoo-user] tracking ebuilds

2005-06-10 Thread Aaron Walker
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Zac Medico wrote:

 I would check the ebuild changelogs and
 bugs.gentoo.org.  There's also program called herdstat
 that you can use to query information about package
 maintainers (I merged it but haven't tried it yet).

herdstat's lame :)

To answer the OP's question, no there is no mailing list for this kind of
stuff.  The best thing to do is setup your bugzilla account to watch people
or herds for which you are interested in.  For example, apache bugs are
assigned to [EMAIL PROTECTED], so you should setup bugzilla to watch that
alias.  You will then get all bugzilla mail that goes to that alias.

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive

2005-06-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:59:16 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

 On 6/10/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  CF cards aren't lockable, but some CD-IDE adaptors have a write
  protect jumper. Of course, you'll have problems saving any settings
  with a write- protected /etc, so JFFS2 may be a better option. This
  is a filesystem specifically for flash driver, that avoids repeated
  writing to the same part of the disk.

Or, of course, you could simply mount the filesystem ro.

 For me this is about how to make a quiet MythTV frontend machine, not
 a 'Gentoo PC.' No hard drive is less noise. My thought was that once
 the machine was configured I'd like to lock the flash and never write
 ANYTHING to it.

What about the MythTV data? Is that on another box, networked?

 The only time I'd possibly do anything on the flash
 was to update the system, maybe once every few months. Other than that
 if the machine is turned on and playing TV shows then I'd be happy
 with no logging or any type and the drive doesn't change at all.

It sounds like you need something like one of these, which keep the
card inside the box, and treat it as a hard disk (but silent).
 
Removing all hard disks would also reduce the amount of heat generated,
so you could reduce fan speeds to make it even quieter.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling the whole system

2005-06-10 Thread Matt Place
Good question. Unfortunately I haven't used that feature yet.  Your
best bet will probably be to post to emwrap's support thread.  hielvc
is the one who created emwrap, he'll be best at helping figure out
your particular situation.  You may want to check before you post
because chances are good that someone has already had  a similar
problem.  That said...according to :

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-emwrap-start-100.html#2343016

it looks to me like you are using -c (--resume) correctly.  As I said
before you may want to post your question their. I had many problems
with the script running on my box, which is partly my fault, but
that's besides the point.  Once I was able to get the script to work
correctly it was great, the benefits are well worth the time spent.
  
Hope this helps.

-Matt-

On 6/10/05, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matt Place wrote:
  Check out emwrap in the forums:
 
  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-282474-highlight-emwrap.html
 
  With emwrap you can rebuild your entire system, including the
  toolchain, correctly.
  Hope it helps, I think it's great.
 
 Hm. I just checked it out and have to agree - it's quite helpful.
 I've got a problem, though.
 
 Because I did not have enough space in /var/tmp/portage, the build
 failed. How do I make emwrap.sh continue the build?
 
 To start, I ran:
 
 emwrap.sh -uDwbe
 
 This did rebuild a lot but then failed (not enough space). The emwrap.sh
 help has:
 
-c, contContinues emwrap from where it stoped. To use rerun the same 
 command
  and add c and emwrap will start from where it stop without haveing 
 rebuild
  everything before. This is the same as --resume in emerge.
 
 But how do I use this? I tried
 
 emwrap.sh -uDwbec
 
 This only printed a list of packages. I suppose those, that are in
 /tmp/emwrap/failed.lst.
 
 Did I do something wrong?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] Shell Script runs fine directly, fails in crontab

2005-06-10 Thread Alin Dobre
On 6/2/05, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-06-02 at 14:54 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
  Sometimes there are environmental differences that are not immediately
  obvious between executing a command at the shell vs. within a cron task.
 
  A great hint I saw was to use the 'sys-process/at' package's command to
  schedule the script to run some time in the future.  Then go to the
  /var/spool/at/atjobs folder to find a new script that has the environment
  configured correctly from the environment used to schedule the job.
 
  Use that script in your cron task to have a correct environment for the cron
  task.
 
  Dave
 
 Guess I'll give that a shot at some point. Might sourcing /etc/profile
 help?

invoking a login shell will cause loading all your environmental
variables correctly. so, instead of invoking
/path/to/shell.sh
use
sh -l /path/to/shell.sh

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[gentoo-user] Error emerging gnome2-print

2005-06-10 Thread Jules Colding
Hi,

I got the following error while doing emerge gnome2-print:


##

omc-1 ~ # emerge --resume
*** Resuming merge...
 emerge (1 of 1) dev-perl/gnome2-print-0.61 to /
 md5 files   ;-) gnome2-print-0.94.ebuild
 md5 files   ;-) gnome2-print-0.61.ebuild
 md5 files   ;-) ChangeLog
 md5 files   ;-) metadata.xml
 md5 files   ;-) files/digest-gnome2-print-0.61
 md5 files   ;-) files/digest-gnome2-print-0.94
 md5 src_uri ;-) Gnome2-Print-0.61.tar.gz
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking Gnome2-Print-0.61.tar.gz to 
 /var/tmp/portage/gnome2-print-0.61/work
 Source unpacked.
Subroutine const_cccmd redefined at 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux/Glib/MakeHelper.pm line 509.
Loaded 17 type definitions from maps
2 GBoxed
1 GEnum
1 GFlags
6 GObject
7 GtkObject
Including ApiDoc pod...
 *** Can't load dependency information for Gnome2:
   Can't locate Gnome2/Install/Files.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i686-linux 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5 /usr/local/lib/site_perl 
.) at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/ExtUtils/Depends.pm line 170.

make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

!!! ERROR: dev-perl/gnome2-print-0.61 failed.
!!! Function perl-module_src_compile, Line 107, Exitcode 2
!!! compilation failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Compilation problem: gcc

2005-06-10 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 10 juin à 13:22:32 Edward Catmur [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment:

 On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 12:44 +0200, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
 gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `as': No such file or directory

 run binutils-config
Thank you Edward, looks like binutil-config -d .. did the job!
Emerge working again
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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?

2005-06-10 Thread Grant
  Skype searches for sound daemons, but I notice it never uses them, OSS
  always (or the emulated OSS under ALSA), maybe will come handy in the
  future of development.
 
 Skype does not search for demons at all, the gentoo sound-wrapper script
 does.
 
  I wouldn't worry about the Linux version dissapear, the FREE version,
  OH YES, just like Kazaa and its bunch of spyware.
 
 Skype will ramain free (they state this on the website, including
 skype-to-skype calls always), and it is also spyware-free too. Comparing
 KaZaA and Skype is not a very good comparison at all dude...
 
  Besides, if you take a look at the license you agree when you use it
  (and I am almost a lawyer), taking your freedom away is the least they
  are doying. You basically agree that they may use your idle bandwidth
  and CPU time for any anonymous purpose. I won't let them use my
  computer without me knowing what's going on. Sure, a GREAT software,
  but FREE?! *lol* don't be fooled, they are getting well paid, believe
  me.
 
 The licence states:
 quote
 4.1 Permission to utilize Your computer. In order to receive the
 benefits provided by the Skype Software, you hereby grant permission for
 the Skype Software to utilize the processor and bandwidth of Your
 computer for the limited purpose of facilitating the communication
 between You and other Skype Software users.
 /quote
 
 This means (in simple english) that your Skype maintains it's own online
 status, and uses it's own bandwidth to stay online and in contact with
 other contacts you have in your list.
 
 for the limited purpose of facilitating the communication between You
 and other Skype Software users does *NOT* mean You basically agree
 that they may use your idle bandwidth and CPU time for any anonymous
 purpose at all ~ And you are almost a lawyer you say, p.
 
 Ralph

Very interesting.  It's starting to sound like Skype isn't the devil
after all.  Is there any other software that will let me make calls to
regular phone lines from my Linux computer?  Free would be better, but
I don't mind proprietary software and per-minute charges if there are
no alternatives.

- Grant

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[gentoo-user] Routing problem

2005-06-10 Thread Patrick Marquetecken
Hi,

I'm having a bit trouble to get one computer force to use another route.

this are the commands i'm using to create routes
route add -net 10.32.16.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 10.32.101.4 dev tun1
route add -host 10.32.16.160 gateway 10.32.101.2 dev tun0

The routes on my  gentoo router are:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface
10.32.101.4 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00 tun1
10.32.101.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00 tun0
10.32.16.16010.32.101.2 255.255.255.255 UGH   0  00 tun0
10.32.100.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 0  00 eth1
10.32.26.0  10.32.100.2 255.255.255.0   UG0  00 eth1
10.32.16.0  10.32.101.4 255.255.255.0   UG0  00 tun1
10.32.16.0  10.32.100.2 255.255.255.0   UG0  00 eth1
10.32.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0   U 0  00 eth0
127.0.0.0   127.0.0.1   255.0.0.0   UG0  00 lo

and my tracepath:
Tracing route to 10.32.16.160 over a maximum of 30 hops
  11 ms1 ms1 ms  10.32.3.51
  2 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms  10.32.101.4
  3 5 ms 3 ms 3 ms  10.32.16.160

What must i do to change this?

TIA
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[gentoo-user] Can't su - to root, etc

2005-06-10 Thread Michael Sullivan
My network updates its software every night at midnight.  There was a
problem with a couple of blocking packages night before last, so I
unmerged the two blocking packages and did the emerge -avuD world in a
screen.  Now they're done and I can no longer su - to root from my
personal account.  I have to log completely out and then log in as root
from the login screen.  I use users-admin for my user maintenance, but
now there's a tab that says User Privileges where the User's Groups
tab used to be, so I can't figure out how to make sure that my personal
account is in the right group(s) to su - to root.  A lot of things are
different now.  I keep a gnome-terminal open at all times and it the
prompt now shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ when I'm in my home directory
instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael $ which I preferred.  I could su - to
root yesterday while the upgrades were taking place and root's prompt
was the same.  And then my Inbox Monitor applet is gone, so I have to
click on the running evolution button every time I want to see if I have
any email (which is quite often actually).  Is there any way I can fix
all this, or at least get my su - privileges back?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?

2005-06-10 Thread Ralph Slooten
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Hi Grant,

Grant wrote:
 Very interesting.  It's starting to sound like Skype isn't the devil
 after all.  Is there any other software that will let me make calls to
 regular phone lines from my Linux computer?  Free would be better, but
 I don't mind proprietary software and per-minute charges if there are
 no alternatives.

;-) .. That was my point exactly. Skype isn't the devil at all, at least
it isn't if you don't have anything against closed-source commercial
software. It was not my intention to cause waves, but it does iritate me
when closed-source gets bashed right into the ground purely for being
closed source/commercial without actually looking at the product itself.

To tell you the truth I would also prefer an open-source alternative,
however there are none that work as well on all 3 major platforms (yeah,
I have friends who use all and skype works great for all of them).

However to answer your question as best I can. Basically all software
used to phone fixed lines will have some charge or another I believe.
Gnomemeeting apparently does this too (since recently) or at least I
heard, but I know too little about that to make a judgement.
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3pos=0faqpage=index.html#AEN21
might shed some light (and links) to things you might want to look at if
Skype bothers you ;-) I have used gnomemeeting before though, and
although it's a great product it had a load of dependencies which deam
it in my eyes as not-worth-the-effort, seeing as I don't have gnome
installed. This was actually a reason I reccomend Skype to most users
who are looking for such a program as it has very few dependencies, and
is easy to configure and use.

Hope this helps ;-)
Ralph
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-10 Thread maxim wexler


--- Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The correction was to replace dev=/dev/cdrom with
 dev=/dev/hdc.

COASTER! 

Tried booting with the reader drive(Creative 24x DVD)
-- it went clunk, clunk, clunk...nothing appeared on
the screen but a blinking cursor.

Tried booting with the writer drive(the Lite-on) -- no
clunking but just a tiny, rectangular happy face next
to a blinking cursor at the bottom, middle of the
screen.

Oh, and I see the unit's crashed into the bargain
groan But I *was* able to retrieve the CD, curious.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't su - to root, etc

2005-06-10 Thread Rafael Dantas de Castro
to check in what groups your user is in you can just type
$ groups

to change the groups, you have to do, as root,
% usermod -G [groups] user

you have to include all groups in a comma separated list (for example:
users,wheel ), I don´t think you can simply add a group...

don´t have any ideas as to the cause of the problem, though...

hope that´s helpful,

On 6/10/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My network updates its software every night at midnight.  There was a
 problem with a couple of blocking packages night before last, so I
 unmerged the two blocking packages and did the emerge -avuD world in a
 screen.  Now they're done and I can no longer su - to root from my
 personal account.  I have to log completely out and then log in as root
 from the login screen.  I use users-admin for my user maintenance, but
 now there's a tab that says User Privileges where the User's Groups
 tab used to be, so I can't figure out how to make sure that my personal
 account is in the right group(s) to su - to root.  A lot of things are
 different now.  I keep a gnome-terminal open at all times and it the
 prompt now shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ when I'm in my home directory
 instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael $ which I preferred.  I could su - to
 root yesterday while the upgrades were taking place and root's prompt
 was the same.  And then my Inbox Monitor applet is gone, so I have to
 click on the running evolution button every time I want to see if I have
 any email (which is quite often actually).  Is there any way I can fix
 all this, or at least get my su - privileges back?
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Bad performance with external USB disk

2005-06-10 Thread Alec Shaner
Richard Fish wrote:
 Alec Shaner wrote:
 
 
Once the buffer fills up would you expect it to work fine at 1.2MB/s? I
wish I had kept the logs, but it was extremely slow (much slower than
1.2). I was copying a series of ~70MB files over and it would work fine
on about the first 5 or so files before croaking. I eventually had to
kill the job.
 

 
 
 From this, I'm guessing your machine has about 512MB of memory.
 
 The precise behavior I would expect is:
 
 The first 350-450MB of files (5-6 at 70MB each) would read at the speed
 the filesystem/disk can provide them...in this case it seems about
 11MB/sec.  So reading the first few files will take 30-40 seconds.  At
 this point, the USB disk will only have written 30-40 MB to
 disk...leaving 300-400MB left to go.  The userspace program (rsync,cp?)
 at this point will basically stop writing for the next 5 to 7 _minutes_.
 
 In other words, you will not see nice smooth transition from 11MB/sec
 down to 1.2MB/s.  It will burst at high-speed for several seconds, then
 stop for an extended period of time, before resuming again.

Ah, that makes sense. The system has 2GB of memory, but what you
describe is very similar to what I observed.

 
 This of course assumes that there are no hardware problems involved. 
 You may want to check your /var/log/messages file or dmesg output for
 any timeout or other disk errors being reported during the copy
 operation.  The kernel's reaction to a communication error with a disk
 is to reset the controller and retry the command.  I'm not sure if there
 is an eventual timeout to this process or not...if there is, it is
 larger than my personal 'patience timeout'! ;-
 
 -Richard
 
 
 

I dug around the archived syslog files and found this snippet in there:

Jun  3 15:41:04 scream kernel: SCSI device sdb: 312581808 512-byte hdwr
sectors (160042 MB)
Jun  3 15:41:04 scream kernel: sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
Jun  3 15:41:04 scream kernel:  /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2
p3 p4
Jun  3 15:41:06 scream kernel: SCSI device sdb: 312581808 512-byte hdwr
sectors (160042 MB)
Jun  3 15:41:06 scream kernel: sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
Jun  3 15:41:06 scream kernel:  /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2
p3 p4
Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: SCSI error : 2 0 0 0 return code = 0x7
Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector
47188047
Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logical
block 47187984
Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sdb1
Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: SCSI error : 2 0 0 0 return code = 0x7
Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector
47188048

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[gentoo-user] Help with pppconfig

2005-06-10 Thread Jerry Turba

I used the Gentoo install CD and installed the stage 3 tarball. The
reboot went fine and I can log in purely console mode. I have only a
dialup internet connection but I cannot connect to the internet via the 
dialup

on Gentoo. I did emerge 2 files (that emerge -s pppconfig suggested);
pppconfig-2.3.9 and dialog-1.0-20040731.orig.tar.gz. When I run
pppconfig as root and click on Create a connection,   I get the error
message:

Internal error: no such thing as *** err [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
/dev/gpmctl: No such file or directory Create, at
/usr/sbin/pppconfig.real line 555.

I don't understand what the error message means. I tried to use MAKEDEV
to create /dev/gpmctl but it said it didn't know how to make it.

I can't make much progress with the install until I get the dialup modem
working.

Thanks for any help

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[gentoo-user] nxserver-freenx - Is there a client?

2005-06-10 Thread fire-eyes
Perhaps I'm confused here, but I'm looking int freenx. Using esearch
freenx, this was the only item I found:

net-misc/nxserver-freenx

Now the name of it implies it's just a server, is the client in there
too, or is this seperate?

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive

2005-06-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/10/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 03:59:16 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 
  On 6/10/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   CF cards aren't lockable, but some CD-IDE adaptors have a write
   protect jumper. Of course, you'll have problems saving any settings
   with a write- protected /etc, so JFFS2 may be a better option. This
   is a filesystem specifically for flash driver, that avoids repeated
   writing to the same part of the disk.
 
 Or, of course, you could simply mount the filesystem ro.

Ah, there's always a smart guy out there. ;-) Why didn't I think of
that? Good point! There much be a way to do this sort of thing, again
because I have the install CD as an example.



 
  For me this is about how to make a quiet MythTV frontend machine, not
  a 'Gentoo PC.' No hard drive is less noise. My thought was that once
  the machine was configured I'd like to lock the flash and never write
  ANYTHING to it.
 
 What about the MythTV data? Is that on another box, networked?

Exactly. We have a server with lots of storage elsewhere on the
network. This flash drive machine has no purpose other than playing
that MythTV recordings. It's just a single function box. Although the
first unit has a DVD drive in it since I had to build Gentoo from a
universal CD I figure that long term I don't even need that since the
picture playing a DVD from Myth is nowhere near as good as playing for
our DVD players.

 
  The only time I'd possibly do anything on the flash
  was to update the system, maybe once every few months. Other than that
  if the machine is turned on and playing TV shows then I'd be happy
  with no logging or any type and the drive doesn't change at all.
 
 It sounds like you need something like one of these, which keep the
 card inside the box, and treat it as a hard disk (but silent).

More or less. It could be inside or outside. What I sort of liked
about the external USB flash drive was the idea that I could possibly
learn to build the distro in a chrooted environment on my laptop, for
instance, and then write it to multiple flash drives for multiple
boxes. I've set this system up here, but I'm also building units for
my parents who live 350 miles away. Right now they have a Gentoo
backend and an XBox frontend. If a significant rev of Myth or Gentoo
came along my thought was I could write it on one of this little guys,
test it here,  and then send it to my dad with instructions to power
down, replace the old flash drive with the new flash drive, boot up,
and he's running again. He sends me back the old flash drive and we
can go through that process whenever we want.

I could also ftp a new version to his Myth backend box with
instructions on how he could overwrite the old drive but if somethig
goes wrong then the unit doesn't work at all.

Another possibility is to skip the flash drive completely, put in a
cheap CD and then build essentially a Gentoo LiveCD that boots the
system and starts Myth. No hard drive, no flash drive and probably the
cheapest solution. Might be more noisy though if the drive continues
to spin forever...

Maybe there's instructions out there on how to do this sort of thing
but I haven't found them yet.

 
 Removing all hard disks would also reduce the amount of heat generated,
 so you could reduce fan speeds to make it even quieter.
 

Exactly my though. I bought the 512MB flash drive for $42 on sale
yesterday. If I remove the hard drive and the DVD drive then a
Pundit-R comes out at about $275-$300 which is at least reasonable,
but still a lot higher than Tivo which sells the hardware at a loss
and then makes it up in subscription costs. (Or so I think...)

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[gentoo-user] Simscan problem.

2005-06-10 Thread posix

Hi all!

Does anyone here work with simscan ? (http://www.inter7.com/simscan)

According to README file, the order of processing is:

email address (overrides all)
domain (overrides default)
default (only used if not overridden by domain or email address.

The problem is that i can't get it working that way.
For example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:clam=yes,spam=yes,attach=.mp3
mydomain.com:clam=yes,spam=yes,attach=.txt:.exe
:clam=yes,spam=yes,spam_hits=20.1

With that configuration, the correct behaviour would be: if 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] want to send a file with .txt extension, it would be 
ok, right ?


If so, why its not working ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive

2005-06-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/9/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You say the kernel messages indicate that the flash
 disk was recognized as sda so I'm not sure why it's
 not mounting for you.  I looked through
 linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt and saw a
 rootdelay parameter.  With the modules I need a
 delay for the usb drivers to initialize.  Maybe you
 need that too.  Try rootdelay=5 or rootdelay=10 or
 something.
 
 Zac
 

Great call Zac! rootdelay=10 allowed me to boot from the flash drive
just fine. I still get absolutely no [OK] messages but the system
comes up, I can log in as root or mythtv. I cannot run mythfrontend
yet due to missing libraries and things, but it seems pretty fixable
so far. Thanks!

It's intersting that rc-update show shows all the right info but it
seems that possibly very few of the services are really starting.
However I do have networking so that's a start.

Thanks for doing the reading!

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Re: [gentoo-user] nxserver-freenx - Is there a client?

2005-06-10 Thread Zac Medico


--- fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps I'm confused here, but I'm looking int
 freenx. Using esearch
 freenx, this was the only item I found:
 
 net-misc/nxserver-freenx
 
 Now the name of it implies it's just a server, is
 the client in there
 too, or is this seperate?
 

I know that the commercial nxclient package is in
portage.  You can dowload and try it for free.  I
needed USE=commercial in order to avoid blockage.

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[gentoo-user] nxserver-freenx ; documentation?

2005-06-10 Thread fire-eyes
I just installed nxserver-freenx, however it doesn't appear any
documents were installed with it. Meaning I have no idea how to even set
it up.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive

2005-06-10 Thread Zac Medico


--- Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Great call Zac! rootdelay=10 allowed me to boot from
 the flash drive

Excellent! That's good to know.  If you need any help
with the PXE I might be able to help with that too
since I use pxelinux to boot my diskless node.

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[gentoo-user] How to make updates take effect?

2005-06-10 Thread Grant
I'm realizing that some updates (emerges and etc-updates) won't take
effect until a certain daemon is restarted, or perhaps until the
system is rebooted.  How can I be sure that I do what is necessary for
updates to take effect?  Is it just a matter of understanding what is
being updated so I can restart daemons or reboot as necessary?

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[gentoo-user] docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 [0.6.12]

2005-06-10 Thread James
Hello,

This docbook ebuild seems to fail Ideas on fixes
are welcome. I already unmerged then emerge and that
did not seem to work around the problem. Maybe some other
missing/corrupt package? bugzilla was not any help
either

emerge -uD world
snip
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/man'
Making all in HTML
make[2]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML'
SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \
SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \
jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \
-V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml
SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \
SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \
jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \
-V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml
jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [api.html] Error 127
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [backend-spec.html] Error 127
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR: app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 556, Exitcode 2
!!! emake failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.


Ideas?


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Re: [gentoo-user] nxserver-freenx ; documentation?

2005-06-10 Thread Zac Medico


--- fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just installed nxserver-freenx, however it doesn't
 appear any
 documents were installed with it. Meaning I have no
 idea how to even set
 it up.
 
 Any pointers?
 

You need to run the nxsetup --install and nxkeygen
then copy the the generated key to the client.  After
that you only need sshd running on the server.

You can skip the nxkeygen step if you use nxsetup
--install --setup-nomachine-key but it is less
secure.

There is some more info in this howto:
http://www.gnomeuser.org/documents/howto/nx.html

Apparently there is also a free kde client available
but I haven't tried it yet: 
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2004-December/000553.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive

2005-06-10 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/10/05, Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 --- Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Great call Zac! rootdelay=10 allowed me to boot from
  the flash drive
 
 Excellent! That's good to know.  If you need any help
 with the PXE I might be able to help with that too
 since I use pxelinux to boot my diskless node.
 
 Zac
 

Zac,
   Thanks. Shall I contact you offline? I tried PXE awhile ago but
couldn't get it to work. I'm not sure the old Dell I used as a test
box was truly PXE compliant so I was thinking I swhould check out what
low cost, Linux-compatible PXE NICs are out there but haven't gotten
around to looking yet.

   I think a pure mythfronteld box could be pretty simple and cheap.
So far I've never used more than about 140MB running Myth on this
Pundit-R box so I see no reason to go beyond 256MB. PXE would help
keep the cost down and the box more quiet.

Thanks again,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?

2005-06-10 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi,


I'm sorry for the noise I caused, but I want to clarify some 
things:

 Skype *is* awesome in terms of any Linux product. It works
 on almost all major distros out-of-the-box without any
 configuration needed (firewall included). This cannot be
 said for apps like gnomemeeting etc... They need severasl
 ports forwarded before they work properly which is often a
 PITA for the Linux-newbie.

That's right. From a usability point of view it's really a 
great app.

[...]

 As for removing Skype in the future?? Where do you get your
 information from? It sounds to me like your personal
 opinion which is based on nothing more than your pro-gpl /
 anti-the-rest attitude.

Please note that I'm not RMS. I have no problem with 
commercial software.

 You do realise that Skype being commercial is a company
 which like *every* other commercial company *needs* to make
 money to survive?

Of course :) .

 Their p2p method *will* remain free too, 
 and as for them dropping the Linux version well you do
 realise that Linux is playing more and more of a major role
 in the business desktop market right?

Currently: yes.

 Why would they cut 
 their own money-supply off by dropping Linux (which, for
 the record, they aren't).

They will in case Linux will not be this successful as we all 
expect. That's a normal behaviour for a company, like Adobe 
dropping Mac support for Framemaker etc.

 have regular contact with their developers ... I think I
 would know if they were dropping the Linux support ~ that
 is unless you know something I don't ?

Sorry, their developers will be the last people who know about 
the business plans of the management :) .

 Sigh ... another twisted opinion of the word freedom.
 Dude, it's freedom in terms of free to choose (and to
 have a choice), rather than as long as it's free (price)
 AND GPL then it's OK ~ otherwise they are just \abusing\
 you.

No. I have no problem with the Skype client being closed 
source software at all.

But I have a problem seeing a single company controlling the 
worldwide IP telkephony with a proprietary protocol.

For me it's not that important to have software at no cost, 
for me it's important to have open file formats and 
protocols, so there are not only choices today, but I also 
have a choice tomorrow. And Skype does exactly what I fear: 
They try to control the VOIP market, and everyone using Skype 
helps them to reach this goal.

As soon as they will open their protocol, I'll immediately 
change my opinion.


Best regards


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[gentoo-user] Re: How to make updates take effect?

2005-06-10 Thread James
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes:


 I'm realizing that some updates (emerges and etc-updates) won't take
 effect until a certain daemon is restarted, or perhaps until the
 system is rebooted.  How can I be sure that I do what is necessary for
 updates to take effect?  Is it just a matter of understanding what is
 being updated so I can restart daemons or reboot as necessary?


Well, my experience is that is no 'silver bullet' to answer this question,
because there are tens of thousands of different software programs you can
run, not to mention lots of different kernel and Window manager environments
that may or may not affect the chosen process(es) you are running. Some programs
spawn off many child processes that have a life/mind of their own, depending
on how the system is setup, threading, and the acutual code that the
child process uses. There are many more possible variants, but, hopefully
you start to get the picture.

'rc-update show' is a good tool to start with to see what get's started
at boot time and by the default run level.

Some applications may work correctly with the new version upon env-update 
 source /etc/profile other may need a lower-level jolt to get running
correctly.

Others, related to the environment, such as KDE, may require killing the app
or kill -HUP to get it to restart and run correctly, while others may require
you to login out and log back in, if  the program depends on your login
processes. Others may require extensive process restarting/reinitialization to
the point of a system reboot, particularly if it's kernel related or a module
that does not correctly load/unload into kernel space

Other apps use other obscure interfaces into the  Kernel or  are
individually unique (discourage nowadays but not completely gone). 
Rebooting should be a last resort. I ususaully try
the most not intrusive thing until I get it to work, with a system reboot
being of last resort.

Best thing to do is to test what's needed for whatever program/process
is in question. Many things group together in that they a require similar
action to restart/run correctly after tweaking or recompiling.

Some Object Oriented code, such as JAVA, suffers from what is know as
'memory leaks' which may not affect a running system/processes for quite
some time...

I hope these ramblings give you some understaning that the the answer
depends on lots of parameters  across the space of all processes

A specific question about a specific process/program/daemon can be answered
with specificity...

YMMV

James

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Commercial software (was: Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?)

2005-06-10 Thread Christoph Eckert

Hi,

 Sorry, an 'awesome' product
 that truly wanted to support linux would support alsa, esd,
 and arts sound APIs at a minimum.

Yes, that's right. Or at least being an ALSA instead of an OSS 
client so one has the chance to use DMIX for software mixing.

They have choosen OSS because it was easiest to do and works 
on Linux as well as on other Un*ces.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't su - to root, etc

2005-06-10 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
You have to be in 'wheel' group to su - to root, or was this for sudo.
check.
Could also use 'gpasswd' to add a user to a group, run man gpasswd.
HTH. Rumen
Rafael Dantas de Castro wrote:

to check in what groups your user is in you can just type
$ groups

to change the groups, you have to do, as root,
% usermod -G [groups] user

you have to include all groups in a comma separated list (for example:
users,wheel ), I don´t think you can simply add a group...

don´t have any ideas as to the cause of the problem, though...

hope that´s helpful,

On 6/10/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

My network updates its software every night at midnight.  There was a
problem with a couple of blocking packages night before last, so I
unmerged the two blocking packages and did the emerge -avuD world in a
screen.  Now they're done and I can no longer su - to root from my
personal account.  I have to log completely out and then log in as root
from the login screen.  I use users-admin for my user maintenance, but
now there's a tab that says User Privileges where the User's Groups
tab used to be, so I can't figure out how to make sure that my personal
account is in the right group(s) to su - to root.  A lot of things are
different now.  I keep a gnome-terminal open at all times and it the
prompt now shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ when I'm in my home directory
instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] michael $ which I preferred.  I could su - to
root yesterday while the upgrades were taking place and root's prompt
was the same.  And then my Inbox Monitor applet is gone, so I have to
click on the running evolution button every time I want to see if I have
any email (which is quite often actually).  Is there any way I can fix
all this, or at least get my su - privileges back?


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem booting from a USB flash drive

2005-06-10 Thread Zac Medico


--- Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Zac,
Thanks. Shall I contact you offline? I tried PXE
 awhile ago but
 couldn't get it to work. I'm not sure the old Dell I
 used as a test
 box was truly PXE compliant so I was thinking I
 swhould check out what
 low cost, Linux-compatible PXE NICs are out there
 but haven't gotten
 around to looking yet.
 
I think a pure mythfronteld box could be pretty
 simple and cheap.
 So far I've never used more than about 140MB running
 Myth on this
 Pundit-R box so I see no reason to go beyond 256MB.
 PXE would help
 keep the cost down and the box more quiet.
 

Sure, feel free to contact me offline.  Actually I can
thank the gentoo docs for helping me to get my
diskless node running.  I found these ones helpful:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/diskless-howto.xml
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ltsp.xml

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Re: [gentoo-user] docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 [0.6.12]

2005-06-10 Thread michael higgins
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 17:36:38 + (UTC)
James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 This docbook ebuild seems to fail Ideas on fixes
 are welcome. I already unmerged then emerge and that
 did not seem to work around the problem. Maybe some other
 missing/corrupt package? bugzilla was not any help
 either


 !!! ERROR: app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 failed.
 !!! Function src_compile, Line 556, Exitcode 2
 !!! emake failed
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
 message.
 

I had the same issue. 'revdep-rebuild' was the answer for me, iirc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 [0.6.12]

2005-06-10 Thread Rumen Yotov
James wrote:

Hello,

This docbook ebuild seems to fail Ideas on fixes
are welcome. I already unmerged then emerge and that
did not seem to work around the problem. Maybe some other
missing/corrupt package? bugzilla was not any help
either

emerge -uD world
snip
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/man'
Making all in HTML
make[2]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML'
SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \
SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \
jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \
-V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml
SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \
SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \
jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \
-V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml
jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [api.html] Error 127
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared
object file: No such file or directory
make[2]: *** [backend-spec.html] Error 127
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR: app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 556, Exitcode 2
!!! emake failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.


Ideas?


James

  

Hi,
Just checked for 'libosp.so..' (not found error above) and on my system
it's in:
 /usr/lib/libosp.so.4.0.0 (it's version 4 BTY)
Using 'qpkg' found that it belongs to 'app-text/opensp-1.5.1 (on my
system).
Later using 'dep -r openjade' found that 'opensp' is a dependency of
openjade,
which is a dependency of 'docbook-sgml-utils'.
opensp---openjade---docbook-sgml-utils.
So could try rebuilding first opensp, then openjade then try again.
Could also check with 'revdep-rebuild'.
HTH. Rumen


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[gentoo-user] portage behaviour

2005-06-10 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
Seems that portage is getting more and more clever ;)
For some time after emerging or unmerging a package, had to rebuild some
packages which had a dependency (USE-flag) on that package. Ex. added
'postgresql' and had to rebuild some packages which have such flag.
Yesterday replaced 'fam' with 'gamin' (unmerged fam) and today have to
rebuild 'courier-imap' with -fam' USE-flag.
Result: now using 'emerge -DNu world -ptv' to check my upgrades (-N ==
--newuse). x86-system with some ~x86.
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Re: [gentoo-user] nxserver-freenx ; documentation?

2005-06-10 Thread fire-eyes
On Fri, 2005-06-10 at 10:52 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
 
 --- fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I just installed nxserver-freenx, however it doesn't
  appear any
  documents were installed with it. Meaning I have no
  idea how to even set
  it up.
  
  Any pointers?
  
 
 You need to run the nxsetup --install and nxkeygen
 then copy the the generated key to the client.  After
 that you only need sshd running on the server.
 
 You can skip the nxkeygen step if you use nxsetup
 --install --setup-nomachine-key but it is less
 secure.
 
 There is some more info in this howto:
 http://www.gnomeuser.org/documents/howto/nx.html
 
 Apparently there is also a free kde client available
 but I haven't tried it yet: 
 http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/freenx-knx/2004-December/000553.html

Thanks for the docs. I got as far as logging in, and it says
authentication completed. Then after about a minute or more, it says the
session timed out. /var/log/nxserver.log never shows anything.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [WOT] Commercial software

2005-06-10 Thread Richard Fish
Ralph Slooten wrote:

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 Richard Fish wrote:

 So, from what you just said and the previous comments on this thread, I
 can assume that Skype only supports the obsolete OSS API for sound?
 Sorry, an 'awesome' product that truly wanted to support linux would
 support alsa, esd, and arts sound APIs at a minimum.


 Correct. It only supports OSS for the time being. Don't you have oss
 emulation enabled? Skype is not the only product to not have alsa
 support yet. As for the sound daemons, well that is what the wrappers
 are for.


Actually, no, I don't enable OSS emulation, because AFAICT it locks the
entire sound card to exactly one process...whether you have a hardware
mixing card or not.   And the dmix plugin doesn't help.

You are correct about many other applications being stuck at OSS also,
VMWare being the one that annoys me the most at the moment.  But in the
VMWare example, sound is not the core functionality of the product, so I
can forgive that, for one more version.

Wrappers are nothing but a hack.  An effective hack to be sure, but a
poor substitute for native support.

Besides, _every_ open source program that anybody cares about supports
at least 2 of those outputs besides OSS.  It really can't be that hard!

 Correct. I still don't see where the skype will start charging soon
 comes in though...


Well, if that was the specific statement that you objected to, then yes,
I agree with your point.  There is no particular reason to believe that
the product would be withdrawn or the price raised due to increased
adoption on Linux.

I should point out that I am _not_ in any way opposed to commercial
software on LInux.  I don't even mind paying for software that provides
me with real value, although I _do_ expect the company to make a serious
effort.  I have very little direct knowledge of Skype (I don't use VOIP,
maybe after I upgrade to a nicer cave!), so I am certainly not attacking
them or saying they are bad guys.  It may very well be that they will
bring additional value to Linux for large numbers of customers...and
that would be a Good Thing!

It's just that with the various things going on in law and technology,
from software patents to removal of features through forced 'updates' to
DRM schemes, I think we as consumers need to be very vigilant regarding
what actions we let companies get away with.

Cheers,

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-10 Thread Richard Fish
Neil Bothwick wrote:

You can put a lot of this into /etc/defaults/cdrecord, to save (mis)
typing it every time.

  


Cool, thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help with pppconfig

2005-06-10 Thread Zac Medico


--- Jerry Turba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I used the Gentoo install CD and installed the stage
 3 tarball. The
 reboot went fine and I can log in purely console
 mode. I have only a
 dialup internet connection but I cannot connect to
 the internet via the 
 dialup
 on Gentoo. I did emerge 2 files (that emerge -s
 pppconfig suggested);
 pppconfig-2.3.9 and dialog-1.0-20040731.orig.tar.gz.
 When I run
 pppconfig as root and click on Create a
 connection,   I get the error
 message:
 
 Internal error: no such thing as *** err
 [lib/liblow.c(329)]:
 /dev/gpmctl: No such file or directory Create, at
 /usr/sbin/pppconfig.real line 555.
 

Hi Jerry,

It is a socket that is only available when gpm is
running.  Try /etc/init.d/gpm start.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Bad performance with external USB disk

2005-06-10 Thread Richard Fish
Alec Shaner wrote:

Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: SCSI error : 2 0 0 0 return code = 0x7
Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector
47188047
Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sdb1, logical
block 47187984
Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sdb1
Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: SCSI error : 2 0 0 0 return code = 0x7
Jun  3 15:48:16 scream kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector
47188048
  


Ouch, that looks bad.  You should compile in Verbose SCSI Error
Reporting in your kernel, which will decode that 0x7 for you. 
Otherwise, you'll have to go read the SCSI spec...

Once you have done that, I would do a read test of the entire disk with
dd (preferably on the fast computer!) to see you have a hard error at
those sectors or not.

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-10 Thread Richard Fish
maxim wexler wrote:

 COASTER!


Well, you could try again adding speed=0 to the command, before the
name of the ISO.  That will drop the burning speed to the lowest
possible level, and may be more reliably.  But maybe your burner is
broken (?)

So, this friend of yours with the broadband and the working burner...are
you planning on seeing him/her soon? ;-

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[gentoo-user] freenx-nxserver fun continued: nxproxy port

2005-06-10 Thread fire-eyes
Okay so I got this nxserver stuff going fine. I can connect to the
server machine over its ssh port. But then it seems that something
called nxproxy is trying to connect from the client, to the server, on
TCP port 5000.

I've looked for documents or a config file for nxproxy, because I can't
use that port. This network does not allow outgoing ports except on a
ver few ports.

Does anyone know how to get nxproxy to use a different port? Or better
yet, not use nxproxy at all?

Curiously nxproxy --help gets me this:

nxproxy --help
Error: Cannot open NX transport library 'libXcomp.so.1.4.0'. Error is
'libXcomp.so.1.4.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory'.


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Re: [gentoo-user] docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 [0.6.12]

2005-06-10 Thread Tim Igoe

James wrote:
 Hello,
 
 This docbook ebuild seems to fail Ideas on fixes
 are welcome. I already unmerged then emerge and that
 did not seem to work around the problem. Maybe some other
 missing/corrupt package? bugzilla was not any help
 either
 
 emerge -uD world
 snip
 make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/man'
 Making all in HTML
 make[2]: Entering directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML'
 SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \
 SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \
 jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \
 -V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml
 SGML_CATALOG_FILES=/etc/sgml/catalog \
 SGML_SEARCH_PATH=../..:../../doc:.. \
 jade -t sgml -i html -d ../../docbook-utils.dsl\#html \
 -V '%use-id-as-filename%' ../../doc/docbook-utils.sgml
 jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared
 object file: No such file or directory
 make[2]: *** [api.html] Error 127
 make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
 jade: error while loading shared libraries: libosp.so.3: cannot open shared
 object file: No such file or directory
 make[2]: *** [backend-spec.html] Error 127
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc/HTML'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14/work/docbook-utils-0.6.14/doc'
 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 
 !!! ERROR: app-text/docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 failed.
 !!! Function src_compile, Line 556, Exitcode 2
 !!! emake failed
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
 message.
 
 
 Ideas?
 

emerge openjade

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware problem

2005-06-10 Thread Bill Six
Thanks for the help everyone.  The RAM was the
problem, even though it didn't appear to be in
incorrectly, after I pushed them in a little harder,
the computer booted up all right.  The cables are
right next to the RAM, it must have gotten a little
dislodged.

Thanks again

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-10 Thread maxim wexler

 possible level, and may be more reliably.  But maybe
 your burner is
 broken (?)

No, it's fine. Still under warranty. Works fine under
WinXP. The reason I mentioned broadband is because big
files(like install isos and pkg cds) can be downloaded
in minutes instead of days. I can certainly download
and burn small(ish) files using my home kit and my
trusty old 56kUSR ext modem(after squeezing a signal
through 8 mi of phone line!) -- as long as I do it in
WinXP; remember? it occupies /dev/hda1. I can even
emerge stuff from the net with gentoo up; it's just
that during all this downloading and emerging there is
no phone. 

Perhaps our correspondent's grub update plan is the
way to go. Does emerge know enough to re  re grub
without leaving too many loose ends.


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Re: [gentoo-user] freenx-nxserver fun continued: nxproxy port

2005-06-10 Thread Zac Medico


--- fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay so I got this nxserver stuff going fine. I can
 connect to the
 server machine over its ssh port. But then it seems
 that something
 called nxproxy is trying to connect from the client,
 to the server, on
 TCP port 5000.
 
 I've looked for documents or a config file for
 nxproxy, because I can't
 use that port. This network does not allow outgoing
 ports except on a
 ver few ports.
 

That's lame.

 Does anyone know how to get nxproxy to use a
 different port? Or better
 yet, not use nxproxy at all?
 
 Curiously nxproxy --help gets me this:
 
 nxproxy --help
 Error: Cannot open NX transport library
 'libXcomp.so.1.4.0'. Error is
 'libXcomp.so.1.4.0: cannot open shared object file:
 No such file or
 directory'.
 

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/NX/lib nxproxy --help
Error: NX transport initialization failed.

Hmm, it doesn't seem to be well documented.

The default ports are documented here:
http://www.nomachine.com/documentation/html/admin-guide.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error

2005-06-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 06:17:06PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote

 PAM is an *optional* dependency; you can compile the program -pam and

  PAM is an *OPTIONAL PROGRAM*; build your system with...

[m450][root][~]cat /etc/portage/package.mask
sys-libs/pam

in addition to -pam in use, and you will find Gentoo a lot more
pleasant.  One question... why does OpenOffice *DEMAND* PAM to build
from source???  The binary ebuild installs OK without PAM.

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Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?

2005-06-10 Thread Walter Dnes
cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI gives me the following...

scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'HITACHI ' 'DVD-ROM GD-5000 ' '0110' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) 'SONY' 'CD-RW  CRX100E  ' '1.0m' Removable CD-ROM
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *

  I copy/move a bunch of files into directory xfer, and burn an ISO with
the following script...

#!/bin/sh
mkisofs -R -J xfer | cdrecord -tao -v fs=8m -data dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 -

Piping direct from mkisofs avoids creating, and then deleting, a
physical ISO file.  It does give a warning message because, with input
from stdin, cdrecord has no way of telling in advance whether it'll fit
onto the CD.

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[gentoo-user] /dev=ATAPI versus /dev=ATA

2005-06-10 Thread Walter Dnes
  Going off on a bit of a tangent here, and re-naming the subject.  If
I execute cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI, the system spins its wheels for
several seconds, and I get...

Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling
on-the-fly encryption (version 1.0-rc1) built-in, (C) 2004,2005 Maximilian 
Decker

NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord
  and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.
  Please send bug reports and support requests to burbon04 at gmx.de.
  For more information please see 
http://burbon04.gmxhome.de/linux/CDREncryption.html.
  The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version.

cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r9
cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
scsidev: 'ATAPI'
devname: 'ATAPI'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
Warning: The related Linux kernel interface code seems to be unmaintained.
Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'HITACHI ' 'DVD-ROM GD-5000 ' '0110' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) 'SONY' 'CD-RW  CRX100E  ' '1.0m' Removable CD-ROM
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *

  However, cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATA also works and gives *IMMEDIATE*
response.  The output is very similar...

Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling
on-the-fly encryption (version 1.0-rc1) built-in, (C) 2004,2005 Maximilian 
Decker

NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord
  and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.
  Please send bug reports and support requests to burbon04 at gmx.de.
  For more information please see 
http://burbon04.gmxhome.de/linux/CDREncryption.html.
  The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version.

cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r9
cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
scsidev: 'ATA'
devname: 'ATA'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus1:
1,0,0   100) 'HITACHI ' 'DVD-ROM GD-5000 ' '0110' Removable CD-ROM
1,1,0   101) 'SONY' 'CD-RW  CRX100E  ' '1.0m' Removable CD-ROM
1,2,0   102) *
1,3,0   103) *
1,4,0   104) *
1,5,0   105) *
1,6,0   106) *
1,7,0   107) *

  Has anyone tried something like...

mkisofs -R -J xfer | cdrecord -tao -v fs=8m -data dev=ATA:0,1,0 -

instead of

mkisofs -R -J xfer | cdrecord -tao -v fs=8m -data dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 -

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke

2005-06-10 Thread Richard Fish
maxim wexler wrote:

 possible level, and may be more reliably. But maybe
 your burner is
 broken (?)


 No, it's fine. Still under warranty. Works fine under
 WinXP. 


If you have a FAT partition for sharing files between Linux and XP, you
could copy the ISO to there and burn it under XP.  A USB flash memory
device would also work for the transfer.

 Perhaps our correspondent's grub update plan is the
 way to go. Does emerge know enough to re  re grub
 without leaving too many loose ends.


You are certainly welcome to try, whether it is download the source
directly from gnu.org or upgrading via emerge.  I have my doubts as to
whether that will help any though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -pv world error

2005-06-10 Thread Kyle England
Ramón Gutiérrez wrote:
 go to */ect/make.conf* and add *ACCEPTS_KEYWORDS=~x86 *
 case sensitive

Rarely, if ever, will the above be a good solution to any problem like
this.


To the original poster:
You're problem is because you're trying to install a hard masked
version of proftpd, which requires an unstable version of pam.

You have two options, as I see it:
1.) install the x86 version of proftpd, which is what I'd do
2.) add net-ftp/proftpd -pam to /etc/portage/package.use and then
try the emerge again.

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[gentoo-user] intel gma900 and linux

2005-06-10 Thread Sven Köhler
Hi,

what about buying a notebook with intel's 915 chipset which doesn't use
any ati or nvidia-card but the integrated intel-thing called GMA900.

I can't find any ebuild in portage, but there are drivers for linux on
intel's support page. They seem to be at least for linux 2.4 - and
perhaps for 2.6 too.

Are the available driver compatible with Linux 2.6? Which X.Org driver
would work? Is the 2D-performance OK? Did anybody manage to get
3D-Acceleration to work?

Thx
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Re: [gentoo-user] Routing problem

2005-06-10 Thread James R Campbell
On Friday 10 June 2005 09:19, Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm having a bit trouble to get one computer force to use another route.

 this are the commands i'm using to create routes
 route add -net 10.32.16.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 10.32.101.4 dev
 tun1 route add -host 10.32.16.160 gateway 10.32.101.2 dev tun0

 The routes on my  gentoo router are:
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface 10.32.101.4 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  0   
 0 tun1 10.32.101.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  0  
  0 tun0 10.32.16.16010.32.101.2 255.255.255.255 UGH   0  0 
   0 tun0 10.32.100.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 U 0  0
0 eth1 10.32.26.0  10.32.100.2 255.255.255.0   UG0  0   
 0 eth1 10.32.16.0  10.32.101.4 255.255.255.0   UG0  0  
  0 tun1 10.32.16.0  10.32.100.2 255.255.255.0   UG0  0 
   0 eth1 10.32.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0   U 0  0
0 eth0 127.0.0.0   127.0.0.1   255.0.0.0   UG0 
 00 lo

Wow, that's an interesting route table.  Off the bat, I'd say that the 
duplicate entries for the 10.32.16.0/32 are causing you grief here.  It also 
looks like you have a typo in your second entry (if your above statement was 
correct) in the third quad of your gateway in this entry: 10.32.16.0/32 -- 
10.32.100.2.  Also that entry is set for eth1 and if that's a tunnel it 
should be set for tun{x} iirc.  I'm not going to comment on the rest of the 
table as I don't know the whole story ;)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Routing problem

2005-06-10 Thread James R Campbell
...
 duplicate entries for the 10.32.16.0/32 are causing you grief here.  It
 also looks like you have a typo in your second entry (if your above
 statement was correct) in the third quad of your gateway in this entry:
 10.32.16.0/32 -- 10.32.100.2. 
... 
I'm sorry, both of those should read 10.32.16.0/24.

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[gentoo-user] emerge of netkit-rsh

2005-06-10 Thread Digby Tarvin
When I emerge netkit-rsh (because I want to share a tape via rmt) I get
several warning such as:
 QA Notice: /usr/bin/rlogin is setXid, dynamically linked and using lazy 
bindings.
 This combination is generally discouraged. Try: CFLAGS='-Wl,-z,now' emerge 
netkit-rsh

Which seems pretty reasonable - I would rather not use dynamic libs on a
suid program...

but my command line was:
# CFLAGS='-Wl,-z,now' emerge netkit-rsh
as the warning suggests :-/

So what is the best way to get emerge to build things in with the
recommended compile options?

Regards,
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[gentoo-user] Re: docbook-sgml-utils-0.6.14 [0.6.12]

2005-06-10 Thread James
Tim Igoe tim at igoe.me.uk writes:

 emerge openjade
 
 then continue the emerge -uD world

Thanks everyone for the answers.

these 2 commands seem to have clean up the email of the 
sgml-utils problem.

Thanks,

James



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[gentoo-user] Can't build OpenSSH, requires Perl 5

2005-06-10 Thread Colin
I'm compiling my system (emerge -env system), but when it gets down to 
building OpenSSH, it fails, saying You need Perl 5.  Pretending and 
checking the tree shows that Perl 5 will be emerged later on during the 
install.  Attempting to emerge -v perl attempts to emerge svgalib as 
well (since I haven't built the system), which fails saying that the 
kernel has not been configured yet.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't build OpenSSH, requires Perl 5

2005-06-10 Thread Ted Ozolins
Colin wrote:

 I'm compiling my system (emerge -env system), but when it gets down to
 building OpenSSH, it fails, saying You need Perl 5.  Pretending and
 checking the tree shows that Perl 5 will be emerged later on during
 the install.  Attempting to emerge -v perl attempts to emerge
 svgalib as well (since I haven't built the system), which fails saying
 that the kernel has not been configured yet.

 Any ideas?

 -- 
 Colin

I ran into the same glitch on a new system. The only way I was able to
get around that was to blank out my USE= in /etc/make.conf. I realized
afterwards that I could have accomplished the same by:

USE=*- emerge -v perl

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't build OpenSSH, requires Perl 5

2005-06-10 Thread Zac Medico


--- Ted Ozolins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Colin wrote:
 
  I'm compiling my system (emerge -env system), but
 when it gets down to
  building OpenSSH, it fails, saying You need Perl
 5.  Pretending and
  checking the tree shows that Perl 5 will be
 emerged later on during
  the install.  Attempting to emerge -v perl
 attempts to emerge
  svgalib as well (since I haven't built the
 system), which fails saying
  that the kernel has not been configured yet.
 
  Any ideas?
 
  -- 
  Colin
 
 I ran into the same glitch on a new system. The only
 way I was able to
 get around that was to blank out my USE= in
 /etc/make.conf. I realized
 afterwards that I could have accomplished the same
 by:
 
 USE=*- emerge -v perl
 

More drastic than my solution but it could be
necessary.  I've seen USE=-* more commonly but maybe
they're equivalent.  I believe emerge --nodeps does
basically the same thing.

Zac



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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't build OpenSSH, requires Perl 5

2005-06-10 Thread Zac Medico


--- Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now that I've been thinking about it for a while, if
 OpenSSH needs Perl, 
 shouldn't Perl be built before OpenSSH?  This seems
 like an ebuild bug 
 to me.
 

openssh depends on autoconf which depends on perl. 
Apparently you have autoconf but not perl.  Is perl
really not there?  There is a related bug here:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70984

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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge of netkit-rsh

2005-06-10 Thread Francesco Talamona
On Saturday 11 June 2005 04:46, Digby Tarvin wrote:
 When I emerge netkit-rsh (because I want to share a tape via rmt) I
 get several warning such as:
  QA Notice: /usr/bin/rlogin is setXid, dynamically linked and using
 lazy bindings. This combination is generally discouraged. Try:
 CFLAGS='-Wl,-z,now' emerge netkit-rsh

 Which seems pretty reasonable - I would rather not use dynamic libs
 on a suid program...

 but my command line was:
   # CFLAGS='-Wl,-z,now' emerge netkit-rsh
 as the warning suggests :-/

 So what is the best way to get emerge to build things in with the
 recommended compile options?

 Regards,
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I think it should be LDFLAGS, not CFLAGS:
 LDFLAGS='Wl,-z,now' emerge netkit-rsh

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