Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

2007-07-05 Thread Paul Waring
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:40:10PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
   emerge is along the same lines.  make menuconfig is the limits of my
 expertise.  I remember RPM hell with Redhat linux, trying to find an
 RPM package for a program I wanted, where the developer hadn't linked it
 against a bunch of stuff I didn't have.  I can take a text-only basic
 system, emerge gimp, and emerge will pull in and build, in the right
 order, all the necessary X libraries, GTK, etc, etc.  I end up with a
 functional TWM desktop.  emerge bbkeys emerges blackbox
 key-controls... after first emerging blackbox.  Try doing that with
 RPMs.

What makes you think that you can't do that with RPMs now? Seven years
ago they were a nightmare but things have moved on since then. The same
goes for deb files (can't think of any other major ones off the top of
my head).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mailman wont start

2007-07-05 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen
Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
 mailman # /etc/init.d/mailman start * Starting mailman ...  [ !! ]
 
 Obliviously something did not went as plan, but I can't seem to find 
 anything in the log files (/var/log/mail.*). Am I looking the wrong place?
 
 If not where should I look? 

Try /usr/local/mailman/logs - HTH!

No nothing there!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

2007-07-05 Thread Kent Fredric

On 7/5/07, Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:40:10PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
   emerge is along the same lines.  make menuconfig is the limits of my
 expertise.  I remember RPM hell with Redhat linux, trying to find an
 RPM package for a program I wanted, where the developer hadn't linked it
 against a bunch of stuff I didn't have.  I can take a text-only basic
 system, emerge gimp, and emerge will pull in and build, in the right
 order, all the necessary X libraries, GTK, etc, etc.  I end up with a
 functional TWM desktop.  emerge bbkeys emerges blackbox
 key-controls... after first emerging blackbox.  Try doing that with
 RPMs.

What makes you think that you can't do that with RPMs now? Seven years
ago they were a nightmare but things have moved on since then. The same
goes for deb files (can't think of any other major ones off the top of
my head).

Paul
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* Binary Dependency
* No USE
* Binary Dependency Breaks = No solution other than choose which of
the 2 programs you want to lose.
* Forceful ignorance of binary dependencies triggers stupid stuff like
spontaneous removal of all of libc.

( i think thats the sort of headaches he was referring to with rpm-hell )

Conclusion on binary based distros:
   wait for upstream to fix.
Conclusion on source based distros:
   you can fix it yourself, and today.

I'd rather be able to have breakages I can work around  ;)

So not only is gentoo healthy, imo, its a very healthy test-bed for
the whole world of OSS.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

2007-07-05 Thread Thufir
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:40:10 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:

 Try doing that with
 RPMs.

Generally, works fine with YUM.  I expect that yum and portage are about 
the same, and end result differences on dependencies are more due redhat/
fedora using multiple repo's for liability/policy reasons, not due to 
the superiority of portage over yum.  My two cents.


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Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1

2007-07-05 Thread Stefán István
csütörtök 05 július 2007 03.04 dátummal Rumen Yotov ezt írta:
 On (04/07/07 15:26) Stefán István wrote:
  Hello!
  
  I got the following error:
  
   * Failed Running automake !
   * 
   * Include in your bugreport the contents of:
   * 
   
*   /var/tmp/portage/gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1/temp/automake-24490.out
  
  
  !!! ERROR: gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1 failed.
  Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1615:   Called dyn_unpack
ebuild.sh, line 752:   Called qa_call 'src_unpack'
ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_unpack
gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1.ebuild, line 97:   Called eautoreconf
autotools.eclass, line 97:   Called eautomake
autotools.eclass, line 194:   Called autotools_run_tool 'automake' 
  '--add-missing' '--copy'
autotools.eclass, line 218:   Called die
  
  !!! Failed Running automake !
  !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack 
if 
  relevant.
  !!! A complete build log is located at 
  '/var/tmp/portage/gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1/temp/build.log'.
  
  
  What should I do to avoid this problem?
  
  Thanks for the help in advance,
  István
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 Hi,
 Try re-emerging 'libtool' or gnome-vfs a second time (sometimes helps).
 Also check/search in b.g.o.
 HTH. Rumen

Hello!

Thanks for the tip, but it doesn't solve the problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1 - SOLVED

2007-07-05 Thread Stefán István
szerda 04 július 2007 15.26 dátummal Stefán István ezt írta:
 Hello!
 
 I got the following error:
 
  * Failed Running automake !
  * 
  * Include in your bugreport the contents of:
  * 
  *   /var/tmp/portage/gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1/temp/automake-24490.out
 
 
 !!! ERROR: gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1 failed.
 Call stack:
   ebuild.sh, line 1615:   Called dyn_unpack
   ebuild.sh, line 752:   Called qa_call 'src_unpack'
   ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_unpack
   gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1.ebuild, line 97:   Called eautoreconf
   autotools.eclass, line 97:   Called eautomake
   autotools.eclass, line 194:   Called autotools_run_tool 'automake' 
 '--add-missing' '--copy'
   autotools.eclass, line 218:   Called die
 
 !!! Failed Running automake !
 !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if 
 relevant.
 !!! A complete build log is located at 
 '/var/tmp/portage/gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1/temp/build.log'.


I've emerged automake-1.9.6-r2 and that solved the problem.
But I think that maybe it is a bug in the portage. This package 
(gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1) should be dependent from automake-1.9.6-r2.

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[gentoo-user] Re: problem emerging gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1 - SOLVED

2007-07-05 Thread Alexander Skwar
Stefán István [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But I think that maybe it is a bug in the portage. This package
 (gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1) should be dependent from
 automake-1.9.6-r2.

If you think so, go to bugzilla and check, if that issue has been
filed already. If not, go ahead and create a bug entry.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Mailman wont start

2007-07-05 Thread Johannes Skov Frandsen
Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
 Johannes Skov Frandsen wrote:
 
 mailman # /etc/init.d/mailman start * Starting mailman ...  [ !! ]

 Obliviously something did not went as plan, but I can't seem to find 
 anything in the log files (/var/log/mail.*). Am I looking the wrong place?

 If not where should I look? 
   
 Try /usr/local/mailman/logs - HTH!
 

 No nothing there!

   
I finally found the error log. I have included it with this post. It
seems to me that there is two errors, but is one causing the other or
are they independent? Any hints on how to fix the issues?

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Jun 29 09:41:23 2007 mailmanctl(25698): Site list is missing: mailman 
Jun 29 09:41:23 2007 (25698) Site list is missing: mailman
Jun 29 09:51:41 2007 mailmanctl(25837): Site list is missing: mailman 
Jun 29 09:51:41 2007 (25837) Site list is missing: mailman
Jun 29 11:00:03 2007 mailmanctl(28982): Site list is missing: mailman 
Jun 29 11:00:03 2007 (28982) Site list is missing: mailman
Jun 29 11:43:53 2007 mailmanctl(4930): Site list is missing: mailman 
Jun 29 11:43:53 2007 (4930) Site list is missing: mailman
Jun 29 12:31:36 2007 mailmanctl(22150): Site list is missing: mailman 
Jun 29 12:31:36 2007 (22150) Site list is missing: mailman
Jun 29 12:37:33 2007 mailmanctl(22301): Site list is missing: mailman 
Jun 29 12:37:33 2007 (22301) Site list is missing: mailman
Jun 29 15:48:54 2007 mailmanctl(5278): Site list is missing: mailman 
Jun 29 15:48:54 2007 (5278) Site list is missing: mailman
Jun 30 11:09:14 2007 mailmanctl(5244): Site list is missing: mailman 
Jun 30 11:09:14 2007 (5244) Site list is missing: mailman
Jun 30 11:13:29 2007 mailmanctl(5240): Site list is missing: mailman 
Jun 30 11:13:29 2007 (5240) Site list is missing: mailman
Jun 30 11:16:20 2007 mailmanctl(5240): Site list is missing: mailman 
Jun 30 11:16:20 2007 (5240) Site list is missing: mailman
Jul 01 05:00:01 2007 (14760) Site list is missing: mailman
Jul 05 09:57:32 2007 admin(13454):  
admin(13454): [- Mailman Version: 2.1.9 -] 
admin(13454): [- Traceback --] 
admin(13454): Traceback (most recent call last):
admin(13454):   File /usr/local/mailman/scripts/driver, line 101, in run_main
admin(13454): main()
admin(13454):   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 56, in 
main
admin(13454): process_request(doc, cgidata)
admin(13454):   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/create.py, line 190, in 
process_request
admin(13454): mlist.Create(listname, owner, pw, langs, emailhost)
admin(13454):   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 493, in 
Create
admin(13454): self.InitVars(name, admin, crypted_password)
admin(13454):   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py, line 404, in 
InitVars
admin(13454): baseclass.InitVars(self)
admin(13454):   File /usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py, line 
96, in InitVars
admin(13454): os.mkdir(self.archive_dir()+'.mbox', 02775)
admin(13454): OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: 
'/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/brutus.mbox'
admin(13454): [- Python Information -] 
admin(13454): sys.version =   2.4.4 (#1, May 24 2007, 14:36:53) 
[GCC 4.1.1 (Gentoo 4.1.1-r3)] 
admin(13454): sys.executable  =   /usr/bin/python 
admin(13454): sys.prefix  =   /usr 
admin(13454): sys.exec_prefix =   /usr 
admin(13454): sys.path=   /usr 
admin(13454): sys.platform=   linux2 
admin(13454): [- Environment Variables -] 
admin(13454):   HTTP_COOKIE: PHPSESSID=77d2314c92e9a2102ffb3d89f33f7c6b 
admin(13454):   SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache 
admin(13454):   SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/create 
admin(13454):   SERVER_SIGNATURE: addressApache Server at www.omesc.com Port 
80/address
admin(13454): 
admin(13454):   REQUEST_METHOD: POST 
admin(13454):   HTTP_KEEP_ALIVE: 300 
admin(13454):   SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.1 
admin(13454):   QUERY_STRING:  
admin(13454):   CONTENT_LENGTH: 151 
admin(13454):   HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 
admin(13454):   HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; 
rv:1.8.1.4) Gecko/20070604 Firefox/2.0.0.4 
admin(13454):   HTTP_CONNECTION: keep-alive 
admin(13454):   HTTP_REFERER: http://www.omesc.com/mailman/create 
admin(13454):   SERVER_NAME: www.omesc.com 
admin(13454):   REMOTE_ADDR: 85.218.191.254 
admin(13454):   SERVER_PORT: 80 
admin(13454):   SERVER_ADDR: 195.41.139.234 
admin(13454):   DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/omc/htdocs/ 
admin(13454):   PYTHONPATH: /usr/local/mailman 
admin(13454):   SCRIPT_FILENAME: /usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin/create 
admin(13454):   SERVER_ADMIN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
admin(13454):   HTTP_HOST: www.omesc.com 
admin(13454):   REQUEST_URI: /mailman/create 
admin(13454):   HTTP_ACCEPT: 

[gentoo-user] Re: Beryl, kde and updating

2007-07-05 Thread Marc Blumentritt
Novensiles divi Flamen schrieb:
 Since syncing the night before last beryl is no longer diplaying properly. I 
 get the desktop, I get the cube, and I get window decorations on programs. 
 But most programs display absolutely nothing inside the window decorations, 
 and a few other programs (ie kppp) show a solid box but no buttons or input 
 visible. Anyone else having similar issues?

Have a look in your elog files of your last update. I got a similiar
problem a few weeks before. I had to reemerge one programm (can't
remember which) to get beryl working properly. The program was metioned
in the elog files.

Hope it helps.
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Re: [gentoo-user] New kernel does not boot up on remote host

2007-07-05 Thread Galevsky

Many thanks for you suggestion. I tried a boot with no fall back, but
nothing added neither to boot.log nor to dmesg. I am sure to target
the right kernel image with no typo into grub.conf . This new kernel
is a =xen-sources-2.6.16.49, and I configured it making an oldconfig
based on current =gentoo-sources-2.6.20 running kernel. So, errors
cannot come from drivers or such things, but specific xen options.
Does anyone know any xen option able to prevent the kernel to boot up
?

Many thanks for your support,

Gal'

2007/7/4, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 21:54 +0200, Galevsky wrote:
 ... the matter is Grub falls back to previous 2.6.20 kernel. So I have
 no log at all about what went wrong during the dom0_2.6.18 boot.

 Any idea to know what went wrong ?


Nevertheless, if you want to actually know what the error
is then you should disable the fallback.


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[gentoo-user] [OT] Storing ssh and gpg keys in USB flash drives

2007-07-05 Thread José González Gómez

Hi there,

I would like to store my ssh and gpg keys in my usb flash drive, but I'm not
sure what's the best way to do it:

If I use vfat so I can also read them from Windows I have two problems:
first you must mount your USB key with a 0077 umask, so ssh and gpg doesn't
complain about key permissions; latest KDE version seems to auto mount USB
flash drives using pmount with a 0022 umask and I haven't been able to
change this, so I either mount it manually or change the permissions after
being mounted. The second problem is related to gpg: it seems that gpg uses
links to lock the keyrings, and vfat doesn't support them, so I'm able to
read keys, but not to make any modfication on them.

If I use ext2 the permission problem goes away (kind of), but I have the
feeling that this isn't as portable as vfat, as the filesystem uses the user
id to control access to files, and pluging the drive in another system where
my user may have anoter uid leads me to chowning/chmoding in the better case
or not having access to my keys in the worst case.

Any ideas?

Best regards
Jose


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

2007-07-05 Thread David Relson
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 08:37:14 + (UTC)
Thufir wrote:

 On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:40:10 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
 
  Try doing that with
  RPMs.
 
 Generally, works fine with YUM.  I expect that yum and portage are
 about the same, and end result differences on dependencies are more
 due redhat/ fedora using multiple repo's for liability/policy
 reasons, not due to the superiority of portage over yum.  My two
 cents.
 
 
 -Thufir

Mandrake/Mandriva has urpmi which handles RPM dependencies.  Several
times I've updated from one Mandriva release to the next by downloading
the new release's package list then running urpmi --auto-select.
Once the many packages are downloaded, the upgrade goes very well.

I used YUM for a while and it worked fine, though its dependency
resolving was much slower than urpmi.

Gentoo with portage makes it easier to stay up-to-date with the latest
and greatest.  The existence of /etc/portage/package.* provides lots of
power to customize but adds a significant level of complexity.  urpmi
and YUM are easier to use as both lack the customizability and the
associated complexity.

Just my $0.02.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Beryl, kde and updating

2007-07-05 Thread Novensiles divi Flamen
Thanks for the tip. Turns out it was the newer i810 video driver, which also 
breaks dual monitor output. I downgraded back to 1.7.4 and normal operation 
is resumed. 

Would this be considered a reportable bug in the video driver?

- Noven

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 19:24:02 Marc Blumentritt wrote:
 Novensiles divi Flamen schrieb:
  Since syncing the night before last beryl is no longer diplaying
  properly. I get the desktop, I get the cube, and I get window decorations
  on programs. But most programs display absolutely nothing inside the
  window decorations, and a few other programs (ie kppp) show a solid box
  but no buttons or input visible. Anyone else having similar issues?

 Have a look in your elog files of your last update. I got a similiar
 problem a few weeks before. I had to reemerge one programm (can't
 remember which) to get beryl working properly. The program was metioned
 in the elog files.

 Hope it helps.
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[gentoo-user] about grub

2007-07-05 Thread sain yan

Hi
 On my gentoo box, Useing grub and it work fine!
 But I`m NOT find the file menu.lst in /etc and /boot,Why???


 and I install another kernel , Then write the file menu.lst at
/boot/grub/menu.lst,
 But Grub DON`T read it when booting,Why??


 anybody help me?   thanks!!
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Re: [gentoo-user] about grub

2007-07-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2007, sain yan wrote:
 Hi
   On my gentoo box, Useing grub and it work fine!
   But I`m NOT find the file menu.lst in /etc and /boot,Why???


   and I install another kernel , Then write the file menu.lst at
 /boot/grub/menu.lst,
   But Grub DON`T read it when booting,Why??


   anybody help me?   thanks!!

forget /etc/menu.lst
forget /boot/menu.lst
/boot/grub/menu.lst is deprecated - and a symlink to
/boot/grub/grub.conf

are you sure that grub is not reading grub.conf in /boot/grub? 
Is the boot - . symlink in /boot? Are you sure that your settings are 
correct? Correct harddrive? Correct partition?
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Re: [gentoo-user] about grub

2007-07-05 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Dominik Żyła:

 Hi,
 [14:01] concubine:~ $ ll /boot/grub/menu.lst
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 gru 14  2005 /boot/grub/menu.lst - grub.conf
 [14:01] concubine:~ $

So what?

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Re: [gentoo-user] about grub

2007-07-05 Thread Paul Waring
On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 07:51:10PM +0800, sain yan wrote:
  On my gentoo box, Useing grub and it work fine!
 
  But I`m NOT find the file menu.lst in /etc and /boot,Why???

The file you want is stored as: /boot/grub/grub.conf on Gentoo systems.
You need to edit that file in order to make any changes and grub will
read them correctly at the next reboot (you don't need to run any
commands as you do with lilo).

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Re: [gentoo-user] about grub

2007-07-05 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Dominik Żyła:
 2007/7/5, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Dominik Żyła:
   Hi,
   [14:01] concubine:~ $ ll /boot/grub/menu.lst
   lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 gru 14  2005 /boot/grub/menu.lst -
   grub.conf [14:01] concubine:~ $
 
  So what?

 So, it`s exactly what  Hemmann, Volker Armin  wrote above your post.

Yes, but I don't think it's the cause of the problem. And, according to 
grub's man page, is also (partly) wrong:

   --config-file=FILE
  specify stage2 config_file [default=/boot/grub/menu.lst]

(or is the man/info/--help out of date?)

As I wrote in my first answer to this thread (which somehow didn't make it 
to the list, yet), the problem is (IMHO) with /boot not beeing mounted at 
all.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Monitor recognition at boot time

2007-07-05 Thread Aleksandar L. Dimitrov
 What I do is maintain two xorg.conf files: xorg.conf.home  xorg.conf.work.

Hm... that's what I wanted to avoid, since it's usually a PITA to
maintain multiple instances of a config (I'm already doing this with
sendmail...).

 Then I do not start X during startup.  Instead I log into the console
 and run
 one of two scripts:  x-home or x-work, which simply copies the corresponding
 xorg.conf.* file to xorg.conf then starts xdm.

Yes, that's pretty close to what I'm doing right at the moment. But I
would really like to automate this process - that's why I woul really
like to be able to acquire the EDID or something similar (model specs or
just a unique binary value) at boot time, so I can invoke an appropriate
script during system init.

*sigh* ... I guess I'll have to post to the unfriendly nVnews forums
again.

Regards,
Aleks


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

2007-07-05 Thread Colleen Beamer
Thufir wrote:
 On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 21:40:10 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
 
 Try doing that with
 RPMs.
 
 Generally, works fine with YUM.  I expect that yum and portage are about 
 the same, and end result differences on dependencies are more due redhat/
 fedora using multiple repo's for liability/policy reasons, not due to 
 the superiority of portage over yum.  My two cents.
 
 
 -Thufir
 
Admittedly, I haven't used any other distro but Gentoo since I made the
transition in 2004, but yum wasn't perfect.  I guess my complaint with
yum was more on the lines of what was said above regarding the repo's.
IIRC, there were many instances where I needed something in order to
install something else and then, the package was not in the repo.  At
least with Gentoo, if there is some error on install, I can either
unmask a package to solve something or wait a short period of time, till
the issue is fixed, and fixed it *will be*.  I don't have to go hunting
for a needle in a haystack to find the repo that has what I need.

But as I said, I haven't used yum in 3 years, so things may be different
now.  I still am not going to give up Gentoo - it's the best distro
around, as far as I'm concerned.

Regards,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] about grub

2007-07-05 Thread Dominik Żyła

2007/7/5, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Dominik Żyła:

 Hi,
 [14:01] concubine:~ $ ll /boot/grub/menu.lst
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 gru 14  2005 /boot/grub/menu.lst - grub.conf
 [14:01] concubine:~ $

So what?

Bye...

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So, it`s exactly what  Hemmann, Volker Armin  wrote above your post.


Re: [gentoo-user] Monitor recognition at boot time

2007-07-05 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Aleksandar L. Dimitrov wrote:
 I would really like to automate this process - that's why I woul
 really like to be able to acquire the EDID or something similar
 (model specs or just a unique binary value) at boot time, so I can 
 invoke an appropriate script during system init.

$ eix edid
* x11-misc/read-edid
 Available   :  1.4.1 ~1.4.1-r1
 Description :  program that can get information from a pnp monitor.

Now pray that this works before having started X.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Monitor recognition at boot time

2007-07-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:37:02 +0200, Aleksandar L. Dimitrov wrote:

 Yes, that's pretty close to what I'm doing right at the moment. But I
 would really like to automate this process - that's why I woul really
 like to be able to acquire the EDID or something similar (model specs or
 just a unique binary value) at boot time, so I can invoke an appropriate
 script during system init.

What about x11-misc/read-edid?


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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.21 and sundance.ko problems.

2007-07-05 Thread Dominik Żyła

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  I have 4 port D-Link DFE-580TX NIC and running Gentoo with 2.6.21
  kernel. When I load sundance.ko there is no interfaces available in my

  `ifconfig -a` output. Besides, all 4 interfaces are listed in `lspci`
  output. Have anyone had such a problem?

 Send the output of dmesg right after modprobind sundance.

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I`ve got only this output:
 sundance.c:v1.2 11-Sep-2006  Written by Donald Becker
  http://www.scyld.com/network/sundance.html
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:04.0[A] - GSI 18 (level, low) - IRQ 18
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:05.0[A] - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:06.0[A] - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 20
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:07.0[A] - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 21

This is my lspci output:
02:04.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet
(rev 15)
02:05.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet
(rev 15)
02:06.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet
(rev 15)
02:07.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc DL10050 Sundance Ethernet
(rev 15)




So, any ideas?


Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6.21 and sundance.ko problems.

2007-07-05 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 15:08:42 +0200 Dominik Żyła
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have 4 port D-Link DFE-580TX NIC and running Gentoo with 2.6.21
 kernel. When I load sundance.ko there is no interfaces available in
 my `ifconfig -a` output. Besides, all 4 interfaces are listed in
 `lspci` output. Have anyone had such a problem?

That's a sundance.ko compiled against your current kernel, right? dmesg
output on loading sundance? Are all dependencies met? Tried compiling
it into the kernel? Maybe play with transceiver support (MII and
stuff)...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)

2007-07-05 Thread Mark Knecht

On 7/5/07, Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:40:10PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
   emerge is along the same lines.  make menuconfig is the limits of my
 expertise.  I remember RPM hell with Redhat linux, trying to find an
 RPM package for a program I wanted, where the developer hadn't linked it
 against a bunch of stuff I didn't have.  I can take a text-only basic
 system, emerge gimp, and emerge will pull in and build, in the right
 order, all the necessary X libraries, GTK, etc, etc.  I end up with a
 functional TWM desktop.  emerge bbkeys emerges blackbox
 key-controls... after first emerging blackbox.  Try doing that with
 RPMs.

What makes you think that you can't do that with RPMs now? Seven years
ago they were a nightmare but things have moved on since then. The same
goes for deb files (can't think of any other major ones off the top of
my head).

Paul


Well, in the world of audio RPMs anyway the problem always was that
different audio apps used different versions of libraries. Last time I
used Fedora (maybe 3-4 years ago now) none of the RPM managers would
automatically go find all the right libraries for some odd audio app I
wanted to try out, and then even if they did if I decided to take the
app off my system there wasn't a good way to clean up after the fact.

Beyond that I never had a major Fedora upgrade go cleanly. My Gentoo
machines are now multi-years old and they just update each week or two
as new revisions come out.

I'm sure things are much better today but I still hear folks complain
about this sort of this on the pro-audio lists once in awhile. I
couldn't have written a better description of my use of Gentoo than
Walter did. I'm pretty much exactly the same sort of user. Gentoo
works great for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

2007-07-05 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 02:09:43 Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
 David Relson wrote:
  Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ???

 try emerge -upv claws-mail

 If you omit -u (means --upgrade), you will re-emerge currently installed
 version.

-u means direct deps will be updated too and that the target (in this case 
claws-mail) won't be remerged unless there's an upgrade (or downgrade). 
Without -u it still merges the latest visible version of the target itself..

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Re: [gentoo-user] usb mp3 player can't be mounted

2007-07-05 Thread Michael Niggli

maxim wexler wrote:

Hi group,

I posted earlier on this subject but scored no hits.
I've been poking around on the Web for answers but so
far without luck.

When I plug the player into port and $dmesg, this
comes up:

SNIP

Why won't it assign a drive, like /dev/sda? It does on
another machine with virtually the same setup.

Nothing shows up in udevinfo, cat /proc/partitions. 


but,

#lsusb 
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04e8:9826 Samsung Electronics

Co., Ltd

and 


$cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
snip
S: Manufacturer=NewTech Inc
S: Product=USB Mass Storage Device 2.0
snip

I tried making the node manually(assuming /dev/sda)

#mknod /dev/sda b 8 0

but attempts to mount the device return /dev/sda is
not a valid block device

What am I missing?

Maxim
  
In the other post you mentioned that the kernel configs of those two 
machines are,
concerning USB settings, the same. But how about SCSI disk support? It 
seems to
be needed for USB storage, or at least its help text in menuconfig says 
so... :)



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Re: [gentoo-user] New kernel does not boot up on remote host

2007-07-05 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 11:36 +0200, Galevsky wrote:
 Many thanks for you suggestion. I tried a boot with no fall back, but
 nothing added neither to boot.log nor to dmesg. I am sure to target
 the right kernel image with no typo into grub.conf . This new kernel
 is a =xen-sources-2.6.16.49, and I configured it making an oldconfig
 based on current =gentoo-sources-2.6.20 running kernel. So, errors
 cannot come from drivers or such things, but specific xen options.
 Does anyone know any xen option able to prevent the kernel to boot up
 ?

I guess I (still) don't understand what your issue is.  So I went back
and read your original post.  Maybe I misunderstood it.

  * What do you mean by remote host?
  * If your box does not boot how would you expect to see a
boot.log or dmesg?  They don't exist if the system has not
booted.  In fact does not boot implies that you can't even log
in to check for dmesg or boot logs.  Perhaps you can explain
what it is exactly you mean by does not boot.  
  * Usually there is an error message on the console if there is a
boot loader/kernel issue with booting.
  * Also you never posted your grub.conf.

So hopefully you can come up with a specific explanation of does not
boot as well as your config and any console messages you get.  Else
this becomes a blind leading the blind issue.



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Re: [gentoo-user] usb mp3 player can't be mounted

2007-07-05 Thread John covici
on Thursday 07/05/2007 Michael Niggli([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
  maxim wexler wrote:
   Hi group,
  
   I posted earlier on this subject but scored no hits.
   I've been poking around on the Web for answers but so
   far without luck.
  
   When I plug the player into port and $dmesg, this
   comes up:
  
   SNIP
  
   Why won't it assign a drive, like /dev/sda? It does on
   another machine with virtually the same setup.
  
   Nothing shows up in udevinfo, cat /proc/partitions. 
  
   but,
  
   #lsusb 
   Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04e8:9826 Samsung Electronics
   Co., Ltd
  
   and 
  
   $cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
   snip
   S: Manufacturer=NewTech Inc
   S: Product=USB Mass Storage Device 2.0
   snip
  
   I tried making the node manually(assuming /dev/sda)
  
   #mknod /dev/sda b 8 0
  
   but attempts to mount the device return /dev/sda is
   not a valid block device
  
   What am I missing?
  
   Maxim
 
  In the other post you mentioned that the kernel configs of those two 
  machines are,
  concerning USB settings, the same. But how about SCSI disk support? It 
  seems to
  be needed for USB storage, or at least its help text in menuconfig says 
  so... :)

There is also another config which I found very helpful -- for at
least recognizing a card reader which is not in the default config and
that is
# Some SCSI devices (e.g. CD jukebox) support multiple LUNs
#
CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y

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Re: [gentoo-user] New kernel does not boot up on remote host

2007-07-05 Thread Galevsky

2007/7/5, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 11:36 +0200, Galevsky wrote:
 Many thanks for you suggestion. I tried a boot with no fall back, but
 nothing added neither to boot.log nor to dmesg. I am sure to target
 the right kernel image with no typo into grub.conf . This new kernel
 is a =xen-sources-2.6.16.49, and I configured it making an oldconfig
 based on current =gentoo-sources-2.6.20 running kernel. So, errors
 cannot come from drivers or such things, but specific xen options.
 Does anyone know any xen option able to prevent the kernel to boot up
 ?

I guess I (still) don't understand what your issue is.  So I went back
and read your original post.  Maybe I misunderstood it.

  * What do you mean by remote host?


I rent a dedicated host. Thus, I have no physical access to the
machine. And the reason why I used the fall-back feature into grub is
to avoid the use of a boring rescue system (via a web interface) to
take back the control of a not-responding box.


  * If your box does not boot how would you expect to see a
boot.log or dmesg ? They don't exist if the system has not
booted.  In fact does not boot implies that you can't even log
in to check for dmesg or boot logs.  Perhaps you can explain
what it is exactly you mean by does not boot.


When I try to boot on the new kernel, I set it as the default one in
grub.conf and reboot the box. And I wait for a few minutes. Then I try
to log on, praying to find the box responding.

First, with grub fall-back activated, the boot had fallen back and I
was able to read the logs that contained the running kernel logs, but
no info about the kernel boot that failed. That was the matter of my
first mail: how to read  the reasons of the first kernel-boot-attempt
failure.

Secondly, you advised me to turn fall back off. I do. The box is no
more responding after reboot, and I have to launch the rescue system
to log on my box, and read the /var/log/*. I thought previously that
some pb happened -I didn't know when exactly-... and was waiting for
more info in log files. But files were empty. So, I conclude that the
boot procedure failed (and you too ;o)).

Finally, I have to find out why my kernel is not booting. I tuned up
well my previous kernel, a gentoo-sources-2.6.20 -this kernel runs
currently my box very well- and the kernel I want to boot now is a
xen-sources-2.6.16. I made an oldconfig on /proc/config.gz of the
2.6.20 running kernel, and fill in xen-dom0 specific options as
indicated on the wiki tutorial [1]. So, I guess I did something wrong
with the dom0 xen config, and asked for advice on xen specific options
with my second post.


  * Usually there is an error message on the console if there is a
boot loader/kernel issue with booting.
  * Also you never posted your grub.conf.

So hopefully you can come up with a specific explanation of does not
boot as well as your config and any console messages you get.  Else
this becomes a blind leading the blind issue.


I have no console message to provide you, I just know that my remote
box is not responding when I try to boot another kernel (If you know
the way to get logs, I'll be grateful :o)). And I checked the
/var/log/* to be sure that the kernel was not running but just missing
any network feature so that I could not log on the box despite the
kernel was actually running.

As for my grub.conf + 'ls -l /boot' , I will provide you in a while (I
need to go home before), but I am not sure it is relevant. (just to
check for typo I guess).


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Many thanks to take care of my problem :o)

Gal'

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

2007-07-05 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
 -u means direct deps will be updated too and that the target (in this case 
 claws-mail) won't be remerged unless there's an upgrade (or downgrade). 
 Without -u it still merges the latest visible version of the target itself..

- From man emerge:
   --update (-u)
  Updates  packages  to the best version available, which may not 
always be the highest
version number due to masking for testing and development.  This will also 
update direct
dependencies which may not be  what  you  want.   Package  atoms specified  on 
the command line are
greedy, meaning that unspecific atoms may match multiple installed versions of 
slot-ted packages.

You can use --nodeps, too, so you only update the specific package, with no 
deps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] about grub

2007-07-05 Thread Paul Gibbons
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 19:51:10 +0800
sain yan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
   On my gentoo box, Useing grub and it work fine!
   But I`m NOT find the file menu.lst in /etc and /boot,Why???
 
 
   and I install another kernel , Then write the file menu.lst at
 /boot/grub/menu.lst,
   But Grub DON`T read it when booting,Why??
 
 
   anybody help me?   thanks!!
I had a similar issue. My boot partition contained
a /boot/grub/menu.lst with the option:

title   Gentoo-2.6.20.r8 on /dev/sdb2 - hd1,1
root(hd1,1)
kernel  /boot/bzImage-2.6.20-gentoo-r8 root=/dev/sdb6

but changes to /boot/bzImage-2.6.20-gentoo-r8 seem to have no effect.

The cause was the value for root ( (hd1,1) ) which pointed to a
different partition than the  partition mounted as / and which
held /boot. 

I had to mount hd1,1 which was /dev/sdb2 as /mnt/sdb2 and sure enough
in /mnt/sdb2/boot I found the image that was run at boot time.

I really need to tidy up my partitions!


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Re: [gentoo-user] about grub

2007-07-05 Thread Don Jerman

On 7/5/07, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

As I wrote in my first answer to this thread (which somehow didn't make it
to the list, yet), the problem is (IMHO) with /boot not beeing mounted at
all.


Yes, if you followed the Gentoo install instructions closely /boot is
not mounted during normal operation, so if you install a new kernel it
will write /boot/grub/grub.conf (or /boot/grub/menu.lst) to your root
partition, not your boot partition.  Grub is instructed to use (hd0,0)
or whatever your particular boot partition is, so it's not going to
see the /boot directory on your root partition - mount /boot and
re-install the new kernel version and it'll probably boot fine.  Then
you can clean up the version of /boot that's on your root partition
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

2007-07-05 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Thursday 05 July 2007 20:07:58 Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
  -u means direct deps will be updated too and that the target (in this
  case claws-mail) won't be remerged unless there's an upgrade (or
  downgrade). Without -u it still merges the latest visible version of the
  target itself..

 From man emerge:
 --update (-u)
 Updates packages  to the best version available, which may not
 always be the highest version number due to masking for testing and
 development. This will also update direct dependencies which may not
 be what you  want. Package  atoms specified  on the command line are
 greedy, meaning that unspecific atoms may match multiple installed
 versions of slotted packages. 

 You can use --nodeps, too, so you only update the specific package, with no
 deps.

Why are you posting this? Was I unclear about anything?

If foo has a direct dependency on =cat/bar-1.5 and you have =cat/bar-1.4 
installed then `emerge foo` will upgrade both foo and bar to latest visible 
versions because that direct dependency on bar is not satisfied. With -u the 
same would happen except foo won't be remerged if there is no upgrade. 
With --nodeps only foo would be upgraded or remerged despite the dependency 
on bar not being satisfied.

If instead you already had =cat/bar-1.5 installed then `emerge foo` would 
upgrade or remerge foo only because the dependency on bar is already 
satisfied. With --update bar would be upgraded if a later version is 
available even though it isn't necessary to satisfy the dependency. 
With --nodeps still only foo gets upgraded or remerged.

In summary --nodeps is potentially *very* dangerous. Don't use it unless you 
know what you are doing. Also don't use --update or --deep if you want to 
minimize the number of upgrades...

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail

2007-07-05 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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 Why are you posting this? Was I unclear about anything?

Nevermind, man.

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Re: [gentoo-user] usb mp3 player can't be mounted

2007-07-05 Thread maxim wexler
   concerning USB settings, the same. But how about
 SCSI disk support? It 

It's there.

 CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y
 

No help.

OS finds the device and scans it but refuses to assign
a drive letter.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Storing ssh and gpg keys in USB flash drives

2007-07-05 Thread Kent Fredric

On 7/5/07, José González Gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi there,

I would like to store my ssh and gpg keys in my usb flash drive, but I'm not
sure what's the best way to do it:

If I use vfat so I can also read them from Windows I have two problems:
first you must mount your USB key with a 0077 umask, so ssh and gpg doesn't
complain about key permissions; latest KDE version seems to auto mount USB
flash drives using pmount with a 0022 umask and I haven't been able to
change this, so I either mount it manually or change the permissions after
being mounted. The second problem is related to gpg: it seems that gpg uses
links to lock the keyrings, and vfat doesn't support them, so I'm able to
read keys, but not to make any modfication on them.

If I use ext2 the permission problem goes away (kind of), but I have the
feeling that this isn't as portable as vfat, as the filesystem uses the user
id to control access to files, and pluging the drive in another system where
my user may have anoter uid leads me to chowning/chmoding in the better case
or not having access to my keys in the worst case.

Any ideas?

Best regards
Jose



vfat{
vfatfiles
ext2fs{
   gpg_stuff
}
}

1. Mount vfat drive
2. dd if=/dev/full bs=1048580 count=4096 of =/mountpoint/mynewextfile
3. mkfs.ext2 /mountpoin/mynewextfile
4. mount /mountpoint/mynewextfile/  /someothermountpoint/
5. cp files to /someothermountpoint/
6. use /someothermountpoint/
7. umount /someothermountpoint/
8. umount /mountpoint/

I didn't say it would be pretty, but that is a handy trick to have up the sleve.
that would make a 4 Meg file containing a filesystem to hold your
files, just like a TAR file, except with all the features of ext2 and
no need unpack it to use.

You can do anything with linux, really. Yes. even format a file as a
filesystem and mount it
( a word of warning : dont do this and format with reiserfs and then
store that file on a reiserfs fs ... if you do, next time you need to
--rebuild-tree reiser will try to be smart and trash your drive :) ...
learn't the hard way )

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Re: [gentoo-user] usb-storage detected but drive not assigned

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:57:49 -0700 (PDT)
maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi group,
 
 I can't mount a usb music stick with a fat fs because
 a drive letter eg /dev/sda has not been assigned.
 Here's dmesg:
 
 snip
 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
 address 2
 usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
 Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
 scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
 usb-storage: device found at 2
 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before
 scanning
 usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
 USB Mass Storage support registered.
 scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access USB  FLASH DISK
 V2.0  2120 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
 usb-storage: device scan complete
 usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
 drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver
 usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 2
 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
 address 3
 usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
 scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
 usb-storage: device found at 3
 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before
 scanning
 scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access USB  FLASH DISK
 V2.0  2120 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
 usb-storage: device scan complete
 
 And $cat /proc/partitions only lists the two
 hard-drives.
 
 The device works OK in another gentoo unit with the
 same kernel config and modules as far as usb is
 concerned.
 
 I did #mknod /dev/sda b 8 0 and tried to mount it
 there and then tried /dev/sda1 but got /dev/sda not a
 valid block device and /dev/sda1 does not exist
 respectively.
 
 Yes, the fat and vfat modules are inserted.
 
 Maxim

Did you include modules for scsi disks?  I think it's sd_mod.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Spamassassin

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 12:49:23 +0530
Gentoo Voyager [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 how do i confirm whether my spamassassin woking or no. i'm using
 qmail,qmail-scanner  spammassassin in gentoo..
 
 
I typed up some notes while setting up SA enhancements.  Maybe they'd
prove useful to you:

 http://spore.ath.cx/~dan/spamd_add_razor.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] New kernel does not boot up on remote host

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Farrell
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:40:20 +0200
Galevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2007/7/5, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 11:36 +0200, Galevsky wrote:
   Many thanks for you suggestion. I tried a boot with no fall back,
   but nothing added neither to boot.log nor to dmesg. I am sure to
   target the right kernel image with no typo into grub.conf . This
   new kernel is a =xen-sources-2.6.16.49, and I configured it
   making an oldconfig based on current =gentoo-sources-2.6.20
   running kernel. So, errors cannot come from drivers or such
   things, but specific xen options. Does anyone know any xen option
   able to prevent the kernel to boot up ?
 
  I guess I (still) don't understand what your issue is.  So I went
  back and read your original post.  Maybe I misunderstood it.
 
* What do you mean by remote host?
 
 I rent a dedicated host. Thus, I have no physical access to the
 machine. And the reason why I used the fall-back feature into grub is
 to avoid the use of a boring rescue system (via a web interface) to
 take back the control of a not-responding box.
 
* If your box does not boot how would you expect to see a
  boot.log or dmesg ? They don't exist if the system has not
  booted.  In fact does not boot implies that you can't
  even log in to check for dmesg or boot logs.  Perhaps you can
  explain what it is exactly you mean by does not boot.
 
 When I try to boot on the new kernel, I set it as the default one in
 grub.conf and reboot the box. And I wait for a few minutes. Then I try
 to log on, praying to find the box responding.
 
 First, with grub fall-back activated, the boot had fallen back and I
 was able to read the logs that contained the running kernel logs, but
 no info about the kernel boot that failed. That was the matter of my
 first mail: how to read  the reasons of the first kernel-boot-attempt
 failure.
 
 Secondly, you advised me to turn fall back off. I do. The box is no
 more responding after reboot, and I have to launch the rescue system
 to log on my box, and read the /var/log/*. I thought previously that
 some pb happened -I didn't know when exactly-... and was waiting for
 more info in log files. But files were empty. So, I conclude that the
 boot procedure failed (and you too ;o)).
 
 Finally, I have to find out why my kernel is not booting. I tuned up
 well my previous kernel, a gentoo-sources-2.6.20 -this kernel runs
 currently my box very well- and the kernel I want to boot now is a
 xen-sources-2.6.16. I made an oldconfig on /proc/config.gz of the
 2.6.20 running kernel, and fill in xen-dom0 specific options as
 indicated on the wiki tutorial [1]. So, I guess I did something wrong
 with the dom0 xen config, and asked for advice on xen specific options
 with my second post.
 
* Usually there is an error message on the console if there
  is a boot loader/kernel issue with booting.
* Also you never posted your grub.conf.
 
  So hopefully you can come up with a specific explanation of does
  not boot as well as your config and any console messages you get.
  Else this becomes a blind leading the blind issue.
 
 I have no console message to provide you, I just know that my remote
 box is not responding when I try to boot another kernel (If you know
 the way to get logs, I'll be grateful :o)). And I checked the
 /var/log/* to be sure that the kernel was not running but just missing
 any network feature so that I could not log on the box despite the
 kernel was actually running.
 
 As for my grub.conf + 'ls -l /boot' , I will provide you in a while (I
 need to go home before), but I am not sure it is relevant. (just to
 check for typo I guess).
 
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 Many thanks to take care of my problem :o)
 
 Gal'
 
 [1]: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xen_and_Gentoo

from /etc/conf.d/rc:
# RC_BOOTLOG will generate a log of the boot messages shown on the
console. # Useful for headless machines or debugging.  You need to
emerge the # app-admin/showconsole package for this to work.  Note that
this probably # won't work correctly with boot splash.

RC_BOOTLOG=no

I recommend you install showconsole and set RC_BOOTLOG to yes, that
might help you.  It is possible that maybe something as mundane as
networking is failing for a stupid reason, and therefore you cant get
to the computer because it cant finish booting.
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[gentoo-user] Switching virtual desktops in KDE with Xinerama

2007-07-05 Thread Aleksey V. Kunitskiy
Hi
Can I switch virtual desktops in KDE with Xinerama separately on each screen? 
I know that it can be done without Xinerama(by using two X11 screens), but I 
might have the ability moving windows between screens - with Xinerama I can 
this.

Thanks for any suggestions

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Re: [gentoo-user] New kernel does not boot up on remote host

2007-07-05 Thread Albert Hopkins
I recently discovered 'savefallback' in grub which I did not know about.
I'll assume you're using that but again, I haven't seen your grub.conf.

Dan Farrell made an intresting point about boot log and showconsole, but
I assumed you were already using that.  But I still don't that will help
you because your problem appears to be one of the following:

  * Grub is not loading your kernel and is falling back (same as my
original theory)
  * Your kernel/hypervisor is loading but is crashing immediately.
If the Xen hypervisor is crashing you really need the console.
AFAIK there's no option to log.  The only option you really have
is whether or not to immediately reboot when it crashes.  If Xen
is loading successfully then it loads your dom0. If that's
crashing it's probably crashing immediately (i.e. not even
mounting root). If it is the dom0 then that seems to be the case
since you can't find any record of it having booted.  If you
crash before you mount root read/write then showconsole and
bootlog are useless.

All things said, I'm still guessing that it's either a grub problem or
Xen doesn't like your hardware.  Xen is picky about hardware and
sometimes you have to turn on/off things in the BIOS or as a parameter
to Xen (like the ACPI controller) but it's going to be hard to guess
without an error message and I'm betting that error message appears
before bootlog/showconsole take effect.


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Re: [gentoo-user] usb-storage detected but drive not assigned-FIXED

2007-07-05 Thread maxim wexler
 Did you include modules for scsi disks?  I think
 it's sd_mod.

Well, I *thought* I did. Thanks Dan.

Maxim


  

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Re: [gentoo-user] New kernel does not boot up on remote host

2007-07-05 Thread Galevsky

2007/7/5, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:40:20 +0200
Galevsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2007/7/5, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Thu, 2007-07-05 at 11:36 +0200, Galevsky wrote:
   Many thanks for you suggestion. I tried a boot with no fall back,
   but nothing added neither to boot.log nor to dmesg. I am sure to
   target the right kernel image with no typo into grub.conf . This
   new kernel is a =xen-sources-2.6.16.49, and I configured it
   making an oldconfig based on current =gentoo-sources-2.6.20
   running kernel. So, errors cannot come from drivers or such
   things, but specific xen options. Does anyone know any xen option
   able to prevent the kernel to boot up ?
 
  I guess I (still) don't understand what your issue is.  So I went
  back and read your original post.  Maybe I misunderstood it.
 
* What do you mean by remote host?

 I rent a dedicated host. Thus, I have no physical access to the
 machine. And the reason why I used the fall-back feature into grub is
 to avoid the use of a boring rescue system (via a web interface) to
 take back the control of a not-responding box.

* If your box does not boot how would you expect to see a
  boot.log or dmesg ? They don't exist if the system has not
  booted.  In fact does not boot implies that you can't
  even log in to check for dmesg or boot logs.  Perhaps you can
  explain what it is exactly you mean by does not boot.

 When I try to boot on the new kernel, I set it as the default one in
 grub.conf and reboot the box. And I wait for a few minutes. Then I try
 to log on, praying to find the box responding.

 First, with grub fall-back activated, the boot had fallen back and I
 was able to read the logs that contained the running kernel logs, but
 no info about the kernel boot that failed. That was the matter of my
 first mail: how to read  the reasons of the first kernel-boot-attempt
 failure.

 Secondly, you advised me to turn fall back off. I do. The box is no
 more responding after reboot, and I have to launch the rescue system
 to log on my box, and read the /var/log/*. I thought previously that
 some pb happened -I didn't know when exactly-... and was waiting for
 more info in log files. But files were empty. So, I conclude that the
 boot procedure failed (and you too ;o)).

 Finally, I have to find out why my kernel is not booting. I tuned up
 well my previous kernel, a gentoo-sources-2.6.20 -this kernel runs
 currently my box very well- and the kernel I want to boot now is a
 xen-sources-2.6.16. I made an oldconfig on /proc/config.gz of the
 2.6.20 running kernel, and fill in xen-dom0 specific options as
 indicated on the wiki tutorial [1]. So, I guess I did something wrong
 with the dom0 xen config, and asked for advice on xen specific options
 with my second post.

* Usually there is an error message on the console if there
  is a boot loader/kernel issue with booting.
* Also you never posted your grub.conf.
 
  So hopefully you can come up with a specific explanation of does
  not boot as well as your config and any console messages you get.
  Else this becomes a blind leading the blind issue.

 I have no console message to provide you, I just know that my remote
 box is not responding when I try to boot another kernel (If you know
 the way to get logs, I'll be grateful :o)). And I checked the
 /var/log/* to be sure that the kernel was not running but just missing
 any network feature so that I could not log on the box despite the
 kernel was actually running.

 As for my grub.conf + 'ls -l /boot' , I will provide you in a while (I
 need to go home before), but I am not sure it is relevant. (just to
 check for typo I guess).

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 Many thanks to take care of my problem :o)

 Gal'

 [1]: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xen_and_Gentoo

from /etc/conf.d/rc:
# RC_BOOTLOG will generate a log of the boot messages shown on the
console. # Useful for headless machines or debugging.  You need to
emerge the # app-admin/showconsole package for this to work.  Note that
this probably # won't work correctly with boot splash.

RC_BOOTLOG=no

I recommend you install showconsole and set RC_BOOTLOG to yes, that
might help you.  It is possible that maybe something as mundane as
networking is failing for a stupid reason, and therefore you cant get
to the computer because it cant finish booting.
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Thank you Dan, but I did it before, and boot.log remains empty. In
fact, the new kernel boot turns on like grub couldn't find the kernel
image

Hereafter my /boot content:

sd-4421 boot # ll /boot
total 13M
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 767k Jul  6 00:02
System.map-2.6.16.49-xendedibox_r6_final
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 929k Jun 16 19:29 System.map-2.6.20-gentoo-r8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root1 Apr 30 19:40 boot - ./
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root  31k Jul  6 00:02 config-2.6.16.49-xendedibox_r6_final

Re: [gentoo-user] New kernel does not boot up on remote host

2007-07-05 Thread Galevsky

Sorry, I was building again my kernel image to confirm that It was not
a stupid mistake.

2007/7/6, Albert Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I recently discovered 'savefallback' in grub which I did not know about.
I'll assume you're using that but again, I haven't seen your grub.conf.

Dan Farrell made an intresting point about boot log and showconsole, but
I assumed you were already using that.


Ya, I did it. No boot.log created when booting the xen-kernel, but
reporting good status when I boot up the good 2.6.20 one. So, feature
is on.


 But I still don't that will help
you because your problem appears to be one of the following:

  * Grub is not loading your kernel and is falling back (same as my
original theory)


Ya, you should be right...


  * Your kernel/hypervisor is loading but is crashing immediately.
If the Xen hypervisor is crashing you really need the console.
AFAIK there's no option to log.  The only option you really have
is whether or not to immediately reboot when it crashes.  If Xen
is loading successfully then it loads your dom0. If that's
crashing it's probably crashing immediately (i.e. not even
mounting root). If it is the dom0 then that seems to be the case
since you can't find any record of it having booted.  If you
crash before you mount root read/write then showconsole and
bootlog are useless.
All things said, I'm still guessing that it's either a grub problem or
Xen doesn't like your hardware.  Xen is picky about hardware and
sometimes you have to turn on/off things in the BIOS or as a parameter
to Xen (like the ACPI controller) but it's going to be hard to guess
without an error message and I'm betting that error message appears
before bootlog/showconsole take effect.



Okay, thanks a lot, I am looking for such information since I am new
to xen. I will google for people running xen solutions on the same
kind of boxes.



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Many thanks for your support guys ;o)

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[gentoo-user] System for PIII now lives in K7; any way to rebuild without full reinstall?

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Farrell
Howdy folks.  Today I have a fun exercise but am short on ideas.  Any
suggestions?  

I have an old hard drive from my router, a Pentium III.  Now i've gone
and put that hard drive in an Athlon-based machine, which doesn't
support the P-III instruction set completely.  

The computer boots and the kernel runs just fine, but many of the
programs do not work.  The biggest thorn in my side is emerge not
working; therefore, I can't fix the problem with a simle empty-tree
emerge.  

I am considering doing a full reinstall.  But, I don't want to be
bothered.  

What do you all think of the idea of extracting a stage3 onto an
existing installation?  Is there any way this could yield a set of
utilities (namely python or emerge, whichever isn't working now) enough
so that I could successfully issue an 'emerge -e world' ?

Thanks for your time and suggestions,
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Re: [gentoo-user] New kernel does not boot up on remote host

2007-07-05 Thread Dale
Galevsky wrote:


 Thank you Dan, but I did it before, and boot.log remains empty. In
 fact, the new kernel boot turns on like grub couldn't find the kernel
 image

  SNIP 

 and my grub.conf:

 ### START (grub.conf)
 sd-4421 boot # cat /boot/grub/grub.conf
 # Customized boot procedure

 default 0
 timeout 1
 #fallback 1 2

 title Gentoo Linux 2.6.16-gentoo_xen_dom0
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6-xen ro root=/dev/sda2


 title Gentoo Linux 2.6.20-r8
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-gentoo-r8 ro root=/dev/sda2


 title Gentoo Linux 2.6.18-r4-dedibox_r6_final
  root (hd0,0)
  kernel /boot/ref/2.6.18-gentoo-r4dedibox_r6_final ro root=/dev/sda2
 ### END (grub.conf)

 Well, let's try a boot on kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6-xen

 = box not responding. and via the rescue system:

 # ls /mnt/sda2/var/log/
 portage   user.log  xen
 # more  /mnt/sda2/var/log/user.log
 Jul  6 00:12:30 sd-4421 shutdown[4571]: shutting down for system reboot

 thus no log at all (xen log also empty).


 Gal'

This is my grub.conf entry:

 title Gentoo new kernel
 kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-2.6.20-r8-3 root=/dev/hda6 ide0=ata66
 ide1=ata66 vga=788
Note the missing /boot before the kernel?  If you have /boot on a
separate partition, you need to remove the /boot and make it read
something like kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.20-gentoo-r8 ro root=/dev/sda2  Keep
in mind, the root partition is not mounted when it loads the kernel. 
That is mounted later.

I hope that helps.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] New kernel does not boot up on remote host

2007-07-05 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 00:44 +0200, Galevsky wrote:
 and my grub.conf:
 
 ### START (grub.conf)
 sd-4421 boot # cat /boot/grub/grub.conf
 # Customized boot procedure
 
 default 0
 timeout 1
 #fallback 1 2
 
 title Gentoo Linux 2.6.16-gentoo_xen_dom0
   root (hd0,0)
   kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6-xen ro root=/dev/sda2
 
 
 title Gentoo Linux 2.6.20-r8
   root (hd0,0)
   kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-gentoo-r8 ro root=/dev/sda2
 
 
 title Gentoo Linux 2.6.18-r4-dedibox_r6_final
   root (hd0,0)
   kernel /boot/ref/2.6.18-gentoo-r4dedibox_r6_final ro root=/dev/sda2
 ### END (grub.conf) 

Wow, it really does make a difference when we can see the configuration!

Actually you are not using savedefault like I was assuming.  Which
basically means fallback only works when grub fails to load the kernel. 

You said you followed the HOWTO Xen and Gentoo but looks like you
ignored section 6 on configuring the boot loader.  It should look more
like this:

title Gentoo Linux 2.6.16-gentoo_xen_dom0
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/xen.gz dom0_mem=98M
module /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-gentoo-r8 ro root=/dev/sda2

Likely the dom0 kernel is failing because it expects to be run within
the hypervisor.  You need to load that first as in the above.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PPTP connection to Windows server 2003 vpn

2007-07-05 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 12:50 -0500, Karl Haines wrote:
 I've been following the guide at:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_PPTP_VPN_client_%28Microsoft-compatible_with_mppe%29
 
 Trying to get my vpn to work going from my linux laptop. That would
 really make the boss jealous!

heh, vpn from my linux laptop to our windows servers worked for me over
a bad modem, and my boss who was travelling with me couldn't get his
working from his windows laptop!

  Anyhow, when i run my ifconfing ppp0,
 after doing /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 start, it looks like this:

[snip]

hmm, looks like you haven't got an ip address for the connection...
Personally, I use pon to start my vpn link.  what do you see in your
syslog?  try pon and see if the output tells you anything.


 I see no inet entries like i think i should, and if i do:
 
 route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev ppp0
 
 is says the interface doesn't exist!!

yeah, that won't work unless you have an ip address...

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] System for PIII now lives in K7; any way to rebuild without full reinstall?

2007-07-05 Thread Dale
Dan Farrell wrote:
 Howdy folks.  Today I have a fun exercise but am short on ideas.  Any
 suggestions?  

 I have an old hard drive from my router, a Pentium III.  Now i've gone
 and put that hard drive in an Athlon-based machine, which doesn't
 support the P-III instruction set completely.  

 The computer boots and the kernel runs just fine, but many of the
 programs do not work.  The biggest thorn in my side is emerge not
 working; therefore, I can't fix the problem with a simle empty-tree
 emerge.  

 I am considering doing a full reinstall.  But, I don't want to be
 bothered.  

 What do you all think of the idea of extracting a stage3 onto an
 existing installation?  Is there any way this could yield a set of
 utilities (namely python or emerge, whichever isn't working now) enough
 so that I could successfully issue an 'emerge -e world' ?

 Thanks for your time and suggestions,
   Dan Farrell 
   


There is a portage rescue method.  Here is the info for ya:

 Please see
 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/manually-fixing-portage.xml
 for a recovery guide for a broken portage installation.

Then you should be able to adjust make.conf and emerge the whole world.

I hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] System for PIII now lives in K7; any way to rebuild without full reinstall?

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Farrell
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:31:33 -0500
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dan Farrell wrote:
  Howdy folks.  Today I have a fun exercise but am short on ideas.
  Any suggestions?  
 
  I have an old hard drive from my router, a Pentium III.  Now i've
  gone and put that hard drive in an Athlon-based machine, which
  doesn't support the P-III instruction set completely.  
 
  The computer boots and the kernel runs just fine, but many of the
  programs do not work.  The biggest thorn in my side is emerge not
  working; therefore, I can't fix the problem with a simle empty-tree
  emerge.  
 
  I am considering doing a full reinstall.  But, I don't want to be
  bothered.  
 
  What do you all think of the idea of extracting a stage3 onto an
  existing installation?  Is there any way this could yield a set of
  utilities (namely python or emerge, whichever isn't working now)
  enough so that I could successfully issue an 'emerge -e world' ?
 
  Thanks for your time and suggestions,
  Dan Farrell 

 
 
 There is a portage rescue method.  Here is the info for ya:
 
  Please see
  http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/manually-fixing-portage.xml
  for a recovery guide for a broken portage installation.
 
 Then you should be able to adjust make.conf and emerge the whole
 world.
 
 I hope that helps.
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-) 
 
Thanks Dale, I'm sure it will help. 

- Dan
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[gentoo-user] Problems compiling ikvm

2007-07-05 Thread Martin Larsson

I'm trying to compile ikvm-0.34.0.2 but i fails with no errors. It
looks as if javac doesn't get any input and therefore spits out usage
information, much like typing javac on a shell prompt:

[nant] 
/var/tmp/portage/dev-dotnet/ikvm-0.34.0.2/work/ikvm-0.34.0.2/classpath/classpath.build
   Buildfile:
file:///var/tmp/portage/dev-dotnet/ikvm-0.34.0.2/work/ikvm-0.34.0.2/classpath/classpath.build
   Target framework: Mono 1.0 Profile
   Target(s) specified: IKVM.GNU.Classpath.dll


   jars:


   classes:

[exec] javac: invalid source release: 1.5
[exec] Usage: javac options source files
[exec] where possible options include:
[exec]   -gGenerate all debugging info
[exec]   -g:none   Generate no debugging info
[exec]   -g:{lines,vars,source}Generate only some
debugging info
[exec]   -nowarn   Generate no warnings
[exec]   -verbose  Output messages
about what the compiler is doing
[exec]   -deprecation  Output source
locations where deprecated APIs are used
[exec]   -classpath path Specify where to
find user class files
[exec]   -sourcepath pathSpecify where to
find input source files
[exec]   -bootclasspath path Override location
of bootstrap class files
[exec]   -extdirs dirs   Override location
of installed extensions
[exec]   -d directorySpecify where to
place generated class files
[exec]   -encoding encoding  Specify character
encoding used by source files
[exec]   -source release Provide source
compatibility with specified release
[exec]   -target release Generate class
files for specific VM version
[exec]   -help Print a synopsis
of standard options

   BUILD FAILED - 0 non-fatal error(s), 18 warning(s)

   
/var/tmp/portage/dev-dotnet/ikvm-0.34.0.2/work/ikvm-0.34.0.2/classpath/classpath.build(27,10):
   External Program Failed: javac (return code was 2)

   Total time: 1.2 seconds.


BUILD FAILED

Nested build failed.  Refer to build log for exact reason.

Total time: 6.1 seconds.


!!! ERROR: dev-dotnet/ikvm-0.34.0.2 failed.
Call stack:
 ebuild.sh, line 1621:   Called dyn_compile
 ebuild.sh, line 973:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
 ebuild.sh, line 44:   Called src_compile
 ikvm-0.34.0.2.ebuild, line 41:   Called die

!!! ikvm build failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
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'/var/tmp/portage/dev-dotnet/ikvm-0.34.0.2/temp/build.log'.
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[gentoo-user] memtest fails, but is it the RAM?

2007-07-05 Thread Iain Buchanan
Hi all, slightly OT I know, but the usual excuses apply :)

I'm running memtest from a live-cd on a P4 3GHz HT desktop, with two
sticks of corsair VS512MB on an ASUS P4P800-X.

It always freezes at the start of test 3.  The cursor keeps flashing,
and there is no display corruption, but I can't do anything but press
the reset button.

I've swapped the sticks around, used either by themselves, tried
different slots, - everything except completely different RAM.

I've never seen this behaviour with memtest before, actually, I've never
had it fail, so I don't know how it fails.  It seems a bit strange that
it fails the same way regardless of what I do - could it possibly be a
hardware/memtest incompatibility, and not actually a faulty memory
problem?

(Ultimately, I'm trying to diagnose a random reboot problem, which makes
me suspicious of the memory, but I'm not sure)

thanks heaps for the advice,
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[gentoo-user] usb external drive

2007-07-05 Thread James
Hello,

I use ivman with usb sticks and move them between windoze
and linux systems without issue. I just got a FreeAgent
usb 2.0 external disk drive and expected it to work
just like a usb stick (not really sure why I had this expectation).

It does not show up with a 'df' command,  like a usbstick
would under /media. I'm not sure why it does not behave like
a generic usb stick?

Anyway, the only doc I could find  is of moderate usage.
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/usb-guide.xml

The device does not show up but I do get this error message to console:
df: `/media/sdb1': Input/output error

The kernel supports dos/fat file systems and the what the aforementioned
web page suggests for kernel options are included in my kernel.

I did manage to mount the device:
mkdir /mnt/usb
mount /media/sdb1 /mnt/usb

and then create and edit a file with vi.

What I'm looking for is a simple procedure I can use to set
up all my gentoo systems so I can easily move this drive from
machine to machine and have access to the files under gentoo
and windoz (2k,xp,vista).

ideas?
James


Any documents I missed or suggestions on seamless access are most welcome.
James



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[gentoo-user] Re: memtest fails, but is it the RAM?

2007-07-05 Thread James
Iain Buchanan iain at pcorp.com.au writes:


 I've swapped the sticks around, used either by themselves, tried
 different slots, - everything except completely different RAM.

hello Iain,

Not sure this is useful, but, if you can get the system to boot, you
and look more closely at the memory specifics with the 'lshw' command.
Then if you can find the mobo book, look at the published memory 
requirements and go into the
bios, and look at the bios settings for something out of the ordinary.
If you can, swap the memory with another know good system for a few days
Something might show up as a problem

 (Ultimately, I'm trying to diagnose a random reboot problem, which makes
 me suspicious of the memory, but I'm not sure)

I always look at the temperature as the mobo makes it available,
or checking the temperature of the hard drive with 'hddtemp /dev/drive'
Often power supplies will run ok can then glitch causing a
reboot. It cannot hurt to swap the power supply to see if that 
fixes the random reboots


hth,

James



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Re: [gentoo-user] usb mp3 player can't be mounted

2007-07-05 Thread Willie Wong
On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 12:20:38PM -0700, Penguin Lover maxim wexler squawked:
concerning USB settings, the same. But how about
  SCSI disk support? It 
 
 It's there.
 
  CONFIG_SCSI_MULTI_LUN=y
  
 
 No help.
 
 OS finds the device and scans it but refuses to assign
 a drive letter.
 
 -mw

Perhaps a udev problem? What is your kernel version and what is your
udev version? I had a problem several months ago when a usb mass
storage device gets scanned but udev would not create the entry in
/dev. For me the solution is to either downgrade udev to a version
compatible with the running kernel or to upgrade my kernel so it
communicates well with udev. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] about grub

2007-07-05 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2007 schrieb ext sain yan:
 Hi
   On my gentoo box, Useing grub and it work fine!
   But I`m NOT find the file menu.lst in /etc and /boot,Why???

Because you didn't mount /boot?

   and I install another kernel , Then write the file menu.lst at
 /boot/grub/menu.lst,
   But Grub DON`T read it when booting,Why??

Because grub looks at another partition.

HTH...

Dirk
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