Re: [gentoo-user] BTTV Mini-HOWTO -- how do I use multiple inputs?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:17:37 +1300 Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, you probably have one bttv device with a number of inputs. you need to switch inputs. they are usually called TV, Composite, S-Video etc. If there is more than one composite they might be called Composite-1, Composite-2 etc On the other hand they may be audio inputs? 4 composite inputs is rather excessive I would have thought. By the way which package does v4lctl come in? ok it is part of xawtv. just refreshing myself, you can see a list of available parameters with v4lctl -c /dev/video0 list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wvdial: dialup for users
I've been plunking around with this. I tried what may be a brute force method: change the permissions of /dev/ttyS14. But /dev/ttyS14 is a link to /dev/tts/14. I now see that is a devfs rendering? I thought I do not have support for devfs, and I am trying to use something else. Anyway, is it possible my problems are related to this issue? I see that the Cannot open /dev/ttyS14: device or resource busy message is a common one. And there are almost as many proposed solutions as there are instances. There surely would be an easy way to do such a simple thing? Nothing works for me. Alan Davis On 11/28/05, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John J. Foster wrote:On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 10:20:15PM -0600, Dale wrote:Now wvdial, it dials out, then sits for a minute, then disconnects withthe error that my password is wrong, which is crap because it is correct.I only got wvdial to work once on another rig.It has neverworked on this one though.Anybody have a clue on that one?I justlike to have options in case it pours instead of just a little shower. Hi Dale - I had the same problem until I setStupid Mode=yes in /etc/wvdial.conf. All was fine then.JohnThanks for that tip.I'll try that.I like to have as many back-ups as I can get.If it were not for bad luck, I would have no luck at all.Well, there is the exception of my girlfriend.She is the best thing,person, to happen yet.Dale:-)--To err is human, I'm most certainly human. --gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] wvdial: dialup for users
Ok: success! After changing the permissions a a BUNCH of files, and ownerships, and even generating new groups (ppp), finally, when I changed the ownership of /etc/wvdial to root:dialout, the setup works! Isn't that always the way? When I finally have posted and given up, a new option occurs to me that works! Thank you to everyone who made suggestions. Alan DavisOn 11/28/05, Alan E. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been plunking around with this. I tried what may be a brute force method: change the permissions of /dev/ttyS14. But /dev/ttyS14 is a link to /dev/tts/14. I now see that is a devfs rendering? I thought I do not have support for devfs, and I am trying to use something else. Anyway, is it possible my problems are related to this issue? I see that the Cannot open /dev/ttyS14: device or resource busy message is a common one. And there are almost as many proposed solutions as there are instances. There surely would be an easy way to do such a simple thing? Nothing works for me. Alan Davis On 11/28/05, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John J. Foster wrote:On Sat, Nov 26, 2005 at 10:20:15PM -0600, Dale wrote:Now wvdial, it dials out, then sits for a minute, then disconnects withthe error that my password is wrong, which is crap because it is correct.I only got wvdial to work once on another rig.It has neverworked on this one though.Anybody have a clue on that one?I justlike to have options in case it pours instead of just a little shower. Hi Dale - I had the same problem until I setStupid Mode=yes in /etc/wvdial.conf. All was fine then.JohnThanks for that tip.I'll try that.I like to have as many back-ups as I can get.If it were not for bad luck, I would have no luck at all.Well, there is the exception of my girlfriend.She is the best thing,person, to happen yet.Dale:-)--To err is human, I'm most certainly human. --gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: BTTV Mini-HOWTO -- how do I use multiple inputs?
Nick Rout nick at rout.co.nz writes: By the way which package does v4lctl come in? ok it is part of xawtv. just refreshing myself, you can see a list of available parameters with v4lctl -c /dev/video0 list What about 'media-video/came' although it's masked it says: Description: rewrite of the xawtv webcam app, which adds imlib2 support and a lot of new features Just curious if anyone has used came with a frame grabber board? Does it interfere with xawtv? complement? James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Video capture card recommendations
I just need a bare-bones card to make backups of my VCR tapes and DVDs. Not even interested in a TV-tuner though I guess they all include that. Gentoo support is a must. TIA -tracy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: How does Portage prioritze emerges in emerge world?
Holly Bostick motub at planet.nl writes: I said that the situation of upgrading a kernel with the 'symlink' USE flag active occurring at the same time as a (particular) program needing to compile against a configured kernel was not likely to occur all that often, but I was wrong. It's happened again today, but with a different program than the ones I normally keep an eye on. The good thing is that I (think I) see what the problem is. The problem is that Portage emerges the new kernel before (almost) everything else, without regard for whether the 'symlink' USE flag is active, and whether or not any of the other programs proposed to emerge need to compile against a configured kernel source-- or rather, the currently-running kernel, which the symlink most likely pointed to before Portage changed it via a previous emerge. Folks either I'm missing the boat entirely, or this is far simpler than these correspondances indicate. /etc/src contains this: rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Aug 24 14:54 .keep lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Nov 3 16:35 linux - linux-2.6.13-gentoo-r5 drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 1280 Oct 5 16:42 linux-2.6.12-gentoo-r9 drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 1280 Nov 22 16:21 linux-2.6.13-gentoo-r5 drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 688 Oct 30 01:02 linux-2.6.14-gentoo drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 688 Nov 14 02:45 linux-2.6.14-gentoo-r2 drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 688 Nov 17 21:04 linux-2.6.14.2 But since my symlink is to the 'linux-2.6.13-gentoo-r5' kernel source, that is what all of my packages use as a default to compile against, unless I use some of these techniques that others have listed? Am I correct? I have several kernel-sources later than 'linux-2.6.13-gentoo-r5' some vanilla some gentoo. How would portage know which one to compile against if not the symlink set in /usr/src? Did I miss something or this conversation only relevant if one chooses to set USE flags in lieu of a symlink in /usr/src? Why would you want to control this behavior with a USE flag versus an 'old fashion symlink' in /usr/src? confused James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How does Portage prioritze emerges in emerge world?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:26:56 + (UTC), James wrote: I have several kernel-sources later than 'linux-2.6.13-gentoo-r5' some vanilla some gentoo. How would portage know which one to compile against if not the symlink set in /usr/src? uname -r returns the currently running kernel version. Did I miss something or this conversation only relevant if one chooses to set USE flags in lieu of a symlink in /usr/src? Why would you want to control this behavior with a USE flag versus an 'old fashion symlink' in /usr/src? The sylink is still used, but maintained by portage when you install new kernel sources. The USE flag in question is 'symlink' # useflag symlink /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc:symlink - Force kernel ebuilds to automatically update the /usr/src/linux symlink. -- Neil Bothwick OPERATOR ERROR: Nyah, Nyah, Nyah, Nyah, Nyah! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Problems upgrading gcc
Hi, i have an gentoo with gcc 3.4.4, and I´ve executed the tcupdate script to upgrade the gcc(after executed an emerge sync), well, the tcupdate doesnt did nothing, and when i try tu run an emerge gcc, the las version of gcc appears as 3.4.4.-- __Atenciosamente,Thiago Lüttig__
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How does Portage prioritze emerges in emerge world?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:20:28 +0100, Francesco R. wrote: disclaimer: _not_ followed the whole thread and _not_ checked the source. But how can be created packages that work on different machines if it use uname -r ? This thread is all about compiling kernel modules, which must be specific to either the running kernel or the intended kernel. Most packages take the latter option, using the symlink, which causes problems if the symlink is updated during an emerge -u world. -- Neil Bothwick Always remember to pillage before you burn. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How does Portage prioritze emerges in emerge world?
Neil Bothwick wrote: This thread is all about compiling kernel modules, which must be specific to either the running kernel or the intended kernel. Most packages take the latter option, using the symlink, which causes problems if the symlink is updated during an emerge -u world. IMO exactly why no one should ever really use the symlink USE flag... (Haven't read the whole thread either...long since deleted from my mailserver.) Depending on the output of uname -r is foolish, as witnessed by the debacle of windows versions over the years. (Several prominent pieces of software install only on versions matching a string returned by the OS, thereby essentially eliminating the possibility that they will work on future versions. I still have several perfectly stable programs that won't run on windows xp 64 bit because of this problem.) Who is to say what that [uname -r] return might look like on different systems with custom-patched kernels? from different distros? multi-years into the future? Scott. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
I've just moved from XFree86 to xorg and updated my KDE and now my wheel mouse doesn't scroll anymore. I'm using the same mouse lines in xorg.conf that I used in Xfree86.conf, but I can't get it to work. It must be something I just don't see. Any ideas? Logitek Track man Wheel (USB) I've tried changing the protocol to PS/2 and removing gpm from my default runlevel Section InputDevice # Identifier and driver Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolPS/2 # Option Device mouse Option Device /dev/psaux Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 # Mouse-speed setting for PS/2 mouse. #Option Resolution256 # When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment # the following line. #Option Protocol Xqueue # Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice. In # almost every case these lines should be omitted. #Option BaudRate 9600 #Option SampleRate150 # Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice # Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms) #Option Emulate3Buttons #Option Emulate3Timeout50 # ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice Option ChordMiddle EndSection -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 13:33:57 up 2:03, 6 users, load average: 0.06, 0.07, 0.18 Linux 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Pam merge error
On Monday 28 November 2005 03:49 am, a tiny voice compelled andy to write: try to emerge cracklib first. cracklib and gnupg did it. Thanks -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 13:43:48 up 2:13, 6 users, load average: 0.18, 0.15, 0.13 Linux 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How does Portage prioritze emerges in emerge world?
On 11/28/05, Scott Stoddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: This thread is all about compiling kernel modules, which must be specific to either the running kernel or the intended kernel. Most packages take the latter option, using the symlink, which causes problems if the symlink is updated during an emerge -u world. IMO exactly why no one should ever really use the symlink USE flag... (Haven't read the whole thread either...long since deleted from my mailserver.) Depending on the output of uname -r is foolish, as witnessed by the I don't think anybody was advocating _depending_ upon the output of uname -r, but using that to find the sources for the currently running kernel. As in: ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build Using uname -r in this context is unlikely to ever break, as then module loading would be broken. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
On 11/28/05, Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just moved from XFree86 to xorg and updated my KDE and now my wheel mouse doesn't scroll anymore. I'm using the same mouse lines in xorg.conf that I used in Xfree86.conf, but I can't get it to work. It must be something I just don't see. Any ideas? Logitek Track man Wheel (USB) I'm confused. If it is a USB mouse, why are you using /dev/psaux? /dev/input/mice would be the preferred device if you are using a 2.6 kernel, with protocol either Auto or ExplorerPS/2. Here is what I have in my xorg.conf: Section InputDevice Identifier usbmouse Driver mouse Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/input/mice Option Buttons 8 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option SendCoreEvents On EndSection My guess is the Buttons option is the critical one that you are missing, and should probably be 5 in your case. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] Where are the suspend2 options in suspend2-sources-2.6.14-r1-3
I have also a P4 + HT and I want to use it to. Have you tried the CONFIG_SUSPEND_SMP parameter. I will try it this evening. Cheers Uwe Robin Atwood wrote: On Monday 28 November 2005 17:36, Uwe Klosa wrote: No they did not. I've got a compile error. But I have a solution for my problem. In my kernel config SMP was activated - has always been. But in the current kernels suspend2 depends on (!SMP || SUSPEND_SMP). After I changed that - I deactivated SMP for now - SUSPEND2 I have had the exact same experience. The point is I have a P4 3.2 GHz + HT processor and want to use the SMP support, as well as suspend. This worked in 2.6.12 so it's a patching error, right? Cheers... -Robin, begin:vcard fn:Uwe Klosa n:Klosa;Uwe org:Uppsala University;Electronic Publishing Centre adr:;;;Uppsala;;75120;Sweden email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:+46 (0)18 471 7658 url:http://publications.uu.se/epcentre version:2.1 end:vcard
[gentoo-user] Re: PHP
ellotheth rimmwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/26/05, Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the dev-lang/php pretty stable? Is there anything I should know before I make the switch? I'm running 5.0.5. It's lovely. Just follow the upgrade guide (http://svn.gnqs.org/projects/gentoo-php-overlay/file/docs/php-upgrading.html?format=raw) and you should be peachy. Watch the USE flags, and the overlay wiki [http://svn.gnqs.org/projects/gentoo-php-overlay/] is your friend. Thank you for the information. I will take a look at those webpages and get it installed. Jeff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] usb key question
Hi, I get this from dmesg usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 2 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning Vendor: Model: USB Flash Memory Rev: 1.04 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Attached scsi generic sg0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 0 usb-storage: device scan complete But I can't seem to mount it... what dev do I mount? Cheers Antoine -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] cdrtools and 2.6.13-r3 kernel
Does anyone know if cdrtools 2.01-r3 works at all with the gentoo 2.6.13-r3 kernel? I saw cdrecord giving a warning about later kernels. Xcdroast just doesn't seem to do anything when I've tried it. Thanks, Rob -- -- Rob Lytle Home Page A Seti search for intelligent life in Central Pa. http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: BTTV Mini-HOWTO -- how do I use multiple inputs?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:00:14 + (UTC) James wrote: Nick Rout nick at rout.co.nz writes: By the way which package does v4lctl come in? ok it is part of xawtv. just refreshing myself, you can see a list of available parameters with v4lctl -c /dev/video0 list What about 'media-video/came' although it's masked it says: Description: rewrite of the xawtv webcam app, which adds imlib2 support and a lot of new features Just curious if anyone has used came with a frame grabber board? Does it interfere with xawtv? complement? I think I tried it years ago, probably without success as the memory is very dim. I think it is written camE (with the capitalised E). The latest source file is dated June 2004 so maybe it is not maintained ? Anyway it is a 38 k download. If you want something to watch tv try media-tv/tvtime, brilliant for watching live tv or a vid-cam pluged into your framegrabber. (It will not work with hauppauge pvr cards that do mpeg encoding in hardware) James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] completely removing a program
sorry for the simple question. how can i completely remove a program and have it get rid of the conf files and any other temp files it leaves around? i want to start from scratch with some programs and dont want to have to manually search and remove those files. TIA Nick
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrtools and 2.6.13-r3 kernel
Does anyone know if cdrtools 2.01-r3 works at all with the gentoo 2.6.13-r3 kernel? I saw cdrecord giving a warning about later kernels. Xcdroast just doesn't seem to do anything when I've tried it. Works for me with 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 since I disabled dma on /dev/cdrw HTH, Sasha -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture card recommendations
I have 2 Hauppauge PVR-250's in a mythtv box And i couldn't be happier with the cards. the IVTV driver is in portage, and works great. And i've owned for of those 250's for over 2 years now. bryce Budd, Tracy wrote: I just need a bare-bones card to make backups of my VCR tapes and DVDs. Not even interested in a TV-tuner though I guess they all include that. Gentoo support is a must. TIA -tracy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] completely removing a program
Nick Smith wrote: sorry for the simple question. how can i completely remove a program and have it get rid of the conf files and any other temp files it leaves around? i want to start from scratch with some programs and dont want to have to manually search and remove those files. TIA Nick CONFIG_PROTECT=-* emerge -C pkg Just don't come complaining about deleted files. That would still leave generated files around. You can use something like http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Clean_Up_Cruft to clean out tmp files. Nothing Gentoo supported exists for the task you want I think. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:54:29 -0600 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more | frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, | pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to | where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su | - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes | back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down | net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start | giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly | in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just | be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo | that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was | running just fine | - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was | down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... Hrm. It's nothing in the base system. I sometimes run my laptop without network, and I don't have issues. Chances are some app you're running is trying to do lots of DNS queries... Does 'top' tell you anything useful? -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (The one that looks before leaping) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies.On 11/28/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even morefrequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.)When it goes out,pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down.It's gotten towhere just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes backon.This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 andthen tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts.Ichecked it and /etc/hosts was correct.Must just be a glitch withmonodevelop.My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet?My network was running just fine- just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down,but everything inside my router should have been fine...-- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... Do you have nscd running? Try to stop or restart it. It can be a real nuisance when internet connection goes down. It's also a good idea to run dns server locally if only to troubleshoot name resolution problems. HTH, Sasha -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:06:44 -0500 Danyelle Gragsone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think there are running files that you dont need without a net-device, try to find these processes/services with ps -aux and rc-update -s and stop/kill them greets to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies. On 11/28/05, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrtools and 2.6.13-r3 kernel
On 11/28/05, Alexander Kirillov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if cdrtools 2.01-r3 works at all with the gentoo 2.6.13-r3 kernel? I saw cdrecord giving a warning about later kernels.Xcdroast just doesn't seem to do anything when I've tried it. I have had no trouble with cdrecord and I am using the 2.6.13-gentoo-r3 kernel A.J.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 00:21 +0300, Alexander Kirillov wrote: Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... Do you have nscd running? Try to stop or restart it. It can be a real nuisance when internet connection goes down. It's also a good idea to run dns server locally if only to troubleshoot name resolution problems. HTH, Sasha I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Michael Sullivan wrote: Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... I saw somewhere in portage a daemon that manages connection/disconnection from the network. I think it was for laptops. But now I don't know what it is called or where it is in portage. I wonder if it would work? Rob. -- -- Rob Lytle Home Page A Seti search for intelligent life in Central Pa. http://home.comcast.net/~europa100 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Sullivan wrote: I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? Edit /etc/host.conf - it's well commented. dnsmasq reads and provides dns resolution based on /etc/hosts, too. additionlly, check your /etc/resolv.conf. a nameserver 127.0.0.1 line should be present, if you want to avoid contacting the internet for dns lookups, if so your system configured. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica / Dominio Digital TV - Da FOSS man! KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar Romper un sistema de seguridad los acerca tanto a ser hackers como el encender autos puenteando los convierte en ingenieros automotrices. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDi3lGAlpOsGhXcE0RAlYoAJ9wn39wS3X93f1mjauNYgSQH6R0VACeJrA3 cUSVn7nMs5xa+Fuodaf/+ek= =ASRh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... Do you have nscd running? Try to stop or restart it. It can be a real nuisance when internet connection goes down. It's also a good idea to run dns server locally if only to troubleshoot name resolution problems. I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? The local resolver lib will use either /etc/hosts file or dns queries in the order defined in your /etc/host.conf Anyway I think it makes sense to go through the chores of setting up local dns server ones to save some time later down the road. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Danyelle Gragsone wrote: to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies. That's funny. I'm on dial-up and I see no difference at all. I even run ntp which sets my clock and keeps it on track for me and there is no difference when I am connected and when I am not. Yes, I have three network cards installed and running all the time. I do have a local LAN here with three other rigs connected. This is not making sense. If what you guys are saying is correct, people on dial-up can't use Linux. That's not right. Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
Our cable internet service goes out frequently (and probably even more frequently now that winter has come to OKlahoma.) When it goes out, pretty much everything on my Gentoo system slows down. It's gotten to where just to get an application (like gnumeric) to open I have to su - to root and shut down /etc/init.d/net.eth0 until the Internet comes back on. This morning the internet was out and I'd shut down net.eth0 and then tried to run monodevelop and it refused to start giving me some message about my PC's hostname not being set correctly in /etc/hosts. I checked it and /etc/hosts was correct. Must just be a glitch with monodevelop. My question is what is it about Gentoo that relies so heavily on connecting to the internet? My network was running just fine - just the connection between the cable modem and the internet was down, but everything inside my router should have been fine... Do you have nscd running? Try to stop or restart it. It can be a real nuisance when internet connection goes down. It's also a good idea to run dns server locally if only to troubleshoot name resolution problems. HTH, Sasha I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_a_home-server may be of use though I've never tried dnsmasq myself. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Kuroo portage with cdb module
Hello, Is there any way to get kuroo working with portage with cdb module? -- Best Regards, Peper -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
Dale wrote: Danyelle Gragsone wrote: to me.. linux in general has always ran slow if the net connection goes out. It might be constantly trying to access the internet. Kinda like the a cell phones battery dies alot faster when it cant connect to a tower. It just keeps trying til it gets something or the phone dies. That's funny. I'm on dial-up and I see no difference at all. I even run ntp which sets my clock and keeps it on track for me and there is no difference when I am connected and when I am not. Yes, I have three network cards installed and running all the time. I do have a local LAN here with three other rigs connected. This is not making sense. If what you guys are saying is correct, people on dial-up can't use Linux. That's not right. Dale :-) I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
The local resolver lib will use either /etc/hosts file or dns queries in the order defined in your /etc/host.conf You mean /etc/nsswitch.conf? I probably do. Is /etc/host.conf still of any use? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 18:40 -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Sullivan wrote: I don't have a full DNS server for my domain. Each computer on my network has a copy of the same /etc/hosts file. Is there some way I can make it use that for DNS lookups locally? Edit /etc/host.conf - it's well commented. dnsmasq reads and provides dns resolution based on /etc/hosts, too. additionlly, check your /etc/resolv.conf. a nameserver 127.0.0.1 line should be present, if you want to avoid contacting the internet for dns lookups, if so your system configured. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - www.buanzo.com.ar Consultor en Seguridad Informatica / Dominio Digital TV - Da FOSS man! KTP Consultores - info AT ktpconsultores.com.ar Romper un sistema de seguridad los acerca tanto a ser hackers como el encender autos puenteando los convierte en ingenieros automotrices. The loopback address wasn't in my /etc/resolv.conf, so I added it and restarted net.eth0 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:43:01 + Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. many programs do a dns lookup on connection, to see who is trying to connect. It should be managed on your lan with /etc/hosts if you have it sorted properly. can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 12:24 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:43:01 + Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. many programs do a dns lookup on connection, to see who is trying to connect. It should be managed on your lan with /etc/hosts if you have it sorted properly. can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? Yes I can. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. It's funny that you say that. One of the first things I asked my ISP when I was looking for one, what OS do you use? If they didn't use *nix, I was going to keep looking. It is very rare that I have any trouble either. Another thing I like about mine is the service. When I call them, I get a live human being that answers the phone. They don't have a automated thingy, just people. I have talked to the owner once and have actually had the guys that run the network to call me for help. I am the only one that runs Linux with the logs turned on and it gives them a lot of info if they are having any connection problems. I guess windoze doesn't. They call me and get me to connect and see what happens. If I can't connect, I call them back and read them the log files and the boo boo message. They had the login/password file get borked once. They said it was there but it was messed up. They took the one from their back-ups and up it went. We were surfing again. :) Ever consider switching ISPs or are you stuck with the one you have? I'll switch for DSL but that is about it. Dial-up sucks, 26K is all I get here. Dale :) :) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On 11/28/05, Alexander Kirillov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The local resolver lib will use either /etc/hosts file or dns queries in the order defined in your /etc/host.conf You mean /etc/nsswitch.conf? I probably do. Is /etc/host.conf still of any use? Actually, I'm not sure. I've always edited nsswitch.conf to get it to do what I want, with good results. I see with strace that when I ping somehost, both nsswitch.conf and host.conf are opened. The man pages don't reveal anything about their relationship, so I guess I'll have to take a look at the glibc sources tonight. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 18:11 -0600, Dale wrote: Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. It's funny that you say that. One of the first things I asked my ISP when I was looking for one, what OS do you use? If they didn't use *nix, I was going to keep looking. It is very rare that I have any trouble either. Another thing I like about mine is the service. When I call them, I get a live human being that answers the phone. They don't have a automated thingy, just people. I have talked to the owner once and have actually had the guys that run the network to call me for help. I am the only one that runs Linux with the logs turned on and it gives them a lot of info if they are having any connection problems. I guess windoze doesn't. They call me and get me to connect and see what happens. If I can't connect, I call them back and read them the log files and the boo boo message. They had the login/password file get borked once. They said it was there but it was messed up. They took the one from their back-ups and up it went. We were surfing again. :) Ever consider switching ISPs or are you stuck with the one you have? I'll switch for DSL but that is about it. Dial-up sucks, 26K is all I get here. Dale :) :) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. My wife says that we can try SBC DSL after the new year starts (when we can afford it.) I just hope that I can get everything converted over to PPP -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] man mouse problems
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 03:13:38PM -0500, Billy Holmes wrote: Willie Wong wrote: [02:51 PM]wwong man4 $ man 4x mouse No entry for mouse in section 4x of the manual just do: man 4 mouse The problem is, there's another entry for mouse under section 4: --snip of man 4 mouse MOUSE(4) Linux Programmer's Manual MOUSE(4) NAME mouse - serial mouse interface CONFIG Serial mice are connected to a serial RS232/V24 dialout line, see ttyS(4) for a description. --end snip-- which is rather different from the entry in section 4x --snip of man /usr/man/man4/mouse.4x.gz--- MOUSE(4x)MOUSE(4x) NAME mouse - Mouse input driver SYNOPSIS Section InputDevice Identifier idevname Driver mouse Option Protocol protoname Option Device devpath ... EndSection ---end snip- [07:16 PM]wwong ~ $ find /usr/man/ -name mouse.* /usr/man/man4/mouse.4x.gz /usr/man/man4/mouse.4.gz Any ideas? W p.s. my apologies for hi-jacking the thread. The issue came up when I was trying to help the OP with the original problem. -- Two people turned in problem set 12 without indicating their names! This is true scholarship, done for it's own sake and not for material advantage, like a grade. It is an honor to be associated with such nobility of soul. ~Prof. Kirk T. McDonald, DeathEM'03 Sortir en Pantoufles: up 16 days, 16:34 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse won't scroll anymore
Nothing new in the man pages. This is driving me nuts On Monday 28 November 2005 03:13 pm, a tiny voice compelled Billy Holmes to write: Willie Wong wrote: [02:51 PM]wwong man4 $ man 4x mouse No entry for mouse in section 4x of the manual just do: man 4 mouse -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free 19:26:45 up 5:01, 3 users, load average: 0.06, 0.31, 0.47 Linux 2.6.5-gentoo-r1 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
On Monday 28 November 2005 17:58, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 12:24 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:43:01 + Ognjen Bezanov wrote: I have a gentoo system (Actually I have four of them) and they dont experience a slowdown when my internet connection goes down (which it invariably does because my ISP reboots its servers every 28 days as a policy, thereby disconnecting me ). Chances are its a particular program thats trying to connect to the net and failing, thereby using cycles in new attempts. While we are at it, does there exist a program that can monitor my internet connection and run a script if the net is down (like a restart script)? I dont want to have to come home and ssh in to restart everytime my ISP reboots its M$ Servers. ifplugd works, at least at the ethernet level. many programs do a dns lookup on connection, to see who is trying to connect. It should be managed on your lan with /etc/hosts if you have it sorted properly. can you ping via name to other machines on your lan? Yes I can. -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture card recommendations
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:32:11 -0500 Budd, Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just need a bare-bones card to make backups of my VCR tapes and DVDs. Not even interested in a TV-tuner though I guess they all include that. Gentoo support is a must. I have both a PVR-350 Hauppauge and an HD-3000 from pcHDTV. Of the two, I find the HD-3000 easier to use, and less expensive than the PVR-350. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out? + question
Michael Sullivan wrote: On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 18:11 -0600, Dale wrote: My wife says that we can try SBC DSL after the new year starts (when we can afford it.) I just hope that I can get everything converted over to PPP I !think! they use windoze too. Aren't they the same as Bell South? I know Bell South uses windoze because it is a nightmare paying my bill online. Since I am on a slow dial-up their servers keep timing out on me. I notice windoze does this a lot more *nix servers do. Later Dale :-) -- To err is human, I'm most certainly human. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Succinct compilation of system info...
What is the standard or common way to compile a detailed yet succinct listing of system info. Are there tools that do this? Or maybe one of those 16 inch cmdlines with 2 dozen pipes... :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Succinct compilation of system info...
Harry Putnam wrote: What is the standard or common way to compile a detailed yet succinct listing of system info. Are there tools that do this? Or maybe one of those 16 inch cmdlines with 2 dozen pipes... :) Well, if you're talking about all hardware then I tend to prefer sys-apps/lshw which can generate ascii/html output or run with a gui. If you want more of a summary of things, you could consider lspci and lsusb (found in pciutils and usbutils respectively). Scott. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Succinct compilation of system info...
Scott Stoddard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Harry Putnam wrote: What is the standard or common way to compile a detailed yet succinct listing of system info. Are there tools that do this? Or maybe one of those 16 inch cmdlines with 2 dozen pipes... :) Well, if you're talking about all hardware then I tend to prefer sys-apps/lshw which can generate ascii/html output or run with a gui. If you want more of a summary of things, you could consider lspci and lsusb (found in pciutils and usbutils respectively). Thanks, I wasn't aware of lshw. But I was thinking more along the lines BelarcAdvisor in the windows world. But different in the sense that it isn't gui. With Belarc you have to start and run the gui, which generates an html page. To get a text file you can `save as' from the gui. I want straight command line so redirect is possible, but a thorough summary. Not just hdw or pci or usb. I want that but also what filesystems, which users, all installed software. How much data on which partitions, all devices broken down into their uses such as ethernet, disk controller etc etc. In general a full scope summary. It seems this would have been invented long ago, for the treasure trove it would supply to developers. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] unkillable processes
Hi, My wife ran into a problem this evening that required I do a reboot. She runs Gnome. Sometimes something about her setup goes haywire and she loses all her desktop icons and her wallpaper. In the past I've found that if we log her out and then in the console kill all processes left running with her account as the owner that she can then log back in and use Gnome correctly. This evening one of these processes was unkillable. I tried kill -15 PID kill -9 PID killall -9 process_name but none worked. To make forward progress I just rebooted. Is there some other way I could have tried killing this process? Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] PHP5 and Squirrelmail
I just upgraded from dev-php/php-4.4.0 to dev-lan/php-5.0.5 and have one problem. Squirrelmail no longer seems to work. Does anybody know if there is a fix yet? The error is: Fatal error: Only variables can be passed by reference in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/squirrelmail/functions/imap_messages.php on line 480 Thanks for any help you can offer me. Jeff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] usb2 hard drive
Greeting, I am trying to get my USB2 external 200 gig ext2fs formated hard drive to mount in Gentoo. Below is my configuration: Linux yodo 2.6.11-gentoo-r3 #1 Sat Oct 1 17:38:42 CDT 2005 i686 AMD Duron(tm) Processor AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux mount /dev/hda3 on / type ext2 (rw,noatime) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /sys type sysfs (rw) none on /dev type devfs (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) eepro100.c:v1.09j-t 9/29/99 Donald Becker http://www.scyld.com/network/eepro100. html I have tried emerging coldplug and rebooting and i am able to successfully mount the drive as /dev/sda1, but the coldplug causes my network card to not work (can't even ping). emerge coldplug rc-update add coldplug default Could someone give me some advice on a different approach to mounting this device or give me a suggestion to fix my networking issue? Please email me directly as, I do not receive emails from the list. Thanks, Brian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: PHP
ellotheth rimmwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/26/05, Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the dev-lang/php pretty stable? Is there anything I should know before I make the switch? I'm running 5.0.5. It's lovely. Just follow the upgrade guide (http://svn.gnqs.org/projects/gentoo-php-overlay/file/docs/php-upgrading.html?format=raw) and you should be peachy. Watch the USE flags, and the overlay wiki [http://svn.gnqs.org/projects/gentoo-php-overlay/] is your friend. Okay. I have removed dev-php/php-4.4.0 and installed dev-lanp/php-5.0.5 and everything appears to be working okay (except for Squirelmail, but I have another thread started for that discussion). But, now when I do a emerge -uaDv world, it wants to install dev-php/php-4.4.0. Can I have a system with only 5.0.5 installed? Or do I need to install 4.4.0 also? Can I tell what program is installed that wants php-4.4.0? If I run an equery depends php, I get the following: apple var # equery depends php [ Searching for packages depending on php... ] dev-lang/swig-1.3.21 dev-php/PEAR-Console_Getopt-1.2-r1 dev-php/PEAR-Archive_Tar-1.3.2 dev-php/PEAR-PEAR-1.3.6-r1 dev-php/PEAR-XML_RPC-1.4.4 www-apps/net2ftp-0.82 I guess one of those programs is wanting php4? Thanks, Jeff -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Succinct compilation of system info...
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:31:28 -0600 Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want straight command line so redirect is possible, but a thorough summary. Not just hdw or pci or usb. I want that but also what filesystems, df -h cat /etc/fstab which users, cat /etc/passwd cat /etc/group all installed software. emerge -evt world How much data on which partitions, du -hSx / du -hSx /home ...for each partition of interest. Probably need to do some sorting and summaries with grep, sed, and awk. all devices broken down into their uses such as ethernet, disk controller etc etc. lshw -or- lshw -short lshw -businfo lshw -html etc. In general a full scope summary. It seems this would have been invented long ago, for the treasure trove it would supply to developers. It was never hidden and has always been available. The commands, excepting lshw, have been available since the 1970s. And lots of system inventory scripts are in existance. Many written obscurely in Perl and other languages. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PHP5 and Squirrelmail
Jeff Grossman wrote: Fatal error: Only variables can be passed by reference in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/squirrelmail/functions/imap_messages.php on line 480 Yup. You need to upgrade squirrelmail -- Norberto Bensa 4544-9692 Ciudad de Buenos Aires, Argentina -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Why is Gentoo so slow when internet is out?
On 11/28/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/28/05, Alexander Kirillov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The local resolver lib will use either /etc/hosts file or dns queries in the order defined in your /etc/host.conf You mean /etc/nsswitch.conf? I probably do. Is /etc/host.conf still of any use? Actually, I'm not sure. I've always edited nsswitch.conf to get it to do what I want, with good results. I see with strace that when I ping somehost, both nsswitch.conf and host.conf are opened. The man pages don't reveal anything about their relationship, so I guess I'll have to take a look at the glibc sources tonight. As close as I can tell from reading the code (which is to say, I am making an only slightly educated guess), the 'order' keyword in host.conf is pretty much ignored by current glibc versions. Host.conf is only consulted by the libnss_files.so module, and then only for the 'multi' option. The order in nsswitch.conf is authoritative. This seems to be confirmed by a few strace ping attempts with various configurations. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb2 hard drive
On 11/28/05, Brian Henning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greeting, I am trying to get my USB2 external 200 gig ext2fs formated hard drive to mount in Gentoo. I have tried emerging coldplug and rebooting and i am able to successfully mount the drive as /dev/sda1, but the coldplug causes my network card to not work (can't even ping). emerge coldplug rc-update add coldplug default Well, the one 'dangerous' thing that the coldplug rc script does is to extract /lib/firmware.tar.bz2 if it exists. If the tarball exists on your system (it should not), this could potentially overwrite some firmware file required for your network adapter. Other than that, some dmesg output would be helpful. Also, if the driver for your network card is configured as a module, try reloading it and see what you get from dmesg. Could someone give me some advice on a different approach to mounting this device or give me a suggestion to fix my networking issue? FYI, coldplug is probably not necessary. It's main use is to run the /etc/hotplug/*.rc scripts at bootup for hot-pluggable devices connected before the hotplug agent is setup correctly. If you connect or power on the USB drive after the system is booted, coldplug has no effect. Please email me directly as, I do not receive emails from the list. I have cc'd you and the list. Please only reply to the list. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, My wife ran into a problem this evening that required I do a reboot. She runs Gnome. Sometimes something about her setup goes haywire and she loses all her desktop icons and her wallpaper. In the past I've found that if we log her out and then in the console kill all processes left running with her account as the owner that she can then log back in and use Gnome correctly. This evening one of these processes was unkillable. I tried kill -15 PID kill -9 PID killall -9 process_name but none worked. To make forward progress I just rebooted. Is there some other way I could have tried killing this process? Thanks, Mark Was it a defunct or zombie process? - -- gentux echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDi/FtLYGSSmmWCZMRAh8NAJ9KXTfe8++DNn6sdGDwJSElL8Q9ywCePcxo XP7NmLuc8FA30xS7AfLj6W4= =AssW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unkillable processes
On 11/28/05, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kill -15 PID kill -9 PID killall -9 process_name but none worked. To make forward progress I just rebooted. Is there some other way I could have tried killing this process? Nope. Usually this means something went terribly wrong in hardware. Pullling a hard drive out of the system while it is running is an easy way to duplicate this problem, as it will cause the kernel to enter an interminable reset loop to try and recover. Problems with network filesystems could also cause something similar. You should check dmesg output to see if the kernel is complaining about something. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub on a SATA drive
--- Petr Kocmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 24 of November 2005 17:31, maxim wexler wrote: But what do I call it? hd0 and hd1 are taken. It may well depend on your chipset configuration, number of actually connected drives and bios boot settings. On my board, there are 2 PATA and 1 SATA channels on the same controller. In linux kernel, PATA is hda and hdb, SATA is hdc, no matter what drives are actually connected. When i migrated my installation from PATA hda to SATA hdc, grub detected hda as hd0 and hdc as hd1 before, but once I removed parallel drive, SATA become hd0 in grub (but still hdc in linux), since it is first (boot) bios drive. So I needed to fix grub config to hd0 and change a root= kernel parameter to hdc, since grub insists hd0 should be hda even if there is no drive connected on PATA: root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/bzImage-2.6.10 root=/dev/hdc1 is this a gentoo box? Also, I did grub setup on SATA MBS what's MBS? from booted grub shell, not in linux, because what it sees is what it gets then. Hope this may help you. Thanks for your suggestions. Here's where things stand: I did a fresh 2005.1 stage3 install onto the SATA drive without a hitch. I removed the ide drive, so there's only one hd. In dmesg the drive comes up as /dev/sda sda1(Macro$haft) sda2(/boot) sda5(swap) sda6(/) sda7(home) When I boot w/ the grub floppy I do: grub root (hd0,1) Fs is ext2, part type 0x83 grub kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x120, size 0x1463b31] ...so far, so good... grub boot and get: ...VFS: Cannot open root device sda6 or unknown block (0,0) Please append correct root boot option Kernel Panic-not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0) So I'm at a loss. The grub commands went alright. Wouldn't I get an error if one of the commands was wrong? Don't know what's meant by unknown block (0,0). Is it saying it's trying to mount / on /dev/sda1? Doesn't make sense. WinXP occupies 20G at /dev/sda1 and it boots OK. LBA is activated and this is a brand new, modern drive on a fairly up-to-date Asus, K8N, skt 754 mobo, so it can't be that old BIOS drive limit from the 90s. -mw -- Petr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub on a SATA drive
Am Montag, den 28.11.2005, 22:34 -0800 schrieb maxim wexler: --- Petr Kocmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 24 of November 2005 17:31, maxim wexler wrote: But what do I call it? hd0 and hd1 are taken. It may well depend on your chipset configuration, number of actually connected drives and bios boot settings. On my board, there are 2 PATA and 1 SATA channels on the same controller. In linux kernel, PATA is hda and hdb, SATA is hdc, no matter what drives are actually connected. When i migrated my installation from PATA hda to SATA hdc, grub detected hda as hd0 and hdc as hd1 before, but once I removed parallel drive, SATA become hd0 in grub (but still hdc in linux), since it is first (boot) bios drive. So I needed to fix grub config to hd0 and change a root= kernel parameter to hdc, since grub insists hd0 should be hda even if there is no drive connected on PATA: root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/bzImage-2.6.10 root=/dev/hdc1 is this a gentoo box? Also, I did grub setup on SATA MBS what's MBS? from booted grub shell, not in linux, because what it sees is what it gets then. Hope this may help you. Thanks for your suggestions. Here's where things stand: I did a fresh 2005.1 stage3 install onto the SATA drive without a hitch. I removed the ide drive, so there's only one hd. In dmesg the drive comes up as /dev/sda sda1(Macro$haft) sda2(/boot) sda5(swap) sda6(/) sda7(home) When I boot w/ the grub floppy I do: grub root (hd0,1) Fs is ext2, part type 0x83 grub kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 [Linux-bzImage, setup=0x120, size 0x1463b31] Shouldn't that read root=/dev/sda2 since your kernel obviously sits in /boot == /dev/sda2 ? The root paramter should define the place where your kernel / grub stage files reside IIRC and not where your root filesystem is located. Naming the parameter root is quite misleading though. ...so far, so good... grub boot and get: ...VFS: Cannot open root device sda6 or unknown block (0,0) Please append correct root boot option Kernel Panic-not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0) So I'm at a loss. The grub commands went alright. Wouldn't I get an error if one of the commands was wrong? Don't know what's meant by unknown block (0,0). Is it saying it's trying to mount / on /dev/sda1? Doesn't make sense. WinXP occupies 20G at /dev/sda1 and it boots OK. LBA is activated and this is a brand new, modern drive on a fairly up-to-date Asus, K8N, skt 754 mobo, so it can't be that old BIOS drive limit from the 90s. -mw -- Petr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list __ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Heinz Sporn SPORN it-freelancing Mobile: ++43 (0)699 / 127 827 07 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.sporn-it.com Snail: Steyrer Str. 20 A-4540 Bad Hall Austria / Europe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] BTTV Mini-HOWTO -- how do I use multiple inputs?
If I try to take a picture: /usr/bin/v4lctl -c /dev/video0 snap jpeg 320x240 /home/dae51d/public_html/nokia_cam.jpg /usr/bin/v4lctl -c /dev/video1 snap jpeg 320x240 /home/dae51d/public_html/ittybitty_cam.jpg Then the first one works fine, but the second one is failing with: v4l2: open /dev/video1: No such device v4l2: open /dev/video1: No such device v4l: open /dev/video1: No such device no grabber device available yes, you probably have one bttv device with a number of inputs. you need to switch inputs. they are usually called TV, Composite, S-Video etc. If there is more than one composite they might be called Composite-1, Composite-2 etc On the other hand they may be audio inputs? 4 composite inputs is rather excessive I would have thought. The PCI card looks kind of like this one: http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_impactvcb.html But it has 3 RCA Inputs and and S-VIDEO input (see bottom of page) By the way which package does v4lctl come in? # equery belongs v4lctl [ Searching for file(s) v4lctl in *... ] media-tv/xawtv-3.94-r1 (/usr/bin/v4lctl) ok it is part of xawtv. just refreshing myself, you can see a list of available parameters with v4lctl -c /dev/video0 list attribute | type | current | default | comment ---++-+-+--- -- norm | choice | PAL | PAL | PAL NTSC SECAM PAL-Nc PAL-M PAL-N NTSC-JP PAL-60 input | choice | Televis | Televis | Television Composite1 S-Video Composite3 audio mode | choice | mono| mono| mono stereo lang1 lang2 bright | int| 32768 | 32768 | range is 0 = 65535 contrast | int| 32768 | 32768 | range is 0 = 65535 color | int| 32768 | 32768 | range is 0 = 65535 hue| int| 32768 | 32768 | range is 0 = 65535 mute | bool | off | off | chroma agc | bool | off | off | combfilter | bool | off | off | automute | bool | on | off | luma decim | bool | off | off | agc crush | bool | on | off | vcr hack | bool | off | off | whitecrush | int| 207 | 207 | range is 0 = 255 whitecrush | int| 127 | 127 | range is 0 = 255 So this doesn't mention anything about the inputs. I would have thought they would be /dev/video0 ... Video2 Since the way that I take a snap with one camera attached to the card is like this: /usr/bin/v4lctl -c /dev/video0 snap jpeg 320x240 /home/dae51d/public_html/nokia_cam.jpg Notice the -c /dev/video0 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
