Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Merry Christmas!/Hanukkah
More than one Jew, I'm sure. And many other religions, I expect. Is Diwali considered a winter festival? Ramadan has passed already, no? Others? Anyway, happy winter whatevers to all of you. M On Sat, 24 Dec 2005, Peter wrote: On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:05:49 +1300, Glenn Enright wrote: To all you good people who make up the gentoo community. Its a privelige to be a member of such a lively and creative forum. Cheers to you all. Hope you all enjoy your day tomorrow. Merry Christmas! Come on, only one Jew on the forum? :) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gentoo apache virtual domains setup
Hi, I want to serve web pages for multiple virtual domains from my gentoo box. The latest howto I could find (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Linux_Virtual_Server#Apache.2C_mod_php.2C_and_PHP) admits that it is out of date relative to the gentoo apach2 package. Does anyone know of a more recent howto, or have any other tips? Last time I implemented a virtual domains web server was on redhat 8 with apache 1. I'm sure things have changed. Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo apache virtual domains setup
I should add that I'm doing virtual domains by name, not ip address. Also I see some references to the vhosts USE flag, which seems related, but poorly documented. Any pointers on this? M On Sat, 31 Dec 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to serve web pages for multiple virtual domains from my gentoo box. The latest howto I could find (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Linux_Virtual_Server#Apache.2C_mod_php.2C_and_PHP) admits that it is out of date relative to the gentoo apach2 package. Does anyone know of a more recent howto, or have any other tips? Last time I implemented a virtual domains web server was on redhat 8 with apache 1. I'm sure things have changed. Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Weird GNOME problem
Earlier tonight I changed the setting in /etc/conf.d/rc for the RC_DEVICE_TARBALL from yes to no and rebooted. Now I can't get into GNOME. For my personal account after I enter my username/password the screen clears and I see the default background color and my mouse pointer, then nothing else. I can move the mouse pointer, but there's nothing the click on and the context menu doesn't come up when I right-click. When I tried to log in as root from the welcome screen I see the GNOME Starting box with the Gentoo logo, but it never goes on from that. To get out of both my personal account and the root account I had to Alt+Cntrl+Backspace. I got a Failsafe Terminal and looked at the log files for gdm and saw this: (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (No such file or directory) There are five log files in /var/log/gdm; they all say roughly the same thing, and their timestamps are consistent with the times I tried to log in and got stuck. I can't even find out why it's looking for this file or how to make it stop looking for it. Can anyone help me out here? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo apache virtual domains setup
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Saturday 31 December 2005 11:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should add that I'm doing virtual domains by name, not ip address. Also I see some references to the vhosts USE flag, which seems related, but poorly documented. Any pointers on this? Carefully read the man page for webapp-config (emerge webapp-config, but you should already it installed). As far as I understand, the vhost flag controls whether webapp-config should be automatically run or not when a web application is emerged (ie, if vhost is set then webapp-config is NOT automatically run and you have to run it yourself manually to install the application into the proper virtualhost). Thanks Etaoin, I'll read the man page you describe. Thanks for the pointer. Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo apache virtual domains setup
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005, Edwin Kapauni wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to serve web pages for multiple virtual domains from my gentoo box. The latest howto I could find (http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Linux_Virtual_Server#Apache.2C_mod_php.2C_and_PHP) Why don't you use the original docs[1]? They are not too bad, I think. [1]http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/en/vhosts/ Thanks Edwin, You are correct, the original docs are quite good. I'll soon find out if gentoo introduces any differences. Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A Bit of Trivia
On Sun, 1 Jan 2006, Philip Webb wrote: 060101 Chris White wrote: On Saturday 31 December 2005 22:35, C. Beamer wrote: Fedora: 3.45 *Gentoo: 3.75* Mandriva: 3.70 Suse: 3.40 Ubuntu: 3.90 Word of advice, things like this are generally flawed. Quite true, but I believe CB's point was simply that Gentoo is up there with the other well-known distros for usability. The best distro for your needs is the one that best suits what you expect your system to do. Again, people out there should know that Gentoo may well be that distro. Gentoo is not difficult, but requires on-going attention input from users: in return, you get a system which you can tune to do just what you want. My own recent experience trying to update the OS in my back-up machine was that Mandriva 2006 wouldn't install, Kubuntu could not be configured, as it refused to recognise the password (it uses the same for user root), while Suse required downloading writing 5 ISO's; Ubuntu, of course, is only for those who are willing to use Gnome. Finally, I got Mandriva 2005 installed working well enough, but only with a lot of time effort (the machine too slow for Gentoo). OTOH I've been using Gentoo in my main box without problems since 031005 have a fully upto-date environment which does just what I want it to do. Gentoo is probably suitable for a lot more users than realise it. How slow is too slow for Gentoo? I'm using Gentoo on a 233MHz laptop. It's not fast, but it's perfectly adequate. Install did take over a week, I'll admit. I'm curious because I seem to do a lot of squeezing the most out of underpowered computers, and Gentoo has been my friend in these projects. I would like to know what conditions are not well suited to Gentoo. Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] how to read raw mouse events
Hi, I have a headless embedded Gentoo system. I'm using an optical mouse to detect rotation of a wheel. I don't need to know how fast or in what direction, but I do need to know whether it is turning or not. As it is headless, I have not bothered to install X. I'm diskless, so I don't have lots of memory to waste. (I'm running out of a 256M CF card.) I expect that somewhere in the chain of drivers I can tap into a stream of bytes coming from the mouse, and that if the mouse stops moving that stream stops. Or otherwise changes. Can anyone suggest where I should start looking for how to do this? Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to read raw mouse events
I would have thought that should be fine, but I tried that on my desktop, and it locked up my mouse so I thought there was something wrong with this approach. You are the second person to suggest this, though, so I'll try this again. Thanks, Michael On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Willie Wong wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 12:11:54AM -0800, Penguin Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED] squawked: Hi, I have a headless embedded Gentoo system. I'm using an optical mouse to detect rotation of a wheel. I don't need to know how fast or in what direction, but I do need to know whether it is turning or not. As it is headless, I have not bothered to install X. I'm diskless, so I don't have lots of memory to waste. (I'm running out of a 256M CF card.) I expect that somewhere in the chain of drivers I can tap into a stream of bytes coming from the mouse, and that if the mouse stops moving that stream stops. Or otherwise changes. Can anyone suggest where I should start looking for how to do this? hope I am not misunderstanding you, but what's wrong with cat /dev/input/mice HTH, W -- A grenade thrown into a kitchen in France would result in Linoleum Blownapart. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 66 days, 2:26 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to read raw mouse events
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Bastiaan wrote: On Tuesday 17 January 2006 09:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have a headless embedded Gentoo system. I'm using an optical mouse to detect rotation of a wheel. I don't need to know how fast or in what direction, but I do need to know whether it is turning or not. As it is headless, I have not bothered to install X. I'm diskless, so I don't have lots of memory to waste. (I'm running out of a 256M CF card.) I expect that somewhere in the chain of drivers I can tap into a stream of bytes coming from the mouse, and that if the mouse stops moving that stream stops. Or otherwise changes. Can anyone suggest where I should start looking for how to do this? Thanks, Michael you can just cat /dev/mice or whatever your mouse device is. -- That's it. It works. Too cool. Thanks to you and the others who suggested the same thing, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] which video card for dell2005fpw
I bought the Dell 2005FPW and am not surprised to learn that my old ATI Rage 128 does not support the Dell's native resolution of 1680x1050. I'm looking for recommendations for a new video card. Obviously something that works well with Linux in general and Gentoo in particular. Any suggestions? Should I prefer a digital interface over the analog? Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
Thanks for your reply, Simon. Answers follow: On Sat, 21 Jan 2006, Simon Kellett wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm looking for recommendations for a new video card. Obviously something that works well with Linux in general and Gentoo in particular. Any suggestions? Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming ! Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer either. Should I prefer a digital interface over the analog? I think yes: why convert to an analog signal when the source and receiver are both digital ? Also now problems with alignment. However, when I looked anyway, you could not save any money by only have DVI - you have to buy a card that supports both !! Ok, that might not be so bad. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Monday, 23 January 2006 21:15, Simon Kellett wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming ! Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer either. Same as me then: I just bought the cheapest card with an nVidia chip, AGP8 and DVI out at my local computer shop: ASUS V9400-X/TD / NVIDIA (GeForce4) MX 4000 / 64Mb (but I only use 1280x1024). 39 Euros now. Works for me :-) You don't need a very fast card to watch movies. My Thinkpad T23 runs Xine very well with a Savage IX. I'd like to try X-Plane on Linux though - so I'm going to give a 6600GT a try. Did not have good experiences with ATI however. Thanks for your advice. As I said, I do NOT plan to watch movies. My only concerns are (a) support for the dell 2005fpw monitor in its native resolution (which i've forgotten but it's widescreen format) and (b) well supported under gentoo. Tomorrow I will try to buy a 6600GT board. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Monday, 23 January 2006 21:15, Simon Kellett wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depends a bit on what you want: basic stuff or 3d-gaming ! Basic stuff. Not into games, and I don't watch movies on my computer either. Same as me then: I just bought the cheapest card with an nVidia chip, AGP8 and DVI out at my local computer shop: ASUS V9400-X/TD / NVIDIA (GeForce4) MX 4000 / 64Mb (but I only use 1280x1024). 39 Euros now. Works for me :-) You don't need a very fast card to watch movies. My Thinkpad T23 runs Xine very well with a Savage IX. I'd like to try X-Plane on Linux though - so I'm going to give a 6600GT a try. Did not have good experiences with ATI however. Thanks for your advice. As I said, I do NOT plan to watch movies. My only concerns are (a) support for the dell 2005fpw monitor in its native resolution (which i've forgotten but it's widescreen format) and (b) well supported under gentoo. Tomorrow I will try to buy a 6600GT board. Resolution is 1680 x 1050. I do need to make sure the 6600 can do this with the Linux driver. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: which video card for dell2005fpw
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Monday, 23 January 2006 22:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Resolution is 1680 x 1050. I do need to make sure the 6600 can do this with the Linux driver. Here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,15118735 I read: Is it possible to have 1680*1050 displayed under Linux? Yeah, I have a nVidia 6600 GT and a Dell 2005FPW and it works perfectly. and here: http://forum.hardware.fr/hardwarefr/OSAlternatifs/MDK10-xorg-geforce-6600gt-sujet-44968-1.htm on a french list, I found this Section Files # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. FontPath unix/:-1 EndSection Section ServerFlags #DontZap # disable CrtlAltBS (server abort) #DontZoom # disable CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- (resolution switching) AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse doesn't work EndSection Section Module Load dbe # Double-Buffering Extension Load v4l # Video for Linux Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx # 3D layer Load /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver keyboard Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout fr Option XkbOptions EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol ExplorerPS/2 Option Device /dev/mouse Option ZAxisMapping 6 7 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier monitor1 VendorName Generic ModelName Flat Panel 1280x1024 HorizSync 31.5-67 VertRefresh 50-75 # Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)? # 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync ModeLine 1024x48065.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vsync # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1280x800 ModeLine 1280x800 147.89 1280 1376 1512 1744 800 801 804 848 # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1680x1050 ModeLine 1680x1050 214.51 1680 1800 1984 2288 1050 1051 1054 1103 # Dell D800 and few Inspiron (16/10) 1920x1200 ModeLine 1920x1200 230 1920 1936 2096 2528 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync # TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output. # 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630 # 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync ModeLine 768x576 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 EndSection Section Device Identifier device1 Driver nvidia Option NvAgp 1 Option DPMS EndSection Section Screen Identifier screen1 Device device1 Monitor monitor1 DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection Display Depth 8 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 15 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 16 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection Subsection Display Depth 24 Virtual 1280 1024 EndSubsection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier layout1 InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer Screen screen1 EndSection It seems it did work, and these messages are dated December 2004. From various messages it appears that some users had no problems and other did have many. However, it looks to me that the 6600 GT does support 1680x1050. If you're not interrested in gaming, you might settle for a 6600 (not GT), they are slower cheaper but should otherwise be compatible. Excellent. Thank you very much! Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What mobile phone / PDA combination unit that syncs with Linux should I get?
Hey, when you find out, let me know as well. I think our only hope is to make our own. There is (I think) at least one open source cellphone project going on. Michael On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, David Dorward wrote: The contract on my mobile phone is coming up for renewal soon, so I'm shortly going to be in the market for a shiny new phone. (NB: I'm in the UK, so it is devices available in this country that I'm interested in). I'm looking for a few specific things... * Can talk to my Gentoo box * Has a calendar ... that can sync with Evolution * Has a keyboard or good handwriting recognition * Lets me write text files and then send them to my Gentoo box * Not /too/ expensive (Sub-?100 after the contract subsidy) Any recommendations for devices? Things that seem to fit are the Nokia Communicator replacement and various Pocket PC (eeek, Microsoft!) devices (although I don't know how well either of them work with Linux - Google kept turning up hits to review pages that had linux somewhere in the sidebar). -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.ukhttp://blog.dorward.me.uk -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware issues, probably overheating, help?
A long shot, but I had this happen once due to bad power supply. Is there a chance the power supply is failing? If you have an alternate supply, you may want to swap it out. Are you pushing it near its limits, perhaps with many disk drives? Can you remove some drives as a test? On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Mrugesh Karnik wrote: Hi, I've been having issues with the computer shutting down automatically. Makes me wonder if it's an over heating problem. The system (AMD Sempron 2500+, MSI K8M800 mobo, two Seagate HDDs, an LG DVD Burner and a GB of RAM) has developed a habit of shutting down or restarting randomly, no matter what OS I'm using. A few days ago, the system shut itself down. I pressed the start switch but it would not respond, instead the power LED just kept blinking. I thought it to be an overheating issue and let it cool off for a bit. It worked fine for a few days and then this phenomenon just kept repeating itself and the frequency increased. There were a few lockups in between too. This would happen when running and update world while running Azureus in KDE or even when I was doing something as trivial as just chatting. One day, the system refused to start. I pressed the start switch after a few minutes of such a shutdown and all that happened was I could see the power, HDD LEDs and the DVD burner's LED all glowing, but the monitor wouldn't start. The CPU fan would be working. I let the thing sleep for a few hours. Later, I though I'd just run memtest to check if the RAM modules aren't causing any trouble. The pc actually started this time, but as soon as the memtest86+ screen came up, the thing shut itself down once again. Next day, I had the system lock up twice while editing the BIOS settings. This time I decided to dig out the processor and take the board and the processor to the dealer for checkup. Turns out that the processor had got stuck to the heat sink. After separating and reinstalling the two, the system worked fine for a few days. Now, again, a couple of days ago, I had the shut down. This time I decided to keep the room as cool as possible and have been running the computer with the lid open. But then again, just a few minutes ago, I had the shutdown while compiling K3B while running KDE and Azureus. Since then I've put up ksensors to check the temperature constantly. It's showing a pretty neat 35C right now, running Azureus, Kmail and Kopete. Anyway, the point of this lng emails is that I haven't exactly pin pointed the problem. If anyone thinks this is something other than over heating, please reply. Thank you, Mrugesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware issues, probably overheating, help?
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, Emanuele Morozzi wrote: Mrugesh Karnik wrote: Hi, I've been having issues with the computer shutting down automatically. Makes me wonder if it's an over heating problem. The system (AMD Sempron 2500+, MSI K8M800 mobo, two Seagate HDDs, an LG DVD Burner and a GB of RAM) has developed a habit of shutting down or restarting randomly, no matter what OS I'm using. A few days ago, the system shut itself down. I pressed the start switch but it would not respond, instead the power LED just kept blinking. I thought it to be an overheating issue and let it cool off for a bit. It worked fine for a few days and then this phenomenon just kept repeating itself and the frequency increased. There were a few lockups in between too. This would happen when running and update world while running Azureus in KDE or even when I was doing something as trivial as just chatting. One day, the system refused to start. I pressed the start switch after a few minutes of such a shutdown and all that happened was I could see the power, HDD LEDs and the DVD burner's LED all glowing, but the monitor wouldn't start. The CPU fan would be working. I let the thing sleep for a few hours. Later, I though I'd just run memtest to check if the RAM modules aren't causing any trouble. The pc actually started this time, but as soon as the memtest86+ screen came up, the thing shut itself down once again. Next day, I had the system lock up twice while editing the BIOS settings. This time I decided to dig out the processor and take the board and the processor to the dealer for checkup. Turns out that the processor had got stuck to the heat sink. After separating and reinstalling the two, the system worked fine for a few days. Now, again, a couple of days ago, I had the shut down. This time I decided to keep the room as cool as possible and have been running the computer with the lid open. But then again, just a few minutes ago, I had the shutdown while compiling K3B while running KDE and Azureus. Since then I've put up ksensors to check the temperature constantly. It's showing a pretty neat 35C right now, running Azureus, Kmail and Kopete. Anyway, the point of this lng emails is that I haven't exactly pin pointed the problem. If anyone thinks this is something other than over heating, please reply. Thank you, Mrugesh 1. Tell us the Watts of the power supply (perhaps you'll have to change it) 2. Take the PC powered off and try extracting the video card and replugging it. 3. Try to change the plug you use to give power to the PC. 4. Try to discharge the bios and reconfigure it. Add to this to make sure the line cord is plugged in well, both at the wall and at the computer. I once replaced a power supply only to find that the line cord wasn't plugged in all the way. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sound recording software in gentoo
Visit the archives of the linux audio user mailing list. Better yet, join the list. There is plenty of software, and Gentoo is a popular distribution for it. M On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Denis wrote: I wanted to see if there's a way to set up a home recording mini-studio using Linux. In Windoze, there's things like Cubase, Ableton, Reason, Wavelab, etc... What's available in Linux for that purpose (recording, sequencing, mixing, sound effects), and which of those does Gentoo have in the Portage tree? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: On Apr 12, 2005 11:40 AM, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't it true though that the X-Box requires a hardware modification (like soldering in a new BIOS or something) in order to run Linux? Or is this no longer true? Yes, that's true. No, I think it's not true, or at least according to the Linux-xbox page: http://www.xbox-linux.org/FAQ#What_about_modchips.3F_Do_I_need_a_modchip.3F - Mark Thanks for finding that, Mark. I'm in the market for a cheap linux box and had discounted the xbox for this reason. Now I think it's exactly what I need. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Personal Video Recorders
Thanks Mark - I look forward to hearing your review. I'm almost tempted to run out right now (perhaps it's good that my lunch break has already passed) and buy an xbox! If I do anything, I will certainly post what I learn here as well. M On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: Michael, I'm being careful as I don't want to hurt my kid's XBox but apparently Dynebolics has a LiveCD that boots on XBox. I'm downloading it and intended to try booting it today or tomorrow and see what happens. If I could use that for playing PVR recorded video it would be great as the thing is always attached to the TV anyway. I'll report back if someone else doesn't chime in first. Take care, Mark On Apr 12, 2005 3:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: On Apr 12, 2005 11:40 AM, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't it true though that the X-Box requires a hardware modification (like soldering in a new BIOS or something) in order to run Linux? Or is this no longer true? Yes, that's true. No, I think it's not true, or at least according to the Linux-xbox page: http://www.xbox-linux.org/FAQ#What_about_modchips.3F_Do_I_need_a_modchip.3F - Mark Thanks for finding that, Mark. I'm in the market for a cheap linux box and had discounted the xbox for this reason. Now I think it's exactly what I need. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the recommended order of maintenance updates?
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Eric S. Johansson wrote: Dave Nebinger wrote: Reboots only come in if I build a new kernel. And it is often times easier to manually restart the services that have been updated rather than rebooting the box. I also suggest rebooting after major library updates to make sure that all executables and daemons are referencing the current version. Good point, Eric. Your point being that unless you stop and restart all running daemons or other executables, you can't be sure that an updated library is really being used. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] recommendation for/against USB and PS/2 KVM switch to work with gentoo
Years ago, I had a heck of a time finding a KVM switch that wouldn't cause my mouse to go crazy. It's time to get a new KVM switch, one that can support USB mice (but sadly still a PS/2 keyboard). Does anyone have any recommendations, for or against, KVM switches that play well with gentoo? Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Want suggestions for hardware and software for control of hydraulic system
Disclosure: I work for this company: www.makingthings.com USB to wide range of digital and analog inputs and outputs. High current outputs can directly drive solenoid valves. (You don't need to, but you can use the inputs for things like limit switches, various sensors e.g. temperature, pressure, position, etc.) Simple SDK runs on Linux (of course). I use it for my personal projects with gentoo. Uses the FTDI driver which is in the Linux kernel. You can download and play with the SDK right away (although of course you won't be controlling anything real until you buy some hardware). Sample applications. All software is free and downloadable by anyone. Hardware is very reasonably priced, in my opinion and in what we hear from customers and would-be customers. It's based on a modular network, so you can add more inputs and outputs if your needs grow. The first module you buy has the USB port, $189 for 4 analog inputs, 2 digital inputs, 2 digital outputs, and 2 PWM outputs. We do have a mailing list for users and would-be users, see link from our website. Best of all, perhaps, I'm on this list, so you have the ear of one of the engineers there :-) I'm happy to answer questions either on-list (if there is enough interest to make it on-topic) or off-list. Michael On Thu, 5 May 2005, Erik wrote: Hello, I have an idea to control a hydraulic system with software. Now I would like some suggestions for hardware and software. Sorry for my bad english, but I barely know what these things mean in swedish yet. I have never done anything like this before. This is what I have: A device that can be moved up and down with a lever that affects a hydraulic valve. There is a marker on the moving device. This marker moves along a fixed scale, so that the height of the device can be read. The lever can be pulled in 2 directions, to move the device up and down respectively. I often have to adjust the device to certain heights. That is a tedious task, because the scale is not so easy to read, and it is not easy to get good precision with the lever. What I want: I want to set the height numerically and have a program that adjusts the device to that height. All equipment that is attached to the device must resist vibrations, and preferrably also dust, sunlight and rain. The precision should be 1 mm and the measurement range something like 0 m to 1 m My idea: A sensor that senses the height, a computer controlled hydraulic valve and a program. I have found a sensor at http://www.parallax.com/dl/docs/prod/acc/PingDocs.pdf and I think I can do the necessary programming. I would like to connect this to a laptop with Gentoo, which has USB, IEEE1394, pccard and ethernet available. The cable may have to be 10 m long to keep the laptop away from the unfriendly environment. If you have done anything like this before, or know where I can find more information or know about some more specialized mailing list, I would appreciate your suggestions. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Which IMAP is happiest with gentoo?
I already have Postfix running and I happily read email on my server, but I'd like to read my email on my IMAP/SSL cellphone client. I've seen Courier, UW, and Cyrus, and perhaps there are others. Any recommendations, for or against? Currently I'm the only user, but I host about a dozen friend's websites, and perhaps someday they too would like email, so I'd like to be able to grow into that, but I don't feel I need a database to support a huge number of clients. I support these virtual domains directly from Postfix. Any other things I should be thinking about, or aware of? Thanks in advance, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which IMAP is happiest with gentoo?
Thanks for the excellent advice, Jonathan. Yes, I figured I'd have to move out of mbox sooner or later. I wonder if there are tools to convert mbox files to maildir format - I would guess yes. Michael On Fri, 13 May 2005, Jonathan Nichols wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I already have Postfix running and I happily read email on my server, but I'd like to read my email on my IMAP/SSL cellphone client. I've seen Courier, UW, and Cyrus, and perhaps there are others. Any recommendations, for or against? Currently I'm the only user, but I host about a dozen friend's websites, and perhaps someday they too would like email, so I'd like to be able to grow into that, but I don't feel I need a database to support a huge number of clients. I support these virtual domains directly from Postfix. Any other things I should be thinking about, or aware of? Thanks in advance, Michael Courier-IMAP is pretty easy to deal with. Cyrus can get.. uh.. out of hand, real easily. It's overkill for many situations. the guy that wrote courier is also very active on the courier-users mailing list too, which is a big plus. uw-imap the mbox format in general are outdated sometimes dangerous, imo. back in the days where emails were nice tiny, it worked a lot better.. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which IMAP is happiest with gentoo?
Wow. I caused quite a fuss, for which I'm very sorry. To explain: 1. I do know what hijacking a thread means, and I know that it is bad. 2. I did indeed start this thread by taking another email and changing the subject line. I didn't realize that this would still be connected to the previous thread, so while this was a mistake on my part, it was unintentional I am very sorry for the confusion I caused, and now I know not to do this again. By the way, how is the thread information retained, even if the subject line is changed? Sincerely, Michael On Sun, 15 May 2005, Stroller wrote: On May 15, 2005, at 12:07 am, THUFIR HAWAT wrote: On 5/14/05, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... And saying it will probably continue not to help, because you haven't said what thread hi-jacking is. Anyone who starts a new thread by replying to an old one changing the subject is unlikely to be doing so out of maliciousness. ... I brought it up again specifically because there was no acknowledgement when Michael was first called on it. And if accused in a mailing-list thread of dongle-flopping, many people would ignore that, too, not know what it means. Since I started the first thread, I felt entitled to do so. Very reasonably, I'd say. No, it wasn't a crime, but the confusion it created, as I said before, is annoying. Indeed. I regret saying anything about it, as I seem to be at fault for doing so. No, that's not the case. But saying you hi-jacked my thread to someone is just likely to be ignored if they don't know WTF you're on about. Anyone who does so is probably ignorant of what they've done and the problem it causes, so bitching about it will only help if you EXPLAIN. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which IMAP is happiest with gentoo?
Thanks Neil (also Ralph and Brett). Now I know. No more hijacked threads from me, I promise. Michael On Sun, 15 May 2005, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2005 11:56:32 +0200, Ralph Slooten wrote: When you press Reply those headers are automatically taken with it by your program. The only way to start a new thread is to physically start a new thread ;-) Some mailers do make it possible to be both lazy and correct at the same time. in Sylpheed-Claws, you can reply to a mail then select Options - Remove References to create a new thread. -- Neil Bothwick No, I'm *from* outer space, I only *work* in California. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which IMAP is happiest with gentoo?
I have a huge amount of old mail saved in mbox format. It's those that I need to convert. Anyway, Bill pointed us at this: http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/mb2md/ which seems to do exactly what I need. Michael On Sat, 14 May 2005, Stroller wrote: On May 13, 2005, at 6:45 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I figured I'd have to move out of mbox sooner or later. I wonder if there are tools to convert mbox files to maildir format - I would guess yes. Udoubtedly so, but it's easiest just to add your new IMAP account to the email client on which you access your old mboxes. You can thrn just drag drop messages to the server and delete the old POP3 accounts. Stroller. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cant build gcc on installation emerge --newuse system
Thanks for posting and filing this. I just received this error and was sure it was operator error (i.e. my fault). Is there any workaround, even if somewhat unefficient? I'm installing a test system so my main concern is getting a running system, even if it's not optimized in every possible way. Thanks, Michael On Sun, 29 May 2005, Khan wrote: Aaron Urbain wrote: * Running make LDFLAGS= STAGE1_CFLAGS=-O LIBPATH=/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.3.5-20050130 BOOT_CFLAGS= -O2 -march=i686 -pipe profiledbootstrap make: *** No rule to make target `profiledbootstrap'. Stop. Hmmm, this looks serious. I have filled a bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94318 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Good diagram app
On Tue, 31 May 2005, Bruno Lustosa wrote: Hello. I am in need of an application like Visio. I tried messing with dia, but it's still far from what I need, for it lacks lots of useful features. What program do the list recommend? Take a look at Inkscape. Many very nice features, some overlap with dia, some quite different. www.inkscape.org -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] recording with ALSA dmix? (TeamSpeak problems)
On Sun, 5 Jun 2005, [WINDOWS-1252] Peter Ga~^i wrote: Hi people, I am using kernel-builtin ALSA and dmix for sound, as my sound card doesn't support hardware mixing, but i can't make teamspeak work. I have read on the forums that dmix doesn't support full duplex, so i would like to ask if anyone knows of some hack to get sound recording/microphone work in this situation. Or should people without hardware mixing on their cards give up hope on recording and listening to multiple sound sources at once? Thanks for any hints. Peter -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi Peter, You should join, and ask this question, on the linux audio group, something like: http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/subscribelau.php They are a very helpful group. Good luck, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Best way to build a Minimal Gentoo
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Zac Medico wrote: Ow Mun Heng wrote: I'm talking about something stripped down. Perhaps not to a size of 8MB but something less than 100MB would be good. How does one do that? Have you seen this howto? http://gentoo-wiki.com/Embedded_Gentoo It recommends for you to chroot into a stage3 and then use the ROOT evironment variable to make portage install into an empty filesystem. Well, it I haven't I most certainly will this weekend then. Thanks. Anyone Else has experience with using GNAP? Gentoo Network Appliance Also, did you know about the gentoo-embedded mailing list? http://marc.10east.com/?l=gentoo-embeddedr=1w=2 Also this is invaluable: http://www.bulah.com/embeddedgentoo.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] blog software recommendation for gentoo?
I'd like to experiment with a blog as a way to track and collaborate on projects. Do any of you have recommendations, for or against, very simple blog software, ideally available in portage? I confess I'm a complete novice when it comes to blogs. Thanks Michaek -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] blog software recommendation for gentoo?
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, David D. Rea wrote: On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 02:53 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to experiment with a blog as a way to track and collaborate on projects. Do any of you have recommendations, for or against, very simple blog software, ideally available in portage? I confess I'm a complete novice when it comes to blogs. Thanks Michaek FWIW... If you're comfortable installing a masked package, I see that Wordpress is in Portage. I don't use it myself, but several of the blogs that I follow use it. There is a large library of freely-available templates, the features list is extensive, and it produces clean-looking RSS feeds for those of us who like to syndicate... Dave Thanks Dave. Looks promising. I see it requires mysql. Do you know of any blogs that do not? (I know, I should probably install mysql, and probably will, eventually...) M -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] blog software recommendation for gentoo?
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, A. Khattri wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2005, Dmitri Vassilenko wrote: [Blosxom](http://www.blosxom.com/) deals with plain text files. If you want a simple blogging engine, this is it. :) True but isn't it CGI-based? Is that a problem? Something I should be aware of? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] blog software recommendation for gentoo?
On Sat, 18 Jun 2005, A. Khattri wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True but isn't it CGI-based? Is that a problem? Something I should be aware of? For me yes. Every incoming request launches the CGI that generates the web page. Unless you're using mod_perl (or choose to publish static pages), you take a performance hit. PHP-based blogs are better IMHO. Good point. Thanks for explaining. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo 2005.1 and FTDI USB/serial adapter: device not created
To answer my own question, I just had to make the device using mknod. Now my FTDI device works! Thanks, Michael On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Gentoo 2005.1, kernel 2.6.12 gentoo r10. I have a USB device that uses the FTDI driver (in the kernel) to make the device appear as a serial port. When I plug in the device I get the following in my syslog: Sep 18 03:31:23 (none) usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 Sep 18 03:31:23 (none) ftdi_sio 2-1:1.0: FTDI FT232BM Compatible converter detected Sep 18 03:31:23 (none) usb 2-1: FTDI FT232BM Compatible converter now attached to ttyUSB0 but alas, there is no /dev/ttyUSB0. Any suggestions of where I might look for what went wrong? Below are the config parameters that relate to USB. Thanks in advance, Michael grep -i usb .config USB devices CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO is not set CONFIG_SND_USB_USX2Y is not set USB support CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y CONFIG_USB=y CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set Miscellaneous USB options CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is not set CONFIG_USB_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND is not set CONFIG_USB_OTG is not set USB Host Controller Drivers CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO is not set CONFIG_USB_EHCI_ROOT_HUB_TT is not set CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=y # CONFIG_USB_OHCI_BIG_ENDIAN is not set CONFIG_USB_OHCI_LITTLE_ENDIAN=y CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_SL811_HCD is not set USB Device Class drivers CONFIG_USB_AUDIO is not set CONFIG_USB_BLUETOOTH_TTY is not set CONFIG_USB_MIDI is not set CONFIG_USB_ACM is not set CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=y NOTE: USB_STORAGE enables SCSI, and 'SCSI disk support' may also be needed; see USB_STORAGE Help for more information CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DEBUG is not set CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DATAFAB is not set CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_FREECOM is not set CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_ISD200 is not set CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DPCM is not set CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_USBAT is not set CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR09 is not set CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR55 is not set CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_JUMPSHOT is not set USB Input Devices CONFIG_USB_HID=y CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV is not set CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK is not set CONFIG_USB_WACOM is not set CONFIG_USB_KBTAB is not set CONFIG_USB_POWERMATE is not set CONFIG_USB_MTOUCH is not set CONFIG_USB_EGALAX=m CONFIG_USB_XPAD is not set CONFIG_USB_ATI_REMOTE is not set USB Imaging devices CONFIG_USB_MDC800 is not set CONFIG_USB_MICROTEK is not set USB Multimedia devices CONFIG_USB_DABUSB is not set Video4Linux support is needed for USB Multimedia device support USB Network Adapters CONFIG_USB_CATC is not set CONFIG_USB_KAWETH is not set CONFIG_USB_PEGASUS is not set CONFIG_USB_RTL8150 is not set CONFIG_USB_USBNET is not set CONFIG_USB_ZD1201 is not set CONFIG_USB_MON=y USB port drivers CONFIG_USB_USS720 is not set USB Serial Converter support CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=y CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CONSOLE is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_GENERIC is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_AIRPRIME is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_BELKIN is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_WHITEHEAT is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_DIGI_ACCELEPORT is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CP2101 is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CYPRESS_M8 is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_EMPEG is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO=y CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_VISOR is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_IPAQ is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_IR is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_EDGEPORT is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_EDGEPORT_TI is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_GARMIN is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_IPW is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KEYSPAN_PDA is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KEYSPAN is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KLSI is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KOBIL_SCT is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_MCT_U232 is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_PL2303 is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_HP4X is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_SAFE is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_TI is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CYBERJACK is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_XIRCOM is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_OMNINET is not set USB Miscellaneous drivers CONFIG_USB_EMI62 is not set CONFIG_USB_EMI26 is not set CONFIG_USB_AUERSWALD is not set CONFIG_USB_RIO500 is not set CONFIG_USB_LEGOTOWER is not set CONFIG_USB_LCD is not set CONFIG_USB_LED is not set CONFIG_USB_CYTHERM=m # CONFIG_USB_PHIDGETKIT is not set CONFIG_USB_PHIDGETSERVO=m CONFIG_USB_IDMOUSE is not set CONFIG_USB_SISUSBVGA is not set CONFIG_USB_TEST is not set USB ATM/DSL drivers USB Gadget Support CONFIG_USB_GADGET is not set -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new gentoo installed but can't boot: Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk And Press Enter
Thanks for the suggestion, Walter. Yes, I did have the jumper set to master, as appropriate. But see my next post. Michael On Sun, 18 Sep 2005, Walter Dnes wrote: On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 12:06:57AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Thanks for the idea. As I've said, I've been using this computer pretty solidly with no indication, but that's not to say it can't happen. Your suggestion made me look at the BIOS boot stage and I notice that my hard drive is not reported during the BIOS boot. I have no problems running fdisk or mounting, but when booting the BIOS does not report it. What could cause this? Perhaps as you suggest? Can you check the jumpers on the drive? In the old days, there were just master and slave. Now there's a 3rd option cable select, which may be abbreviated as CS. It works automagically with Windows but it does *NOT* work with linux. If the jumper is set CS, set it to master and try booting from it again. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new gentoo installed but can't boot: Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk And Press Enter
Thanks John. None of your suggestions turned up the problem directly, but they did get me thinking and I tried the same disk on different connectors and at different settings. I found that I can boot from the primary slave device and the secondary master device. I didn't try the secondary slave device. The only one that reliable fails is the primary master device. I did try resetting my BIOS settings to the default. Weird, huh? Some day I'll come back and try to figure out why this is the case. Meanwhile, though, I just reconfigured my grub settings and moved on. Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Michael On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, John Myers wrote: On Saturday 17 September 2005 21:47, Walter Dnes wrote: Can you check the jumpers on the drive? In the old days, there were just master and slave. Now there's a 3rd option cable select, which may be abbreviated as CS. It works automagically with Windows but it does *NOT* work with linux. If the jumper is set CS, set it to master and try booting from it again. Good thinking, except that it's failing in the BIOS. Linux has nothing to do with it. I would suggest checking the jumpers (if it's a PATA disk), unplugging and replugging the signal cable (at both ends), and unplugging and replugging the power cable. If you have access to one, try with a different signal cable, and try with a different lead from your PSU Also might check for bad a bad CMOS battery, and check the BIOS settings, ensuring all your controller hasn't accidentally been turned off. You might also try wiggling the block of connectors on the drive. I happen to have a funky SATA Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 which stops my system booting if the connector block is jostled the wrong way. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new gentoo installed but can't boot: Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk And Press Enter
Hi gentuxx, As you may have seen in my reply to another helpful person, same disk worked on a different setting (primary slave instead of primary master). perhaps the disk is going bad, although it's only a couple years old. Thanks for your suggestion, Michael On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, gentuxx wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've been using my computer for awhile and decided to upgrade to gentoo 2005.1. Since there is nothing important on this system I decide to install from scratch. I follow the quickinstall howto and reference the installation manual for 2005.1 and my own notes, as I've installed perhaps 8 or so gentoo systems. I'm using the Universal 2005.1 live CDROM. Everything proceeds well, including installing grub, setting up grub.conf and running grub-install, and when I'm finished I exit the chroot environment, umount my root and boot partitions, and reboot. It fails, with the dreaded message Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk And Press Enter. I boot the live CD again, double check my grub.conf file, run grub-install again, check with fdisk that my boot partition is bootable, and try again. Same result. I'm mystified. I've been using this computer for developing systems over the past few months and have rebooted it many, many times, with no difficulty. I figure it's failing very early if I'm not even getting into grub. Any ideas? Any suggestions for what to test, inspect, try? Thanks, Michael - From my experience, this is typical of a bad disk. I have a system that gives the exact same error. Usually, for me, a reboot solves it, and it loads the OS. But I happen to know that my disk is on it's last legs. ;-) If you have another disk lying around, or could get another one, I would try the install, using the same method you used, and see if you have the same problem. - -- gentux echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDK8f4LYGSSmmWCZMRAuY9AKDoJAUp7VBtD+W4mYA6FdVP3uHLvQCgmmXS X8hFXo6X3RLuFvsIeuFwysQ= =B2/n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] what exactly does rc-update modify?
I'm ashamed to say that although I've been using Gentoo for awhile now, and installed on over a dozen computers, I use rc-update without knowing exactly what it changes. Right now I'm putting Gentoo on a Compact Flash card for a robot. I have a parallel setup on a hard disk, and I do all my emerging and configuring on the hard drive, then copy over just what I need to the Compact Flash card. I added a wireless network card, so I ran rc-update to configure it upon booting. I have a configuration I'm happy with on the hard disk, so the question is, what files were modified by rc-update that I need to modify on the CF card? Thanks, Michael P.s. this robot needs a gentoo inside sticker... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what exactly does rc-update modify?
Argh! I should have checked to see if it was a script. That would have saved a lot of time. Thanks! Michael On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, Mike Williams wrote: On Friday 23 September 2005 23:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added a wireless network card, so I ran rc-update to configure it upon booting. I have a configuration I'm happy with on the hard disk, so the question is, what files were modified by rc-update that I need to modify on the CF card? /etc/runlevels rc-update itself is fairly simple bash script too. -- Mike Williams -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] a bit confused by emerge blockers
emerge told me that pine was blocking something, so I did an emerge --pretend to see what: emerge -Duv --newuse world Calculating world dependencies ...done! !!! Error: the mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 package conflicts with another package.!!!both can't be installed on the same system together. !!!Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine blockers. # emerge --pretend pine These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [blocks B ] mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 (is blocking net-mail/uw-mailutils-2004g) [ebuild N] net-mail/uw-mailutils-2004g [ebuild U ] mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 [4.61-r2] I tried to remove pine, figuring I'd emerge it later after I finished my big emerge -Duv world, but I get this: emerge -e mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: =mail-client/pine Calculating dependencies !!! Problem in mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 dependencies. !!! Specific key requires an operator (mail-client/pine-4.64-r1) (try adding an '=') exceptions What's the best way to resolve this? My goal is to update everything as it's been awhile since I last updated (over a year). Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] a bit confused by emerge blockers
I don't understand. Where do I add the =? What do I put before or after the =? Here is the result of emerge pine. Not much better: # emerge pine Calculating dependencies ...done! !!! Error: the mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 package conflicts with another package.!!!both can't be installed on the same system together. !!!Please use 'emerge --pretend' to determine blockers. Michael On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Freitag, 4. November 2005 06:46 schrieb ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]: emerge -e mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 --- Invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.keywords: =mail-client/pine Calculating dependencies !!! Problem in mail-client/pine-4.64-r1 dependencies. !!! Specific key requires an operator (mail-client/pine-4.64-r1) (try adding an '=') exceptions Do as it is written there: add a =. Or simply emerge pine HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstra?e 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 D?sseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net
Re: [gentoo-user] a bit confused by emerge blockers
That was it - thanks very much! Michael On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Freitag, 4. November 2005 07:21 schrieb ext [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't understand. Where do I add the =? What do I put before or after the =? Sorry didn't read that you tried to use -e to remove pine. There was a weird dependency problem with pine and uw-mailutils. Your idea to remove pine and re-emerge it later was indeed right, but -e (aka --emptytree) doesn't remove. Use emerge unmerge pine emerge pine. HTH... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstra??e 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 D??sseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net
Re: [gentoo-user] What is recommended behavior for complete updating of an old system ?
If ever there was a frequently asked question, it's this, or the general family of what's the best way to do an update in this situation?, like: What is a recommended way to update an old system to minimize the amount of broken ebuilds? What's the best way to do an update of an old machine that takes a long time to compile, or an embedded system? What's the best way to keep a machine completely up-to-date with the very latest, stability be damned?? What's the best way to keep a machine reasonably up-to-date, while keeping the machine stable and running? I couldn't find any of these in a FAQ on the gentoo website. Perhaps it's there and I missed it. But if indeed this FAQ lacks an answer, can we compose one from this discussion? Michael On Fri, 11 Nov 2005, Bob Sanders wrote: On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:46:41 +0100 Jimmy Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Primary: What is a recommended way to update an old system to minimize the amount of broken ebuilds? Is emerge --emptytree world a good idea? Is it better than a clean install? Or is the documentation's way good enough even for a very old system: emerge --update --deep --newuse world emerge --depclean revdep-rebuild For an old machine that takes a long time to compile, or an embedded system - emerge sync once per week and let it run over the weekend doing updates. About once per year - - emerge sync - ufed and check out the USE flags. Some changes occur and they need a bit of cleaning. - emerge -eav system (no need to d world.) - emerge -uDNav world - python-updater - perl-cleaner all - revdep-rebuild I have an unexplainable fobia against --depclean though. Then don't. All you care about is the programs you currently use, those others just sit there taking some space. If you're not obsessive about a little disk space, why wipe them off the disk? And updating everything at once seems a bit reckless, I mean with the age of the system it would update almost everything. The package list was a mile long, and you never know what will break. That's why you should keep on a regular update schedule. A lot of programs get fixed, USE flags change, dependencies change, configuration options get updated. Secondary: How often should one update the system to minimize hassles with broken packages? Me? I do most of my working systems daily - takes about 10 minutes for all 4 systems. Home systems - daily or weekly. Laptop monthly. Better to see a small problem show up than wait for it to be buried in a lot of updates and then have to find out which of 10 or 20 packages caused the issue. Too often, and the hassle of constant upgrading can get tedious even if it works ok, and too late, and some odd dysfunctional version combinations start showing up that the packages were not really tested for, leading to broken ebuilds. Have you run other distributions where you get the massive binary updates 3 times per year? Have you had to fun of doing minor package updates in between the massive updates and then find that the massive update leaves your system completely borked because of conflicts with the minor updates? And I mean you don't see these until the system tries to reboot, and then it sometimes won't do that. I did like this: I didn't want to run a clean install or an --emptytree thingie. I wanted to take it a few steps at a time, so that if something broke I might have an idea about what new packages it was that broke it. 1) take a backup of the system. I have some modifications in /etc/init.d scripts and some extra non-gentoo stuff for clustering installed that I didn't want to risk, and I was pretty sure something would bork and leave me clueless. lol 2) emerge sync. Nice, worked. emerge *only the most important stuff* (oh, I'm really chicken btw): portage, baselayout, etc. That brought in some dependencies, but it worked out all right after a while and a lot of figuring out the /etc/init.d and config file changes that has happened for the last 1.5 years. And some other changes as to where certain configs go, and how, and so on. But most was easily searchable in docs or forums.gentoo or on this list. Reboot here to see if it even booted any more... YEEAAAH! 3) emerge basic user packages like gcc, glibc, xorg (yes I was still on xfree) kernel, etc. note: I have to stay on 2.4 because I use openmosix for the clustering, and I don't yet trust 2.6om. For this I started using --update --deep since I did want an updated system, but not all at once. This still worked out all right, with just some minor headaches of broken ebuilds. And some config files again. hrmmpf kernel change means reboot. darned. 4) emerge --update --deep desktop stuff like KDE, openoffice, browsers
[gentoo-user] how to find if a program is using a particular /dev device?
I have a custom device driver in /dev/ that can only be used by one program at a time. Since the device is /dev/ttyUSB0, I can see if anyone is using it by: ls -l /proc/*/fd/* | grep ttyUSB0 Is there a utility or other better way I can discover which process, or better, which program, is using a particular device? Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to find if a program is using a particular /dev device?
That was it. Thanks! M On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, John Myers wrote: On Thursday 17 November 2005 23:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a custom device driver in /dev/ that can only be used by one program at a time. Since the device is /dev/ttyUSB0, I can see if anyone is using it by: ls -l /proc/*/fd/* | grep ttyUSB0 Is there a utility or other better way I can discover which process, or better, which program, is using a particular device? Thanks, Michael try lsof -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to find if a program is using a particular /dev device?
Excellent. That's very helpful as well. Michael On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, 18 Nov 2005 00:48:19 -0800 (PST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was it. Thanks! M you could also try strace -eopen programname It will give a pretty verbose account of what files are opened by programname. (and of course devices, like everything else, are files) On Fri, 18 Nov 2005, John Myers wrote: On Thursday 17 November 2005 23:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a custom device driver in /dev/ that can only be used by one program at a time. Since the device is /dev/ttyUSB0, I can see if anyone is using it by: ls -l /proc/*/fd/* | grep ttyUSB0 Is there a utility or other better way I can discover which process, or better, which program, is using a particular device? Thanks, Michael try lsof -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] dovecot problem
I'm having a problem with dovecot. I upgraded dovecot yesterday to 0.99.14-r1, although dovecot --version still claims to be 0.99.14 Here's the info: bullet ~ # /etc/init.d/dovecot start * Starting dovecot ... * [ ok ]bullet ~ # /etc/init.d/dovecot status * status: started bullet ~ # ps ax | grep 'dovecot' 10223 pts/1S+ 0:00 grep dovecot bullet ~ # netstat | grep '143' bullet ~ # /etc/init.d/dovecot stop * Stopping dovecot ... * [ !! ] I checked the logs for recent occurrences of dovecot and this is all I found: Nov 25 11:46:09 bullet pop3-login: fd_send(-1) failed: Broken pipe Nov 25 11:46:09 bullet pop3-login: fd_send(-1) failed: Broken pipe Nov 25 11:46:09 bullet pop3-login: fd_send(-1) failed: Broken pipe I don't know how to fix a broken pipe. Any advice? espersunited.com addresses are still receiving mail, but in order to actually read it we have to sshell over to bullet and use mutt, which is somewhat inconvenient as our users are more accustomed to GUI mail clients... -Michael Sullivan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Video capture card recommendations
There's an article in this month's Linux Journal about MythTV, and they mention the Hauppauge PVR-150. They also mention Gentoo as the best distribution for MythTV! M On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, James Ausmus wrote: On 11/28/05, Budd, Tracy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just need a bare-bones card to make backups of my VCR tapes and DVDs. Not even interested in a TV-tuner though I guess they all include that. Gentoo support is a must. I've had great luck with the Hauppauge PVR-150 - ~$100. I'm running Gentoo, MythTV, etc, no problems at all. It does hardwaree MPEG2 compression, so it doesn't even bother your CPU - my MythTV back-end server is a Celeron 500MHz -James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Succinct compilation of system info...
This seems to have tremendous potential. Having all this information in one standard form allows you to take snapshots of your system, and then if things break you can compare snapshots before and after to possibly get a hint of where to focus. This will be especially true when you add the ability to list packages and software installed. It could also be useful when trying to help solve a problem, especially remotely. Why not set this up as a sourceforge project? M On Tue, 29 Nov 2005, darren kirby wrote: quoth the Harry Putnam: I'm sure many such scripts have been written in the past 35yrs. I hoped a few would have become famous and available by name that I could simply edit. Perhaps so, but I decided to write one anyway. Just 'stroking the beard' I guess. It is in python, as I cannot stand Perl. I have only spent a few hours on this, so it is still rough around the edges (ie: there is virtually no error checking so far), but good enough to post now I think. I will spend the next few days polishing it up. Problems with it: 1. For now, it only works properly on single cpu systems. If you have 2+ cpu's it will just print Couldn't get cpu info 2. Hardware is just a dump of 'lspci'; user and group is just a dump of /etc/passwd and /etc/group. I will fix this so that it actually displays a useful report in the next few days... 3. May not work on systems with hardware I don't have ;) That is, I have not tested with devices such as tape drives, raid arrays etc...so the script might break with this sort of input (or perhaps just ignore it) 4. No package/software listing yet. I want to do this in a distro neutral way. What it does so far: 1. print meta info: hostname, distro, architecture (ie i686) 2. cpu details: model, speed, cache, bogomips 3. memory and memory usage details (including swap) 4. kernel information: version, uptime, cmdline, loaded modules, supported filesystems etc... 5. hardware (lspci for now...) 6. network info: interfaces, ip address, broadcast, netmask, MAC, default GW, nameservers 7. mounted devices: net mounts, pseudo mounts, disk usage 8. Users, groups I would like to do this thing right, so if you (anybody!) has ideas, advice, requests etc please try it out and let's talk. Am I missing anything that should be printed? As mentioned, I have tomorrow free, so I will plug away at it more then... You can download at: http://badcomputer.org/unix/code/sysinfo.py.gz or just view and cut/paste the code from: http://badcomputer.org/unix/code/sysinfo.bot -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Seeking USB help
Hi, I have an ancient Dell Inspiron 3000 running Gentoo with a 2.6.14 kernel. I'm trying to get USB to work. # grep USB .config | grep =y$ CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y CONFIG_USB=y CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_OHCI_LITTLE_ENDIAN=y CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=y CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DEBUG=y CONFIG_USB_HID=y CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y CONFIG_USB_MON=y But when I plug something into the USB port, lsusb shows nothing: # lsusb Bus 001 Device 001: ID : (The two USB devices I have tried are a Logiteh Trackman Wheel and a Creative Webcam Notebook) This is what lshw has to say about USB: *-usb description: USB Controller (UHCI) product: 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 1.2 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:01.2 version: 01 clock: 33MHz capabilities: uhci bus_master configuration: driver=uhci_hcd resources: ioport:fcc0-fcdf irq:10 And this is what's in my /proc filesystem: # cat /proc/bus/usb/devices T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2 B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 2.06 S: Manufacturer=Linux 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 uhci_hcd S: Product=UHCI Host Controller S: SerialNumber=:00:01.2 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=c0 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms In contrast, if I plug the camera into a Linux system with a working USB, I get much more, including: T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=02 Dev#= 3 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=041e ProdID=401f Rev= 1.00 Which is indeed the Creative webcam, so I know it is working at least to that extent. What am I missing to get USB working on my laptop? Any suggestions? Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Seeking USB help
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Christoph Eckert wrote: What am I missing to get USB working on my laptop? Any suggestions? Is hotplug running? It should handle all module loading stuff for you. This is what /etc/init.d/hotplug says: # nothing here anymore. Please use the coldplug package if you really # want to # load modules for devices that are discovered by your kernel before # init runs. # # However, please realize that if you have any problems, the developers # recommend just using the modules.autoload functionality to handle this # in a # much simpler manner. # Is that true? No more hotplug? That doesn't seem right, especially given your comment. Is it possible I have an old version of the hotplug script? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Let's make a map of Gentoo users
You guys are still awake!?!? When I signed up (about half an hour ago) I was the only one in San Francisco! What's up with that? What a great idea, b.n.! Thanks! Michael On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, b.n. wrote: pclouds wrote: Hi all, We've got a map of Gentoo users here: http://www.frappr.com/gentoo It's currently 95 users but I don't think Gentoo community is that small. If you don't mind, please add yourself to the map :) Cheers, Cool...It seems Poland is a bit overcrowded... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Let's make a map of Gentoo users
Remember the old Unix message You don't exist; go away? I presume Google has a feedback form. Good luck, M On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Alan E. Davis wrote: This map won't accept my location---Saipan, N. Mariana Islands. We DO have a zip code, which the map widgets say is an invalid zip code. It also doesn't recognize this city. I've gotta say it, after living on small islands for the last 20 years, and living on the fringe of connectivity. We have been dealing for years with low quality widgets that give us a selection of states or locations that do not include us. Often we cannot purchase from companies that use such widgets. This is one of the worst I've seen. Why isn't there a Latitude/Longitude choice? 15oN 145oE, GMT+10 Alan Davis On 12/7/05, Matthias Langer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-12-06 at 23:44 +0200, Paul wrote: Not any more Ryan On 12/6/05, Ryan Viljoen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys are still awake!?!? When I signed up (about half an hour ago) I was the only one in San Francisco! What's up with that? What a great idea, b.n.! Thanks! Michael On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, b.n. wrote: Yup currently I am the only South African and one of 3 in the Southern Hemisphere. -- When you say I wrote a program that crashed Windows, people just stare at you blankly and say Hey, I got those with the system, for free. - Linus Torvalds, 1995 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Nice idea - it seems that i'm the first gentoo user from austria :-) Matthias -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Let's make a map of Gentoo users
Oh! Well whoever thought of the idea, thanks! M On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, b.n. wrote: What a great idea, b.n.! Thanks! You're welcome, but that's not my idea... m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Optical mouse lights off on kernel 2.6.14 but works on kernel 2.4.30
By the way, isn't it true that a simple make will make both the kernel and the modules now? Or am I dreaming? M On Tue, 6 Dec 2005, Richard Fish wrote: On 12/6/05, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude. I'm telling you. I had the same problem. This isn't a X or device issue. You don't have USB compiled into the kernel or running as a module. Just make sure you have all the UHCI stuff checked and do a make clean all modules module_install install (or something to that effect). Then reboot. I doubt this will help...from the OPs original message this is a PS/2 mouse connected to a PS/2 port. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] lightweight webcam server for embedded gentoo?
I've built a somewhat embedded gentoo system that I use on a robot. I'm adding a webcam, which is a brand new field for me. I'm not even sure how to define what I'm looking for. I'm not using embedded-gentoo because I wanted to use the standard libc and not uclibc. I'd like to be able to stream video from the webcam. I don't need full tv quality - even a jpeg every second or so will be fine. Trouble is, all the software I've found so far assumes X and many other heavy libraries. All I want is to capture jpeg images - I could write the TCP/IP server part myself. I'm using a creative notebook webcam and the spca5xx driver. There is a suite of applications in a package called spcaview but it depends on X. Can anyone suggest a solution, or at least a path of further research? Perhaps what I'm looking for is a framegrabber and not a full webcam server? Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lightweight webcam server for embedded gentoo?
Thanks Hans, Although not exactly what I was looking for, your reply got me on the right path. I found a number: camE, camsource, gqcam, etc. camE seems the best for me, especially since it can operate as a true server with no X, which all the others seem to require (correct me if I'm wrong). And I actually got camE to work! Very exciting. First time I've made a webcam image myself. However, when camE is running, my system slows to a crawl. I've tried to set parameters to slow things down, thinking that too high a framerate is the problem, but even at a very low framerate the system is so slow that if I hit a key in a shell, I get a response in about 5 minutes. Yes, that's minutes. Any ideas? Michael On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Hi, On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 01:29:23 -0800 (PST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to be able to stream video from the webcam. I don't need full tv quality - even a jpeg every second or so will be fine. Trouble is, all the software I've found so far assumes X and many other heavy libraries. All I want is to capture jpeg images - I could write the TCP/IP server part myself. try out mplayer. You'll probably want to reduce its features to a minimum. Maybe you're better off compiling it from source yourself, circumventing portage. You'll want support for v4l(2) and jpeg. OTOH, there's VLC. This may be a good bet, too. It's specifically designed to do this kind of job. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lightweight webcam server for embedded gentoo?
Looks perfect. I'll try it out tonight. I have camE working, but it's not so lightweight. Thanks, Michael On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Jonathan Nichols wrote: tv quality - even a jpeg every second or so will be fine. Trouble is, all the software I've found so far assumes X and many other heavy libraries. All I want is to capture jpeg images - I could write the TCP/IP server part myself. This *might* be close to what you're looking for. It's lightweight and runs great. http://paginas.terra.com.br/informatica/gleicon/video4linux/videodog.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] what's a good very small http server?
Any suggestions welcome. If you want to tell me why you like it or don't like it even better. Should depend on as few other packages as possible. Should occupy as little memory as possible (both RAM and disk space). I'm running out of Compact Flash, if that makes any difference. Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what's a good very small http server?
Hi Chris, Thanks for the tip. It's actually pretty fancy for something called light. I found another quite trivial one called mini-httpd which i got running very quickly on my non-embedded system. Next step is to move it to the embedded system. Thanks Michael On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Chris White wrote: On Monday 12 December 2005 16:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any suggestions welcome. If you want to tell me why you like it or don't like it even better. Should depend on as few other packages as possible. Should occupy as little memory as possible (both RAM and disk space). I'm running out of Compact Flash, if that makes any difference. There's lighthttp or some such.. haven't tried it myself though. Thanks, Michael Chris White -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] mouse detected, but no /dev/mice
hiya, I have two USB mice. Dmesg shows them being detected, but there is no /dev/mice nor /dev/mouse. Any suggestions? Here is the dmesg usb section. The mice are usb 3-1 and usb 3-2: ehci_hcd :00:10.3: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 ehci_hcd :00:10.3: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 ehci_hcd :00:10.3: irq 5, io mem 0xde001000 ehci_hcd :00:10.3: USB 2.0 initialized, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004 hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 6 ports detected ohci_hcd: 2004 Nov 08 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI) USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2 uhci_hcd :00:10.0: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller uhci_hcd :00:10.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 uhci_hcd :00:10.0: irq 11, io base 0xd400 hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected uhci_hcd :00:10.1: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (#2) uhci_hcd :00:10.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 uhci_hcd :00:10.1: irq 10, io base 0xd800 hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected uhci_hcd :00:10.2: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (#3) uhci_hcd :00:10.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4 uhci_hcd :00:10.2: irq 12, io base 0xdc00 hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected usbcore: registered new driver usbhid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.01:USB HID core driver usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca_core.c: USB SPCA5XX camera found. Type Creative Webcam Notebook Zc301+Tas5130c usbcore: registered new driver spca5xx drivers/usb/media/spca5xx/spca_core.c: spca5xx driver 00.57.06LE registered usb 3-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [MosArt Optical Mouse] on usb-:00:10.1-1 usb 3-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 input: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [MosArt Optical Mouse] on usb-:00:10.1-2 usbcore: registered new driver usbserial drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core v2.0 drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for FTDI SIO drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for FTDI 8U232AM Compatible drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for FTDI FT232BM Compatible drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for FTDI FT2232C Compatible drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for USB-UIRT Infrared Tranceiver drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for Home-Electronics TIRA-1 IR Transceiver ftdi_sio 2-1:1.0: FTDI FT232BM Compatible converter detected usb 2-1: FTDI FT232BM Compatible converter now attached to ttyUSB0 usbcore: registered new driver ftdi_sio drivers/usb/serial/ftdi_sio.c: v1.4.2:USB FTDI Serial Converters Driver oprofile: using timer interrupt. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mouse detected, but no /dev/mice
There they are, and they both work. I feel so dumb. Thanks very much Holly, Michael On Mon, 13 Mar 2006, Holly Bostick wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: hiya, I have two USB mice. Dmesg shows them being detected, but there is no /dev/mice nor /dev/mouse. Any suggestions? If you're using udev, the devices should be found in /dev/input/mice. At least that's where mine is. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] skype experiences: good/bad/etc
I've been hearing some good things about Gizmo, for one, that it's more Linux-friendly. Haven't tried it myself yet. Anybody have anything to say about gizmo? M On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Ralph Slooten wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Weisberger wrote: Apparently Skype has been working furiously on a newer version where alsa support and the like will be built in, but I'm waiting to see that one. Just to give a little inside heads-up ~ Firstly I would not call it furiously ... it's more like when they have time. Yes it's true that alsa-support is being developed, and the current beta-beta builds (not available to the public) use alsa, but since they released their first alsa-supporting version until the present it has _never_ worked on either of my gentoo machines. I do beta testing for Skype btw. Some users on other distros (like redhat) report success, but I still have to find a gentoo-user who has. The idea of alsa is great, but the fact that it's all pre-compiled delivers the issue of compatibility problems with the different alsa versions. So don't hold your breath ;-) I think the current public release of Skype will be around for quite a long time, until either: a) they get more personal to develop the Linux port b) they open up certain parts of the application (like it's alsa integration) for self-compiling (like vmware and it's modules) which imho would solve some compatibility issues. They also have to eventually rebuild the whole Skype application too it seems, as it has many design flaws apparently. I'm not saying security flaws though, just limitations due to it's design. That being said though, I still think Skype is great. I use it quite a bit from time to time with good friends and all the main features work pretty darn well, even with plain OSS-emulation (/dev/dsp). Greetings, Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEIZawCt0ZF9kLPvYRAsIcAKCEyWFawXSBLVdUq2NtuVdmLOpUbgCfQk7p jh40V6tRLCTO6S5UfWMvYGw= =PctS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Intel Core Duo Processor - Anyone?
Always interesting discussions on this list. I have two questions for everyone (not just the person I'm responding to): How soon do you think we'll see laptops with the Dual Core Turion64? Elsewhere (perhaps on this list on a different topic) someone recommended not buying anything except for 64 bits (either AMD or Intel) from now on. Do you agree, in particular regarding laptops? M On Wed, 29 Mar 2006, Mike Myers wrote: Are you sure that it was a Pentium M and not a Pentium4-M or just the p4s? There is a signicant difference. With all the benchmarks I've seen, the Pentium Ms beat all the other processors in terms of power consumption and heat and in a lot of cases, performance. it even outdoes the P4s and the FX series amds. Tomshardware even has benchmarks claiming such a thing (which is odd since they're usually anti-intel). It is after all, a souped up P3 which allows it to have a faster clock speed than the p4s even when running with fewer ghz. Lord Sauron wrote: http://www-131.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=4611686018425155337storeId=1001langId=-1categoryId=2059153dualCurrId=173catalogId=-840 That's the cheapest X60 with Core Duo. HOWEVER: I'd still highly recommend a AMD Turion. Well... I'd even more strongly suggest just waiting, all you prospective laptop buyers. A Dual Core Turion64 is coming *very* soon. The Turion64s murdered the Pentium M processors in not just speed but power efficiency. My Athlon1400 could kill a Pentium 4 2.4GHz any time. My Athlon64 can destroy the fastest non-dual core Pentium 4 (extreme editions exempted - I don't know anyone with one to compare the performance with). Acer makes good laptops with AMD chips. Just for laughs, Intel just released a new Pentium4 Ext.Ed. (Dual core, 955) to counter the FX-60 from AMD. PC World tested the chip... the FX-60 was ~30% faster while being about $30 cheaper. Okay, I'll stop evangelising AMD now. Thanks for listening (it makes me feel somewhat important). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] can't emerge libMagick: ERROR: media-gfx/imagemagick-6.2.5.5 failed
I saw someone ask this question a few days ago but didn't see the answer. Nothing on the 'net that I could find. Anyone have any ideas? Last time I did an emerge world may have been almost a month ago. if i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I./magick -I./wand -I. -I. -I./Magick++/lib -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/X11 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -O3 -mcpu=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -pthread -MT utilities/montage.o -MD -MP -MF $depbase.Tpo -c -o utilities/montage.o utilities/montage.c; \ then mv -f $depbase.Tpo $depbase.Po; else rm -f $depbase.Tpo; exit 1; fi /bin/sh ./libtool --silent --tag=CC --mode=link i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -O3 -mcpu=i686 -funroll-loops -pipe -Wall -pthread -lfreetype -lz -L/usr/lib -o utilities/montage -lfreetype -lz -L/usr/lib utilities/montage.o magick/libMagick.la * No Make or Build file detect... make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. !!! ERROR: media-gfx/imagemagick-6.2.5.5 failed. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] can't emerge libMagick: ERROR: media-gfx/imagemagick-6.2.5.5 failed
That's it. Thanks! Michael On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, Fabrice Delliaux wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] a ??crit : I saw someone ask this question a few days ago but didn't see the answer. Nothing on the 'net that I could find. Anyone have any ideas? Look at this bug : http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128487 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to make Gentoo more Ubuntu like
On Sun, 30 Apr 2006, Ryan Tandy wrote: Richard Fish wrote: On 4/29/06, Ryan Tandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Make sure your GNOME packages (esp. gnome-volume-manager and related) are compiled with USE=hal, and make sure the hal and dbus services are started. With those in place, it should Just Work(tm). And also make sure she is a member of the 'plugdev' group. -Richard Yes, right. I always forget that one. Thanks. It occurs to me that this would make a very nice little howto. Perhaps the best one to write it would be the original asker (Ryan?) since he'll have the feedback from his wife, but if no one else wants to do it I'll do it. Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gentoo at linuxworld in san francisco this summer?
Will Gentoo have a presence at LinuxWorld in San Francisco, in August? I think last year they had a booth in the .org pavillion. As a San Fransiscan Gentoo user, I'd like to be involved. To whom do I speak? Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Spam, spam, spam
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Thomas Kirchner wrote: * On May 16 19:03, JimD (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote: Is there a good spam filter out there? One that is not a pain to setup and use? I'd recommend spamassassin. I've tried all of the popular spam filters, including SA, dspam, and bogofilter, including many of the plugins and smaller filters in portage, and only spamassassin is reliable. It uses more than just bayesian filters that can be tricked too easily, which gives the added benefit of a small training time. There's also a bigger spamassassin user base, which means more prewritten rules and help. Tom I found mailscanner + spamassassin easy to set up. There is a well written gentoo howto for this. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How can I get java compiler without x11?
I've damaged my gentoo system while cleaning up a little too aggressively, and I'm missing libdb so Apache won't run. emerge sys-libs/db failed due to missing the java compiler, javac. It seems that in order to get javac, I need to emerge the whole java IDE blackdown-jdk, which needs x11. Is there a way to get the java compiler without installing x11? Or am I misunderstanding something here? Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How can I get java compiler without x11?
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Remy Blank wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm missing libdb so Apache won't run. emerge sys-libs/db failed due to missing the java compiler, javac. Add the following line to /etc/portage/package.use sys-libs/db -java This will disable the java USE flag for sys-libs/db, and will avoid requiring java. Thanks Remy. That's exactly what I need. No need for x11 on a server only system! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo presence at LinuxWorld this summer in San Francisco?
Is there to be a Gentoo booth at LinuxWorld? I'd like to help. Whom do I contact? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] What is causing x11-terms/xterm to be dragged in?
Hello, I'm trying to remove any dependencies on x11 from my headless server. Thanks to someone's help last week, I learned how to configure libdb to not use java, which had dragged in the java IDE which dragged in x11. That worked wonderfully, and I removed x11 and thought I was done. As a sanity check, I checked to see what emerge world would do and was surprised: # emerge -Duv --pretend --tree world [ebuild N] x11-terms/xterm-207 -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar +truetype -unicode 0 kB [nomerge ] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6 [nomerge ] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3 [ebuild N]virtual/x11-6.8 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7 -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers +ipv6 -minimal -mmx +nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk -sse -static +truetype-fonts +type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-base/opengl-update-3.0.0 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 0 kB How can I find out what is requiring x11-terms/xterm-207? Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is causing x11-terms/xterm to be dragged in?
On Fri, 26 May 2006, Steven Susbauer wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm trying to remove any dependencies on x11 from my headless server. Thanks to someone's help last week, I learned how to configure libdb to not use java, which had dragged in the java IDE which dragged in x11. That worked wonderfully, and I removed x11 and thought I was done. As a sanity check, I checked to see what emerge world would do and was surprised: # emerge -Duv --pretend --tree world [ebuild N] x11-terms/xterm-207 -Xaw3d -doc -toolbar +truetype -unicode 0 kB [nomerge ] sys-apps/utempter-0.5.5.6 [nomerge ] app-arch/rpm2targz-9.0-r3 [ebuild N]virtual/x11-6.8 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r7 -3dfx -3dnow +bitmap-fonts -cjk -debug -dlloader -dmx -doc -font-server -insecure-drivers +ipv6 -minimal -mmx +nls -nocxx +opengl +pam -sdk -sse -static +truetype-fonts +type1-fonts (-uclibc) -xprint +xv 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-base/opengl-update-3.0.0 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-apps/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r3 0 kB How can I find out what is requiring x11-terms/xterm-207? Thanks, Michael What are your use flags from /etc/make.conf and /usr/portage/package.use? You have opengl as an enabled flag, for example, and that would pull in xorg if something reacts to it (as libsdl does on my system). -- I should have included that in my original email, of course: $ grep USE /etc/make.conf | grep -v ^# USE=berkdb innodb I have no /usr/portage/package.use $ grep USE /etc/make.profile/make.defaults USE=alsa apm arts avi bitmap-fonts cups eds emboss encode fortran foomaticdb gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jpeg kde libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pdflib png qt quicktime sdl spell truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts vorbis X xml2 xmms xv AHA! but the man page for emerge says not to edit /etc/make.profile/make.defaults. How do I get X out of there? If in fact that's the cause of my problem? Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] voodoopad for linux?
A friend just showed me voodoopad (http://flyingmeat.com/voodoopad/) and I was blown away. It's a bit like wikiwikiweb, but it's on your local computer, not through a server/browser setup. Surely such a thing must exist for Linux, but I haven't found it yet. Anyone here know? If not, perhaps it would be a fun project Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] voodoopad for linux?
Found what I was looking for, and it's a very cool program. Do any of you have experience with this? http://www.beatniksoftware.com/tomboy/ Hope others find this useful On Wed, 31 May 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend just showed me voodoopad (http://flyingmeat.com/voodoopad/) and I was blown away. It's a bit like wikiwikiweb, but it's on your local computer, not through a server/browser setup. Surely such a thing must exist for Linux, but I haven't found it yet. Anyone here know? If not, perhaps it would be a fun project Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] voodoopad for linux?
On Wed, 31 May 2006, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 31 May 2006 08:54:30 -0700 (PDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found what I was looking for, and it's a very cool program. Do any of you have experience with this? http://www.beatniksoftware.com/tomboy/ I've been using it for a while, since I saw it at a LUG meeting. It's handy for note taking and the like. Another such program worth looking at is x11-misc/basket - http://basket.kde.org/ I like this basket thing. It has the ability to use kolourpaint to add scribble notes to the basket - I don't think tomboy can do that. Or did I just miss it? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Server
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Tuesday 6 June 2006 17:38, JimD wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions/preferences to a secure FTP server for Gentoo? My 55+ year old father-in-law wants to start learning building websites. I am having him install Nvu and want to setup ftp to my web server and give him his own directory to play with. I have never had a need for ftp since I have always used ssh. However, I want to make it as easy as possible for him to learn web page design, so that is why I thought ftp would be the easiest and most supported by tools. He uses winXP and I think Nvu can publish to ftp. If he really gets into building websites, he wants to purchase something like dreamweaver. From my perspective, I don't want an ftp server that will allow someone to get in to my gentoo box by brute forcing a username and password. I guess I can install something like denyhosts if the ftp server uses tcp wrappers. Thanks for any guidance, What about sftp? You only need to have ssh running. What kind of a client do you need to talk to an sftp server? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Server
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Tuesday 6 June 2006 18:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about sftp? You only need to have ssh running. What kind of a client do you need to talk to an sftp server? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SFTP_clients plus, of course, the sftp binary that comes with the openssh package. Thanks. I guess the question really is: Can the ftp client that's built in to programs like dreamweaver, frontpage, nvu, etc. work with an sftp or vsftp server, or do you need a special client? If my users have to install a special client, they may as well use WinSCP, but ideally, I can find a secure server (although I agree with the comment someone made about secure ftp being an oxymoron) that works with the html authoring tool my users already have. We all may have our opinions of dreamweaver, frontpage, and nvu, but so do my users, and I support them best if I allow them to use the tool of their choice. Ideally, I'd like a solution that works for clients on both OS X and Windows, as I have users of both flavors. M -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Server
This discussion is really off-topic. Please label it as such. The original post was regarding ftp servers. On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, DONT let him use Frontpage. I used it once and have had to support a server with it for a class - - it creates junk, hides stuff (in the MS you don't need to know way). Once I inherited a site done in FP to maintain and I moved it to Dreamweaver - very nice. From: Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/06/06 Tue PM 12:53:35 EDT To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Server On Tuesday 6 June 2006 18:01, JimD wrote: I have ssh. However, How many of the typical winXP tools for website editing support sftp? I was just looking at Nvu and the text editing in it stinks real bad. I don't know what windows software he will always use. He may try FrontPage or Dreamweaver or some other tool. A lot of those tools allow publishing to a site with FTP, though I am not sure if they support sftp. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lightwheight Gentoo System
i use xubuntu on an old laptop, and it's quite snappy. although i'm sure you could get snappier results with gentoo On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, Karl Huysmans wrote: Hi All, A friend asked me to install some operating system on an old Dell laptop he got for free. The laptop has a pentium 2 400 MHz, 6 GB HD and 256 MB RAM, and will be used by his young children. I have tried to install Edubuntu on it, looks nice, has a lot of very usefull stuff for kids, but it really runs too slow on this machine. So I was thinking Gentoo, optimized for PII, I guess -Os would be a good option for this little machine. Any thoughts anyone? What about the desktop? I guess Gnome or KDE is not really the best choice. But what else could I use? Of course, it's for kids, so I have to be able to make it look nice :-) What would be a good window manager? File manager? Other applications that help to keep it lean an fast? Anyone with any experience building such a system under Gentoo? Thank you Karl -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Lightwheight Gentoo System
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, James wrote: [...] If there was a Gen_bunto CD for older p2 and p1 machines, all of the kids in my hood would be using gentoo hth, James ROTFL - thanks for the laugh James. Gen-bunto - what a concept. My two favorite distros right now are Gentoo and Ubuntu, and I wonder about the philosopical implications of liking what seem to be polar opposites. Human nature, perhaps. Regards, Michael My other computer runs (Gentoo,Ubuntu) Shiloh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get GNOME back?
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 11:08:40AM -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: I had to completely reinstall Gentoo the other day (partitioning problem). I got the base system up and emerged gnome. I've done this several times before, but this time when I run startx all I get is twm. DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm and XSESSION=Gnome in /etc/rc.conf . I'm out of ideas, but I want gnome back. Can anyone help me? Startx uses ~/.xinitrc for starting X. You need to change your local copy to start gnome rather than twm. I'm still using the root account. /root/.xinitrc says exec gnome-session, but still startx gives me twm... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to get GNOME back?
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 04:00:10PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 04:47:35 -0500 (CDT), Michael Sullivan wrote: I had to completely reinstall Gentoo the other day (partitioning problem). I got the base system up and emerged gnome. I've done this several times before, but this time when I run startx all I get is twm. DISPLAYMANAGER=gdm and XSESSION=Gnome in /etc/rc.conf . I'm out of ideas, but I want gnome back. Can anyone help me? Don't use startx, use /etc/init.d/xdm start. -- Neil Bothwick Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass. I did /etc/init.d/xdm start and still got twm. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LinuxWorld?
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Jonathan Nichols wrote: Is there going to be a Gentoo booth at LinuxWorld Expo this year? Even if it's just 1 guy sitting on a milk crate, that still counts as a booth. :P And speaking of that, is there interest in a gathering of some kind, say lunch or drinks? Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Having trouble installing grub on second disk
Hello, I wonder if some wise person here can give me some suggestion on how to solve this problem. I have Gentoo (2005.0) installed on my master primary device, and I am trying to create a minimal Linux system on a new disk, my slave primary device. So, I partition and make a 32M ext2 file system, make the appropriate directories and devices, install busybox and other odds and ends. Then I copy over the kernel from my Gentoo system (same hardware, so the same kernel). Finally I install grub on the slave primary device, and set up my grub.conf like so: default 0 timeout 10 title=minimal linux on slave primary device root (hd1,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 root (hd1,0) should be the first partition on my slave primary device /boot/vmlinuz is indeed my kernel (I didn't bother with a separate boot partition ) finally root=/dev/hdb1 tells grub that the root is on the first partition of my slave primary device I test by rebooting and entering my bios settings, and then i set the boot device to hd1 instead of hd0. Save and exit, and grub tells me Error 15: File not found. It doesn't tell me which file isn't found, but I've learned that this usually means the kernel. So I double and triple check the spelling and the location. It's right, unless I'm going blind. As an experiment, I added these lines to grub.conf on hda, so that I could use grub on hda but boot from my kernel and root on hdb: title=minimal linux on slave primary device root (hd1,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 this worked, which perhaps suggests that my grub setup on hdb is faulty. So I reinstalled grub on hdb, but it still fails with the same error. Lastly the grub install reported no errors. Any suggestions? Sincerely, Michael Shiloh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Having trouble installing grub on second disk
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Richard Fish wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I test by rebooting and entering my bios settings, and then i set the boot device to hd1 instead of hd0. Save and exit, and grub tells me Error 15: File not found. For grub, the (hd0) and (hd1) devices are the ordered in the same order that the BIOS puts them in, so if you are going to switch them around in the BIOS, you should set the entries in the grub.conf to (hd0,0) instead of (hd1,0). In otherwords, (hd0) is always the disk currently being booted from. You can test this by editing the lines when grub comes up, and change kernel to be: kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 -Richard AHA! That sure sounds like my problem. I'll test this tonight. So the mapping is NOT hard-coded: hd0 = primary master hd1 = primary slave hd2 = secondary master hd3 = secondary slave but rather is the boot order I select? Thank you so much for the rapid reply, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Having trouble installing grub on second disk
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 13:12:40 -0700 (PDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Gentoo (2005.0) installed on my master primary device, and I am trying to create a minimal Linux system on a new disk, my slave primary device. So, I partition and make a 32M ext2 file system, make the appropriate directories and devices, install busybox and other odds and ends. Then I copy over the kernel from my Gentoo system (same hardware, so the same kernel). Finally I install grub on the slave primary device, and set up my grub.conf like so: default 0 timeout 10 title=minimal linux on slave primary device root (hd1,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 root (hd1,0) should be the first partition on my slave primary device You don't need to install GRUB on the slave drive, just add this to your existing grub.conf. GRUB is able to boot from a different drive. Ah, but eventually the first disk will go away. It's just support while I develop the minimal install. So I do need grub on it. But thanks for responding anyway, I appreciate the help Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Having trouble installing grub on second disk
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Richard Fish wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I test by rebooting and entering my bios settings, and then i set the boot device to hd1 instead of hd0. Save and exit, and grub tells me Error 15: File not found. For grub, the (hd0) and (hd1) devices are the ordered in the same order that the BIOS puts them in, so if you are going to switch them around in the BIOS, you should set the entries in the grub.conf to (hd0,0) instead of (hd1,0). In otherwords, (hd0) is always the disk currently being booted from. You can test this by editing the lines when grub comes up, and change kernel to be: kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 -Richard I'm glad to report that Richard's suggestion solved my problem. Thanks very much! After a bit of experimentation, this worked: root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hdb1 init=/bin/sh That's interesting, because the first line refers to the drive (remember, it's my slave primary device, but in my BIOS I have it selected for booting) as hd0, but the second line refers to it as hdb. Yes, I tried hda, and it didn't work. I did a bit of research after our initial email and it seems that grub numbering starts with the BIOS boot device, and then goes up from there, but I couldn't find any clear explanation of what happens with drives that preceeded the boot device. If you have 4 drives and you boot from the second, does grub go back and get the first at the end, or never? A topic for future research. The information I found also suggests that this is somewhat BIOS dependent, so future readers of this thread take note: this may not apply to you. Trial and error may be the only foolproof solution. Thanks again everyone, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] new gentoo installed but can't boot: Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk And Press Enter
Hello, I've been using my computer for awhile and decided to upgrade to gentoo 2005.1. Since there is nothing important on this system I decide to install from scratch. I follow the quickinstall howto and reference the installation manual for 2005.1 and my own notes, as I've installed perhaps 8 or so gentoo systems. I'm using the Universal 2005.1 live CDROM. Everything proceeds well, including installing grub, setting up grub.conf and running grub-install, and when I'm finished I exit the chroot environment, umount my root and boot partitions, and reboot. It fails, with the dreaded message Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk And Press Enter. I boot the live CD again, double check my grub.conf file, run grub-install again, check with fdisk that my boot partition is bootable, and try again. Same result. I'm mystified. I've been using this computer for developing systems over the past few months and have rebooted it many, many times, with no difficulty. I figure it's failing very early if I'm not even getting into grub. Any ideas? Any suggestions for what to test, inspect, try? Thanks, Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new gentoo installed but can't boot: Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk And Press Enter
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, gentuxx wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've been using my computer for awhile and decided to upgrade to gentoo 2005.1. Since there is nothing important on this system I decide to install from scratch. I follow the quickinstall howto and reference the installation manual for 2005.1 and my own notes, as I've installed perhaps 8 or so gentoo systems. I'm using the Universal 2005.1 live CDROM. Everything proceeds well, including installing grub, setting up grub.conf and running grub-install, and when I'm finished I exit the chroot environment, umount my root and boot partitions, and reboot. It fails, with the dreaded message Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk And Press Enter. I boot the live CD again, double check my grub.conf file, run grub-install again, check with fdisk that my boot partition is bootable, and try again. Same result. I'm mystified. I've been using this computer for developing systems over the past few months and have rebooted it many, many times, with no difficulty. I figure it's failing very early if I'm not even getting into grub. Any ideas? Any suggestions for what to test, inspect, try? Thanks, Michael - From my experience, this is typical of a bad disk. I have a system that gives the exact same error. Usually, for me, a reboot solves it, and it loads the OS. But I happen to know that my disk is on it's last legs. ;-) If you have another disk lying around, or could get another one, I would try the install, using the same method you used, and see if you have the same problem. - -- gentux Thanks for the idea. As I've said, I've been using this computer pretty solidly with no indication, but that's not to say it can't happen. Your suggestion made me look at the BIOS boot stage and I notice that my hard drive is not reported during the BIOS boot. I have no problems running fdisk or mounting, but when booting the BIOS does not report it. What could cause this? Perhaps as you suggest? Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] gentoo 2005.1 and FTDI USB/serial adapter: device not created
Hello, Gentoo 2005.1, kernel 2.6.12 gentoo r10. I have a USB device that uses the FTDI driver (in the kernel) to make the device appear as a serial port. When I plug in the device I get the following in my syslog: Sep 18 03:31:23 (none) usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 Sep 18 03:31:23 (none) ftdi_sio 2-1:1.0: FTDI FT232BM Compatible converter detected Sep 18 03:31:23 (none) usb 2-1: FTDI FT232BM Compatible converter now attached to ttyUSB0 but alas, there is no /dev/ttyUSB0. Any suggestions of where I might look for what went wrong? Below are the config parameters that relate to USB. Thanks in advance, Michael # grep -i usb .config # USB devices # CONFIG_SND_USB_AUDIO is not set # CONFIG_SND_USB_USX2Y is not set # USB support CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_HCD=y CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y CONFIG_USB=y # CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set # Miscellaneous USB options CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y # CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is not set # CONFIG_USB_DYNAMIC_MINORS is not set # CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND is not set # CONFIG_USB_OTG is not set # USB Host Controller Drivers CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO is not set # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_ROOT_HUB_TT is not set CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=y # CONFIG_USB_OHCI_BIG_ENDIAN is not set CONFIG_USB_OHCI_LITTLE_ENDIAN=y CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=y # CONFIG_USB_SL811_HCD is not set # USB Device Class drivers # CONFIG_USB_AUDIO is not set # CONFIG_USB_BLUETOOTH_TTY is not set # CONFIG_USB_MIDI is not set # CONFIG_USB_ACM is not set CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=y # NOTE: USB_STORAGE enables SCSI, and 'SCSI disk support' may also be # needed; see USB_STORAGE Help for more information CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=y # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DEBUG is not set # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DATAFAB is not set # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_FREECOM is not set # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_ISD200 is not set # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_DPCM is not set # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_USBAT is not set # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR09 is not set # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_SDDR55 is not set # CONFIG_USB_STORAGE_JUMPSHOT is not set # USB Input Devices CONFIG_USB_HID=y CONFIG_USB_HIDINPUT=y # CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV is not set # CONFIG_USB_AIPTEK is not set # CONFIG_USB_WACOM is not set # CONFIG_USB_KBTAB is not set # CONFIG_USB_POWERMATE is not set # CONFIG_USB_MTOUCH is not set CONFIG_USB_EGALAX=m # CONFIG_USB_XPAD is not set # CONFIG_USB_ATI_REMOTE is not set # USB Imaging devices # CONFIG_USB_MDC800 is not set # CONFIG_USB_MICROTEK is not set # USB Multimedia devices # CONFIG_USB_DABUSB is not set # Video4Linux support is needed for USB Multimedia device support # USB Network Adapters # CONFIG_USB_CATC is not set # CONFIG_USB_KAWETH is not set # CONFIG_USB_PEGASUS is not set # CONFIG_USB_RTL8150 is not set # CONFIG_USB_USBNET is not set # CONFIG_USB_ZD1201 is not set CONFIG_USB_MON=y # USB port drivers # CONFIG_USB_USS720 is not set # USB Serial Converter support CONFIG_USB_SERIAL=y # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CONSOLE is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_GENERIC is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_AIRPRIME is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_BELKIN is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_WHITEHEAT is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_DIGI_ACCELEPORT is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CP2101 is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CYPRESS_M8 is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_EMPEG is not set CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_FTDI_SIO=y # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_VISOR is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_IPAQ is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_IR is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_EDGEPORT is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_EDGEPORT_TI is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_GARMIN is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_IPW is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KEYSPAN_PDA is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KEYSPAN is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KLSI is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_KOBIL_SCT is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_MCT_U232 is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_PL2303 is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_HP4X is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_SAFE is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_TI is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_CYBERJACK is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_XIRCOM is not set # CONFIG_USB_SERIAL_OMNINET is not set # USB Miscellaneous drivers # CONFIG_USB_EMI62 is not set # CONFIG_USB_EMI26 is not set # CONFIG_USB_AUERSWALD is not set # CONFIG_USB_RIO500 is not set # CONFIG_USB_LEGOTOWER is not set # CONFIG_USB_LCD is not set # CONFIG_USB_LED is not set CONFIG_USB_CYTHERM=m # CONFIG_USB_PHIDGETKIT is not set CONFIG_USB_PHIDGETSERVO=m # CONFIG_USB_IDMOUSE is not set # CONFIG_USB_SISUSBVGA is not set # CONFIG_USB_TEST is not set # USB ATM/DSL drivers # USB Gadget Support # CONFIG_USB_GADGET is not set -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Which process is using port 5060 ?
I think fuser is what you want: EXAMPLES if fuser -s /dev/ttyS1; then :; else something; fi invokes something if no other process is using /dev/ttyS1. fuser telnet/tcp shows all processes at the (local) TELNET port. or fuser 80/tcp On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Dave S wrote: Hi all, Apparently my SIP port 5060 is in use. Is there a Linux command to tell me what process is using this port. I have a vague memory of seeing such a command but just cannot remember or find it. Many thanks in advance Dave -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] graphical ssh-enabled file system browser?
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006, Evan Klitzke wrote: On 6/26/06, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are using kde: konqueror sftp://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path] Incidentally you can do the same thing in nautilus :-) Ctrl-L will bring up a location dialog, and then you can use sftp://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/path] to open up the folder remotely. The disadvantage of doing this is that it doesn't save you a lot of time, and if you use the 'Connect to Server' option then the remote folder will show up under 'Places' in the future. On another note, you can use sshfs and use any file browser you can think of to access the files. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list As a slight aside, does anyone know of any compatibility issues with using sshfs to mount a partition from an OS X machine? I got some weird results but didn't have time to research thoroughly. Could easily have been user error on my part. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What is this: http://en.fon.com/
Well it's a little spammy in that it doesn't really address the original post but it does seem like an interesting project. I'd be interesd in what others think of this. Michael On Sat, 15 Jul 2006, Meino Christian Cramer wrote: Hi, there are several mails replied only with a link to http://en.fon.com/ ??? Accident? Advertising? More or less bad joke? SPAM??? mcc -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to see network activity?
this has been a fascinating conversation. thanks boris for starting it. i've tested almost everything that has been mentioned. i often have to monitor my computers over slow text-only ssh sessions, so my focus may be a bit different from others. tcpdump (and ethereal/wireshark) of course can not be beat for looking inside packets. to see what connections are open and how much data they are transferring, in a telnet/ssh situation i like bmon and iftop. i especially appreciate the graphical feature of bmon. in real graphical environments, i like etherape. thanks to everyone who has contributed so much wisdom On Thu, 10 Aug 2006, Norman Rie? wrote: Boris Sobolev schrieb: Hi folks, I would like to see the network activoity going in an out of my box. Any command to use for that? Thanks. Boris iftop is nice to watch, what connetions are currently open an how many traffic they produce. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
