Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta update - version no. not changing
Does any version no. change after this update ? I still get - version : 1.0.0.7/7 3181 secure Peter - Original Message - From: Jason Ruymen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:28 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta update This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Updates to the Community Beta for the Source Engine and Source Dedicated Server are now available. Please run hldsupdatetool with the command -beta community to receive them. The specific changes include: - Fixed custom level sound lists under sv_pure - Remove friends details from player list - Fixed occasional scrunched-up columns in the serverbrowser - Fixed a Linux-only crash when loading certain custom maps - Minor memory leak fix - Fixed the askconnect panel showing under the spectator GUI Jason -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update Available
I updated to the 0613 beta. I played with the while list file. I had added these 2 lines: Resource\... allow_from_disk+check_crc resource\... allow_from_disk+check_crc When I switched to the second map the server crashed just after a warning about duplicate lines. I deleted the first Resource line and the error did not occur. However, this makes me think that the white list file is not used for the first map! I start the server with this line: ./srcds_run +maxplayers 21 +map breakfloor +log on -secure -tickrate 33 +port 27015 Guy } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen } Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:52 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update Available } } A new Source Engine beta is available. Please run hldsupdatetool with } the command -beta src0613 to receive it. The specific changes } include: } } - Fixed a client crash } - Fixed sv_allow_wait_commands restricting the server using wait } - Fixed a crash in soundlist command } - Reallowed fps_max value of 0 (= unrestricted fps) } - Fixed exploit that showed spectator radar when not a spectator } - Fixed a crash playing back demo files recorded with the } previously-released engine } - Client forwards server commands it doesn't understand back to the } server } - Allow servers to execute chooseteam in Counter-Strike: Source } - Allow servers to execute retry } - sv_pure 1 now allows custom spray decals by default } - Fixed Has Users Playing checkbox not using the new change where we } only display human players in the players tab, so you'd see servers with } 0 players (they actually had only bots) listed } } Jason } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] - Reallowed ent_fire Originally this was disabled due to exploitability issues, have these issues been fixed in this reallowing the use of the concommand? On 6/12/07, Cc2iscooL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Make it un-write-able? On 6/11/07, Evaldas Žilinskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder, is there a way hldsupdatetool not to overwrite gameinfo.txt? :) - Original Message - From: Jason Ruymen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:45 AM Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a few days. The specific changes include: - Fixed sv_pure 1 not protecting sounds by default - Fixed sv_pure 2 not allowing custom maps - Made sv_pure_kick_clients default to 1 - Fixed a Linux server crash - Fixed a client crash - Reallowed ent_fire Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 2007.06.10 13:39 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
At 12:52 AM 6/12/2007, Evaldas ilinskas wrote: I wonder, is there a way hldsupdatetool not to overwrite gameinfo.txt? :) man chattr ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Yes. - Alfred Wim Barelds wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] - Reallowed ent_fire Originally this was disabled due to exploitability issues, have these issues been fixed in this reallowing the use of the concommand? On 6/12/07, Cc2iscooL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Make it un-write-able? On 6/11/07, Evaldas Žilinskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder, is there a way hldsupdatetool not to overwrite gameinfo.txt? :) - Original Message - From: Jason Ruymen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:45 AM Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a few days. The specific changes include: - Fixed sv_pure 1 not protecting sounds by default - Fixed sv_pure 2 not allowing custom maps - Made sv_pure_kick_clients default to 1 - Fixed a Linux server crash - Fixed a client crash - Reallowed ent_fire Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 2007.06.10 13:39 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
I wonder, is there a way hldsupdatetool not to overwrite gameinfo.txt? :) - Original Message - From: Jason Ruymen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:45 AM Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a few days. The specific changes include: - Fixed sv_pure 1 not protecting sounds by default - Fixed sv_pure 2 not allowing custom maps - Made sv_pure_kick_clients default to 1 - Fixed a Linux server crash - Fixed a client crash - Reallowed ent_fire Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 2007.06.10 13:39 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Make it un-write-able? On 6/11/07, Evaldas Žilinskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder, is there a way hldsupdatetool not to overwrite gameinfo.txt? :) - Original Message - From: Jason Ruymen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 5:45 AM Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a few days. The specific changes include: - Fixed sv_pure 1 not protecting sounds by default - Fixed sv_pure 2 not allowing custom maps - Made sv_pure_kick_clients default to 1 - Fixed a Linux server crash - Fixed a client crash - Reallowed ent_fire Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/843 - Release Date: 2007.06.10 13:39 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Try:mani_mute_con_command_spam 1 It won't hide 9t when YOU trigger something, but when the server does. (IE: rcon ma_slap user 99) On 6/10/07, Ryan Veltidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those are just anonymous, they only remove the admin name not the entire line from appearing. On 6/9/07, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IN the mani_server.cfg there is a section called (the Newest Version 1.2 ) Just Change all the 0 zeros to ones // * // Module : Admin action messages // // Desc : This section defines which admin actions will be anonymous to // non-admins on your server. If the option is set to 1 then the action // will not be shown to non-admins, if set to 0 then all players will // see which admin kicked/slayed/banned/etc a player. // * - Original Message - From: Ryan Veltidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update True, and that's what Mani says is the reason. But we do a special Admin Night / Map Night on Friday nights where we give tons of things, and change around health, slap to 1 health, etc, etc. It's the only night our server is 100% full at around 40-50 players, and everybody enjoys it. So, most people don't consider it abuse. It just annoys people that their chat is being obstructed by all those commands. And sometimes it takes too long to @rcon ma_give or rcon through console, etc. On 6/9/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume because a lot of admins would abuse that. By telling the players what evil the admins are doing they can decide it they want to stay on your server. } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:11 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would always } tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood } why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was } an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly switch } right away. } ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Then you will be better off with sourcemod. Since you can write your own plugin that does all that automatically at spawn. You have full freedom to do anything you want. I have been waiting for SM since the release of CS:S. And cant wait to convert all my amx plugins I use for CS to CS:S. And since SQL now is available I can start to do so. To the rest. There are options to mani. I use BAT now for basic admin stuff like kick, ban... ont top of that I have a high ping kicker plugin, one for restrictions, one against team attack and a couple of more... mani got too bloated on the way, with a lot of stuff like setting people on fire and crap. I had to disable 90% of the functionality of mani to have a plugin that did just what I wanted it to do. Admins should be able to kick, ban, be able to switch team on a player and give warnings. Anything else is just a bonus. /Bjorn On Sat, 9 Jun 2007, Ryan Veltidi wrote: True, and that's what Mani says is the reason. But we do a special Admin Night / Map Night on Friday nights where we give tons of things, and change around health, slap to 1 health, etc, etc. It's the only night our server is 100% full at around 40-50 players, and everybody enjoys it. So, most people don't consider it abuse. It just annoys people that their chat is being obstructed by all those commands. And sometimes it takes too long to @rcon ma_give or rcon through console, etc. On 6/9/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume because a lot of admins would abuse that. By telling the players what evil the admins are doing they can decide it they want to stay on your server. } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:11 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would always } tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood } why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was } an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly switch } right away. } } On 6/9/07, LDuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } SourceMod has moved to beta and they are actively adding the admin } functionality now. Plugins are already starting to appear written by } SourceMod users for everything from weapon restrictions to team attack } control to spawning chef's hats on hostages. } } From the SourceMod site: } In addition to the recent feature of SQL support, SourceMod has gained } its } first default administrative plugin. Over the next few weeks more of } these } will appear, and SourceMod will be more and more usable for normal } administrators. Our goal is to reproduce most of the original AMX Mod X } commands. } } Judging by the popularity of amxmod and amxmodx on HL1 based servers, } SourceMod should rapidly take over for Mani as well as allow } customization. } All of those people who complained that Mani installed everything } instead of } just the options they used will be able to setup SourceMod with just } those } options. } } Grant } (L. Duke) } } } } On 6/9/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Currently there are no good replacements for mani-admin and if it } indeed } goes bonkers, 18189 public servers need to find a replacement for it. } (addon-stats here http://www.sourcemod.net/stats.php) and Sourcemod } really isnt an option because it doesnt have any admin-functions. Or } if } it does, that stuff is well hidden somewhere without any documentation } or instructions how the stuff really works so before any of you start } saying how great sourcemod really is, hold back untill you see some } real } content running on/in it so people can actually use it. for example, } more documentation and detailed information about cvars etc would be } nice to see. Also this thread is worth a look... } http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566697 } } There was some line on beta updates about plugin backwards } compatibility } so maybe Valve has actually this time prevented mani-admin from } breaking } down and they dont change core functions so it wont break. There could } be many disappointed server owners out there of mani really goes } bonkers } after the update is out. Even i have considered running my servers if } i } have to give up from mani-admin. Really there isnt many good options } available. There are infact 3. Matties Eventscripts (with tons of } different scripts), Mani-admin's old rival Beetlesmod (less fuctions } than mani has) and Sourcemod. Dont really know much about Sourcemod } but } i guess someone can explain
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
But i like bonuses so much. Mani had all the stuff server admins could want in 1 simple pack. You didnt need to find _everything_ separately, like ingame stats, teamkiller punishments, map voting system, reserve slots, skin setting for players, soundplaying, weapon restrictions and all kinds of handy settings (see mani_server.cfg). True, most of it is a bonus but very usefull. You make SourceMod sound like the thing where you have freedom to do anything BUT with exception that a) you gotta know scripting and coding and b) its like matties eventscripts, pieces from there and there to pick for your needs. Tons of separate scripts/functions where mani had them all in the same pack. Bloated? Maybe. Usefull? Definitely and thats the reason why mani-admin got so popular. There was no alternative at that time and there still isnt. -ics kama kirjoitti: Then you will be better off with sourcemod. Since you can write your own plugin that does all that automatically at spawn. You have full freedom to do anything you want. I have been waiting for SM since the release of CS:S. And cant wait to convert all my amx plugins I use for CS to CS:S. And since SQL now is available I can start to do so. To the rest. There are options to mani. I use BAT now for basic admin stuff like kick, ban... ont top of that I have a high ping kicker plugin, one for restrictions, one against team attack and a couple of more... mani got too bloated on the way, with a lot of stuff like setting people on fire and crap. I had to disable 90% of the functionality of mani to have a plugin that did just what I wanted it to do. Admins should be able to kick, ban, be able to switch team on a player and give warnings. Anything else is just a bonus. /Bjorn On Sat, 9 Jun 2007, Ryan Veltidi wrote: True, and that's what Mani says is the reason. But we do a special Admin Night / Map Night on Friday nights where we give tons of things, and change around health, slap to 1 health, etc, etc. It's the only night our server is 100% full at around 40-50 players, and everybody enjoys it. So, most people don't consider it abuse. It just annoys people that their chat is being obstructed by all those commands. And sometimes it takes too long to @rcon ma_give or rcon through console, etc. On 6/9/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume because a lot of admins would abuse that. By telling the players what evil the admins are doing they can decide it they want to stay on your server. } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:11 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would always } tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood } why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was } an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly switch } right away. } } On 6/9/07, LDuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } SourceMod has moved to beta and they are actively adding the admin } functionality now. Plugins are already starting to appear written by } SourceMod users for everything from weapon restrictions to team attack } control to spawning chef's hats on hostages. } } From the SourceMod site: } In addition to the recent feature of SQL support, SourceMod has gained } its } first default administrative plugin. Over the next few weeks more of } these } will appear, and SourceMod will be more and more usable for normal } administrators. Our goal is to reproduce most of the original AMX Mod X } commands. } } Judging by the popularity of amxmod and amxmodx on HL1 based servers, } SourceMod should rapidly take over for Mani as well as allow } customization. } All of those people who complained that Mani installed everything } instead of } just the options they used will be able to setup SourceMod with just } those } options. } } Grant } (L. Duke) } } } } On 6/9/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Currently there are no good replacements for mani-admin and if it } indeed } goes bonkers, 18189 public servers need to find a replacement for it. } (addon-stats here http://www.sourcemod.net/stats.php) and Sourcemod } really isnt an option because it doesnt have any admin-functions. Or } if } it does, that stuff is well hidden somewhere without any documentation } or instructions how the stuff really works so before any of you start } saying how great sourcemod really is, hold back untill you see some } real } content running on/in it so people can actually use it. for example, } more documentation and detailed information about cvars etc would be } nice to see. Also this thread is worth a look... } http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566697 } } There was some
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Hello, RatMod is doing all you need in one Plugin, Kick, Ban, Slap, Burn, Weapon Restriction, Stats, Ranking, Beaming, Deathmatch, Gunmod, Zombie Infection and more... Full Admin Handling, Quake Sounds, Skins, Sounds The feature List is unlimited :) All in one Plugin! Without other Plugins! The plugin does all mani has done! There is nothing what is missed!!! The Plugin is multi lingual, so EVERY Player can select her own language and not only the server admin like mani... With friendly Reguards from Germany Ratman2000 - Original Message - From: kama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update Then you will be better off with sourcemod. Since you can write your own plugin that does all that automatically at spawn. You have full freedom to do anything you want. I have been waiting for SM since the release of CS:S. And cant wait to convert all my amx plugins I use for CS to CS:S. And since SQL now is available I can start to do so. To the rest. There are options to mani. I use BAT now for basic admin stuff like kick, ban... ont top of that I have a high ping kicker plugin, one for restrictions, one against team attack and a couple of more... mani got too bloated on the way, with a lot of stuff like setting people on fire and crap. I had to disable 90% of the functionality of mani to have a plugin that did just what I wanted it to do. Admins should be able to kick, ban, be able to switch team on a player and give warnings. Anything else is just a bonus. /Bjorn On Sat, 9 Jun 2007, Ryan Veltidi wrote: True, and that's what Mani says is the reason. But we do a special Admin Night / Map Night on Friday nights where we give tons of things, and change around health, slap to 1 health, etc, etc. It's the only night our server is 100% full at around 40-50 players, and everybody enjoys it. So, most people don't consider it abuse. It just annoys people that their chat is being obstructed by all those commands. And sometimes it takes too long to @rcon ma_give or rcon through console, etc. On 6/9/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume because a lot of admins would abuse that. By telling the players what evil the admins are doing they can decide it they want to stay on your server. } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:11 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would always } tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood } why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was } an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly switch } right away. } } On 6/9/07, LDuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } SourceMod has moved to beta and they are actively adding the admin } functionality now. Plugins are already starting to appear written by } SourceMod users for everything from weapon restrictions to team attack } control to spawning chef's hats on hostages. } } From the SourceMod site: } In addition to the recent feature of SQL support, SourceMod has gained } its } first default administrative plugin. Over the next few weeks more of } these } will appear, and SourceMod will be more and more usable for normal } administrators. Our goal is to reproduce most of the original AMX Mod X } commands. } } Judging by the popularity of amxmod and amxmodx on HL1 based servers, } SourceMod should rapidly take over for Mani as well as allow } customization. } All of those people who complained that Mani installed everything } instead of } just the options they used will be able to setup SourceMod with just } those } options. } } Grant } (L. Duke) } } } } On 6/9/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Currently there are no good replacements for mani-admin and if it } indeed } goes bonkers, 18189 public servers need to find a replacement for it. } (addon-stats here http://www.sourcemod.net/stats.php) and Sourcemod } really isnt an option because it doesnt have any admin-functions. Or } if } it does, that stuff is well hidden somewhere without any documentation } or instructions how the stuff really works so before any of you start } saying how great sourcemod really is, hold back untill you see some } real } content running on/in it so people can actually use it. for example, } more documentation and detailed information about cvars etc would be } nice to see. Also this thread is worth a look... } http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566697 } } There was some
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Too bad its not going to have ma_cexec, or atleast not for long. On 6/10/07, Ratman2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, RatMod is doing all you need in one Plugin, Kick, Ban, Slap, Burn, Weapon Restriction, Stats, Ranking, Beaming, Deathmatch, Gunmod, Zombie Infection and more... Full Admin Handling, Quake Sounds, Skins, Sounds The feature List is unlimited :) All in one Plugin! Without other Plugins! The plugin does all mani has done! There is nothing what is missed!!! The Plugin is multi lingual, so EVERY Player can select her own language and not only the server admin like mani... With friendly Reguards from Germany Ratman2000 - Original Message - From: kama [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update Then you will be better off with sourcemod. Since you can write your own plugin that does all that automatically at spawn. You have full freedom to do anything you want. I have been waiting for SM since the release of CS:S. And cant wait to convert all my amx plugins I use for CS to CS:S. And since SQL now is available I can start to do so. To the rest. There are options to mani. I use BAT now for basic admin stuff like kick, ban... ont top of that I have a high ping kicker plugin, one for restrictions, one against team attack and a couple of more... mani got too bloated on the way, with a lot of stuff like setting people on fire and crap. I had to disable 90% of the functionality of mani to have a plugin that did just what I wanted it to do. Admins should be able to kick, ban, be able to switch team on a player and give warnings. Anything else is just a bonus. /Bjorn On Sat, 9 Jun 2007, Ryan Veltidi wrote: True, and that's what Mani says is the reason. But we do a special Admin Night / Map Night on Friday nights where we give tons of things, and change around health, slap to 1 health, etc, etc. It's the only night our server is 100% full at around 40-50 players, and everybody enjoys it. So, most people don't consider it abuse. It just annoys people that their chat is being obstructed by all those commands. And sometimes it takes too long to @rcon ma_give or rcon through console, etc. On 6/9/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume because a lot of admins would abuse that. By telling the players what evil the admins are doing they can decide it they want to stay on your server. } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:11 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would always } tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood } why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was } an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly switch } right away. } } On 6/9/07, LDuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } SourceMod has moved to beta and they are actively adding the admin } functionality now. Plugins are already starting to appear written by } SourceMod users for everything from weapon restrictions to team attack } control to spawning chef's hats on hostages. } } From the SourceMod site: } In addition to the recent feature of SQL support, SourceMod has gained } its } first default administrative plugin. Over the next few weeks more of } these } will appear, and SourceMod will be more and more usable for normal } administrators. Our goal is to reproduce most of the original AMX Mod X } commands. } } Judging by the popularity of amxmod and amxmodx on HL1 based servers, } SourceMod should rapidly take over for Mani as well as allow } customization. } All of those people who complained that Mani installed everything } instead of } just the options they used will be able to setup SourceMod with just } those } options. } } Grant } (L. Duke) } } } } On 6/9/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Currently there are no good replacements for mani-admin and if it } indeed } goes bonkers, 18189 public servers need to find a replacement for it. } (addon-stats here http://www.sourcemod.net/stats.php) and Sourcemod } really isnt an option because it doesnt have any admin-functions. Or } if } it does, that stuff is well hidden somewhere without any documentation } or instructions how the stuff really works so before any of you start } saying how great sourcemod really is, hold back untill you see some } real
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
According to that statement I guess you have never runned a CS server with AMX or AMXX... SourceMod will have most of your needs ready in the default package, other mani features for download as plugins. And you will find tons of other stuff that you never will see in mani. The point is that you are not dependent on one person writing stuff into their mod. You are also not dependent on that person whenever he decides to go to a year long expedition to save the whales. SourceMod and AMXX is more community based than hardcoded pluings. Anyone can write anything to it. And if one person does not want to learn to write plugins, just pop a request in their forum and someone might write it just for fun. I have full control when using AMX (I have not yet converted to AMXX). I almost only use it as an plugin engine. I have my own sql based admin system, my own stats system. I make my servers unique. I have gone so far that I have even redefined the adminflags, so I can set them exactly the way I want them to. 90% of my plugins are unique to my servers. SourceMod seems to have gotten a bit more advanced when it goes to writing plugins than AMXX. I have not dived into it at fully yet, but it feels a little more OO, a little more of C++ vs C. But thats just for glancing over it extremely briefly a while ago. The reason mani has been so popular is not about it having all of those features, it is that he was first to release a decent admin tool and all the other serveradmins just follows. Most probably didnt even know that there where others around when they sat up their CSS server. I prefer BAT over mani any day now. And the reason is not just because I fixed a memory leak around his threading code (when running under linux). ;p /Bjorn On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, ics wrote: But i like bonuses so much. Mani had all the stuff server admins could want in 1 simple pack. You didnt need to find _everything_ separately, like ingame stats, teamkiller punishments, map voting system, reserve slots, skin setting for players, soundplaying, weapon restrictions and all kinds of handy settings (see mani_server.cfg). True, most of it is a bonus but very usefull. You make SourceMod sound like the thing where you have freedom to do anything BUT with exception that a) you gotta know scripting and coding and b) its like matties eventscripts, pieces from there and there to pick for your needs. Tons of separate scripts/functions where mani had them all in the same pack. Bloated? Maybe. Usefull? Definitely and thats the reason why mani-admin got so popular. There was no alternative at that time and there still isnt. -ics kama kirjoitti: Then you will be better off with sourcemod. Since you can write your own plugin that does all that automatically at spawn. You have full freedom to do anything you want. I have been waiting for SM since the release of CS:S. And cant wait to convert all my amx plugins I use for CS to CS:S. And since SQL now is available I can start to do so. To the rest. There are options to mani. I use BAT now for basic admin stuff like kick, ban... ont top of that I have a high ping kicker plugin, one for restrictions, one against team attack and a couple of more... mani got too bloated on the way, with a lot of stuff like setting people on fire and crap. I had to disable 90% of the functionality of mani to have a plugin that did just what I wanted it to do. Admins should be able to kick, ban, be able to switch team on a player and give warnings. Anything else is just a bonus. /Bjorn On Sat, 9 Jun 2007, Ryan Veltidi wrote: True, and that's what Mani says is the reason. But we do a special Admin Night / Map Night on Friday nights where we give tons of things, and change around health, slap to 1 health, etc, etc. It's the only night our server is 100% full at around 40-50 players, and everybody enjoys it. So, most people don't consider it abuse. It just annoys people that their chat is being obstructed by all those commands. And sometimes it takes too long to @rcon ma_give or rcon through console, etc. On 6/9/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume because a lot of admins would abuse that. By telling the players what evil the admins are doing they can decide it they want to stay on your server. } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:11 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would always } tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood } why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was } an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly switch } right away. } } On 6/9/07, LDuke [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
On 6/9/07, Jani Tiira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Hi!
What build is it showing your beta-client? Mine is 3130 an it still lets me
in.
version in client console shows this:
Protocol version 7
Exe version 1.0.0.34 (cstrike)
Exe build: 11:51:38 Jun 3 2007 (3130)
Do you have the pure_server_whitelist.txt somewhere in your
server-directory?
Yes.
And if you do, where is it supposed to be? in cstrike/ ?
Definitely in Game path, which is ./cstrike for me.
Like I said, I seem to have tried everything but I just can't get it to
work. And what build is your server showing up? Mine says version :
1.0.0.34/7 3128 secure (where as normal servers are version :
1.0.0.34/73048 secure). I know it's just me not getting it to work.
version on my dev server shows this:
Protocol version 7
Exe version 1.0.0.34 (cstrike)
Exe build: 15:34:54 Jun 1 2007 (3128)
But this will bug
me forever if I can't get it to work. :P
No doubt -- it bugged me forever too! ;)
Here is a sample pure_server_whitelist.txt. I had some trouble
finding an example elsewhere. Hope this helps:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/srcds1/cstrike# cat pure_server_whitelist.txt
whitelist
{
// 3 modifiers are allowed on file specifications:
//
// from_steam - only check the Steam cache
//for the file (ignore anything on disk)
// allow_from_disk - allow the file to come from disk
// check_crc - used with allow_from_disk - server does
//CRC checks on the client's file to make
//sure it matches
//
// The default modifier on all files is allow_from_disk. Thus, all
// files can come from disk and don't need CRC checks unless
// allow_from_disk can be set at the same time as check_crc. Use
// the + character in between them to signify this:
//
// allow_from_disk+check_crc.
//
// Three types of file specifications:
//
// 1. directory\*.* - refers to all files under the directory
// 2. directory\... - refers to all files under the directory
// and all directories under that (recursively)
// 3. directory\filename - refers to a single file
//
// By default, when in pure server mode, most content file types
// are only allowed to come from Steam.
//
materials\... from_steam
models\... from_steam
sounds\... from_steam
scripts\...from_steam
//materials\... allow_from_disk+check_crc
//models\... allow_from_disk+check_crc
//sounds\... allow_from_disk+check_crc
//scripts\...allow_from_disk+check_crc
//
// Allow custom player models. Don't do CRC checks on them
// because the clients may all have different custom models and
// the server won't have them all.
//
// Example:
//
// models\player\... allow_from_disk
// materials\models\player\... allow_from_disk
//
//
//
// (Uncomment and edit these for mods).
// Allow mod resources to come from disk.
//
// materials\mymod\... allow_from_disk+check_crc
// models\mymod\...allow_from_disk+check_crc
// sounds\mymod\...allow_from_disk+check_crc
}
If you're still having trouble and the rest of the list is getting
bored with out conversation then feel free to contact me directly.
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Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Hello, as Plugin you can use RatMod! Its the same as Mani but working with all updates fine! You can register a Beta Tester Account on: www.ratmod.com or www.ratmod.de to try it out! With friendly Reguards Ratman2000 - Original Message - From: Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update On 6/8/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the beta client is also needed. But going from memory! I never tried it. I spent a bit of time digging around the list archives earlier today to interpret exactly what beta client entails. At first I thought it was extra parameters to starting hl2/css but you actually need to throw -beta srcds0407 at steam.exe itself, and not just your hl2/css startup parameters. For example, here is how I had to start up steam to get the beta client going: C:\Steam\Steam.exe -beta srcds0407 It worked perfectly for me after that and I am thoroughly stoked about preventing texture/model hackers on my server as soon as this update goes live! Of course, we're still scrambling around figuring out what to do about the imminent demise of Mani but that's another topic for another thread... Hope this helps some others like myself who felt like noobs not knowing how to run your Steam client in beta! ;) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It's the whitelist that I'm missing. Where on earth did you get that sample from? The update sure as heck didn't download one for me. It'll probably work right away as soon as I try that out. -- Jani -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Hi Alfred, Just wanted to let you know that the last beta updates didn't fixed the older library bug. Seems like the only workaround is to reinstall machines with newest libraries. A little bit disappointing the way things work. Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2007 20:59 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update The one before that one actually, the one from 5/21 had a fix for that. - Alfred Michael Shavit wrote: Hi Alfred, sorry not very aware of all english syntaxes, with last you mean the one below? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2007 18:43 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update The last update fixed that. Michael Shavit wrote: Is this update fixing the fps bug from the 13.3.2007 update, on servers with glibc libraries prior 2.3.5? Cheers, Michael An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a few days. The specific changes include: - Fixed a server performance problem with queued packets - Fixed a Counter-Strike: Source flashbang exploit in dxlevel 80 - Game DLLs export ServerGameClients003 for backwards compatibility for plugins - Only allows mat_picmip to be set to 0, 1, or 2 when in multiplayer and sv_cheats=0 - Cheat-protected snd_foliage_db_loss. Could be used to turn off ambient sounds in Counter-Strike: Source - Fixed a crash when mashing the ~ key on disconnect - Fixed a crash with certain materials being blocked from reloading due to sv_pure 0 - Fixed bug with audio files of different formats overriding the files in Steam where it would use the original audio file's sample rate/format information after pure server rules forced it to load a different file Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Hi Can anyone confirm if ManiAdminPlugin is working or not, with the latest beta engine? Thx Locutus ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I would assume Mani is working to make his plugin compatible. After all that's part of the reason beta was asked for in the first place. On 6/9/07, Rónai György [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Can anyone confirm if ManiAdminPlugin is working or not, with the latest beta engine? Thx Locutus ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Mani will not be releasing any future versions from what I have gathered (front page news on his site). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim Barelds Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:38 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I would assume Mani is working to make his plugin compatible. After all that's part of the reason beta was asked for in the first place. On 6/9/07, Rónai György [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Can anyone confirm if ManiAdminPlugin is working or not, with the latest beta engine? Thx Locutus ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
From http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/ : On behalf of Mani I can tell you nothing more then that he is very busy with a lot of things in his private life and has no time to work on the plugin at this moment. (...) SourceMod will continue what Mani started and I can only say that we hope to see Mani back sometime Cheers, Einar Wim Barelds wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I would assume Mani is working to make his plugin compatible. After all that's part of the reason beta was asked for in the first place. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Mani has been off-line since 2006. There is no word when/if he will be back. Even if he comes back, 5+ months is too long to be away. I still use Mani Admin Plugin 2005 V1.1.0zi. But I have some issues, but restrictions work fine. I am looking to replace Mani Admin. Please send recommendations! Guy http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/ } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim Barelds } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:38 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } I would assume Mani is working to make his plugin compatible. After all } that's part of the reason beta was asked for in the first place. } } On 6/9/07, Rónai György [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Hi } } Can anyone confirm if ManiAdminPlugin is working or not, with the latest } beta engine? } } Thx } Locutus } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } } } } } -- } ___ } Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds } [EMAIL PROTECTED] } -- } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Currently there are no good replacements for mani-admin and if it indeed goes bonkers, 18189 public servers need to find a replacement for it. (addon-stats here http://www.sourcemod.net/stats.php) and Sourcemod really isnt an option because it doesnt have any admin-functions. Or if it does, that stuff is well hidden somewhere without any documentation or instructions how the stuff really works so before any of you start saying how great sourcemod really is, hold back untill you see some real content running on/in it so people can actually use it. for example, more documentation and detailed information about cvars etc would be nice to see. Also this thread is worth a look... http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566697 There was some line on beta updates about plugin backwards compatibility so maybe Valve has actually this time prevented mani-admin from breaking down and they dont change core functions so it wont break. There could be many disappointed server owners out there of mani really goes bonkers after the update is out. Even i have considered running my servers if i have to give up from mani-admin. Really there isnt many good options available. There are infact 3. Matties Eventscripts (with tons of different scripts), Mani-admin's old rival Beetlesmod (less fuctions than mani has) and Sourcemod. Dont really know much about Sourcemod but i guess someone can explain better than the website does. -ics Guy Watkins kirjoitti: Mani has been off-line since 2006. There is no word when/if he will be back. Even if he comes back, 5+ months is too long to be away. I still use Mani Admin Plugin 2005 V1.1.0zi. But I have some issues, but restrictions work fine. I am looking to replace Mani Admin. Please send recommendations! Guy http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/ } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim Barelds } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:38 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } I would assume Mani is working to make his plugin compatible. After all } that's part of the reason beta was asked for in the first place. } } On 6/9/07, Rónai György [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Hi } } Can anyone confirm if ManiAdminPlugin is working or not, with the latest } beta engine? } } Thx } Locutus } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } } } } } -- } ___ } Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds } [EMAIL PROTECTED] } -- } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Hello, i have written an Plugin what has all functions like Mani! The Plugin is named RatMod and everybody can get it from me! Please register as beta tester on www.ratmod.com or contact me in ICQ: 72934153 So i can help to stay actualy with all admin functions everybody needs! With friendly reguards from Germany Ratman2000 - Original Message - From: Wim Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I would assume Mani is working to make his plugin compatible. After all that's part of the reason beta was asked for in the first place. On 6/9/07, Rónai György [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Can anyone confirm if ManiAdminPlugin is working or not, with the latest beta engine? Thx Locutus ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would always tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly switch right away. On 6/9/07, LDuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] SourceMod has moved to beta and they are actively adding the admin functionality now. Plugins are already starting to appear written by SourceMod users for everything from weapon restrictions to team attack control to spawning chef's hats on hostages. From the SourceMod site: In addition to the recent feature of SQL support, SourceMod has gained its first default administrative plugin. Over the next few weeks more of these will appear, and SourceMod will be more and more usable for normal administrators. Our goal is to reproduce most of the original AMX Mod X commands. Judging by the popularity of amxmod and amxmodx on HL1 based servers, SourceMod should rapidly take over for Mani as well as allow customization. All of those people who complained that Mani installed everything instead of just the options they used will be able to setup SourceMod with just those options. Grant (L. Duke) On 6/9/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently there are no good replacements for mani-admin and if it indeed goes bonkers, 18189 public servers need to find a replacement for it. (addon-stats here http://www.sourcemod.net/stats.php) and Sourcemod really isnt an option because it doesnt have any admin-functions. Or if it does, that stuff is well hidden somewhere without any documentation or instructions how the stuff really works so before any of you start saying how great sourcemod really is, hold back untill you see some real content running on/in it so people can actually use it. for example, more documentation and detailed information about cvars etc would be nice to see. Also this thread is worth a look... http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566697 There was some line on beta updates about plugin backwards compatibility so maybe Valve has actually this time prevented mani-admin from breaking down and they dont change core functions so it wont break. There could be many disappointed server owners out there of mani really goes bonkers after the update is out. Even i have considered running my servers if i have to give up from mani-admin. Really there isnt many good options available. There are infact 3. Matties Eventscripts (with tons of different scripts), Mani-admin's old rival Beetlesmod (less fuctions than mani has) and Sourcemod. Dont really know much about Sourcemod but i guess someone can explain better than the website does. -ics Guy Watkins kirjoitti: Mani has been off-line since 2006. There is no word when/if he will be back. Even if he comes back, 5+ months is too long to be away. I still use Mani Admin Plugin 2005 V1.1.0zi. But I have some issues, but restrictions work fine. I am looking to replace Mani Admin. Please send recommendations! Guy http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/ } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim Barelds } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:38 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } I would assume Mani is working to make his plugin compatible. After all } that's part of the reason beta was asked for in the first place. } } On 6/9/07, Rónai György [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Hi } } Can anyone confirm if ManiAdminPlugin is working or not, with the latest } beta engine? } } Thx } Locutus } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } } } } } -- } ___ } Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds } [EMAIL PROTECTED] } -- } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] SourceMod has moved to beta and they are actively adding the admin functionality now. Plugins are already starting to appear written by SourceMod users for everything from weapon restrictions to team attack control to spawning chef's hats on hostages. From the SourceMod site: In addition to the recent feature of SQL support, SourceMod has gained its first default administrative plugin. Over the next few weeks more of these will appear, and SourceMod will be more and more usable for normal administrators. Our goal is to reproduce most of the original AMX Mod X commands. Judging by the popularity of amxmod and amxmodx on HL1 based servers, SourceMod should rapidly take over for Mani as well as allow customization. All of those people who complained that Mani installed everything instead of just the options they used will be able to setup SourceMod with just those options. Grant (L. Duke) On 6/9/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently there are no good replacements for mani-admin and if it indeed goes bonkers, 18189 public servers need to find a replacement for it. (addon-stats here http://www.sourcemod.net/stats.php) and Sourcemod really isnt an option because it doesnt have any admin-functions. Or if it does, that stuff is well hidden somewhere without any documentation or instructions how the stuff really works so before any of you start saying how great sourcemod really is, hold back untill you see some real content running on/in it so people can actually use it. for example, more documentation and detailed information about cvars etc would be nice to see. Also this thread is worth a look... http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566697 There was some line on beta updates about plugin backwards compatibility so maybe Valve has actually this time prevented mani-admin from breaking down and they dont change core functions so it wont break. There could be many disappointed server owners out there of mani really goes bonkers after the update is out. Even i have considered running my servers if i have to give up from mani-admin. Really there isnt many good options available. There are infact 3. Matties Eventscripts (with tons of different scripts), Mani-admin's old rival Beetlesmod (less fuctions than mani has) and Sourcemod. Dont really know much about Sourcemod but i guess someone can explain better than the website does. -ics Guy Watkins kirjoitti: Mani has been off-line since 2006. There is no word when/if he will be back. Even if he comes back, 5+ months is too long to be away. I still use Mani Admin Plugin 2005 V1.1.0zi. But I have some issues, but restrictions work fine. I am looking to replace Mani Admin. Please send recommendations! Guy http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/ } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim Barelds } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:38 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } I would assume Mani is working to make his plugin compatible. After all } that's part of the reason beta was asked for in the first place. } } On 6/9/07, Rónai György [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Hi } } Can anyone confirm if ManiAdminPlugin is working or not, with the latest } beta engine? } } Thx } Locutus } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } } } } } -- } ___ } Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds } [EMAIL PROTECTED] } -- } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
I assume because a lot of admins would abuse that. By telling the players what evil the admins are doing they can decide it they want to stay on your server. } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:11 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would always } tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood } why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was } an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly switch } right away. } } On 6/9/07, LDuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } SourceMod has moved to beta and they are actively adding the admin } functionality now. Plugins are already starting to appear written by } SourceMod users for everything from weapon restrictions to team attack } control to spawning chef's hats on hostages. } } From the SourceMod site: } In addition to the recent feature of SQL support, SourceMod has gained } its } first default administrative plugin. Over the next few weeks more of } these } will appear, and SourceMod will be more and more usable for normal } administrators. Our goal is to reproduce most of the original AMX Mod X } commands. } } Judging by the popularity of amxmod and amxmodx on HL1 based servers, } SourceMod should rapidly take over for Mani as well as allow } customization. } All of those people who complained that Mani installed everything } instead of } just the options they used will be able to setup SourceMod with just } those } options. } } Grant } (L. Duke) } } } } On 6/9/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Currently there are no good replacements for mani-admin and if it } indeed } goes bonkers, 18189 public servers need to find a replacement for it. } (addon-stats here http://www.sourcemod.net/stats.php) and Sourcemod } really isnt an option because it doesnt have any admin-functions. Or } if } it does, that stuff is well hidden somewhere without any documentation } or instructions how the stuff really works so before any of you start } saying how great sourcemod really is, hold back untill you see some } real } content running on/in it so people can actually use it. for example, } more documentation and detailed information about cvars etc would be } nice to see. Also this thread is worth a look... } http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566697 } } There was some line on beta updates about plugin backwards } compatibility } so maybe Valve has actually this time prevented mani-admin from } breaking } down and they dont change core functions so it wont break. There could } be many disappointed server owners out there of mani really goes } bonkers } after the update is out. Even i have considered running my servers if } i } have to give up from mani-admin. Really there isnt many good options } available. There are infact 3. Matties Eventscripts (with tons of } different scripts), Mani-admin's old rival Beetlesmod (less fuctions } than mani has) and Sourcemod. Dont really know much about Sourcemod } but } i guess someone can explain better than the website does. } } -ics } } Guy Watkins kirjoitti: }Mani has been off-line since 2006. There is no word when/if he will } be }back. Even if he comes back, 5+ months is too long to be away. I } still } use }Mani Admin Plugin 2005 V1.1.0zi. But I have some issues, but } restrictions }work fine. } }I am looking to replace Mani Admin. Please send recommendations! } }Guy } }http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/ } } }} -Original Message- }} From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- }} [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim Barelds }} Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:38 PM }} To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com }} Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update }} }} -- }} [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] }} I would assume Mani is working to make his plugin compatible. } After } all }} that's part of the reason beta was asked for in the first place. }} }} On 6/9/07, Rónai György [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: }} }} Hi }} }} Can anyone confirm if ManiAdminPlugin is working or not, with } the } latest }} beta engine? }} }} Thx }} Locutus }} }} ___ }} To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list } archives, }} please visit: }} http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux }} }} }} }} }} -- }} ___ }} Wim 'TheUnknownFactor' Barelds }} [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
True, and that's what Mani says is the reason. But we do a special Admin Night / Map Night on Friday nights where we give tons of things, and change around health, slap to 1 health, etc, etc. It's the only night our server is 100% full at around 40-50 players, and everybody enjoys it. So, most people don't consider it abuse. It just annoys people that their chat is being obstructed by all those commands. And sometimes it takes too long to @rcon ma_give or rcon through console, etc. On 6/9/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume because a lot of admins would abuse that. By telling the players what evil the admins are doing they can decide it they want to stay on your server. } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:11 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would always } tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood } why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was } an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly switch } right away. } } On 6/9/07, LDuke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } SourceMod has moved to beta and they are actively adding the admin } functionality now. Plugins are already starting to appear written by } SourceMod users for everything from weapon restrictions to team attack } control to spawning chef's hats on hostages. } } From the SourceMod site: } In addition to the recent feature of SQL support, SourceMod has gained } its } first default administrative plugin. Over the next few weeks more of } these } will appear, and SourceMod will be more and more usable for normal } administrators. Our goal is to reproduce most of the original AMX Mod X } commands. } } Judging by the popularity of amxmod and amxmodx on HL1 based servers, } SourceMod should rapidly take over for Mani as well as allow } customization. } All of those people who complained that Mani installed everything } instead of } just the options they used will be able to setup SourceMod with just } those } options. } } Grant } (L. Duke) } } } } On 6/9/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Currently there are no good replacements for mani-admin and if it } indeed } goes bonkers, 18189 public servers need to find a replacement for it. } (addon-stats here http://www.sourcemod.net/stats.php) and Sourcemod } really isnt an option because it doesnt have any admin-functions. Or } if } it does, that stuff is well hidden somewhere without any documentation } or instructions how the stuff really works so before any of you start } saying how great sourcemod really is, hold back untill you see some } real } content running on/in it so people can actually use it. for example, } more documentation and detailed information about cvars etc would be } nice to see. Also this thread is worth a look... } http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566697 } } There was some line on beta updates about plugin backwards } compatibility } so maybe Valve has actually this time prevented mani-admin from } breaking } down and they dont change core functions so it wont break. There could } be many disappointed server owners out there of mani really goes } bonkers } after the update is out. Even i have considered running my servers if } i } have to give up from mani-admin. Really there isnt many good options } available. There are infact 3. Matties Eventscripts (with tons of } different scripts), Mani-admin's old rival Beetlesmod (less fuctions } than mani has) and Sourcemod. Dont really know much about Sourcemod } but } i guess someone can explain better than the website does. } } -ics } } Guy Watkins kirjoitti: }Mani has been off-line since 2006. There is no word when/if he will } be }back. Even if he comes back, 5+ months is too long to be away. I } still } use }Mani Admin Plugin 2005 V1.1.0zi. But I have some issues, but } restrictions }work fine. } }I am looking to replace Mani Admin. Please send recommendations! } }Guy } }http://www.mani-admin-plugin.com/ } } }} -Original Message- }} From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- }} [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wim Barelds }} Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:38 PM }} To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com }} Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update }} }} -- }} [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] }} I would assume Mani is working to make his plugin compatible. } After } all }} that's part of the reason beta was asked for in the first place. }} }} On 6/9/07, Rónai György [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: }} }} Hi
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
IN the mani_server.cfg there is a section called (the Newest Version 1.2) Just Change all the 0 zeros to ones // * // Module : Admin action messages // // Desc : This section defines which admin actions will be anonymous to // non-admins on your server. If the option is set to 1 then the action // will not be shown to non-admins, if set to 0 then all players will // see which admin kicked/slayed/banned/etc a player. // * - Original Message - From: Ryan Veltidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update True, and that's what Mani says is the reason. But we do a special Admin Night / Map Night on Friday nights where we give tons of things, and change around health, slap to 1 health, etc, etc. It's the only night our server is 100% full at around 40-50 players, and everybody enjoys it. So, most people don't consider it abuse. It just annoys people that their chat is being obstructed by all those commands. And sometimes it takes too long to @rcon ma_give or rcon through console, etc. On 6/9/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume because a lot of admins would abuse that. By telling the players what evil the admins are doing they can decide it they want to stay on your server. } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:11 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would always } tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood } why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was } an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly switch } right away. } ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Those are just anonymous, they only remove the admin name not the entire line from appearing. On 6/9/07, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IN the mani_server.cfg there is a section called (the Newest Version 1.2) Just Change all the 0 zeros to ones // * // Module : Admin action messages // // Desc : This section defines which admin actions will be anonymous to // non-admins on your server. If the option is set to 1 then the action // will not be shown to non-admins, if set to 0 then all players will // see which admin kicked/slayed/banned/etc a player. // * - Original Message - From: Ryan Veltidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update True, and that's what Mani says is the reason. But we do a special Admin Night / Map Night on Friday nights where we give tons of things, and change around health, slap to 1 health, etc, etc. It's the only night our server is 100% full at around 40-50 players, and everybody enjoys it. So, most people don't consider it abuse. It just annoys people that their chat is being obstructed by all those commands. And sometimes it takes too long to @rcon ma_give or rcon through console, etc. On 6/9/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume because a lot of admins would abuse that. By telling the players what evil the admins are doing they can decide it they want to stay on your server. } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:11 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would always } tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood } why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was } an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly switch } right away. } ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
My performance problems explained (I hope)! My startup script had been running as root and using nice -5 to run srcds_run at a higher priority than normal. On my newest system I am not running it as root so I had to make changes and learn some sudo magic. I ended up changing my script to use renice -5 and not nice -5. But there are threads and renice does not renice the threads. This seems to be causing the main process to use a lot of CPU! Even with zero players the CPU load is 60-95%. When I don't renice the process the CPU load is normal. I can even get it back to normal by doing renice 0. On my system that does not have this problem I am using: nice -n -5 screen -d -m -S css1 ./srcds_run +maxplayers 21 +map breakfloor +log on -secure -tickrate 33 +port 27015 But that changes the nice on other processes that don't need to be changed. So when I reworked my script I only renice srcds_i686. It seemed better to only renice srcds_i686. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/BigFS/css1$ sudo renice -5 8363 8363: old priority 0, new priority -5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/BigFS/css1$ ps -elyL|grep i686 S UID PID PPID LWP C PRI NI RSSSZ WCHAN TTY TIME CMD R 1000 8363 8352 8363 0 76 -5 69044 37611 - pts/200:02:05 srcds_i686 S 1000 8363 8352 8364 0 79 0 69044 37611 futex_ pts/200:00:00 srcds_i686 S 1000 8363 8352 8367 2 75 0 69044 37611 futex_ pts/200:05:27 srcds_i686 Oh, this renice -5 problem does not exist with the pre-beta. Not sure why. Hopefully now that I don't renice -5, my performance problems will be gone. Valve, you have my permission to make the beta live! :) Guy } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 9:32 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } Those are just anonymous, they only remove the admin name not the } entire line from appearing. } } On 6/9/07, Munra -hlds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } IN the mani_server.cfg there is a section called (the Newest Version } 1.2) } Just Change all the 0 zeros to ones } // } } ** } *** } // Module : Admin action messages } // } // Desc : This section defines which admin actions will be anonymous to } // non-admins on your server. If the option is set to 1 then the action } // will not be shown to non-admins, if set to 0 then all players will } // see which admin kicked/slayed/banned/etc a player. } // } } ** } *** } - Original Message - } From: Ryan Veltidi [EMAIL PROTECTED] } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 8:13 PM } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } True, and that's what Mani says is the reason. But we do a special } Admin Night / Map Night on Friday nights where we give tons of } things, and change around health, slap to 1 health, etc, etc. It's the } only night our server is 100% full at around 40-50 players, and } everybody enjoys it. So, most people don't consider it abuse. It just } annoys people that their chat is being obstructed by all those } commands. } } And sometimes it takes too long to @rcon ma_give or rcon through } console, } etc. } } } On 6/9/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } I assume because a lot of admins would abuse that. By telling the } players } what evil the admins are doing they can decide it they want to stay on } your } server. } } } -Original Message- } } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Veltidi } } Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:11 PM } } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } } The only thing that I did not like about Mani was that it would } always } } tell the server whenever I used an admin command. I never understood } } why player X has to know that I slapped/slayed player Y. If this was } } an option (or editable source!) in SourceMod, I would certainly } switch } } right away. } } } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Am I doing something wrong? Still not working. Not with sv_pure 2 (not forcing original files) or with sv_pure 1, and sv_pure_kick_clients 1 (not kicking). Here's another shot http://www.pilipali.info/de_dust20001.jpg status: hostname: XX version : 1.0.0.34/7 3128 secure udp/ip : XX map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 0 (19 max) sv_pure sv_pure = 1 ( def. 0 ) sv_pure_kick_clients sv_pure_kick_clients = 1 ( def. 0 ) On 6/6/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to turn on sv_pure_kick_clients 1 if you want to kick clients right now. When we do the full release that will be the default setting. - Alfred -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Why dont you set it in your server.cfg ? - Original Message - From: Jani Tiira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Am I doing something wrong? Still not working. Not with sv_pure 2 (not forcing original files) or with sv_pure 1, and sv_pure_kick_clients 1 (not kicking). Here's another shot http://www.pilipali.info/de_dust20001.jpg status: hostname: XX version : 1.0.0.34/7 3128 secure udp/ip : XX map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 0 (19 max) sv_pure sv_pure = 1 ( def. 0 ) sv_pure_kick_clients sv_pure_kick_clients = 1 ( def. 0 ) On 6/6/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to turn on sv_pure_kick_clients 1 if you want to kick clients right now. When we do the full release that will be the default setting. - Alfred -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Also remember that sv_pure changes don't apply until the next map change. - Alfred Svensk Ljud Ljus Produktion wrote: Why dont you set it in your server.cfg ? - Original Message - From: Jani Tiira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Am I doing something wrong? Still not working. Not with sv_pure 2 (not forcing original files) or with sv_pure 1, and sv_pure_kick_clients 1 (not kicking). Here's another shot http://www.pilipali.info/de_dust20001.jpg status: hostname: XX version : 1.0.0.34/7 3128 secure udp/ip : XX map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 0 (19 max) sv_pure sv_pure = 1 ( def. 0 ) sv_pure_kick_clients sv_pure_kick_clients = 1 ( def. 0 ) On 6/6/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to turn on sv_pure_kick_clients 1 if you want to kick clients right now. When we do the full release that will be the default setting. - Alfred -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It is set in the server.cfg.. the console output is just to show that it is on. I've changed the map and double-checked that the sv_pure setting is still on. It just doesn't work. Is the server version ok? On 6/8/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also remember that sv_pure changes don't apply until the next map change. - Alfred Svensk Ljud Ljus Produktion wrote: Why dont you set it in your server.cfg ? - Original Message - From: Jani Tiira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Am I doing something wrong? Still not working. Not with sv_pure 2 (not forcing original files) or with sv_pure 1, and sv_pure_kick_clients 1 (not kicking). Here's another shot http://www.pilipali.info/de_dust20001.jpg status: hostname: XX version : 1.0.0.34/7 3128 secure udp/ip : XX map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z players : 0 (19 max) sv_pure sv_pure = 1 ( def. 0 ) sv_pure_kick_clients sv_pure_kick_clients = 1 ( def. 0 ) On 6/6/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to turn on sv_pure_kick_clients 1 if you want to kick clients right now. When we do the full release that will be the default setting. - Alfred -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nevermind.. just me not trying everything out. You must have the pure_server_whitelist.txt or it won't work. -- Jani -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Scratch that, forgot detox_mm on. Still not working. So Alfred if you could please look into this. On 6/9/07, Jani Tiira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nevermind.. just me not trying everything out. You must have the pure_server_whitelist.txt or it won't work. -- Jani -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
I think the beta client is also needed. But going from memory! I never tried it. } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jani Tiira } Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 3:51 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } It is set in the server.cfg.. the console output is just to show that it } is } on. I've changed the map and double-checked that the sv_pure setting is } still on. It just doesn't work. Is the server version ok? } } On 6/8/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Also remember that sv_pure changes don't apply until the next map } change. } } - Alfred } } Svensk Ljud Ljus Produktion wrote: } Why dont you set it in your server.cfg ? } } - Original Message - } From: Jani Tiira [EMAIL PROTECTED] } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:53 AM } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } -- } [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] } Am I doing something wrong? Still not working. Not with sv_pure 2 } (not forcing original files) or with sv_pure 1, and } sv_pure_kick_clients 1 (not kicking). } } Here's another shot } http://www.pilipali.info/de_dust20001.jpg } } status: } hostname: XX } version : 1.0.0.34/7 3128 secure } udp/ip : XX } map : de_dust2 at: 0 x, 0 y, 0 z } players : 0 (19 max) } } sv_pure } sv_pure = 1 ( def. 0 ) } } sv_pure_kick_clients } sv_pure_kick_clients = 1 ( def. 0 ) } } } } On 6/6/07, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } You need to turn on sv_pure_kick_clients 1 if you want to kick } clients right now. When we do the full release that will be the } default setting. } } - Alfred } } } } -- } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list } archives, please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list } archives, please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } } -- } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
On 6/8/07, Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the beta client is also needed. But going from memory! I never tried it. I spent a bit of time digging around the list archives earlier today to interpret exactly what beta client entails. At first I thought it was extra parameters to starting hl2/css but you actually need to throw -beta srcds0407 at steam.exe itself, and not just your hl2/css startup parameters. For example, here is how I had to start up steam to get the beta client going: C:\Steam\Steam.exe -beta srcds0407 It worked perfectly for me after that and I am thoroughly stoked about preventing texture/model hackers on my server as soon as this update goes live! Of course, we're still scrambling around figuring out what to do about the imminent demise of Mani but that's another topic for another thread... Hope this helps some others like myself who felt like noobs not knowing how to run your Steam client in beta! ;) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi! What build is it showing your beta-client? Mine is 3130 an it still lets me in. Do you have the pure_server_whitelist.txt somewhere in your server-directory? And if you do, where is it supposed to be? in cstrike/ ? Like I said, I seem to have tried everything but I just can't get it to work. And what build is your server showing up? Mine says version : 1.0.0.34/7 3128 secure (where as normal servers are version : 1.0.0.34/73048 secure). I know it's just me not getting it to work. But this will bug me forever if I can't get it to work. :P On 6/9/07, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I spent a bit of time digging around the list archives earlier today to interpret exactly what beta client entails. At first I thought it was extra parameters to starting hl2/css but you actually need to throw -beta srcds0407 at steam.exe itself, and not just your hl2/css startup parameters. For example, here is how I had to start up steam to get the beta client going: C:\Steam\Steam.exe -beta srcds0407 It worked perfectly for me after that and I am thoroughly stoked about preventing texture/model hackers on my server as soon as this update goes live! Of course, we're still scrambling around figuring out what to do about the imminent demise of Mani but that's another topic for another thread... Hope this helps some others like myself who felt like noobs not knowing how to run your Steam client in beta! ;) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
I repeated the test on my older system. It does not have that problem with the new beta. Top output: top - 02:32:27 up 5:45, 3 users, load average: 0.41, 0.38, 0.32 Tasks: 140 total, 1 running, 139 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu0 : 2.6%us, 5.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 91.1%id, 0.0%wa, 0.3%hi, 0.0%si, 0.3%st Cpu1 : 0.3%us, 2.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem:962552k total, 956408k used, 6144k free,29528k buffers Swap: 4192752k total, 184k used, 4192568k free, 605340k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 4776 root 10 -5 147m 65m 14m S4 7.0 0:40.84 srcds_i486 [EMAIL PROTECTED] css1]# uname -a Linux linux 2.6.20-1.2948.fc6xen #1 SMP Fri Apr 27 20:07:53 EDT 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux The hardware is a P3-1000GHz with 2 CPUs. Maybe the srcds_i486 is better than the srcds_i686? Anyway, it looks like my old system is better with the newer beta. Guy } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guy Watkins } Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:10 AM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } -Original Message- } } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen } } Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:24 PM } } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } } Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } } An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. } } To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta } } srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a } } few days. The specific changes include: } } } } - Fixed a server performance problem with queued packets } } - Fixed a Counter-Strike: Source flashbang exploit in dxlevel 80 } } - Game DLLs export ServerGameClients003 for backwards compatibility for } } plugins } } - Only allows mat_picmip to be set to 0, 1, or 2 when in multiplayer and } } sv_cheats=0 } } - Cheat-protected snd_foliage_db_loss. Could be used to turn off ambient } } sounds in Counter-Strike: Source } } - Fixed a crash when mashing the ~ key on disconnect } } - Fixed a crash with certain materials being blocked from reloading due } } to sv_pure 0 } } - Fixed bug with audio files of different formats overriding the files } } in Steam where it would use the original audio file's sample rate/format } } information after pure server rules forced it to load a different file } } } } Jason } } Crap! I have been running the non-beta, I just updated to the new beta } and } the CPU usage it 70-99% with 1 player. It seemed normal at first, after } about 10 minutes of play it started to lag and quickly became unusable. I } get what seems like lag. Take some shots and the ammo usage returns to } what } it was before I took the shots. Going back in time. I have seen this } with } 1 map that required a lot of CPU, more than normal. But I am playing } breakfloor, it runs fine on a P3-500MHz. I am currently running the } server } on a P4 Celeron 2.4GHz. I have been using this computer for about 2 weeks } without this problem. I have had 10 players without problems. } } uname -a } Linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 } GNU/Linux } } The system only has 1 CPU, not sure why it says SMP? } } top - 00:24:44 up 1:10, 6 users, load average: 9.53, 9.18, 5.60 } Tasks: 103 total, 10 running, 93 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie } Cpu(s): 38.3%us, 49.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 11.9%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, } 0.0%st } Mem:247468k total, 238552k used, 8916k free, 444k buffers } Swap: 722884k total,62396k used, 660488k free,39624k cached } } PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND } 6264 guy 15 0 147m 66m 13m R 87.1 27.4 12:27.99 srcds_i686 } } Alfred, this is a different computer. The other computer had some RAID6 } problems and I am testing it now. It will return soon. } } Oh, I still get these messages, but they don't seem to cause any problems: } utlmemory.h (314) : Assertion Failed: IsIdxValid(i) } } I reverted to the non-beta and played the same map for about 10 minutes } and } no problems. Here it a sample from top: } top - 00:54:00 up 1:39, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.27, 1.43 } Tasks: 98 total, 1 running, 97 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie } Cpu(s): 1.3%us, 1.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, } 0.0%st } Mem:247468k total, 243804k used, 3664k free, 2364k buffers } Swap: 722884k total,68352k used, 654532k free,53976k cached } } PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND } 7976 guy 10 -5 144m 65m 13m S 2.7 26.9 0:15.76 srcds_i686 } } Thanks, } Guy } } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Okokok, I retested on the new system and can't reproduce the problem. Even with 2 players and over 10 minutes of play. This top sample is with 2 players: top - 07:13:01 up 7:58, 5 users, load average: 0.08, 0.16, 0.17 Tasks: 101 total, 2 running, 99 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 7.6%us, 1.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 90.4%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st Mem:247468k total, 243508k used, 3960k free, 3836k buffers Swap: 722884k total,68456k used, 654428k free,47100k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 16817 guy 15 0 146m 67m 14m R 9.3 27.8 1:38.80 srcds_i686 Guy } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guy Watkins } Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:37 AM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } I repeated the test on my older system. It does not have that problem } with } the new beta. Top output: } top - 02:32:27 up 5:45, 3 users, load average: 0.41, 0.38, 0.32 } Tasks: 140 total, 1 running, 139 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie } Cpu0 : 2.6%us, 5.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 91.1%id, 0.0%wa, 0.3%hi, 0.0%si, } 0.3%st } Cpu1 : 0.3%us, 2.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, } 0.0%st } Mem:962552k total, 956408k used, 6144k free,29528k buffers } Swap: 4192752k total, 184k used, 4192568k free, 605340k cached } } PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND } 4776 root 10 -5 147m 65m 14m S4 7.0 0:40.84 srcds_i486 } } [EMAIL PROTECTED] css1]# uname -a } Linux linux 2.6.20-1.2948.fc6xen #1 SMP Fri Apr 27 20:07:53 EDT 2007 i686 } i686 i386 GNU/Linux } } The hardware is a P3-1000GHz with 2 CPUs. } } Maybe the srcds_i486 is better than the srcds_i686? } } Anyway, it looks like my old system is better with the newer beta. } } Guy } } } } } -Original Message- } } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guy Watkins } } Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:10 AM } } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } } Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } } } -Original Message- } } } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } } } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen } } } Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:24 PM } } } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } } } Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } } } } An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. } } } To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta } } } srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within } a } } } few days. The specific changes include: } } } } } } - Fixed a server performance problem with queued packets } } } - Fixed a Counter-Strike: Source flashbang exploit in dxlevel 80 } } } - Game DLLs export ServerGameClients003 for backwards compatibility } for } } } plugins } } } - Only allows mat_picmip to be set to 0, 1, or 2 when in multiplayer } and } } } sv_cheats=0 } } } - Cheat-protected snd_foliage_db_loss. Could be used to turn off } ambient } } } sounds in Counter-Strike: Source } } } - Fixed a crash when mashing the ~ key on disconnect } } } - Fixed a crash with certain materials being blocked from reloading } due } } } to sv_pure 0 } } } - Fixed bug with audio files of different formats overriding the files } } } in Steam where it would use the original audio file's sample } rate/format } } } information after pure server rules forced it to load a different file } } } } } } Jason } } } } Crap! I have been running the non-beta, I just updated to the new beta } } and } } the CPU usage it 70-99% with 1 player. It seemed normal at first, after } } about 10 minutes of play it started to lag and quickly became unusable. } I } } get what seems like lag. Take some shots and the ammo usage returns to } } what } } it was before I took the shots. Going back in time. I have seen this } } with } } 1 map that required a lot of CPU, more than normal. But I am playing } } breakfloor, it runs fine on a P3-500MHz. I am currently running the } } server } } on a P4 Celeron 2.4GHz. I have been using this computer for about 2 } weeks } } without this problem. I have had 10 players without problems. } } } } uname -a } } Linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 } } GNU/Linux } } } } The system only has 1 CPU, not sure why it says SMP? } } } } top - 00:24:44 up 1:10, 6 users, load average: 9.53, 9.18, 5.60 } } Tasks: 103 total, 10 running, 93 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie } } Cpu(s): 38.3%us, 49.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 11.9%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, } } 0.0%st } } Mem:247468k total, 238552k used, 8916k free, 444k buffers } } Swap: 722884k total,62396k used, 660488k free,39624k cached } } } } PID USER PR
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Today the Celaron 2.4 GHz is having issues again with the beta. The CPU usage jumps wildly. The game glitches (like lag). I can't use the beta on that system. The older P3-1000MHz is fine. Guy } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guy Watkins } Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:16 AM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } Okokok, I retested on the new system and can't reproduce the problem. } } Even with 2 players and over 10 minutes of play. This top sample is with } 2 } players: } } top - 07:13:01 up 7:58, 5 users, load average: 0.08, 0.16, 0.17 } Tasks: 101 total, 2 running, 99 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie } Cpu(s): 7.6%us, 1.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 90.4%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, } 0.0%st } Mem:247468k total, 243508k used, 3960k free, 3836k buffers } Swap: 722884k total,68456k used, 654428k free,47100k cached } } PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND } 16817 guy 15 0 146m 67m 14m R 9.3 27.8 1:38.80 srcds_i686 } } Guy } } } -Original Message- } } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guy Watkins } } Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:37 AM } } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } } Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } } I repeated the test on my older system. It does not have that problem } } with } } the new beta. Top output: } } top - 02:32:27 up 5:45, 3 users, load average: 0.41, 0.38, 0.32 } } Tasks: 140 total, 1 running, 139 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie } } Cpu0 : 2.6%us, 5.6%sy, 0.0%ni, 91.1%id, 0.0%wa, 0.3%hi, 0.0%si, } } 0.3%st } } Cpu1 : 0.3%us, 2.0%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.7%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, } } 0.0%st } } Mem:962552k total, 956408k used, 6144k free,29528k buffers } } Swap: 4192752k total, 184k used, 4192568k free, 605340k cached } } } } PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND } } 4776 root 10 -5 147m 65m 14m S4 7.0 0:40.84 srcds_i486 } } } } [EMAIL PROTECTED] css1]# uname -a } } Linux linux 2.6.20-1.2948.fc6xen #1 SMP Fri Apr 27 20:07:53 EDT 2007 } i686 } } i686 i386 GNU/Linux } } } } The hardware is a P3-1000GHz with 2 CPUs. } } } } Maybe the srcds_i486 is better than the srcds_i686? } } } } Anyway, it looks like my old system is better with the newer beta. } } } } Guy } } } } } } } } } -Original Message- } } } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } } } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guy Watkins } } } Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:10 AM } } } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } } } Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } } } } } -Original Message- } } } } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } } } } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen } } } } Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:24 PM } } } } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } } } } Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } } } } } } An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now } available. } } } } To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta } } } } srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it } within } } a } } } } few days. The specific changes include: } } } } } } } } - Fixed a server performance problem with queued packets } } } } - Fixed a Counter-Strike: Source flashbang exploit in dxlevel 80 } } } } - Game DLLs export ServerGameClients003 for backwards compatibility } } for } } } } plugins } } } } - Only allows mat_picmip to be set to 0, 1, or 2 when in multiplayer } } and } } } } sv_cheats=0 } } } } - Cheat-protected snd_foliage_db_loss. Could be used to turn off } } ambient } } } } sounds in Counter-Strike: Source } } } } - Fixed a crash when mashing the ~ key on disconnect } } } } - Fixed a crash with certain materials being blocked from reloading } } due } } } } to sv_pure 0 } } } } - Fixed bug with audio files of different formats overriding the } files } } } } in Steam where it would use the original audio file's sample } } rate/format } } } } information after pure server rules forced it to load a different } file } } } } } } } } Jason } } } } } } Crap! I have been running the non-beta, I just updated to the new } beta } } } and } } } the CPU usage it 70-99% with 1 player. It seemed normal at first, } after } } } about 10 minutes of play it started to lag and quickly became } unusable. } } I } } } get what seems like lag. Take some shots and the ammo usage returns } to } } } what } } } it was before I took the shots. Going back in time. I have seen this } } } with } } } 1 map that required a lot of CPU, more than normal. But I am playing } } } breakfloor, it runs fine on a P3-500MHz. I am currently running the } } } server } } } on a P4 Celeron 2.4GHz
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
The last update fixed that. Michael Shavit wrote: Is this update fixing the fps bug from the 13.3.2007 update, on servers with glibc libraries prior 2.3.5? Cheers, Michael An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a few days. The specific changes include: - Fixed a server performance problem with queued packets - Fixed a Counter-Strike: Source flashbang exploit in dxlevel 80 - Game DLLs export ServerGameClients003 for backwards compatibility for plugins - Only allows mat_picmip to be set to 0, 1, or 2 when in multiplayer and sv_cheats=0 - Cheat-protected snd_foliage_db_loss. Could be used to turn off ambient sounds in Counter-Strike: Source - Fixed a crash when mashing the ~ key on disconnect - Fixed a crash with certain materials being blocked from reloading due to sv_pure 0 - Fixed bug with audio files of different formats overriding the files in Steam where it would use the original audio file's sample rate/format information after pure server rules forced it to load a different file Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Hi Alfred, sorry not very aware of all english syntaxes, with last you mean the one below? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2007 18:43 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update The last update fixed that. Michael Shavit wrote: Is this update fixing the fps bug from the 13.3.2007 update, on servers with glibc libraries prior 2.3.5? Cheers, Michael An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a few days. The specific changes include: - Fixed a server performance problem with queued packets - Fixed a Counter-Strike: Source flashbang exploit in dxlevel 80 - Game DLLs export ServerGameClients003 for backwards compatibility for plugins - Only allows mat_picmip to be set to 0, 1, or 2 when in multiplayer and sv_cheats=0 - Cheat-protected snd_foliage_db_loss. Could be used to turn off ambient sounds in Counter-Strike: Source - Fixed a crash when mashing the ~ key on disconnect - Fixed a crash with certain materials being blocked from reloading due to sv_pure 0 - Fixed bug with audio files of different formats overriding the files in Steam where it would use the original audio file's sample rate/format information after pure server rules forced it to load a different file Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
The one before that one actually, the one from 5/21 had a fix for that. - Alfred Michael Shavit wrote: Hi Alfred, sorry not very aware of all english syntaxes, with last you mean the one below? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2007 18:43 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update The last update fixed that. Michael Shavit wrote: Is this update fixing the fps bug from the 13.3.2007 update, on servers with glibc libraries prior 2.3.5? Cheers, Michael An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a few days. The specific changes include: - Fixed a server performance problem with queued packets - Fixed a Counter-Strike: Source flashbang exploit in dxlevel 80 - Game DLLs export ServerGameClients003 for backwards compatibility for plugins - Only allows mat_picmip to be set to 0, 1, or 2 when in multiplayer and sv_cheats=0 - Cheat-protected snd_foliage_db_loss. Could be used to turn off ambient sounds in Counter-Strike: Source - Fixed a crash when mashing the ~ key on disconnect - Fixed a crash with certain materials being blocked from reloading due to sv_pure 0 - Fixed bug with audio files of different formats overriding the files in Steam where it would use the original audio file's sample rate/format information after pure server rules forced it to load a different file Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Hi Alfred, Thanks for clearing this out, so we'll have a check now how it works, if you don't mind I will post a result here. If we have still the fps drops on debian sarge servers, I hope your team will still find the time to try to fix it. Cheers, Michael -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2007 20:59 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update The one before that one actually, the one from 5/21 had a fix for that. - Alfred Michael Shavit wrote: Hi Alfred, sorry not very aware of all english syntaxes, with last you mean the one below? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Mittwoch, 6. Juni 2007 18:43 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update The last update fixed that. Michael Shavit wrote: Is this update fixing the fps bug from the 13.3.2007 update, on servers with glibc libraries prior 2.3.5? Cheers, Michael An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a few days. The specific changes include: - Fixed a server performance problem with queued packets - Fixed a Counter-Strike: Source flashbang exploit in dxlevel 80 - Game DLLs export ServerGameClients003 for backwards compatibility for plugins - Only allows mat_picmip to be set to 0, 1, or 2 when in multiplayer and sv_cheats=0 - Cheat-protected snd_foliage_db_loss. Could be used to turn off ambient sounds in Counter-Strike: Source - Fixed a crash when mashing the ~ key on disconnect - Fixed a crash with certain materials being blocked from reloading due to sv_pure 0 - Fixed bug with audio files of different formats overriding the files in Steam where it would use the original audio file's sample rate/format information after pure server rules forced it to load a different file Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
} -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen } Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:24 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. } To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta } srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a } few days. The specific changes include: } } - Fixed a server performance problem with queued packets } - Fixed a Counter-Strike: Source flashbang exploit in dxlevel 80 } - Game DLLs export ServerGameClients003 for backwards compatibility for } plugins } - Only allows mat_picmip to be set to 0, 1, or 2 when in multiplayer and } sv_cheats=0 } - Cheat-protected snd_foliage_db_loss. Could be used to turn off ambient } sounds in Counter-Strike: Source } - Fixed a crash when mashing the ~ key on disconnect } - Fixed a crash with certain materials being blocked from reloading due } to sv_pure 0 } - Fixed bug with audio files of different formats overriding the files } in Steam where it would use the original audio file's sample rate/format } information after pure server rules forced it to load a different file } } Jason Crap! I have been running the non-beta, I just updated to the new beta and the CPU usage it 70-99% with 1 player. It seemed normal at first, after about 10 minutes of play it started to lag and quickly became unusable. I get what seems like lag. Take some shots and the ammo usage returns to what it was before I took the shots. Going back in time. I have seen this with 1 map that required a lot of CPU, more than normal. But I am playing breakfloor, it runs fine on a P3-500MHz. I am currently running the server on a P4 Celeron 2.4GHz. I have been using this computer for about 2 weeks without this problem. I have had 10 players without problems. uname -a Linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux The system only has 1 CPU, not sure why it says SMP? top - 00:24:44 up 1:10, 6 users, load average: 9.53, 9.18, 5.60 Tasks: 103 total, 10 running, 93 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 38.3%us, 49.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 11.9%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem:247468k total, 238552k used, 8916k free, 444k buffers Swap: 722884k total,62396k used, 660488k free,39624k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 6264 guy 15 0 147m 66m 13m R 87.1 27.4 12:27.99 srcds_i686 Alfred, this is a different computer. The other computer had some RAID6 problems and I am testing it now. It will return soon. Oh, I still get these messages, but they don't seem to cause any problems: utlmemory.h (314) : Assertion Failed: IsIdxValid(i) I reverted to the non-beta and played the same map for about 10 minutes and no problems. Here it a sample from top: top - 00:54:00 up 1:39, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.27, 1.43 Tasks: 98 total, 1 running, 97 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.3%us, 1.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem:247468k total, 243804k used, 3664k free, 2364k buffers Swap: 722884k total,68352k used, 654532k free,53976k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 7976 guy 10 -5 144m 65m 13m S 2.7 26.9 0:15.76 srcds_i686 Thanks, Guy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
How do you get 38.3% and 87.1% usage of cpu if you only have one cpu ? I guess that you have HT enable ! - dissable that ! Peter - Original Message - From: Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:09 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen } Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:24 PM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. } To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta } srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within a } few days. The specific changes include: } } - Fixed a server performance problem with queued packets } - Fixed a Counter-Strike: Source flashbang exploit in dxlevel 80 } - Game DLLs export ServerGameClients003 for backwards compatibility for } plugins } - Only allows mat_picmip to be set to 0, 1, or 2 when in multiplayer and } sv_cheats=0 } - Cheat-protected snd_foliage_db_loss. Could be used to turn off ambient } sounds in Counter-Strike: Source } - Fixed a crash when mashing the ~ key on disconnect } - Fixed a crash with certain materials being blocked from reloading due } to sv_pure 0 } - Fixed bug with audio files of different formats overriding the files } in Steam where it would use the original audio file's sample rate/format } information after pure server rules forced it to load a different file } } Jason Crap! I have been running the non-beta, I just updated to the new beta and the CPU usage it 70-99% with 1 player. It seemed normal at first, after about 10 minutes of play it started to lag and quickly became unusable. I get what seems like lag. Take some shots and the ammo usage returns to what it was before I took the shots. Going back in time. I have seen this with 1 map that required a lot of CPU, more than normal. But I am playing breakfloor, it runs fine on a P3-500MHz. I am currently running the server on a P4 Celeron 2.4GHz. I have been using this computer for about 2 weeks without this problem. I have had 10 players without problems. uname -a Linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux The system only has 1 CPU, not sure why it says SMP? top - 00:24:44 up 1:10, 6 users, load average: 9.53, 9.18, 5.60 Tasks: 103 total, 10 running, 93 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 38.3%us, 49.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 11.9%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem:247468k total, 238552k used, 8916k free, 444k buffers Swap: 722884k total,62396k used, 660488k free,39624k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 6264 guy 15 0 147m 66m 13m R 87.1 27.4 12:27.99 srcds_i686 Alfred, this is a different computer. The other computer had some RAID6 problems and I am testing it now. It will return soon. Oh, I still get these messages, but they don't seem to cause any problems: utlmemory.h (314) : Assertion Failed: IsIdxValid(i) I reverted to the non-beta and played the same map for about 10 minutes and no problems. Here it a sample from top: top - 00:54:00 up 1:39, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.27, 1.43 Tasks: 98 total, 1 running, 97 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 1.3%us, 1.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem:247468k total, 243804k used, 3664k free, 2364k buffers Swap: 722884k total,68352k used, 654532k free,53976k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 7976 guy 10 -5 144m 65m 13m S 2.7 26.9 0:15.76 srcds_i686 Thanks, Guy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
Alfred Reynolds wrote: The one before that one actually, the one from 5/21 had a fix for that. - Alfred I don't know if it's the same bug but I have a box running on Fedora 7 (2.6.21 kernel) on a 3.2ghtz Xeon. 32 players, 66 tick. Yesterday it was running at nearly 1000fps and using 50-70%cpu (Along with some really bad spikes that maxed out the cpu and killed the FPS). I just checked it this morning. There are 24 players on and here are the server stats 42.50 71240.83 157725.44 151 2 247.28 24 42.00 71799.45 165362.34 151 2 247.71 24 36.50 80007.18 145946.61 152 2 247.65 24 36.50 79378.77 147030.44 152 2 247.65 24 Why now do I appear to be fps locked at around 250fps with no restarts or reboots since yesterday when I started the test? At that cpu usage I should be running back at nearly 1000fps like yesterday. This is running the latest beta. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update
No, you are looking at top wrong! I only have 1 CPU and no HT. Anyway, what's wrong with HT? Works great with winblows. But never used it with Linux. Ok, back to the 38.3%. Cpu(s): 38.3%us, 49.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 11.9%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st 38.3 is total user time. 49.9 is total system time. 11.9 is total idle time. So, given the above, the system is 88.1% used. 6264 guy 15 0 147m 66m 13m R 87.1 27.4 12:27.99 srcds_i686 As you can see, srcds_i686 is using 87.1% of the system leaving 1% used by whatever else needed it. Assuming my math is correct. Guy } -Original Message- } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Svensk Ljud Ljus Produktion } Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:21 AM } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } How do you get 38.3% and 87.1% usage of cpu if you only have one cpu ? } I guess that you have HT enable ! - dissable that ! } } Peter } } - Original Message - } From: Guy Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:09 AM } Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } } -Original Message- } } From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- } } [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Ruymen } } Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 9:24 PM } } To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] } } Subject: [hlds_linux] Source Engine Beta Update } } } } An update to the Source Engine/Dedicated Server beta is now available. } } To update, run hldsupdatetool or Steam with the command -beta } } srcds0407. If this update goes well, we plan on releasing it within } a } } few days. The specific changes include: } } } } - Fixed a server performance problem with queued packets } } - Fixed a Counter-Strike: Source flashbang exploit in dxlevel 80 } } - Game DLLs export ServerGameClients003 for backwards compatibility } for } } plugins } } - Only allows mat_picmip to be set to 0, 1, or 2 when in multiplayer } and } } sv_cheats=0 } } - Cheat-protected snd_foliage_db_loss. Could be used to turn off } ambient } } sounds in Counter-Strike: Source } } - Fixed a crash when mashing the ~ key on disconnect } } - Fixed a crash with certain materials being blocked from reloading } due } } to sv_pure 0 } } - Fixed bug with audio files of different formats overriding the files } } in Steam where it would use the original audio file's sample } rate/format } } information after pure server rules forced it to load a different file } } } } Jason } } Crap! I have been running the non-beta, I just updated to the new beta } and } the CPU usage it 70-99% with 1 player. It seemed normal at first, after } about 10 minutes of play it started to lag and quickly became unusable. } I } get what seems like lag. Take some shots and the ammo usage returns to } what } it was before I took the shots. Going back in time. I have seen this } with } 1 map that required a lot of CPU, more than normal. But I am playing } breakfloor, it runs fine on a P3-500MHz. I am currently running the } server } on a P4 Celeron 2.4GHz. I have been using this computer for about 2 } weeks } without this problem. I have had 10 players without problems. } } uname -a } Linux ubuntu 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 } GNU/Linux } } The system only has 1 CPU, not sure why it says SMP? } } top - 00:24:44 up 1:10, 6 users, load average: 9.53, 9.18, 5.60 } Tasks: 103 total, 10 running, 93 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie } Cpu(s): 38.3%us, 49.9%sy, 0.0%ni, 11.9%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, } 0.0%st } Mem:247468k total, 238552k used, 8916k free, 444k buffers } Swap: 722884k total,62396k used, 660488k free,39624k cached } } PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND } 6264 guy 15 0 147m 66m 13m R 87.1 27.4 12:27.99 srcds_i686 } } Alfred, this is a different computer. The other computer had some RAID6 } problems and I am testing it now. It will return soon. } } Oh, I still get these messages, but they don't seem to cause any } problems: } utlmemory.h (314) : Assertion Failed: IsIdxValid(i) } } I reverted to the non-beta and played the same map for about 10 minutes } and } no problems. Here it a sample from top: } top - 00:54:00 up 1:39, 4 users, load average: 0.02, 0.27, 1.43 } Tasks: 98 total, 1 running, 97 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie } Cpu(s): 1.3%us, 1.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 97.0%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, } 0.0%st } Mem:247468k total, 243804k used, 3664k free, 2364k buffers } Swap: 722884k total,68352k used, 654532k free,53976k cached } } PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND } 7976 guy 10 -5 144m 65m 13m S 2.7 26.9 0:15.76 srcds_i686 } } Thanks, } Guy
