Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 2 updates in 1 topic
Thank you very much, Bruce. I neglected to mention that there are three “baskets.” Two are Seagate Slims which I rotate for A&B storage at my son’s place. You’ve given me great ideas for rounding out my strategy. Al Poulin > On Aug 20, 2021, at 3:44 AM, imaclist@googlegroups.com wrote: > > imaclist@googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/imaclist/topics> > Google Groups > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> > > Topic digest <> > View all topics > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/imaclist/topics> > Safeguarding Volumes - 2 Updates > <>Safeguarding Volumes > <http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist/t/56464b324889b725?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> > > Al Poulin : Aug 19 04:42PM -0400 > > I would like to reformat an external hard drive at the media level, hopefully > to salvage it for another few years. It contains three CCC volumes that I > want to safeguard. A fourth volume has corrupted files. What is the best > procedure? All volumes are formatted Journaled HFS Plus, NOT APFS. > > As I understand it, Disk Utility First Aid > > I use Carbon Copy Cloner to backup four computers to the external drive as > bootable clones. Each CCC volume resides in its own partition. The volume for > my main computer has corrupted files which have not been resolved by > reformatting that volume singly with Disk Utility Erase and then cloning > anew. I want the clones to remain bootable. > > Can I simply drag each volume to another media, to either my iMac’s internal > drive or another external drive? Would I need to create separate partitions > for each volume? Otherwise, should the volumes be set into disk images? > Bombich (CCC vendor) recommends using disk images “sparingly.” Then, would I > update each disk image in subsequent clones, or would I “Restore” each volume > to permit updating the clones? > > Thanks for any guidance. > > Al Poulin > "Bruce Johnson" : Aug 19 09:02PM > > On Aug 19, 2021, at 1:42 PM, Al Poulin > mailto:alfred.pou...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I would like to reformat an external hard drive at the media level, hopefully > to salvage it for another few years. It contains three CCC volumes that I > want to safeguard. A fourth volume has corrupted files. What is the best > procedure? All volumes are formatted Journaled HFS Plus, NOT APFS. > > As I understand it, Disk Utility First Aid > > I use Carbon Copy Cloner to backup four computers to the external drive as > bootable clones. Each CCC volume resides in its own partition. The volume for > my main computer has corrupted files which have not been resolved by > reformatting that volume singly with Disk Utility Erase and then cloning > anew. I want the clones to remain bootable. > > Having all the volumes on one physical disk is a ‘all your eggs in one > basket’ and that basket is starting to fall apart...file corruption that is > NOT fixed by fixed by reformatting and restoring a volume on a partition is > very often indicative of hardware failure impending. (unless the corrupted > files are ALSO corrupted on your main computer, in which case your backup is > faithfully doing it’s thing.) > > What is cheaper to replace: a hard drive? or your data? That’s always the > most relevant question to ask in these cases. > > > Can I simply drag each volume to another media, to either my iMac’s internal > drive or another external drive? > > I would use CCC to copy each volume from the multi-partition drive to a new > HDD for each one. Ideally more than one copy, and then stored in separate > physical locations. If they’re small volumes, you can use SSD’s..ssd’s are > quite reliable now and if you’re backing up small volumes little ones are > pretty inexpensive. 120 gb ones can be had for around $20) Heck depending on > the size, you might get away with USB sticks… > > For archival purposes SSDs are pretty good. > > Would I need to create separate partitions for each volume? Otherwise, should > the volumes be set into disk images? Bombich (CCC vendor) recommends using > disk images “sparingly.” Then, would I update each disk image in subsequent > clones, or would I “Restore” each volume to permit updating the clones? > > I would not use disk images. > > > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology G
Safeguarding Volumes
I would like to reformat an external hard drive at the media level, hopefully to salvage it for another few years. It contains three CCC volumes that I want to safeguard. A fourth volume has corrupted files. What is the best procedure? All volumes are formatted Journaled HFS Plus, NOT APFS. As I understand it, Disk Utility First Aid I use Carbon Copy Cloner to backup four computers to the external drive as bootable clones. Each CCC volume resides in its own partition. The volume for my main computer has corrupted files which have not been resolved by reformatting that volume singly with Disk Utility Erase and then cloning anew. I want the clones to remain bootable. Can I simply drag each volume to another media, to either my iMac’s internal drive or another external drive? Would I need to create separate partitions for each volume? Otherwise, should the volumes be set into disk images? Bombich (CCC vendor) recommends using disk images “sparingly.” Then, would I update each disk image in subsequent clones, or would I “Restore” each volume to permit updating the clones? Thanks for any guidance. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/imaclist/232AAED5-CD6D-40A0-A8FB-5673C6C71D3E%40gmail.com.
Migration Worked but not Keychain Local Items
Using Setup Assistant, I migrated from my old iMac (24-inch, Early 2009) with El Capitan 10.11.6 to a new iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2017) initially with Sierra and now upgraded to High Sierra 10.13.4. All is well except for Keychain. Most Local Items did not transfer. Is this to be expected? Is there an easy way to pull my old Local Items keychain? Or must I rebuild the list manually? Thank you, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
iMac Internal Microphone
Hello, Folks no longer hear me in FaceTime. On iMac (24-inch, Early 2009), running OS X El Capitan 10.11.6, in Sound preferences, I do not see “Internal Microphone.” Does that mean the microphone is kaput? I see External Microphone and Line In, with nothing plugged in. Thanks, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: need schooling
Hello Eddie, Congratulations on your choice. I am only 82 years old. The Help tab in the top bar on the screen. In the Finder, you can pick on What’s New in Mac OS X and Get to Know your Mac. Decide what parts of the offerings to spend time on first. Each application has Help. Also Search in Help. A local Macintosh user group may have someone ready to spend time with you one-on-one. Beginners’ level class in your local public school system. A seniors group. Your neighbor’s kid (no kidding!). BOOKS: I like the Teach Yourself VISUALLY series. If your new Mac is running Sierra, “Teach Yourself VISUALLY macOS Sierra” is available now. If you have High Sierra, that book will ship from Amazon.com later this month. Another series with good reviews has “MacOS Sierra for Seniors.” Their High Sierra version is also due soon. You should be able to sit a while and browse these books at any Barnes & Noble store. Perhaps your public library has them. Apple Stores quit their own One to One service two years ago. If you are moving over from a Windows PC, Apple has (or used to have) a tutorial on line to help in the transition. Al Poulin On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 7:48:56 PM UTC-5, tzvi0 wrote: > > howdy: brand new know nothing imac fan. > > name ...eddie... > > i've read some postings here and you are all > > light years ahead of me. > > i need a place called kindergarten. > > i'm 86 years old and raring to go. > > where is kindergarten? > > > > -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Running Snow Leopard Server
Bruce, Thank you for your direct answer to my question, plus for the additional info. I’ll try working the Virtual Box route. Al Poulin > On Dec 3, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Bruce Johnson > wrote: > > Not as far as I know. Apple specifically allowed virtualization of SL Server, > provided it was running on an OS X host, so all three VM programs will > prevent you from installing the client SL. > > That said, the major differences between Server and Client were the > additional GUI server tools for managing the various services and the > removal of the simultaneous AFS connection limit in client. > > Aside from not being able to provide more than 10 simultaneous AFS file > service connections, client can run any server service that Server can, you > just have to use traditional Unix command-line tools to manage and configure > them. > > This > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Server#Mac_OS_X_Server_10.6_.28Snow_Leopard_Server.29> > > lists the underlying services, in the ‘Technial Specs’ section of what OSS > tools are used for services in OS X Server. > >> On Dec 3, 2016, at 6:17 AM, Al Poulin wrote: >> >> Thank you Bruce, >> >> And could I install the client SL to run my legacy FMP instead of using the >> SL server? >> >> Thanks >> Al Poulin >> >>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Bruce Johnson >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 2, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Al Poulin wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> >>>> A couple questions. >>>> >>>> >>>> I have an iMac (24-inch, Early 2009) which runs Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8 >>>> on one partition and El Capitan OS X 10. 11.6 on another partition. >>>> >>>> >>>> I have a shrink-wrapped Mac OS X Server V10.6.3 Rev 1. >>>> >>>> >>>> Can I install the Snow Leopard server on the El Capitan partition so that >>>> I can launch and use my legacy version FileMaker Pro 8.0v3? This FMP will >>>> not launch in El Capitan. >>>> >>>> >>> VirtualBox, Parallels And VMWare Fusion will let you install SL Server in a >>> VM under El Capitan. >>> >>> <https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-install-OS-X-Snow-Leopard-on-a-virtual-machine-thats-running-on-a-MacBook-Pro> >>> >>> Here’s directions for VMWare >>> <http://partnerweb.vmware.com/GOSIG/MacOSX_10_6.html> >>> >>> Here’s info for VirtualBox <https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes> >>> >>> This is probably the best way to go. VB is a robust VM system, and it’s >>> free. >>> >>>> Next year, I will buy a new iMac. I believe I cannot install the client >>>> Snow Leopard on it. Will I be able to install the Snow Leopard server? >>>> >>> >>> You’re correct you cannot install Snow Leopard on it; nor can you install >>> SL Server on it, directly. >>> >>> You will be able to install SL Server in VB, Parallels or VMWare Fusion VM's >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bruce Johnson >>> University of Arizona >>> College of Pharmacy >>> Information Technology Group >>> >>> Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Running Snow Leopard Server
Thank you Bruce, And could I install the client SL to run my legacy FMP instead of using the SL server? Thanks Al Poulin > On Dec 2, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Bruce Johnson > wrote: > > >> On Dec 2, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Al Poulin > <mailto:alfred.pou...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> >> A couple questions. >> >> >> I have an iMac (24-inch, Early 2009) which runs Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8 on >> one partition and El Capitan OS X 10. 11.6 on another partition. >> >> >> I have a shrink-wrapped Mac OS X Server V10.6.3 Rev 1. >> >> >> Can I install the Snow Leopard server on the El Capitan partition so that I >> can launch and use my legacy version FileMaker Pro 8.0v3? This FMP will not >> launch in El Capitan. >> >> > VirtualBox, Parallels And VMWare Fusion will let you install SL Server in a > VM under El Capitan. > > <https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-install-OS-X-Snow-Leopard-on-a-virtual-machine-thats-running-on-a-MacBook-Pro > > <https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-install-OS-X-Snow-Leopard-on-a-virtual-machine-thats-running-on-a-MacBook-Pro>> > > Here’s directions for VMWare > <http://partnerweb.vmware.com/GOSIG/MacOSX_10_6.html > <http://partnerweb.vmware.com/GOSIG/MacOSX_10_6.html>> > > Here’s info for VirtualBox <https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes > <https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes>> > > This is probably the best way to go. VB is a robust VM system, and it’s free. > >> Next year, I will buy a new iMac. I believe I cannot install the client Snow >> Leopard on it. Will I be able to install the Snow Leopard server? >> > > You’re correct you cannot install Snow Leopard on it; nor can you install SL > Server on it, directly. > > You will be able to install SL Server in VB, Parallels or VMWare Fusion VM's > > > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group > for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml > <http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml> and our netiquette guide is at > http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > <http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml> > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > <http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist> > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/imaclist/ghx3ViifzMc/unsubscribe > <https://groups.google.com/d/topic/imaclist/ghx3ViifzMc/unsubscribe>. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: 16GB Memory on 27-inch iMac
Thanks, Jim, for the Data Memory System tip. Al Poulin > On Dec 2, 2016, at 4:06 PM, Google wrote: > > >> On Dec 2, 2016, at 12:45 PM, Al Poulin wrote: >> I see two ways to have 16GB of memory on a new, 27-inch iMac, with 1TB >> Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm. >> Other than the difference in cost, which memory configuration is better? >> a) Buy Apple’s standard configuration 8GB (two 4GB) and then add two more >> 4GB in the remaining slots. >> b) Buy Apple’s optional configuration 16GB (two 8GB). >> Thanks, >> Al Poulin > > Your iMac 27” has 4 memory slots. Either configuration you mention will work. > But if you want to add memory at a reasonable price, then purchase a matched > pair of 4 GB sticks from a third-party source (I use Data Memory Systems/DMS) > instead of Apple. Why? Look at Apple’s prices and then at a third-party > vendor’s. Guess which one is lots, lots, lots more expensive? Yep. :^} > > For the record, after I purchased my new iMac last August, which had the > stock 8 GB RAM, I bought two 8 GB sticks from DMS for $75.90, for a total of > 24 GB RAM. Apple wants $200 to increase the stock 8 GB to 16 GB, and a > whopping $600 to go from 8 GB to 32 GB. You can do much, much, much better > than that by buying and installing the RAM yourself. And installation is very > easy. Simply disconnect everything from the iMac, place it face down on a > towel or other soft surface, remove the little door below the fan exhaust > vent (push the little button in the power cable recess), lift the locking > apparatus and install the new pair of RAM sticks. Make sure they’re solidly > in place, then reinstall the door and connect everything you disconnected. If > in doubt, check out ifixit.com or instructions provided by vendors online. > The process even is described in Apple documents. > > Enjoy! > Jim Scott, Eureka, CA > > > > -- > You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group > for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. > The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette > guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml > To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com > To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "iMac Group" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/imaclist/OhdNDGSZ0h0/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
16GB Memory on 27-inch iMac
Hello, I see two ways to have 16GB of memory on a new, 27-inch iMac, with 1TB Serial ATA Drive @ 7200 rpm. Other than the difference in cost, which memory configuration is better? a) Buy Apple’s standard configuration 8GB (two 4GB) and then add two more 4GB in the remaining slots. b) Buy Apple’s optional configuration 16GB (two 8GB). Thanks, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Running Snow Leopard Server
Hello, A couple questions. I have an iMac (24-inch, Early 2009) which runs Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8 on one partition and El Capitan OS X 10. 11.6 on another partition. I have a shrink-wrapped Mac OS X Server V10.6.3 Rev 1. Can I install the Snow Leopard server on the El Capitan partition so that I can launch and use my legacy version FileMaker Pro 8.0v3? This FMP will not launch in El Capitan. Next year, I will buy a new iMac. I believe I cannot install the client Snow Leopard on it. Will I be able to install the Snow Leopard server? Thanks, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Screen Scrambles on Wake
Scott, Valter, Thanks for reminding me. I have used Target Disk Mode via Firewire. I have a “Late 2013” MacBook Pro, 13” Retina, with Thunderbolt. I understand I can connect to the old iMac via a Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter. Perhaps I’d have to put a FireWire extension cable in line. http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/answers/how-to-use-target-disk-mode-to-boot-from-another-macs-hard-drive Would that work? With that $30 adaptor it would also be neat to transfer files back and forth. Al On Friday, August 5, 2016 at 2:00:26 PM UTC-4, Jim Scott wrote: > > Al, > > Yes, my mistake. It’s an Early (note “Late”) 2009 A1225 iMac. That makes > no difference in my comments. Thanks for the “illegal” photo. Yep, that’s a > video card issue. > > As you’re not eager to go inside your iMac, I suggest you ask the local > Mac shop how much they would charge to diagnose your iMac using Apple > diagnostic software (Apple Service Diagnostics 3S132, both OS and EFI test > modes) to confirm the video card issue. If the card is the issue, then the > shop will have to remove the logic board in order to replace the card or > have it repaired. That is the perfect time to clean out all the dust as > well as check/replace the clock battery. If the iMac passes the tests, I > still would have the iMac cleaned out inside. It also wouldn’t hurt to > replace the clock battery (CR2032) as well as pull the RAM sticks, clean > their contacts, then reinstall them. > > I’ve been inside lots of Macs, and I’m always amazed at how much dust is > inside, especially units like yours that are infrequently restarted. > > IIRC, Mavericks is one of the recent versions of OS X that relaunches all > apps that were running before a shutdown or going to sleep. As you note, > the more windows you have open, the more noticeable the problem. You may > have a memory leak that forces the iMac to struggle to relaunch all the > windows correctly, but my money is on a dying video card that has one or > more solder joints that open when warm but are closed when the machine is > cold. > > If you’ve got another Mac and can connect them with a Firewire cable, > Valter’s suggestion that you start your 24” iMac in Firewire Target Disk > Mode and then start the other Mac and select the 24” iMac’s hard drive as > the boot disk by holding down the Option key to launch the Picker is a good > way to isolate the hardware/software issue. You will have to let the two > machines run for a while, most likely. If the video issue occurs on the > “new” Mac’s screen, then it’s software; if it doesn’t, then it’s the 24” > iMac’s hardware. > > Good luck. > > Jim Scott > > > On Aug 5, 2016, at 6:55 AM, Al Poulin > > wrote: > > > > Thank you Valter and Scott, > > > > To clarify a couple things. The iMac is an "Early 2009" Display Port, if > that makes any difference. I meant "multiple windows," actually up to maybe > 9 or 10, plus the 30 Desktop icons. > > This never happens after shutting down and on a fresh start up. I shut > down maybe a couple times a month to clear cobwebs. > > > > I live in Northern Virginia. There is a Mac repair shop nearby in > Maryland that I could call. I'm not keen on the alternative of lifting the > glass screen off the case myself. > > > > Sample photo attached (I think). > > > > Al Poulin > > > > On Thursday, August 4, 2016 at 10:32:52 PM UTC-4, Jim Scott wrote: > > > > > On Aug 4, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Al Poulin wrote: > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Am I looking at a hardware problem or misbehaving software? > > > > > > My workhorse is the last 24 inch iMac that Apple produced. Running > 10.9.5 Mavericks. > > > Early 2009 “Display Port” > > > 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo > > > 4GB RAM > > > 640GB HD > > > SuperDrive > > > NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics with 256MB of shared DDR3 memory > > > > > > When waking from sleep, occasionally the display will scramble for > about 5 or 10 seconds before organizing itself. This seems to happen more > when multiple screens are left open, even as few as three. Or, it may go > black for a few seconds and then settle down. There are 30 to 35 items on > the Desktop. > > > > > > This has been happening for two or three years, but seems to be more > often now. > > > > > > If this is hardware, should I eventualIy expect total failure of the > screen to display properly and prevent access to the system? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Al Poulin > > > >
Screen Scrambles on Wake
Greetings, Am I looking at a hardware problem or misbehaving software? My workhorse is the last 24 inch iMac that Apple produced. Running 10.9.5 Mavericks. Early 2009 “Display Port” 2.66GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4GB RAM 640GB HD SuperDrive NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics with 256MB of shared DDR3 memory When waking from sleep, occasionally the display will scramble for about 5 or 10 seconds before organizing itself. This seems to happen more when multiple screens are left open, even as few as three. Or, it may go black for a few seconds and then settle down. There are 30 to 35 items on the Desktop. This has been happening for two or three years, but seems to be more often now. If this is hardware, should I eventualIy expect total failure of the screen to display properly and prevent access to the system? Thanks, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What do you use your (old) iMac for in 2015?
Robert, Have you looked at SETI@home or Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI)? setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ The thing is that they are down at the moment for maintenance. Al Poulin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What do you use your (old) iMac for in 2015?
Robert, Not that I've ever done it, but have you looked at SETI@home or Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI)? setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ The think is that they are down at the moment for maintenance. Al Poulin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: External Drive for OS 10.4 Tiger
On Thursday, January 15, 2015 at 8:07:49 PM UTC-5, ValterV wrote: > > Il giorno 16/01/15 00.36, "Bruce Johnson" ha scritto: > > >> A user group member wants to buy an external hard drive to back up her > old > >> iMac with 10.4 Tiger. > > > any USB drive should work on any USB-capable Mac. > > Most likely. > > But that iMac better have USB 2.0 ports, otherwise USB 1.1 slowness will > make the drive almost useless. > If the iMac only has USB 1.1 ports, a Firewire drive would be a better > (altough costlier) choice. > > That's a great reminder. Thanks everyone. I'm passing this on to the user group member. Al Poulin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
External Drive for OS 10.4 Tiger
Can’t new external hard drives be formated or otherwise made to work with OS X 10.4 Tiger? I do not understand why not. A user group member wants to buy an external hard drive to back up her old iMac with 10.4 Tiger. It seems that models available at the Apple Store, Best Buy, and other outlets specify OS X 10.5 Leopard and 10.6 Snow Leopard or later. This is with models like Seagate Slim and LaCie Porsche, whether USB bus powered or with power adaptor. I see that macsales.com/OWC has external drives that accommodate everything from Mac OS 8.6 to the latest OS X. Al Poulin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Mac and iOS-Friendly Printer
Hello, Is there a brand that is particularly more Mac-friendly and iOS-friendly than the others? We need to replace an old printer. In past years, we have used Canon, Epson, and HP and I know things have changed. Now, I want to look at several brands for both photo and text work: Canon, HP, Epson, and Brother. I want to avoid something that is too PC-oriented. Thanks, Al Poulin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Is Safari Security Alert Legit?
Thanks guys, as I suspected. I'm glad I checked. And the webpage looks so slick and Applelike. Anyway, before I posted here before supper, I called that phone number and cut the connection after a few fishy minutes. Did not like where that was going. Al Poulin On Friday, November 21, 2014 5:39:19 PM UTC-5, joh...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2014, at 3:31 PM, Al Poulin > > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > Is the phone number below legit? And should I call it for service? > > > > While browsing in Safari, an unwelcome ad from MacKeeper popped up, and > I want nothing to do with it. I thought had I clicked on a button to close > it. But a Safari - Alert note came up with: “Suspicious Activity Might Have > been Detected” and “Major Security Issue.” Plus: > > > > http://online-apple-alerts.com, and phone number 1 855-326-4813 to > “call immediately.” > > > > Thanks, > > Al Poulin > > That’s faker than the worst SyFy Sharknado Versus DinoCroc movie. > > Call it for service only if you feel that your bank account is just too > full. Forget that, call ME if you feel your bank account is just too full! > I’ll actualloffer more help and won’t install Malware ;-) > > -- > Bruce Johnson > University of Arizona > College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > > Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs > > -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Is Safari Security Alert Legit?
Hello, Is the phone number below legit? And should I call it for service? While browsing in Safari, an unwelcome ad from MacKeeper popped up, and I want nothing to do with it. I thought had I clicked on a button to close it. But a Safari - Alert note came up with: “Suspicious Activity Might Have been Detected” and “Major Security Issue.” Plus: http://online-apple-alerts.com, and phone number 1 855-326-4813 to “call immediately.” Thanks, Al Poulin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Time Machine
On Monday, October 28, 2013 6:57:59 PM UTC-4, car...@netins.net wrote: > > I tried to use Time Machine and my backup drive to restore a previous > version of my In Box. Th version appeared, and I clicked Restore. > The only thing that happened was that I could't click on anything. > I had to do Escape. > What did I do wrong? > > > In the absence of better answers, try shutting down and a fresh boot. Occasionally, my TM will not find the external drive for its hourly backup when I have not shut down for several weeks. Have you successfully Restored in the past? Did you use the same procedure this time? Al Poulin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: New Safari Problems
On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:48:34 PM UTC-4, Thunder 1 wrote: > > Greetings everyone. Hope everyone is having a good week. > > Got a few minor problems with Mavericks/Safari 7.0 which started upon my > updating to Mavericks from OS X 10.6.8. For info, basic machine stats: > > 2007 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac, running OS X 10.9 Mavericks and > the new bundled Safari 7.0. RAM is 4 GB. > > The problems: > 1. How can I clear ONLY the Safari cache without having to reset Safari > in-total? > By resetting Safari I lose some of my previous settings, which I want to > retain. > > 2. Right now, the new Safari browser will initially open with my Home Page > (an Excite.com > page), which is good. However, when I click on a link within my Home Page, > instead of > opening that link in a NEW window, the link opens in the original Home > Page window. > This means I have to open Safari again to get back to my Home Page again. > I have my settings set to “New windows open in Home Page”, which they are > not doing. > Any advice there? Anyone else having this problem? > > Other than that, I like the new Mavericks OS so far. I think it’s a great > step forward. > > Bill > Maybe wait for new version of OnyX. http://www.onyxmac.com/ https://www.macupdate.com/app/iphone/11582/onyx Al Poulin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Moving to WordPress
I am dual posting this to the LowEndMac/WordPress page and to the forum in Google Groups since the two presentations are not being merged. I took a quick look and decided not to register into WordPress. Then I logged in with my Google name/password via the URL given in the original announcement I received in the imaclist digest. That gave me the LEM homepage. With no joy trying to find the new forum via the top level buttons, I noticed the obscure mention of WordPress down the page. The WordPress page width takes up up two thirds of my 24 inch iMac screen, and from top to bottom I see a great deal of empty space. There is no e-mail, no digest, and, If i understand the plan, I would have to go individually to four or five or a half dozen fora via the browser to see if there is anything of interest. My mode of operation is to scan each LEM digest, archive to my hard drive any threads or bits of threads that I want which may otherwise disappear in the future as internet service allows to happen, and optionally go to the online forum if I want to join in the thread or to open a new topic. I am not about to archive web pages. I avoid the GoogleGroups presentation as much as possible, and WordPress is worse. Without the digest, I am unlikely to go chasing for things in Safari. Getting notified of follow-up replies via email won't cut it. A goodby would be a shame. Hmm, I see that my LEM thread archive goes back to the powermacs group in year 2000. Al Poulin -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iMac Group" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Mail Inbox Balloons with Multiple Copies
Does anybody have thoughts on the Time Machine vs. Mail angle? Thanks Harry, for your rebuild routine. I'm saving it in case this duplication happens again. For now, the duplicates are gone. Will the Imported mailboxes all wind up in a new "Imported" folder? Will they replace my existing set of a couple dozen folders or will they sit at the bottom of my existing list? If at the bottom, I'd have to somehow manually rearrange things to look like before. By the way, a couple years ago, I fumble-moused a folder or two into chaos. With Time Machine, I restored the entire Mail Folder in my Users>Library. Very Fast. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Mail Inbox Balloons with Multiple Copies
Could Time Machine be messing me up with my email? I have the last 24" iMac, Display Port, March 2009, running Snow Leopard 10.6.8 with Mail 4.6. On October 16 and 25, the Inbox of one of my three accounts became populated with up to six, "unread" copies of emails. These emails had remained in the Inbox or been moved to other folders or into the Trash after reading. Some messages were not duplicated. I use POP mail and keep the window shade at the bottom of the window. The Inbox contents usually amount to about 3/4 of one screen full. With the duplicated messages, the contents amounted to over five screens. On both occasions, I restored the offending Inbox with Time Machine. Time Machine created its own folder in Mail and provided the correct Inbox contents in a new "Recovered Mailboxes" folder. I dragged the contents of the bad Inbox to the Trash and then dragged the contents of the Recovered Mailboxes folder to the now empty Inbox. And all seems well. There is nothing wrong at the Gmail website. The same email account behaves properly on other devices in the house. This morning, with my back to the machines, I heard the Time Capsule working and then go silent. In an instant, I then heard a new message alert. Turning around, I found the duplicate contents in the Inbox. Mail was set to check for new messages every minute. In Console, the All Messages file shows nothing that I can suspect related to the problem. Thanks for any enlightenment. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: (Intel) iMacs reliability
On Oct 12, 3:08 am, ValterV wrote: > Since several of you praised their 24" iMacs, and the 21,5" screen is > too vertically-limited for my need (it's vertically shorter than my > 21" CRT monitor), I've decided the 24" iMac is the perfect choice to > me. > > Any further advice is welcome. My 24" iMac is the last model, Display Port, March 2009. No problems with daily home use for hours at a time. I second the earlier comment about looking at lowendmac.com . Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
On Jul 14, 11:07 am, Dan wrote: > At 2:33 PM -0700 7/12/2012, Al Poulin wrote: > > and what browser is involved? Does the problem occur with other browsers? This is using Safari, updated just a few days ago. I've suggested trying Chrome, which made my teenage granddaughter very happy about a year ago. > > Has she done the basics -- cleared caches, cookies, etc? I've mentioned caches, History, and Activity Monitor, but will have cookies on the list when I copy this thread to her. > Does the machine have any other speed issues not involving the web? Apparently nothing to make her unhappy. > wrt YouTube make sure you're not trying to view the higher definition > versions of the videos. At 1 Mb, one should expect those to be > glitchy. Thanks, I'm passing this on to her. So the 1 MB RAM is rather minimum for some downstreaming. And thanks, Judith for your comments about the add-ons. I doubt they apply, but I'll confirm. Krys - She is using Internet, and the Verizon DSL for this low bandwidth version does not seem to have a cap. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
On Jul 13, 3:01 am, John Hobbs wrote: > On 12 Jul 2012, at 22:33, Al Poulin wrote: > > Download Speed: 1017 kbps (127.1 KB/sec transfer rate) > Upload Speed: 375 kbps (46.9 KB/sec transfer rate) > > Al > These are not dsl speeds. They are more akin to isdn rates. I take it you > were previously able to watch Youtube videos without buffering which would > suggest to me that your dsl speed has slipped. > John Yeah, kind of slow, I know. The Verizon DSL website shows their basic package at "Verizon High Speed Internet .5 to 1 Mbps." Maybe need to boost both the Internet bandwidth and the RAM?? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
On Jul 12, 11:30 pm, Charles Lenington wrote: > On 7/12/12 4:33 PM, Al Poulin wrote: > > This is an iMac "Core 2 Duo" 2.4 20-Inch (Early 2008) with 1 GB RAM > > running OS X 10.5.8 Leopard. > > snip=== > > 1 Gig ram for OS X.5 ? > > How long has she had X.5 on it? This machine came with OS X 10.5.x on it. Leopard had just come out some months before, and Apple finally went to 2 Gig RAM in the next year's model iMac. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Low bandwidth DSL or the Mac?
Hello: Do we blame low bandwidth DSL or the Mac? A member of our Mac user group says her machine is getting slower to websites and has "YouTube videos stopping and restarting all the time." Apparently, there are no other performance problems. This is an iMac "Core 2 Duo" 2.4 20-Inch (Early 2008) with 1 GB RAM running OS X 10.5.8 Leopard. Apple Software Updates have been applied. Internet access is via Verizon DSL. Speed test shows: Last Result: Download Speed: 1017 kbps (127.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 375 kbps (46.9 KB/sec transfer rate) Thanks, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Anti-Virus Software for Mac
In view of the Flashback trojan, is now the time for average home and student users to install an anti-virus package? I notice that there are two free pachages, ClamXav 2 and Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac Home Edition. ClamXav 2 is donationware and the Sophos seems to be a total freebie. Does one have particular advantages over the other? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Problems with Security Update 2012-001
A fellow Mac user group member cautions on taking the update if still using Rosetta Power PC programs with Snow Leopard. He refers to this article: "Latest Snow Leopard security update breaks popular PowerPC apps like Quicken." http://9to5mac.com/2012/02/03/latest-apple-updates-also-messing-with-rosetta-powerpc-apps-like-quicken/ He also claims this: "I know for a fact that if you're using Mac OS X 10.6 and still running MS Office 2004, that you will not be able to load any MS Office 2004 applications like MS Word, Excel, and PowerPoint after you've installed Apple Security Update 2012-001." Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: RealPlayer for Mac, Problems?
On Jan 4, 10:38 am, Patrick Berg wrote: > Hi Al, > > Have you tried VideoLan (VLC) Player? It supports most audio / video > formats: > > http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ Thank you Patrick. I've sent a file for testing to my son who has VLC. Like Bruce, he hasn't used RealPlayer nor seen .ram files in years. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
RealPlayer for Mac, Problems?
I'd like to use RealPlayer files. Are there cautions about using RealPlayer for Mac? Is there any alternative software for .ram files? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Replacing the HD
On Dec 20, 5:21 pm, Bill Spencer wrote: > On Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:51:29 AM UTC-5, Dan wrote: > > > Could be the drive. Just as likely to be the fans running at a > > > higher than normal speed because there's 5 years worth of dust > > bunnies growin in there. > > Just had the thing cleaned out a couple of months back because of what > proved to be improperly-seated memory, so it's probably still OK in that > regard. The whine sound stops as soon as the thing goes to sleep, and > starts up as soon as it awakens. Here is the hint to do a little sleuthing. Hard drive whine should remain fairly constant. Fan whine should change from silent to strong as fan speeds vary. Note the placement of fans and other components in various iMac models, all fairly standard. In the limited sampling of three models with the iMac Core Duo 1.8GHz (late 2006) in the middle, there seem to be three fans in prominence. Do some heavy work with the optical drive, stress the CPU likewise, and listen. Also, a crude stethoscope applied to the back of the machine may help locate the source of the whine. Your machine seems to be the one in the center of this list, the top one being the first "aluminum" and bottom one being preceding G5: http://www.kodawarisan.com/imac_2007_mid/imac_2007_mid_03.html http://www.kodawarisan.com/imac_intel/imac_intel001.html http://www.kodawarisan.com/imacg5_isight/imacg501i.html Question for iMac techs: Could there be more than the three fans visible in the photos? Could one be always on? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Replacing the HD
On Nov 30, 1:32 pm, Bill Spencer wrote: > Hi there: The 1.83ghz machine below is five years old (the first of the > late-2006 core 2 duo machines) and I'm beginning to notice a minor whine > sound when it's running. I assume this is the (original 160gb) HD > demonstrating some wear, so in order to avoid a headache later on > I'm checking into replacement options. Whine could possibly be from one of the several fans. Does whine go away instantly upon putting the screen to sleep? Fan sound may continue for a bit. So my questions are: > > 1. Is this replacement something I can do myself or would it be better > to pay someone to do so? The ifixit site has a guide but it's marked as > "moderate" for difficulty, so I'm glad to hear other opinions on the task. More and more of us will be facing this problem. Understand there are tool kits available to help handle the glass. > 2. The drive type is 160 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA drive...so will any > drive with these specs work? Or are there other constraints I need to > consider, e.g. specified as Mac-compatible? (I'd like to at > least double the capacity if my pretty limited budget can stand it.) > 3. Are there manufacturers I should seek our or avoid? I've always heard > good things about Seagate and Western Digital but beyond that I'm > in the dark. There have been two extensive threads about hard drives by similar titles: "External hard drive vs. online back up sites". One branched off the other: http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/browse_thread/thread/983316272ddffeb http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/browse_thread/thread/f3cd455d079173c2 It seems best to concentrate on Seagate and Hitachi, skip Western Digital. > 4. About what might I expect to have to pay if I have someone else do > the installation? > 5. Anything else I should keep in mind? Good Luck, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Credit Card Security Not Visible
On Oct 6, 9:23 pm, Beverly Woods wrote: > > Al, I went to the site you mentioned, and like many other websites, the > security stuff comes in when you go towards the checkout. > > So although you enter at > > http://www.tracfone.com/ > > when you put in your shipping and billing info and make your purchase > you are in a secure zone: > > https://www.tracfone-orders.com/blahblah/ Thank you Beverly. Indeed, I now trust the web site. While messing around in Safari Show All History, I found several lines with "https," although I did not see that security indicator in real time. It appears that security kicks in when the URL includes "direct/ controller.block. " So I made my transaction. Then, in a second round of email where I mentioned specific absence of "https" and padlock, the response included this: "TracFone Wireless assures our customer that we have secure transactions online." Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Credit Card Security Not Visible
Is there technology whereby vendors provide security on credit card checkout transactions with no "https" or padlock appearing on the browser window, whether Safari or Firefox? Would they be negotiating digital certificates behind the scenes with no visible evidence of that? Example is cell phone vendor TracFone. http://www.tracfone.com/ In answer to my query about their policy, TracFone claims they go "to great lengths to implement technology and security features to safeguard the privacy of your customer identifiable information from unauthorized access or improper use…." Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Run Time Machine at Shut Down
On Sep 15, 3:41 pm, Ashgrove wrote: > Al, > > Personally, I gave up on Time Machine a long time ago. It was nothing > but trouble. Perhaps most of its old kinks have been already ironed by > now, but I see from your posts that it's still buggy --three OS's > later. Hi Felix: This is not about fixing bugs; it's about enhancements. I love Time Machine. I am not an early adopter and did not use Time Machine until I picked up an early model Time Capsule on close-out. This saved my bacon several times, within minutes of stupid mistakes. I use CCC weekly to a separate drive. I do not use a third-party TM scheduler simply because the ones I know about do not have a feature I would use. Al -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Run Time Machine at Shut Down
I am looking for a Time Machine scheduler which can run a backup upon Shut Down and upon putting the Mac to sleep from the Apple menu. Does such a thing exist? It appears that neither TimeMachineEditor nor TimeMachineScheduler can do this. Many Thanks, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Time Machine Wakes iMac
With OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard, Time Machine does not run hourly when I put the iMac to sleep from the Apple menu. But Time Machine runs hourly whenever I allow my iMac to put itself to sleep, say for the night, simply contributing to the wear on the external hard drive. Is there a way to correct this? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: OS 9.2.2 Install on iMac 700MHz G4
On Mar 30, 10:16 am, Hokie76 wrote: > I recently got an iMac 700 MHz G4 with OS 10.4 installed. I need to > install 9.2.2 in order to run in the Classic mode. Where can I get > install discs or downloads of 9.2.2? Thanks. You might consider looking for a retail OS 10.4 disk set which should include OS 9. That would cover your currently installed OS with a license and provide the Classic mode as well. At least, my gray non- retail OS 10.4.2 disk set came with OS 9.2 for my G4 iBook. But that did not give me a separate OS 9.2 boot partition. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: TechTool Deluxe Froze on Restart
On Feb 20, 1:50 pm, Walter Sheluk wrote: > However since i don't have a Psychoceramic Emeritus designation i would > not know what to google about when my external firewire drives fails to > mount so i just reach into my toolbox and use DiskWarrior 4 and/or > TechToolPro 5. > > DiskWarrior ( DiskExpress ) has been in my tool box since the days of > Mac OS 7.5 and has always save the day for me. This comment impelled me to google "Psychoceramic," leading to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_S._Carberry and then this Nobel citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ig_Nobel_Prize Heh, heh, what a crock! And thanks for the onward discussion. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: TechTool Deluxe Froze on Restart
On Feb 18, 3:15 pm, Dan wrote: > At 10:52 AM -0500 2/17/2011, Al Poulin wrote: > > >24" iMac with Snow Leopard, used AppleCare's TechTook Deluxe 3.1.3 > >on bootable DVD to run hardware checks. > > Why? What exactly was wrong with the computer that you felt the need > to do this? Nothing wrong. I was just curious to see if TechTool Deluxe would work. > > >What happened? Is there a more graceful way to restart to the hard drive? > > Sounds like that TechTool disc is foo? Could be. I'll burn another DVD and see what happens. > > I'm not a big fan of TechTool, so (Not to disparage the > utility; I've just never had it find or tell me anything I didn't > already know from other obvious symptoms). But then, TechTool should be useful for those of us who are less technically initiated. Thanks, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
TechTool Deluxe Froze on Restart
On 24" iMac with Snow Leopard, used AppleCare's TechTook Deluxe 3.1.3 on bootable DVD to run hardware checks. Upon finishing and finding everything normal (skipped surface scan), the Finder menu's options did nothing. System Preferences did not open. Used the TTDlx Restart button and that gave me the rainbow pinwheel. Took my shower for bed. Returned to iMac. Forced shutdown with long press of on/off button. Startup with Option key gave me the hard drive and the Optical disk as choices. Picked the hard drive and, after a while, things were back to normal. On a second attempt at using TTDlx, did not see its Restart button, but the Finder Quit command led to another Quit command and then another readiness to test. What happened? Is there a more graceful way to restart to the hard drive? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
OT: How to make a solid Mac backup plan
This article by Christopher Breen at Macworld is the most comprehensive I have seen in a long time. Also, some of the add-on comments are excellent, including the idea of testing the backups. http://www.macworld.com/article/156601/2011/01/what_how_backup.html?lsrc=nl_mwweek_h_cbstories Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Suucessfully upgraded emac to Leopard, but "mail" will not work?
On Dec 22, 6:21 pm, vinman wrote: > I managed to buy a copy of Leopard, inserted 1gb of memory and have > got my emac functioning nicely with it but seem to have a problem with > the mail client. Seems not to have recognised the smtp details > although they seem correct in "connection doctor". any advice very > welcome. i have done a further software update also to incorporate all > the most recent non intel updates. > thanks John C I do not know if I can help, but somebody here might be able to if you provide more details. Are you attempting to use the Apple Mail client or something else? If SMTP does not work, that means you cannot receive. But can you "send" e-mails? First thing -- Are you giving the initial connection process enough time? I mean lots and lots of time! Maybe even 10 minutes or so. As I recall, when I upgraded from Panther to Leopard (no Tiger in between), Leopard's Apple Mail was working a long time with the ISP for authentication with each of my two accounts. It was driving me nuts! After the first connection, things worked very well. Check your ISP for their authentication requirements and any coaching they can give you to connect with Leopard. Some ISPs are excellent in helping out, even to detailed instructions at their web site or by phone. Other ISPs??? Did this computer work with e-mail before the upgrade? If yes, and you have stored old e-mails in mailboxes, do not delete the account in your client, unless you back it up on another media. If you delete the old account, you will lose access to the old mail. Before the Leopard upgrade, what version of OS 9 or OS X were you using? What mail client? After the upgrade, can you access your old e-mail? Can you access your e-mail account at the ISP via their web mail? Does sending and receiving work that way? You can try a test with a new e- mail account at the ISP and create a corresponding new account in your mail client. If the test account works with new name and password, then you know the system is working. Before the upgrade, did you copy by hand all the mail client account settings and use the same exact settings after the upgrade? If this does not help, please give us more of your troubleshooting details. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Ideas for upgrading?
On Dec 21, 4:50 pm, Dan wrote: > At 10:39 AM -0800 12/21/2010, Bill Spencer wrote: > > >an unexpected Christmas present of $100, and before it burns too big a > >hole in my pocket I'd like to solicit suggestions > > An external HD for backups & pay for some shareware. > > Or take your sweetie out for a nice dinner. Dan has the winner. Get the external HD, clone both your machines at least every week, and offer to clone your sweetie's machine too. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac Very Warm But Not Running
On Dec 16, 7:04 pm, Clark Martin wrote: > > It sounds like a power supply failure (or other power related circuitry.) So the power supply remains energized by AC power after shutdown as long as the iMac is plugged in? True? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
iMac Very Warm But Not Running
The iMac is now working normally, but I'd like to know if it is on the edge of permanent failure. This is the 20", 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo (Mid 2007) machine, the first "aluminum" model, with original hardware, and running Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.4. In the latter part of Dec 14, my wife said that her iMac "would not start up" when pressing the start up button. There was no bong and no activity on the screen. When I checked it on the morning of Dec 15, it would not start up. In a room where the temperature is 63° F/14°C, I found the entire unit to be unusually warm. Facing the screen and reaching around the back, the warmest area was in the upper left. With a stethoscope, I verified that fans and hard drive were not running. Turning off the power and on again at the UPS several times produced no change. Turned off the UPS power for about five hours. With the iMac now cold in the late afternoon, it did a normal startup. Checking the Console Logs for both the Admin and the User accounts, I see nothing to show why the iMac was warm but not running. Both "All Messages" logs show a shutdown by user about 8:15 PM on Dec 13, and then a startup about 7:48 AM and shutdown by user about 2 1/2 minutes later on Dec 14. These logs show nothing until I started it up after allowing it to cool down on Dec 15. Is there such a thing as a partial startup with no bong from not pressing the button hard enough? Can the machine shut down only partially from the Apple Menu command? Should I look at other logs in Console? I have excerpts of both logs, going from the shutdown on the 13th to the startup on the 15th, in a 37 KB folder, ready to send if anybody would like to look at them. Thank you, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Looking at Activity monitor on a quad-core...
Hello Bruce: Cannot see the page from your link. On Dec 15, 4:05 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Somewhat geeky question here... > > I've got menu meters on my new quad iMac and in an enormously refreshing > change from my old iMac, I'm used to seeing the CPU bars in the menu show up > as almost all white, instead of pegged in red and green all the time. > > <http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/mm.png> Not Found The requested URL /miscjunk/mm.png was not found on this server. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
On Nov 11, 6:56 pm, Walter Sheluk wrote: > I downloaded the Combo 10.6.5 from apple and from version tracker but > both will not mount. > > I downloaded several other .dmg files as a test and they all mount. > > Any one else with that problem with the Apple Combo today ? > > How do get it to mount ? On second thought, instead of messing around with Safe Mode, I'll just wait a week or two for Apple to fix the package and try then. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Combo 10.6.5 download will not mount
On Nov 11, 6:56 pm, Walter Sheluk wrote: > I downloaded the Combo 10.6.5 from apple and from version tracker but > both will not mount. > > I downloaded several other .dmg files as a test and they all mount. > > Any one else with that problem with the Apple Combo today ? > > How do get it to mount ? Found nothing in Apple's Support pages, but there is mention of using Safe Mode here: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20022511-263.html?tag=mncol;title Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 30, 12:48 am, Mystic Prowler wrote: > Does anyone have use for really old macs these days? I do. I know this is > off of topic, but oh well. Maybe to read old, old files and screen shots from the '90s that modern software cannot convert or even to see and read. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: RAM upgrade for intel
On Oct 28, 12:32 pm, Jonathan wrote: > Hi chaps > > I am pondering an upgrade of my mid 2010 27" i5. It has the standard > 4gb (2X2) ddr3 1333 sodimm. > > I need to be certain of whether I am restricted by dual channelling. > Do I need to buy in pairs? Or can I leave my 2X2gb and add a single > 4gb stick? For this, I would also check with OWC (macsales.com) online and maybe by phone and with crucial.com online. In some cases, a machine that does not require matched pairs will deliver higher performance with matched pairs, but for most users in real life, that increase is not really noticeable. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
iTunes Nuisance
What could possibly cause the iTunes application to launch itself three times in 4 or 5 minutes this afternoon, and do it again repeatedly at random intervals? What could cause it to launch itself when this iMac is in sleep? iTunes is opening with a screen for downloading music, importing CDs, and watching tutorials, all of which I do not care to do. Is Apple playing games with this machine? Running OS X 10.6.4 on iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with iTunes 10.0. Several weeks ago, this random launching also happened when I was running the latest version of iTunes 9. The only way I used iTunes 9 is to occasionally listen to Radio. I have not used iTunes 10. Other Apple Stuff in the House: Old style Apple TV, wife's MacBook, and wife's old style iPod Touch, all using WiFi on Apple Express 802.11g and syncing her iTunes. My iMac is set for WiFi on Time Capsule 802.11n, but AirPort is turned off in favor of Ethernet to the Time Capsule. Apple Express and Time Capsule are ethernetted to a Verizon FiOS box whose WiFi is turned off. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: How Goes SiteSucker?
On Sep 12, 4:07 pm, Emma wrote: > I really like SiteSucker. It is really fast...and you can set it to > just get what you want and go only so "deep". I am a teacher who has > iffy internet at school sometimes, so SSucker is a life saver. I used > the dmg. I use the same machine you do. > Might be my imagination but it downloads way faster than my normal ftp > connection does to sites I control! Thanks. I played with SiteSucker over the weekend after downloading the .dmg. It promises to be useful for me, but the first website I attempted seemed set to lock out any copying. I'll pass details off- list to you for any comment you may have. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: How Goes SiteSucker?
On Sep 8, 5:02 pm, Al Poulin wrote: > In looking for tools to download websites including multiple pages, such as a > main page with links to the site's contents, it seems that SiteSucker for Mac > OS X is more in use than other tools.http://www.sitesucker.us/mac.html > > Any problems? Cautions? Alternatives for the job? Better to download the > disk image or the ZIP Archive? > > Using OS X 10.6.4 on iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. > > Thanks, > Al Poulin Has anyone ever used SiteSucker? How did it go? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: How Goes SiteSucker?
On Sep 8, 6:51 pm, T-n-T wrote: > If you are comfortable using terminal try wget. Here is a good > starter article on getting it to work.http://lifehacker.com/161202/ > geek-to-live--mastering-wget Thanks Todd, but I just peeked at that website. That bit of terminal is way over my head. I need a more friendly interface. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
How Goes SiteSucker?
In looking for tools to download websites including multiple pages, such as a main page with links to the site's contents, it seems that SiteSucker for Mac OS X is more in use than other tools. http://www.sitesucker.us/mac.html Any problems? Cautions? Alternatives for the job? Better to download the disk image or the ZIP Archive? Using OS X 10.6.4 on iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo. Thanks, Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: How do you know if there is a virus in your mac and how to treat it ? Please help !
On Sep 8, 8:16 am, Jack Suggs wrote: > Correction: That's "Mac Antivirus"... although for some guys, "Man > Antivirus" might be a good thing to have. > > > > On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Jack Suggs wrote: > > Wallace, Sorry you didn't get a straight answer. What operating system are > > you using? > > > FYI, two searches, one for Mac Virus, the other for Man Antivirus... > > >http://www.google.com/search?q=virus%20for%20mac&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 > > >http://www.google.com/search?q=mac%20antivirus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 Hmmm, did I see $$$ signs and snakeoil in the top hits? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: QS G4 replacing original factory hard drive.. How and Tips please.
On Aug 29, 7:20 pm, Ashgrove wrote: > > A reasonable investment is getting a SATA PCI card so you can use SATA > drives. They're cheaper and easier to get, and if/when the QS croaks, > you'll be able to use them in a newer Mac. Nice thought for the future. Also thinking about the future, you may end up with a drive larger than 120GB, now hard to find. I like dealing with OWC, http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/internal_storage/hard_drives_and_SSD where you see offerings for both SATA and IDE interfaces. Their telephone sales folks can provide excellent recommendations for your QS. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: September 2006 iMac Core 2 Duo model RAM: 3GB or 4GB?
On Aug 19, 5:04 pm, Walter Sheluk wrote: > I've done the add this RAM and add this Hard drive to many of my Mac's > only to discover in the end all that money spent just left me with an > old and getting older Mac never really up to snuff. Sorry to chime in days late at the end of this thread. My Aug 22 "daily" digest just caught up with Aug 19. I do not recall any mention of Activity Monitor. But before investing money and effort, anyone concerned about use of RAM should determine whether Activity Monitor shows the sum of Free and Inactive memory getting close to nothing. There have been several excellent threads on this subject: 'Do I Need More Memory?' app & Leopard http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/browse_thread/thread/c5ff641e7d59c71e?hl=en and Memory Allocation http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list/browse_thread/thread/b818cdca75e3f19b?hl=en Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Putting TV Shows on Hard Drive/DVD
On Jun 15, 10:01 pm, Myles MacVane wrote: > I trust El Gato. Go to the products page athttp://www.elgato.com > > Myles MacVane Thanks, but I am looking for a solution off the internet, not TV. Earlier this year, when I looked at Elgato, they had nothing to work with Verizon FiOS TV. I do have the FiOS DVR, but it cannot support a direct connection to any backup device. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Putting TV Shows on Hard Drive/DVD
With Snow Leopard on an iMac 2.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, and with Safari 4 or 5, how can I capture a TV show or video clips that are viewable on the Internet? I would like to store selected videos on the hard drive and on CD/DVD. What third party software would I need? If this is possible to do, is it legal? Here are a couple examples. This show is available online until mid-September. http://www.nbc.com/who-do-you-think-you-are/video/brooke-shields/1216049/ NBC Direct is a Beta release for PC users, but not Mac OS X or Linux. The DRM allows download shows for unlimited viewing on the machine to which downloaded until expiration of a temporary license, and backup to another media or machine is not possible. But is there a better Mac OS X solution other than Boot Camp? At http://www.history.com/shows , a few shows such as Pawn Stars and Ice Road Truckers are available for download in iTunes. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: External Drive
On Jun 1, 2:59 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > It goes : > > Major.Major minor.minor.subminor (if you have that.) Each step is a whole > integer. > > Major is for truly significant changes: OS 7, OS 8, OS 9, OS 10 > > Major minor is for significant changes within the major. 10.2, 10.4, 10.5, > etc. > > Apple has mostly, since OS 7.6, sold each of these as a paid upgrade. A few > were updates, like 8.0-8.1, 9.0-9.2.2 and 10.0-10.1, but 8.1 to 8.6 was paid, > and every OSX version since 10.2 was paid. > > Minor are the updates within a paid update, they're free (at least Apple's > are). 10.4.1-10.4.11 Eleven separate updates were shipped for 10.4 before > 10.5 was released. To put a finer point on this, Apple calls the versions one pays for, such as 10.2, 10.6 "upgrades." The free changes denoted with the second decimal such as 10.6.2 are "updates." Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?
On Apr 24, 9:30 pm, cad wrote: > > Would there be anything wrong with a single Hard Drive, partitioned > between TM, and Bootable backup > [maybe even a 'few' bootable partitions' for several choices.] That is a very good start with good habits. But an advantage of separating the bootable backup from the TM backup is that when one of those external drives fails, you still have the other one available. Also, it is best to connect the bootable backup drive to the computer ONLY when actually doing the backup or a recovery. Disconnect it from both the machine and AC power when it is not running. I clone three or four Macs to separate, bootable partitions on a drive about once a week. Some folks do it more frequently. Some folks keep two bootable backup drives, having one off-site in case of calamity at home base. By its nature, a TM external drive is connected to both the computer and AC power at all times, making it vulnerable to lightning and power hits. I have all four Macs running TM to a Time Capsule. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?
On Apr 23, 1:15 pm, John Niven wrote: > Wow! I just looked at iFixit.com and it looks as complicated as a PowerBook > to replace the harddrive!. > > I think I'm just going to leave it alone (at least until it fails). > I can tackle this level of complexity but it looks like ther is plenty of > opportunity to make things worst =( not better. > > I think this leans me towards a backup onto external hard drive, clean > install, and then copy over what she needs now. Excellent leaning. Consider making that external drive a bootable clone with Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper. Alternatively, use the external drive with Time Machine. Or take the best of both worlds by getting two external drives, one for cloning and the other for Time Machine. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard?
On Apr 20, 5:25 pm, John Niven wrote: > My wife has a 2006 17" Intel iMac, which came with, and still has, Tiger > (with all the updates). Recently she came across a program that required at > least Leopard. So I'm thinking of upgrading her. > > Can I go from Tiger to Snow Leopard directly? Do I just need the retail > upgrade box? Anything to watch out for? Yes and yes. Watch out for your own data. You should do a complete backup of anything you do not want to risk losing. Also, verify that you meet the minimum requirements for memory and disk space. Some iMacs of that vintage came with half the required RAM. But moving to Snow Leopard has been the easiest and slickest upgrade of Apple's OS yet. To be legal with Apple licensing, you should buy the full software suite, "Box Set," which includes iWork and iLIfe. Your wife will be glad you did. It is technically possible to install the cheap version of Snow Leopard, but that license is legal if you already have Leopard on the machine. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Legality of selling restore disks?
On Apr 7, 10:22 pm, Christian Wacker wrote: > We have decided to try parting out the eMacs (we've got 23 of them > with good logic boards... that's gotta be worth something somewhere) > and discoevered via eBay that the restore CD sets run between $75 and > $100. > We are wondering how legal it is to sell the restore disks, since > we're parting out the entire system now. Read the standard Apple license agreement. But this seems legal to me, since the computers to which they belong will not longer exist. One can assume that the software is not loaded on any other computer. Years ago, I bought two "eMac Applications" from a Mac parts dealer just to load two copies of AppleWorks 6.2.4 on newer Macs. I am still using those licenses as I have migrated to two Intel iMacs. Of course I removed AW from the older machines before letting them go. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist To unsubscribe, reply using "remove me" as the subject.
Re: So how much memory does it take?
On Mar 20, 9:37 pm, Bill Spencer wrote: > Oops, sorry, I meant the older one, meaning the 1.83 ghz machine. I > had always understood that it can go to 2G, which is what Apple says, > but got thrown today when I saw LEM give both 3 and 4 on different > pages. And I have now downloaded MacTracker as Harry suggested, for > another perspective. So are you implying that it's possible to put in > more than Apple's stated maximum? How can that be? It occasionally happens, not always. Apple designs its machine with RAM that is available at the time. In a year or so, the RAM manufacturers improve their technology, and they sell higher capacity RAM. The newer RAM is usually, not always, backward compatible into Apple's original design. I cannot address the technical details of how this happens. So I would depend on Crucial and OWC to give accurate, up to date info. After all, they have money back policies. Al Pouln -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: So how much memory does it take?
On Mar 19, 9:48 pm, William Spencer wrote: > Hi there: I'm getting conflicting information about how far I can expand the > RAM in the earlier of the two machines listed below. Some sources say 2G, > some say 3G, some say 4G. LEM says both 3 and 4 on different pages. Who's > right? Thanks! > > *** > > Bill Spencer in Maryland > IMac Core Duo 2.4 ghz/1 g RAM/Snow Leopard > IMac Core Duo 1.83 ghz/1 g RAM/Snow Leopard Not to be flip, but do you mean the first in the list of two or the first model built? In any case, I'd look at the Apple specs on their web site. That reflects the status of available RAM at the time of design. I'd also look at what both Crucial, and Macsales (OWC) and maybe other reputable vendors are willing to sell for the maximum. That could more than the Apple spec. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.
Re: Intel iMacs - Best deals?
On Mar 16, 12:09 pm, Elliott Price wrote: > My dad is wanting to upgrade to an Intel Mac, in order to run certain apps, > and to run Windows. One of the early Intel iMacs would probably be best, but > right now money is a big consideration. Does anyone have any tips, or > suggestions on were to find the best deals? Thanks, Look under "Recent Deals" at: http://www.lowendmac.com/ Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Is Time Machine Bullet Proof Yet?
On Mar 11, 10:22 pm, Dan wrote: > At 3:03 PM -0500 3/10/2010, Al Poulin wrote: > > >Here, it has been fine with a Time Capsule supporting four Macs in > >Leopard and Snow Leopard. > > And you just had to announce that to the world, to see if you could > get Murphy's attention. > > g'luck. Thank you Dan, and Bruce too, for the feedback. I'll probably check in again some time after the next OS X comes out. Actually, I asked because the topic came up in the ReunionTalk forum. For the good folks there, Time Machine seems to have improved over time. http://www.reuniontalk.com/showthread.php?t=5621 Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Is Time Machine Bullet Proof Yet?
Any disasters in the past year? There are many people happy with Time Machine, and it seems to have become more stable to run as designed in the past year. True? Here, it has been fine with a Time Capsule supporting four Macs in Leopard and Snow Leopard. Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: OT: Apple in Daily Comics
On Jan 26, 8:14 am, Al Poulin wrote: > Beginning yesterday, (Monday), The Washington Post has two comic strips > featuring Apple's announcement scheduled Wednesday the 27th. Doonesbury is > online. Regrettably, Prickly City is > not.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artsandliving/comics/ > > Al Poulin Oops: Prickly City is there. But the URL is misbehaving in mysterious ways. http://comics.com/prickly_city/ And here is Doonesbury direct: http://www.uclick.com/client/wpc/db/ Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
OT: Apple in Daily Comics
Beginning yesterday, (Monday), The Washington Post has two comic strips featuring Apple's announcement scheduled Wednesday the 27th. Doonesbury is online. Regrettably, Prickly City is not. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artsandliving/comics/ Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Ejecting Volumes
With multiple volumes on a 1TB external hard drive, is there a graceful way to hide some, but not all, of their icons from both the Desktop and the Sidebar other than by manually ejecting them singly? Al Poulin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Disable Guest Accounts in Snow Leopard
If someone had a Guest Account enabled in Leopard and updated to Snow Leopard, it may be best to disable that Guest Account until Apple fixes a bug that can trash ALL user data. http://www.macworld.com/article/143286/2009/10/sldataloss.html Apple says the problem is extremely rare. But one can google "snow leopard guest accounts" for more info. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard won't play with my printer...
Bill: First of all, it seems that your older Intel iMac came with Tiger 10.4.4 and therefore may not boot from Panther. I'm not sure about that. And your later Intel iMac would have come with a later OS X. Presumably, your friend's G4 eMac does not have OS 9 installed, the OS 9 drivers are not installed, and whatever version of OS X is on it does not have Classic on board. If it is running Panther or Tiger, your friend's original installer disk(s) should have Classic available. But you may not wish to impact that machine's software configuration, unless the owner is kind of techie and offers to do so. As I mentioned in another list on this topic, you could try to "Find someone locally with an Mac running O9 or Classic." If available, that would be the easiest thing to do. But your next best alternative is indeed something like what you propose here. You may need to use a second external FW drive if you do not want to erase your backup files on the drive at hand. The likely issue is that your current backup drive may be using the GUID file system if you set it up with an Intel Mac. The G4 eMac will boot only from a drive formatted with the APM (Apple Partition Map) and not from a drive with the GUID Partition Table (GPT). With Leopard (and likely Snow Leopard), you can find a setting in Disk Utility to format in APM. On Oct 2, 1:03 pm, Bill Spencer wrote: > After doing as much research as I have time for I'm thinking that I > can get the printer's IP address if I 1) install OS 9 and Panther on > the external FW drive I use for backups (I have disc images of 9 and > its updates, and install discs for Panther), 2) boot from there in > Panther (since I understand that I can't boot either iMac in 9 since > they're Intel machines), 3) launch Classic, and then 4) fire up the > Apple Printer Utility (or whatever it's called). That drive's about > 85% empty right now so space isn't an issue, but I'm wondering about a > couple of things: > > A) Can I partition this drive without deleting what's already there? Yes you can with Snow Leopard. As always, you should back it up first, because there is always the risk of destroying access to the onboard files. But if already formatted with GUID, that stops the show. > > B) Would I need separate partitions for OS 9 and Panther? No. > > C) Is creating OS partition(s) even necessary? I probably wouldn't > keep the OS stuff there long-term since I have no need for Classic, > let alone 9, except for this (I hope) one-time issue. No. But if that drive is GUID, it will not boot the G4. > > D) Would there be any reason to install OS 9 alone, then cart the > drive and the printer to a friend's house who has a G4 eMac which > could run 9 by itself? I'd rather not have to horse the stuff around > but if the main strategy is flawed I can certainly do so. If you format a drive in APM, there is no reason to install Panther. I propose you bring an external drive to the G4, format it in APM, install OS 9, and then do your printer business. > > E) Can I install 9 from the images or would I have to burn discs and > install from those? This is analogous to installing from a .dmg download. You should be able to mount the disk image and install the software. You should be able to do all this without impacting the friend's G4 configuration except possibly for temporary use of his Desktop. I'm not sure that installing OS 9 directly from the disk(s) to the external drive will work. You may have to first copy the image to the Desktop. > > If there's anything I'm missing or forgetting, please give me a whack > on the head. As always my thanks in advance! Barring any clarifying comments from other folks on this list, any remaining questions involving the G4 would be best taken up on the lowendmac G-List (G3-5 List). You may have lost some of this list's audience with the "printer" theme of the original topic. Good Luck, Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iMac borked?
On Sep 24, 12:30 am, Elliott Price wrote: > Oooh that does sound bad. In my experience, it's best to re-install if > an install crashes. You can run an Archive and Install, so that your > user settings and stuff stays the same, but it reinstalls the system. > That'll fix the problems. Also, make sure you disconnect all third party USB devices, other peripherals not needed to execute the install. Quit all applications. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard won't play with my printer...
On Sep 13, 1:13 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Sep 13, 2009, at 9:41 AM, Bill Spencer wrote: > The printer *itself* will work as a print server. It has an ethernet > port and connects directly to the network; and I KNOW they support lpd > (The manual has detailed directions on using it with Unix clients), so > no Appletalk is needed. > > Put it on the network, give it a fixed IP address, and just point > your Macs to it to print. Also along this ethernet and IP address line, this article has instructions that may help. http://www.macworld.com/article/142631/2009/09/snowleopard_printing.html?lsrc=nl_mwweek_h_cbstories Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Snow Leopard won't play with my printer...
On Sep 11, 9:33 pm, Bill Spencer wrote: > > Never mind, I just found out about USB-to-parallel cables, so that > should do the trick...right? Bill That may put you part way there. Cables deal with hardware issues. It seems your problem is also with the lack of an updated software driver. I googled "laserwriter Snow Leopard." Find your printer here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3669#apple Also, check out the other hits on the same google search. Hope this helps. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Running OS X 10.5
On Sep 10, 12:16 am, Jarett DeAngelis wrote: > Yeah, I'm not buyin' it. > > You need 1GB for Tiger and 2GB for Leopard if you want to do anything > useful with them. > On Sep 9, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Dan wrote: > > Leopard runs just fine on anything over 512 MB. Additional memory > > needs depend on the mix of applications you like to run. What Dan just said. I do useful things on my G4 iBook 1.33 GHz with 512 MB. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Getting Mail to work with two machines
On Sep 6, 10:10 pm, Bill Spencer wrote: > > Well, I have no agenda regarding POP3 one way or the other, and no > choice that I know of unless I switch email providers. And the > outgoing messages would be a very nice thing to have...but I have this > notion that there's a way to get Mail to load everything from a remote > machine, something about telling it to go to the library of the other > machine rather than using the local library. Oh well, this is not a > big deal, just a convenience I was hoping to have. I'll just set them > up as you suggest. Thanks! Bill ChronoSync Mac will sync mail between any two machines. Some people use it happily. I do not know whether it is a commercial product or share/free ware. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
What OCR for Intel iMac?
What OCR software packages are there which run well on OS X 10.5 Leopard? Any favorites? I've seen references to Omnipage Pro X for Macintosh and Readiris as independent packages, and even OCR capability in Vuescan and Adobe Reader. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS9.x on G4 imacs?
On Jul 28, 5:42 am, williamd wrote: > I read somewhere that certain models of G4 imacs can boot into os9 as > well as X. But does this also mean they can use OS 9 without > installing X? Thanks for any info. Yes, some will boot OS 9.2.2. See here for which models. http://www.lowendmac.com/imacs/index.shtml Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Networking issues with G4 imac
On Jul 29, 5:00 pm, williamd wrote: > We purchased a Belkin N router. He uses his "g" card > wirelessly and is very pleased. I am currently connected via ethernet > as before, except now with router in the middle. I am noticing a > considerable drop in performance going via the router as opposed to > directly to the cable modem; enough so that when he is not home i > connect the modem directly, only using the router when necessary. > This slower performance (taking longer to load web pages, and slower > download speeds) occurs whether or not he is connected. My first > question is whether this slowdown is to be expected when wired > through the router as opposed to directly to the modem? No. For Internet service, the speed chokepoint is usually in the cable modem, the cable hookup beyond it outside the home, and in the Internet itself. Ethernet is always better than wireless for internal local area networking within the home between computers. > If not, any > suggestions on what i can do to increase performance? First check your cables. Make sure that your Ethernet cable from the modem to the router is plugged into the router's "WAN" port, possibly yellow in color. You may need to educate yourself in setting up the router, or at least in checking its settings. It is possible that the router is set for features you do not need and which usually slow down performance. Is the router set for assigning the IP address to your G4 via DHCP? > > Would i have better speed going wireless myself? It is way too early to think about that extra complication. Go here for their Speed Test on your Internet performance under varying conditions. Router vs no router. Roommate's wireless vs his Ethernet vs your Ethernet. http://www.speakeasy.net/ Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Listnanny note Re: (messages with no subject)
On Jul 27, 5:42 pm, Beverly Woods wrote: > If you get the list via email, the sender's address is in the Sender > column. Copy and paste that into your reply in place of the group's > email address. Beverly, thanks for the explanation. And I see the truncated, googlized address above. But, getting my list email in Digest mode, the sender's address is "From: nore...@googlegroups.com" . In this version, this is what I see from you as the third item in that portion of the thread which appears in that Digest: COPY/PASTE == 3 of 3 == Date: Sun, Jul 26 2009 6:09 pm From: Beverly Woods Regarding the spam messages sent to this and other LEM lists without a SNIP nannies offlist. thanks, Beverly LEM listnanny END COPY/PASTE Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Listnanny note Re: (messages with no subject)
On Jul 26, 9:09 pm, Beverly Woods wrote: > Regarding the spam messages sent to this and other LEM lists without a > subject line, these were likely the result of security compromises of > Yahoo email accounts. > > I recommend that anyone who can sub to LEM groups with something other > than a Yahoo account do so. If you have a Yahoo email account subbed to > one of the LEM lists and find that your posts are moderated, that would > be the reason. > > I removed the spam messages from the archives, so you will not find them > there. I think there is no reason for further discussion on the list of > this issue. Please address any further concerns to myself or other > nannies offlist. > > thanks, > > Beverly > LEM listnanny Hello Beverly: I would have been happy to come to you offlist, but you did not provide your email address. I guess my last comments are that I suspected this whole business had something do do with yahoo problems which I had seen reported elsewhere. But I saw no connection until Robert sent his contribution. Let me say that your advice is welcome and would have been even more welcome if provided earlier. Al Poujlin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re:
Tim: I thought I explained it adequately here: http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist/t/0ecb067bad10b6bc?hl=en But the mystery lies, I believe, in how Google Groups is handling the traffic, and I cannot fully explain that. The two nonsense messages appeared in the imaclist Digest: imaclist - 6 new messages in 3 topics - digest Date: July 20, 2009 3:23:48 AM EDT The Digest held a thread with no entry in the TOPIC line. It contains the two nonsense messages plus two more. The third message was Brian's item which was further quoted outside the thread. The fourth message was by Jarett DeAngelis at Notre Dame who quoted Brian's message simply as the occasion to ask about FreeBSD and to comment about the paucity of traffiic in this list. When I click on the link at the beginning of the thread, http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist/t/cfa4d146f7a6dc51?hl=en Here in the 'FreeBSD on iMac G3' thread, everyone can see three messages, but not the two by ""s. yaz"" and not Brian's. message except as a quote within the three. Jarett's message is the first, while quoting Brian's. Possibly the two "s. yaz" messages never appeared in List mode, possibly someone cleaned them out of the online version. A search on the sender's name fails to get a hit. Tim, do you want me to quote the entirety of the two messages in the Digest version of the thread where Brian's message appeared including the garbage? Does anybody? Al Poulin On Jul 25, 5:56 pm, Tim Grimes wrote: > Perhaps one of you could explain to me what has outraged the prima donas > amongst us? I'm not seeing "spam" in any Emails recevied from this group? > > Cheers > > --- On Sat, 7/25/09, Justin Reichert wrote: > > > > > From: Justin Reichert > > Subject: Re: Re: > > To: imaclist@googlegroups.com > > Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 10:48 AM > > Seriously? Spamming links to a small > > email list? If you're going to spam your link > > maybe you should think about posting it in a smaller, dumber > > email list. xD > > > On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:50 PM, > > John Callahan > > wrote: > > > On Jul 19, 2009, at 11:12 PM, Brian Troisi wrote: > > > > Thank you for positing phishing website links. > > It's sooo helpful > > > sarcasm> > > > > If you're going to spam links here, please leave. > > If you didn't send > > > > it (virus or something), then please fix it. > > > > Who is the culprit!! Throw the dirty devil > > out!! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re:
A few minutes prior to Brian's post, there were two "no subject," messages from ""s. yaz"." Those exterior quotes are mine. The message texts were simply .com items of about 20 letters which looked like spam. These two messages appeared in digest mode in the same thread as Brian's message, but I cannot find them in searching imaclist at google groups. Al Poulin On Jul 24, 1:20 pm, Tim Grimes wrote: > Hello Brian, I have no idea what you're talking about. > > --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Brian Troisi wrote: > > > > > From: Brian Troisi > > Subject: Re: > > To: imaclist@googlegroups.com > > Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 11:12 PM > > > Thank you for positing phishing website links. It's sooo > > helpful > sarcasm> > > > If you're going to spam links here, please leave. If you > > didn't send > > it (virus or something), then please fix it. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two WLANs or One?
Everything is fine. iBook plays with Time Capsule. Setup is both AirPort boxes cabled to Verizon Router which is set for DHCP and WiFi turned OFF, both boxes in Bridge mode, and Time Capsule set with File Sharing ON via AirPort Utilities "Disk" button. But I am embarrassed that the AirPort Express was not set to Bridge mode as I had said earlier. I just relied on my son's assurance on that without checking myself. Hmmm, can't always trust those IT people, eh? Before discovering the error, he spent about 20 minutes on this with the iBook and iMac side by side, doing Terminal voodoo with sudos, looking at IP addresses, and pings, all to verify that the setups were not okay. While explaining things to me, he mentioned that he does this Terminal stuff half his work day. Again, thanks for the advice and support. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two WLANs or One?
On Jun 24, 11:38 am, Bruce Johnson wrote: > So, I believe your solution is this: > > --Internet-->[Verizon Router]<--->[TC (as router)]<--->(ethernet)--- > >[Air.Exp. (as bridge to TC)] > > Set up your Time Capsule as a router, (the default mode) to serve > addresses to your local network, it will route all the clients to the > Verizon router for internet access, and the Airport Express will then > connect via ethernet to one of the LAN ports on the TC instead of the > Verizon box. I recabled Airport Express to the Time Capsule router which uses DHCP. > > The Airport Express is set up in bridged mode, as it is now, no > changes will be needed beyond a restart, I expect. Restarted Macs and unplugged/replugged power to Airport Express and TC. > > This will make the network managed by the TC as the LAN for all your > client systems, and I think this should work for letting you use a > wireless system on the AE use the TC for backups. That was a nice hope, but the iBook on WLAN B still does not see the TC for backup on WLAN A. And when the Intel iMac is on WLAN B, it does not see the TC for backup either. But both get to the Internet no matter what cabling configuration I try. The iMac is fine when I select WLAN A in AirPort. By the way, I recabled the AP Express to the Verizon router, so that it and the TC are peers again. And I turned the Verizon WiFi "on," using DHCP. That makes no change. So I still need to find new settings for the AirPort boxes. I sent my original post to my son living out of town. When I talked with him, in two seconds he said we need to let the Verizon router do the DHCP to the client machines, just as you indicated in your first answer to me. But to put this generic plan in motion, he wants to get into my AirPort Utility on his next visit to adjust settings in the TC and AP Express. Maybe in a day or so. Will let you know. Maybe I'll give up on this and just run one WLAN with the TC set to 802.11, both g and n, in the 2.4 GHz band, giving up the advantages of the 5GHz band for the faster machines. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two WLANs or One?
On Jun 23, 7:02 pm, Ryan Waldon wrote: > Yes they are. The Macs and the Linux box can all see each, and interact. My > wife's Vista rig is a different story... Thanks, Ryan. Perhaps your 802.11g network is also set to work in the 802.11b standard, or do you have some sort of file sharing going on between the two networks? Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two WLANs or One?
On Jun 23, 3:39 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > iTunes and iPod don't care at all what transport underlies the TCP/IP > network. Your 'network' in this instance is everything connected back > to the Verizon router...your Airport devices are acting as wireless > switches, not routers in this setup. > > (Routers connect different networks, switches connect different parts > of a single network.) > > Your overall speed between any two nodes on the network will be > limited by the slowest link, so the 802.11g will slow things down, but > the 802.11n base station is connected to the network via 100 megabit > ethernet..it will talk to your iPod at 802.11g speeds, but anything > connected to it will talk to the internet at 802.11n speeds (actually > whatever speed your internet is at, as even 802.11b networks can go > faster than the average residential internet connection) > > The only times that you'll slow down a wireless station is when the > faster and slower device are connected to the same base station, here > you're connecting on two different segments of your LAN, so it's ok. Bruce: I slept on this, literally! Anyway, I was hoping something like your explanation would work out. But as implied in my original post (and I just verified it again), the G4 iBook on WLAN B cannot see the Time Capsule via AirPort. The iBook does fine with Time Machine via its Ethernet connection to the Verizon router. When I rearrange boxes on a book shelf, I will physically connect the iBook to the Time Capsule. To be more clear, I should have stated in my original post that the Time Capsule (2008) is the base station for WLAN A and that the Airport Express is the base station for WLAN B. So, to partially repeat my original post: QUOTE: WLAN A: 802.11n only (5 GHz) to maximize throughput for iMac and MacBook. Want to reset Apple TV to this net. WLAN B: 802.11g (2.4GHz) for G4 iBook, two iPod Touches, son's iPhone and his business secure laptop PC. Currently handles Apple TV. Both are set at WPA2 Personal. Both access Internet in separate Bridge mode via a Verizon router which has Coax connection to Verizon's FiOS fiber/coax conversion box (Optical Network Terminal- ONT) outside the house. Verizon router's WiFi (802.11b/g) is turned off. I want the iBook to work seamlessly with Time Capsule. My wife needs to sync MacBook and iMac iTunes with Apple TV and iPod Touch. Are there ways to set up these machines and accessory devices for these functions with the two separate networks? Or is it best to put it all under the Time Capsule? UNQUOTE I believe all machines and devices would work well in one WLAN with the Time Capsule base station set for both 802.11g and 802.11n in the 2.4GHz band. But there I lose the speed advantage for the Intel iMac and the MacBook in having their dedicated 802.11n network in the 5GHz band. As things stand now, the MacBook can work with the iPod Touch on one network and must manually stitch to the other network for Time Machine to the Time Capsule. The iBook cannot even see Time Capsule. So I was hoping there could be a way to use some method of File Sharing to transcend the two networks. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two WLANs or One?
On Jun 23, 2:00 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > Well you don't need to use the Wifi, if the airports are connected via > ethernet? > > How do the Airport's connect to the Verizon router? > > Ideally your wifi network should look like this: > > ---Internet--->[verizon router](wired > connection)===[Airports] ))) [clients] That is the setup, via Ethernet. But my question revolves around being able to let iTunes sync seamlessly between machines of one network (802.11n) with devices (iPod Touch) on the other network (802.11g). > > On the Airport side, would I be changing the setting in Connection > > Sharing, or doing something with SNMP? > > No. Not SNMP. This is in the section about getting addresses, so it > will mention DHCP. I'm not completely familiar with the interface, > since my airports are the old UFO style which don't work with the new > Airport setup software. > > I believe they call this bridge mode. As I mentioned in my original post, we are in bridge mode. To elucidate the interface, the "Connection Sharing" setting has three options: Share a public IP address Distribute a range of IP addresses Off (Bridge Mode) The relevant paragraph in the Apple design document says: "Â If you don’t want your wireless device to share its IP address, choose “Off (Bridge Mode).” If you set up your device in bridge mode, AirPort computers have access to all services on the Ethernet network, and the device does not provide Internet sharing services. See “You’re Using an Existing Ethernet Network” on page 36 for more information about setting up your wireless device as a bridge." (page 29 of "Designing AirPort Networks Using AirPort Utility Mac OS X v10.5 + Windows" http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/Designing_AirPort_Networks_10.5-Windows.pdf Thanks again Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two WLANs or One?
On Jun 23, 12:34 pm, Ryan Waldon wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Al Poulin wrote: > > > Can I run two wireless local networks or should I merge all functions > > into one WiFi 802.11g/n net? > > I run two WLANs at my house with a similar set-up. I have a 802.11g network > for my MacBook, eeePC 900, iPod Touch and my wife's Vista laptop. We also > have a 802.11b network for my G3 Dual USB iBook and my Palm TX. Works great > with few to no problems... Hello Ryan: In your setup, are the machines on one WLAN able to work wirelessly with machines on the other? Thanks, Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two WLANs or One?
On Jun 23, 12:28 pm, Bruce Johnson wrote: > On Jun 23, 2009, at 7:03 AM, Al Poulin wrote:> > > > Both are set at WPA2 Personal. Both access Internet in separate > > Bridge mode via a Verizon router which has Coax connection to > > Verizon's FiOS fiber/coax conversion box (Optical Network Terminal- > > ONT) outside the house. Verizon router's WiFi (802.11b/g) is turned > > off. > > The best way to do this is to set the Airports to NOT pass out IP > addresses but let the Verizon router upstream do it. This way they're > wireless segments of the same LAN. This is an option in the Airport > setup. Thank you Bruce, I think I know what you are saying. Both Airports are set for DHCP to the client machines, but I think you are saying the Verizon router should do that, correct? It is already set for DHCP, so I only need to turn on its WiFi. Also, would that force me to run the Time Capsule at the slower 802.11g instead of n? On the Airport side, would I be changing the setting in Connection Sharing, or doing something with SNMP? If in Connection Sharing, do I select "Share a public IP address" instead of the "Off (Bridge Mode)" setting? If I am close to understanding you, why is is best to make the change? Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Two WLANs or One?
Can I run two wireless local networks or should I merge all functions into one WiFi 802.11g/n net? This is my first venture in setting up a WiFi device, a Time Capsule (2008). A couple years ago, my son set up an Airport Express. Now we have an aluminum Intel iMac and a MacBook in the mix. The current setup is: WLAN A: 802.11n only (5 GHz) to maximize throughput for iMac and MacBook. Want to reset Apple TV to this net. WLAN B: 802.11g (2.4GHz) for G4 iBook, two iPod Touches, son's iPhone and his business secure laptop PC. Currently handles Apple TV. Both are set at WPA2 Personal. Both access Internet in separate Bridge mode via a Verizon router which has Coax connection to Verizon's FiOS fiber/coax conversion box (Optical Network Terminal- ONT) outside the house. Verizon router's WiFi (802.11b/g) is turned off. I want the iBook to work seamlessly with Time Capsule. My wife needs to sync MacBook and iMac iTunes with Apple TV and iPod Touch. Are there ways to set up these machines and accessory devices for these functions with the two separate networks? Or is it best to put it all under the Time Capsule? Thanks for all the insight. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Safari 4 Not Beta
As those of you who played with the Safari 4 Beta update to today's new release, I'd be interested in knowing how its going. Many thanks, Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to Low End Mac's iMac List, a group for those using G3, G4, G5, and Intel Core iMacs as well as Apple eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to imaclist-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
