Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter output question
Charles Apple wrote On some of the SourceWriter templates (for example the Family Group Sheet) the address is displayed as [ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE,] in formatting the output for Footnote/Endnotes and Bibliography. What controls this display, and where is it located? I have searched, and searched and can't find it. It's part of the programming built into the Templates and cannot be accessed by users, I don't think. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter output question
I was wondering about this a little bit also. I realize that the ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE is hard coded into the program and I have not printed out all possible report permutations, but does the address ever appear in any kind of report? So far I have never seen it appear in the clear which begs the question, why is it even bothered to be input in the first place? Brian in CA Just wondering... -Original Message- From: Jenny M Benson [mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk] Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 3:31 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter output question Charles Apple wrote On some of the SourceWriter templates (for example the Family Group Sheet) the address is displayed as [ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE,] in formatting the output for Footnote/Endnotes and Bibliography. What controls this display, and where is it located? I have searched, and searched and can't find it. It's part of the programming built into the Templates and cannot be accessed by users, I don't think. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter output question
Brian L. Lightfoot wrote I was wondering about this a little bit also. I realize that the ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE is hard coded into the program and I have not printed out all possible report permutations, but does the address ever appear in any kind of report? So far I have never seen it appear in the clear which begs the question, why is it even bothered to be input in the first place? I suppose it's there for the benefit of the user, rather than anyone to whom the user might send a Report. In many, but by no means all, the address will be that of the researcher, but for all the cases where it is someone else's you probably want to record it. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter output question
On some of the SourceWriter templates (for example the Family Group Sheet) the address is displayed as [ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE,] in formatting the output for Footnote/Endnotes and Bibliography. What controls this display, and where is it located? I have searched, and searched and can't find it. Charles Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter - IRC - which template and how to use it specifically?
Dan Bateham wrote Has anyone any suggestions, with specifics, for using a SourceWriter template for documenting an online chat (IRC) more or less in accordance with _EE_ standards? I would use the template for InterviewsTranscriptsPrivately held. I think the word transcript only appears in the Bibliography and you can use the Override on the Master Source to delete that word if it is not appropriate. Personally, I don't think the fact that the interview - or chat - took place online rather than face to face is important, but you could add a note to that effect in the Comment if you wished. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter - IRC - which template... PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE
I would appreciate it if any of you would point out any problems you think I may have by using the following sourcing approach re: interviews, emails, phone calls, etc... I have a master source for the Personal Knowledge of each of my relatives from whom I have obtained data about their relatives and/or our common ancestors. Then in the detail I put email Sep 9 2009 or interview Aug 5 2009 or questionnaire Jun 1989. Admittedly, I sometimes will set up a separate source for a letter, because I have hard copy. And most of mine are Basic format (for now). When I started using SW format, I went gung ho for the email template, etc., but then thought I really didn't need a master source for each email I received from my cousin in England! Another advantage I thought I would have is that I could turn off printing these detail citations more easily, if nec. for some reporting in the future. I welcome your thoughts, flame or otherwise. ;) --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Harbaugh Hopkins Hughes Jones Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sullivan Williams - Original Message From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:16:32 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter - IRC - which template and how to use it specifically? Dan Bateham wrote Has anyone any suggestions, with specifics, for using a SourceWriter template for documenting an online chat (IRC) more or less in accordance with _EE_ standards? I would use the template for InterviewsTranscriptsPrivately held. I think the word transcript only appears in the Bibliography and you can use the Override on the Master Source to delete that word if it is not appropriate. Personally, I don't think the fact that the interview - or chat - took place online rather than face to face is important, but you could add a note to that effect in the Comment if you wished. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter - IRC - which template and how to use it specifically?
Has anyone any suggestions, with specifics, for using a SourceWriter template for documenting an online chat (IRC) more or less in accordance with _EE_ standards? Thanks, Dan Bateham Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: ArtifactsPrivately held; Author's name in citation
I have checked Evidence Explained and agree the Author should be included. I have submitted a problem report on this issue. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. GeneJ (GM) wrote: In _/SourceWriter/_ template (ArtifactsPrivately held), I’ve entered author’s names. Output preview reports name in the bibliography, but not in the either the full or short footnote. I can edit in override, but is this the way the template is supposed to work? Thank you for any assistance you are able to provide. --GJ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter for marriage and divorce indexes?
Thank you for the excellent advice (Jennie Benson Connie Sheets)on using the basic source system for citing these marriage and divorce indexes. I created the source and it is working great. Thank you for your help. Vicki Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter for marriage and divorce indexes?
v pedersen wrote Also, there is no Sourcewriter template at all for any type of divorce record. I could use a generic Source template, but am wondering if there is a template that I am overlooking in Sourcewriter that could be used. What you could do is us use the Basic System and write the citation in the form in which you want it to appear. This is an example from Evidence Explained: First citation “Kentucky Divorce Index, 1973–1993,” database, Kentucky Vital Records Index (http://ukcc.uky.edu/~vitalrec/ : accessed 13 February 2007), entry for Shown v. Shown, Daviess County, 8 June 1979 decree. Subsequent citation “Kentucky Divorce Index, 1973–1993,” database, Kentucky Vital Records Index, entry for Shown v. Shown, Daviess Co., 8 June 1979 decree. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter for marriage and divorce indexes?
Vicki, If you are working with indexes you find online, I would probably use the Internet Database template. If actual divorce records, I would start with the Court records templates. I always experiment with how each template prints to get the best results: you can leave fields blank or in many cases enter data in a field other than what that field is labeled for. Connie --- On Thu, 3/19/09, v pedersen wrote: I like using Sourcewriter and find the templates useful, however, I cannot find a Sourcewriter template for marriage indexes or divorce indexes. My state is putting a marriage index online and will soon be putting a divorce index online as well. As a workaround for the marriage index, I have been using the template for marriage registers as all of the templates under marriage index are for the UK. Does anyone predict any problems I might have down the road doing it this way? Also, there is no Sourcewriter template at all for any type of divorce record. I could use a generic Source template, but am wondering if there is a template that I am overlooking in Sourcewriter that could be used. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Sourcewriter for marriage and divorce indexes?
I like using Sourcewriter and find the templates useful, however, I cannot find a Sourcewriter template for marriage indexes or divorce indexes. My state is putting a marriage index online and will soon be putting a divorce index online as well. As a workaround for the marriage index, I have been using the template for marriage registers as all of the templates under marriage index are for the UK. Does anyone predict any problems I might have down the road doing it this way? Also, there is no Sourcewriter template at all for any type of divorce record. I could use a generic Source template, but am wondering if there is a template that I am overlooking in Sourcewriter that could be used. Thank You again. Vicki Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter: ArtifactsPrivately held; Author's name in citation
In _SourceWriter_ template (ArtifactsPrivately held), I've entered author's names. Output preview reports name in the bibliography, but not in the either the full or short footnote. I can edit in override, but is this the way the template is supposed to work? Thank you for any assistance you are able to provide. --GJ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem
Kirsten, There is a significant difference in the behaviour sourcewriter between v7.0.0.76 and v7.0.0.86. One should always use the current version. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Improved Interface for OpenOffice.org Contacts Database http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:12:44 -0800 Sherry: Thanks for checking. It may be a quirk with .76 that was fixed in .86. I tried two from scratch using that template and got the same result both times. No italics in the other templates that I use, though. Guess I need to update. Thanks again. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of S. Fry Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:31 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem Apologies for sending this third e-mail, if the first e-mail makes it to the list. The second e-mail DID make the list, but is senseless without the first! I have several sources created with SourceWriter for online books as well as printed books with information in the Comments boxes of both the source and the detail. None of the text is italicized. I created a new fake source to see if something had changed recently. Again there were no italics. I copied these book sources to the Source Clipboard, added them to new events. Never any italics. I have Legacy 7.0.0.86. Sherry - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman To: LegacyUserGroup Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem I'm having a problem with a master source created using the SourceWriter template Book book, authored author known online book. When brought onto the Source Clipboard, everything typed into either of the Text Comments boxes appears in italics. The text doesn't show as italicized when typed, only after it's added to a field as a source for a given fact (name, dob, etc.) I've tried highlighting the text and clicking the italics button and also typing the text into Notepad then copying/pasting into the detail boxes but nothing will clear the italics. I'm using Legacy 7.0.0.76. Does anyone else see the same result with this version or with the later update? Kirsten _ Hotmail, Messenger, Photos and more - all with the new Windows Live. Get started! http://www.download.live.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem
I should add that I copied the book sources to the Source Clipboard then to another event, and again no italics. Sherry - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem I'm having a problem with a master source created using the SourceWriter template Book book, authored author known online book. When brought onto the Source Clipboard, everything typed into either of the Text Comments boxes appears in italics. The text doesn't show as italicized when typed, only after it's added to a field as a source for a given fact (name, dob, etc.) I've tried highlighting the text and clicking the italics button and also typing the text into Notepad then copying/pasting into the detail boxes but nothing will clear the italics. I'm using Legacy 7.0.0.76. Does anyone else see the same result with this version or with the later update? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem
Apologies for sending this third e-mail, if the first e-mail makes it to the list. The second e-mail DID make the list, but is senseless without the first! I have several sources created with SourceWriter for online books as well as printed books with information in the Comments boxes of both the source and the detail. None of the text is italicized. I created a new fake source to see if something had changed recently. Again there were no italics. I copied these book sources to the Source Clipboard, added them to new events. Never any italics. I have Legacy 7.0.0.86. Sherry - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem I'm having a problem with a master source created using the SourceWriter template Book book, authored author known online book. When brought onto the Source Clipboard, everything typed into either of the Text Comments boxes appears in italics. The text doesn't show as italicized when typed, only after it's added to a field as a source for a given fact (name, dob, etc.) I've tried highlighting the text and clicking the italics button and also typing the text into Notepad then copying/pasting into the detail boxes but nothing will clear the italics. I'm using Legacy 7.0.0.76. Does anyone else see the same result with this version or with the later update? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem
Kirsten, I have several sources created with SourceWriter for online books as well as printed books with details in the Comments boxes of both the source and the detail. None of the text is italicized. I created a new fake source to see if something had changed recently. Again there were no italics. I have Legacy 7.0.0.86. Sherry - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem I'm having a problem with a master source created using the SourceWriter template Book book, authored author known online book. When brought onto the Source Clipboard, everything typed into either of the Text Comments boxes appears in italics. The text doesn't show as italicized when typed, only after it's added to a field as a source for a given fact (name, dob, etc.) I've tried highlighting the text and clicking the italics button and also typing the text into Notepad then copying/pasting into the detail boxes but nothing will clear the italics. I'm using Legacy 7.0.0.76. Does anyone else see the same result with this version or with the later update? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem
Sherry: Thanks for checking. It may be a quirk with .76 that was fixed in .86. I tried two from scratch using that template and got the same result both times. No italics in the other templates that I use, though. Guess I need to update. Thanks again. Kirsten -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com]on Behalf Of S. Fry Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:31 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem Apologies for sending this third e-mail, if the first e-mail makes it to the list. The second e-mail DID make the list, but is senseless without the first! I have several sources created with SourceWriter for online books as well as printed books with information in the Comments boxes of both the source and the detail. None of the text is italicized. I created a new fake source to see if something had changed recently. Again there were no italics. I copied these book sources to the Source Clipboard, added them to new events. Never any italics. I have Legacy 7.0.0.86. Sherry - Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem I'm having a problem with a master source created using the SourceWriter template Book book, authored author known online book. When brought onto the Source Clipboard, everything typed into either of the Text Comments boxes appears in italics. The text doesn't show as italicized when typed, only after it's added to a field as a source for a given fact (name, dob, etc.) I've tried highlighting the text and clicking the italics button and also typing the text into Notepad then copying/pasting into the detail boxes but nothing will clear the italics. I'm using Legacy 7.0.0.76. Does anyone else see the same result with this version or with the later update? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter Template Problem
I'm having a problem with a master source created using the SourceWriter template Book book, authored author known online book. When brought onto the Source Clipboard, everything typed into either of the Text Comments boxes appears in italics. The text doesn't show as italicized when typed, only after it's added to a field as a source for a given fact (name, dob, etc.) I've tried highlighting the text and clicking the italics button and also typing the text into Notepad then copying/pasting into the detail boxes but nothing will clear the italics. I'm using Legacy 7.0.0.76. Does anyone else see the same result with this version or with the later update? Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY
Elizabeth, I thought we were all trying to use more friendly language on this list. Certainly it has been better lately. I find your use your brains! attitude insulting and unhelpful. As you can see from some of the responses, there are some brainy people here who find the Source Writer a big help. (That includes me. I had a lot of trouble achieving consistency when using the basic source method.) Please respect differences of opinion. Ward - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Richardson erich...@worldnet.att.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY Sorry, I don't use the Source Writer - it seems a lot of waste of time. (Have you noticed the preponderance of questions about it now that it has shown up? We were able to far better write our sources before then and in a lot less time.) Anyway, what does it say if you choose author instead of editor? Sources don't say author, so just use that field. Please, folks, don't let this software run your lives. Use your brains! Elizabeth ... Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY
Arnold, I wold use the authored books basic format template and add the word compiler on the author suffix line. That avoids any need for an override (overrides may not print properly in reports until bugs such as those associated with subsequent citations are fixed) and results in a citation that is, as near as I can tell with a quick check of EE, completely in compliance with standards. Connie Sheets --- On Sun, 1/25/09, Arnold Sprague aspra...@chicagogsb.edu wrote: I have come across a goodly number of books which are Compiled By, not Authored By nor Edited by as are the current options. I end up using Authored or Edited by, but then have to click on Click here to go to the overrides tab to change the text from editor or author to compiler. Does anyone have an easier method? Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY
I like the sourcewriter. There is room for improvement of course, and I am looking forward to the converter thingie so that the rest of my basic sources can be switched over easier, but overall I like it a lot. I am VERY obsessive compulsive about having everything in my file consistent and uniform. The sourcewriter helps me with that. When I was using the basic, I couldn't remember how I entered things specifically depending on the type so I would have to track down a similar entry, copy and paste, then change the particulars. I think Legacy has done a good job trying to give us everything we ask for. I think it is reasonable to allow them some time to work out the kinks and bugs. Even when you have something in full beta testing there will always be unforseen issues when you go to a full release. michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY
Ward, I don't think suggesting people use their brains to be unfriendly. Using the SourceWriter isn't not using your brains (sorry for the double negative, but it seems apt here) and I can see that some people find it useful. But when people are unable to either skip a field or enter something slightly different than what the template requested, that is NOT using their brains. My exhortation was to get people to see they should not let this software run their lives (or their sourcing opportunities as we are discussing). Some of the brainy people who are using it acknowledge that the SourceWriter isn't geared for every type source and they opt to use the basic system. Again, use your brains rather than trying to hammer a square peg in a round hole. One of the strongest parts of the Legacy sourcing system is its preview and edit functions. When you don't see the source the way you want it, you can fix it! Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Ward Walker wnkwal...@rogers.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY Elizabeth, I thought we were all trying to use more friendly language on this list. Certainly it has been better lately. I find your use your brains! attitude insulting and unhelpful. As you can see from some of the responses, there are some brainy people here who find the Source Writer a big help. (That includes me. I had a lot of trouble achieving consistency when using the basic source method.) Please respect differences of opinion. Ward - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Richardson erich...@worldnet.att.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY Sorry, I don't use the Source Writer - it seems a lot of waste of time. (Have you noticed the preponderance of questions about it now that it has shown up? We were able to far better write our sources before then and in a lot less time.) Anyway, what does it say if you choose author instead of editor? Sources don't say author, so just use that field. Please, folks, don't let this software run your lives. Use your brains! Elizabeth Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY
I have come across a goodly number of books which are Compiled By, not Authored By nor Edited by as are the current options. I end up using Authored or Edited by, but then have to click on Click here to go to the overrides tab to change the text from editor or author to compiler. Does anyone have an easier method? Thank you, Arnold Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY
The source citation doesn't read author or authored by, so in that field I just add the word, compiler, or compiled by. I have yet to use the sentence override for anything. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Arnold Sprague aspra...@chicagogsb.edu To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY I have come across a goodly number of books which are Compiled By, not Authored By nor Edited by as are the current options. I end up using Authored or Edited by, but then have to click on Click here to go to the overrides tab to change the text from editor or author to compiler. Does anyone have an easier method? Thank you, Arnold Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY
Elizabeth, If you go to SourceWriter and choose Books, your first choice is Was the book authored or edited? If you choose one of the Edited options, the word EDITOR will then appear in the Footnote/Endnote Citation *and* in the Bibliography. In that case, one has to use the sentence override. I am asking that the word COMPILER appear via SourceWriter similar to EDITOR so that no word(s) has to be enter. Arnold At 02:01 PM 1/25/2009, you wrote: The source citation doesn't read author or authored by, so in that field I just add the word, compiler, or compiled by. I have yet to use the sentence override for anything. Elizabeth - Original Message - From: Arnold Sprague aspra...@chicagogsb.edu To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY I have come across a goodly number of books which are Compiled By, not Authored By nor Edited by as are the current options. I end up using Authored or Edited by, but then have to click on Click here to go to the overrides tab to change the text from editor or author to compiler. Does anyone have an easier method? Thank you, Arnold Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY
Sorry, I don't use the Source Writer - it seems a lot of waste of time. (Have you noticed the preponderance of questions about it now that it has shown up? We were able to far better write our sources before then and in a lot less time.) Anyway, what does it say if you choose author instead of editor? Sources don't say author, so just use that field. Please, folks, don't let this software run your lives. Use your brains! Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Arnold Sprague aspra...@chicagogsb.edu To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY Elizabeth, If you go to SourceWriter and choose Books, your first choice is Was the book authored or edited? If you choose one of the Edited options, the word EDITOR will then appear in the Footnote/Endnote Citation *and* in the Bibliography. In that case, one has to use the sentence override. I am asking that the word COMPILER appear via SourceWriter similar to EDITOR so that no word(s) has to be enter. Arnold At 02:01 PM 1/25/2009, you wrote: The source citation doesn't read author or authored by, so in that field I just add the word, compiler, or compiled by. I have yet to use the sentence override for anything. Elizabeth - Original Message - From: Arnold Sprague aspra...@chicagogsb.edu To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY I have come across a goodly number of books which are Compiled By, not Authored By nor Edited by as are the current options. I end up using Authored or Edited by, but then have to click on Click here to go to the overrides tab to change the text from editor or author to compiler. Does anyone have an easier method? Thank you, Arnold Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY
I disagree with Elizabeth about the SourceWriter. I find it to be the speediest way to get a source that's up to my standards, particularly in the case of census and a couple of others that we all used frequently. I would encourage those of you who are new to Legacy (or new to genealogy) to use the SourceWriter, primarily because it will help you to form the excellent habit of keeping your sources consistent. Even if the usage of SourceWriter were as tedious as Elizabeth believes, it couldn't slow anyone down - since its usage is entirely optional. Elizabeth, if I'm not mistaken, we have had to agree to disagree before! g (And her suggestion for getting compiled into your source is an excellent one.) Janis Walker Gilmore On 1/25/09 6:21 PM, Elizabeth Richardson erich...@worldnet.att.net wrote: Sorry, I don't use the Source Writer - it seems a lot of waste of time. (Have you noticed the preponderance of questions about it now that it has shown up? We were able to far better write our sources before then and in a lot less time.) Anyway, what does it say if you choose author instead of editor? Sources don't say author, so just use that field. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY
Source Writer is terrific I think, but I personally have a lot to do to clean mine up, so maybe I shouldn't talk! BUT, I play the CD's that came with DELUXE 7 over and over, until it sinks in. I even went back and played the 12-step using Legacy disk and found a lot I'd missed . Just a suggestion In a message dated 1/25/2009 3:55:59 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rajan...@earthlink.net writes: I disagree with Elizabeth about the SourceWriter. I find it to be the speediest way to get a source that's up to my standards, particularly in the case of census and a couple of others that we all used frequently. I would encourage those of you who are new to Legacy (or new to genealogy) to use the SourceWriter, primarily because it will help you to form the excellent habit of keeping your sources consistent. Even if the usage of SourceWriter were as tedious as Elizabeth believes, it couldn't slow anyone down - since its usage is entirely optional. Elizabeth, if I'm not mistaken, we have had to agree to disagree before! g (And her suggestion for getting compiled into your source is an excellent one.) Janis Walker Gilmore On 1/25/09 6:21 PM, Elizabeth Richardson erich...@worldnet.att.net wrote: Sorry, I don't use the Source Writer - it seems a lot of waste of time. (Have you noticed the preponderance of questions about it now that it has shown up? We were able to far better write our sources before then and in a lot less time.) Anyway, what does it say if you choose author instead of editor? Sources don't say author, so just use that field. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp **From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom0023) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / Book COMPILED BY
Have been using LEGACY since late in V.5. Had my sources all set up - then Source Writer showed up. Tried it several times - but result in REPORTS (especially the Book and Other Reports) was 4-6 lines long. I can give enough detail for anyone to go back to my sources in less that 2 lines in the BASIC SYSTEM of sources. I remain there(actually deleted the few I had done with Source Writer). So Elizabeth is not alone! Keith On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Janis L Gilmore rajan...@earthlink.net wrote: I disagree with Elizabeth about the SourceWriter. I find it to be the -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: geosc...@gmail.com McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
Bruce, I've used group by correspondant and if I'm looking at this correctly displays 5 times with different details and so does group by e-mails. So, I don't know why they are broken down like that. They seem to display exactly the same. --- On Tue, 12/9/08, Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 8:42 PM If you have 5 e-mails from the same person, group by corresponded provides you one Master Source to be used 5 times (with different Detail Source). Group by e-mail provides 5 Master Sources. Hope that heps. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Melanie Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the help files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. Melanie Armstrong *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
Everyone, Thanks for the help. --- On Tue, 12/9/08, music-line [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: music-line [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 9:09 PM Hi Melanie, The was I see it is, if you wish to site an individual email as a source you use 'group by individual emails'. If you have a series of emails to/from one person you need to use 'group by correspondant'. Personally, it is unlikely that I would use one email as a source, so I have only used the 'group by correspondant'. The way I do it is, after selecting the template, fill in as much as is necessary/ possible for the Source info. I then attach each email (from me and the correspondant) to the multimedia section, in chronological order. One problem is that people often keep the same subject line for a series of emails, so I name each attached email in the following way: e.g. 2005 12 23 (09.28) - Alice Bloggs - RE Bloggs FH This represents the date the email is sent (which for sorting purposes I always put as MM DD), the time (in case you get more than one email on the same day with the same subject line, the person who sent the email (either me or the correspondant), and the subject line. For ease, I use the 'name' of the email as the 'caption'. (I know it means you get a really long file name, but it works for me) I do use the 'overrides' in the Master source section to read something like: Foot/Endnote: Joe Bloggs [(E-ADDRESS) FOR PRIVATE USE,] to Alice Bloggs, e-mail; privately held by Alice Bloggs. Subsequent Citation: Joe Bloggs [(E-ADDRESS) FOR PRIVATE USE,] to Alice Bloggs, e-mail; privately held by Alice Bloggs. Bibliography: Bloggs, Joe. E-mail correspondence with Alice Bloggs. Privately held by Alice Bloggs. (I do hate the surname only 'default', especially if you have a family database, where half of your surnames happen to be 'Bloggs'. It just seems lunacy to me!) When I come to cite the source to individuals and the detail screen comes up, for the 'subject line' I put: Email Reference: 2005 11 27 (06.38) - Joe Brookes - RE Brookes FH. (Fill in the rest as you feel inclined.) I then copy the text of the particular email I am citing, in the 'Texts/Comments' section. I then have the option of using the text if I want to print out the text with the source list. (By the way, when I do this, I always leave 2 blank lines at the top of the 'Texts/Comments' box. This has the effect of leaving one line blank between the citation and the text.) Personally, I hate using the 'Detailed screen' in Legacy, because it is fiddly if you want to edit it later. Now, I'm sure many would disagree with my way of working, so please read any other responding posts before making your final decision. I would hate for you to try and use this system if there are others that appear much better. Best of luck! Best wishes David * David S Brookes Musical Director, The Brewood Singers www.brewoodsingers.co.uk Organist Choirmaster, Polesworth Abbey www.polesworthabbey.co.uk * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melanie Armstrong Sent: 10 December 2008 01:52 To: Legacy user group Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the help files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. Melanie Armstrong *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
Melanie, I think you are correct that they display the same. But since I have over a 800 emails from 80 individuals the advantage to me of Group by Correspondent is that I have 80 Master Sources instead of over 800. If you want fewer sources to be displayed on your reports, you can combine emails between the same two individuals and put this combined text (multiple e-mails) into the Text portion of the Source, or into the multimedia of the Source as David explained. I hope this makes sense. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Melanie Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, I've used group by correspondant and if I'm looking at this correctly displays 5 times with different details and so does group by e-mails. So, I don't know why they are broken down like that. They seem to display exactly the same. --- On Tue, 12/9/08, Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 8:42 PM If you have 5 e-mails from the same person, group by corresponded provides you one Master Source to be used 5 times (with different Detail Source). Group by e-mail provides 5 Master Sources. Hope that heps. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Melanie Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the help files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. Melanie Armstrong *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
Bruce, Thanks. I think I get it now. --- On Wed, 12/10/08, Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:24 PM Melanie, I think you are correct that they display the same. But since I have over a 800 emails from 80 individuals the advantage to me of Group by Correspondent is that I have 80 Master Sources instead of over 800. If you want fewer sources to be displayed on your reports, you can combine emails between the same two individuals and put this combined text (multiple e-mails) into the Text portion of the Source, or into the multimedia of the Source as David explained. I hope this makes sense. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 4:42 AM, Melanie Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce, I've used group by correspondant and if I'm looking at this correctly displays 5 times with different details and so does group by e-mails. So, I don't know why they are broken down like that. They seem to display exactly the same. --- On Tue, 12/9/08, Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bruce Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 8:42 PM If you have 5 e-mails from the same person, group by corresponded provides you one Master Source to be used 5 times (with different Detail Source). Group by e-mail provides 5 Master Sources. Hope that heps. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Melanie Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the help files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. Melanie Armstrong *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the help files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. Melanie Armstrong *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
Well, Melanie, I know what and e-mail is, so I guess the other is snail mail :-). But that is off the top of my head as I've not looked at the latter. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Publish your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 17:51:51 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the help files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. Melanie Armstrong _ Are you a PC? Upload your PC story and show the world http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/ *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
If you have 5 e-mails from the same person, group by corresponded provides you one Master Source to be used 5 times (with different Detail Source). Group by e-mail provides 5 Master Sources. Hope that heps. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Melanie Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the help files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. Melanie Armstrong *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template
Hi Melanie, The was I see it is, if you wish to site an individual email as a source you use 'group by individual emails'. If you have a series of emails to/from one person you need to use 'group by correspondant'. Personally, it is unlikely that I would use one email as a source, so I have only used the 'group by correspondant'. The way I do it is, after selecting the template, fill in as much as is necessary/ possible for the Source info. I then attach each email (from me and the correspondant) to the multimedia section, in chronological order. One problem is that people often keep the same subject line for a series of emails, so I name each attached email in the following way: e.g. 2005 12 23 (09.28) - Alice Bloggs - RE Bloggs FH This represents the date the email is sent (which for sorting purposes I always put as MM DD), the time (in case you get more than one email on the same day with the same subject line, the person who sent the email (either me or the correspondant), and the subject line. For ease, I use the 'name' of the email as the 'caption'. (I know it means you get a really long file name, but it works for me) I do use the 'overrides' in the Master source section to read something like: Foot/Endnote: Joe Bloggs [(E-ADDRESS) FOR PRIVATE USE,] to Alice Bloggs, e-mail; privately held by Alice Bloggs. Subsequent Citation: Joe Bloggs [(E-ADDRESS) FOR PRIVATE USE,] to Alice Bloggs, e-mail; privately held by Alice Bloggs. Bibliography: Bloggs, Joe. E-mail correspondence with Alice Bloggs. Privately held by Alice Bloggs. (I do hate the surname only 'default', especially if you have a family database, where half of your surnames happen to be 'Bloggs'. It just seems lunacy to me!) When I come to cite the source to individuals and the detail screen comes up, for the 'subject line' I put: Email Reference: 2005 11 27 (06.38) - Joe Brookes - RE Brookes FH. (Fill in the rest as you feel inclined.) I then copy the text of the particular email I am citing, in the 'Texts/Comments' section. I then have the option of using the text if I want to print out the text with the source list. (By the way, when I do this, I always leave 2 blank lines at the top of the 'Texts/Comments' box. This has the effect of leaving one line blank between the citation and the text.) Personally, I hate using the 'Detailed screen' in Legacy, because it is fiddly if you want to edit it later. Now, I'm sure many would disagree with my way of working, so please read any other responding posts before making your final decision. I would hate for you to try and use this system if there are others that appear much better. Best of luck! Best wishes David * David S Brookes Musical Director, The Brewood Singers www.brewoodsingers.co.uk Organist Choirmaster, Polesworth Abbey www.polesworthabbey.co.uk * -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melanie Armstrong Sent: 10 December 2008 01:52 To: Legacy user group Subject: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter Template Can anyone tell me the difference between the E-mail template for group by individual e-mails and group by correspondant? I just tried using group by correspondant and it just didn't seem to work correctly. I looked in the help files but didn't find anything. I'm using the latest build of Legacy 7. Melanie Armstrong *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp *** Holiday discounts on Legacy 7.0, add-ons, books, and more. Visit http://tinyurl.com/65rpbt. *** Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter / NEHGS
The New England Historical Genealogical Society (NEHGS) publishes a quarterly mailing for its membership called the Register http://www.newenglandancestors.org/publications/register.asp. I have looked and looked at the SourceWriter and cannot find an appropriate category for this type publication. Your help is needed again. Thanks in advance. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / NEHGS
I do not use the sourcewriter, but I can see both magazines and periodicals, though I would think periodicals is more apt. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Arnold Sprague [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 1:09 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / NEHGS The New England Historical Genealogical Society (NEHGS) publishes a quarterly mailing for its membership called the Register http://www.newenglandancestors.org/publications/register.asp. I have looked and looked at the SourceWriter and cannot find an appropriate category for this type publication. Your help is needed again. Thanks in advance. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / NEHGS
Arnold, Look in the SourceWriter for Internet E-Magazine E-Journals. Thank you for choosing Legacy, Jim Terry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree Legacy Charting http://LegacyFamilyTree.com Phone: 425 788-0932 We are changing the world of genealogy! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arnold Sprague Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 2:09 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter / NEHGS The New England Historical Genealogical Society (NEHGS) publishes a quarterly mailing for its membership called the Register http://www.newenglandancestors.org/publications/register.asp. I have looked and looked at the SourceWriter and cannot find an appropriate category for this type publication. Your help is needed again. Thanks in advance. _ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter http://www.spamfighter.com/len We are a community of 5.6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 209610 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter vs BASIC
Thanks Robert and Ron -- I just tried putting a new source (Ohio Deaths) using source writer. The resulting source on an Individual report was nearly 12 lines! With a BASIC source - it is 2 and makes much more sense. I continue to be unconvinced about the necessity for all of that data. I believe what I use is enough for the original purpose of a source -- that is helping other researchers to find my reasons for the information I show. I think this should be enough... Ohio Department of Health, Ohio Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-1944, and 1958-2002 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. (Ohio Department of Health. Index to Annual Deaths, 1958-2002. Ohio Department of Health, State Vital Statistics Unit, Columbus, OH, USA.) - Ancestry.com In short - Is the SourceWriter format the best one??? I do not think it is Keith -- Surnames: McKain, Horn, Riale, Ulrich, Erisman, Leiphart, Reed and Henry Website: http://home.comcast.net/~geosci64 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] McCain-McKane-O'Kane DNA Group 1 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter
Good Morning, I have just upgraded to Legacy 7.0 (Deluxe) and am trying to convert my Basic Sources. According to the User Manual the Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options Button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu. When I try to follow the directions above, there is no Source Template Conversion Tool listed in the submenu. I have already gone to the Options, Customize, Sources, tab and selected SourceWriter System under Source Entry System. I also performed a file maintenance/repair and also exited and restarted the program. When I open Am I missing the secret handshake needed to access this feature? Help! Kelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter
The Conversion Tool has yet to be made available to the paying customers. Stay tuned. Tom Herson Ithaca, NY - Original Message - From: Kelly Horst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 2:12 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Good Morning, I have just upgraded to Legacy 7.0 (Deluxe) and am trying to convert my Basic Sources. According to the User Manual the Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options Button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu. When I try to follow the directions above, there is no Source Template Conversion Tool listed in the submenu. I have already gone to the Options, Customize, Sources, tab and selected SourceWriter System under Source Entry System. I also performed a file maintenance/repair and also exited and restarted the program. When I open Am I missing the secret handshake needed to access this feature? Help! Kelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter
Kelly, The announcement of it's birth was somewhat premature, and it is now long overdue. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:12:08 -0700 Good Morning, I have just upgraded to Legacy 7.0 (Deluxe) and am trying to convert my Basic Sources. According to the User Manual the Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options Button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu. When I try to follow the directions above, there is no Source Template Conversion Tool listed in the submenu. I have already gone to the Options, Customize, Sources, tab and selected SourceWriter System under Source Entry System. I also performed a file maintenance/repair and also exited and restarted the program. When I open Am I missing the secret handshake needed to access this feature? Help! Kelly _ Get all your favourite content with the slick new MSN Toolbar - FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354027/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter
Kelly, The 4th paragraph of the following article gives some insight on this: http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2008/08/legacy-family-t.html Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com === From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Horst Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:12 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Good Morning, I have just upgraded to Legacy 7.0 (Deluxe) and am trying to convert my Basic Sources. According to the User Manual the Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options Button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu. When I try to follow the directions above, there is no Source Template Conversion Tool listed in the submenu. I have already gone to the Options, Customize, Sources, tab and selected SourceWriter System under Source Entry System. I also performed a file maintenance/repair and also exited and restarted the program. When I open Am I missing the secret handshake needed to access this feature? Help! Kelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter
Hi Kelly, It's not you - the conversion tool is not yet ready for us to use, despite the instructions indicating how to use it. ;-) Kind Regards, Wendy Howard -- Kaiwaka, Northland, New Zealand http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wendyh65/ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewendyh65/ - Original Message - *From:* Kelly Horst [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com *Sent:* 09/27/2008 6:12:08 AM +1200 *Subject:* [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Good Morning, I have just upgraded to Legacy 7.0 (Deluxe) and am trying to convert my Basic Sources. According to the User Manual the Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options Button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu. When I try to follow the directions above, there is no Source Template Conversion Tool listed in the submenu. I have already gone to the Options, Customize, Sources, tab and selected SourceWriter System under Source Entry System. I also performed a file maintenance/repair and also exited and restarted the program. When I open Am I missing the secret handshake needed to access this feature? Help! Kelly Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter
Kelly Horst wrote: Good Morning, I have just upgraded to Legacy 7.0 (Deluxe) and am trying to convert my Basic Sources. According to the User Manual the Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options Button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu. When I try to follow the directions above, there is no Source Template Conversion Tool listed in the submenu. I have already gone to the Options, Customize, Sources, tab and selected SourceWriter System under Source Entry System. I also performed a file maintenance/repair and also exited and restarted the program. When I open Am I missing the secret handshake needed to access this feature? Help! Kelly A good rule of thumb when joining any mailing list is to search the archives before asking a question. 90% of the time the question has been asked and answered and it will save you time in the long run. The conversion tool is not yet ready and will be released in a future update. No one knows when that may be and Millenia, wisely, is not saying. -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter
Tom Ron, Thanks for your quick responses. I was becoming quite frustrated trying to find that tool. Happy Hunting. Kelly Horst Seattle, Washington - Original Message - From: ronald fergusonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:23 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Kelly, The announcement of it's birth was somewhat premature, and it is now long overdue. Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.ukhttp://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:12:08 -0700 Good Morning, I have just upgraded to Legacy 7.0 (Deluxe) and am trying to convert my Basic Sources. According to the User Manual the Source Template Conversion Tool is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Options Button and then choosing Source Template Conversion Tool from the submenu. When I try to follow the directions above, there is no Source Template Conversion Tool listed in the submenu. I have already gone to the Options, Customize, Sources, tab and selected SourceWriter System under Source Entry System. I also performed a file maintenance/repair and also exited and restarted the program. When I open Am I missing the secret handshake needed to access this feature? Help! Kelly _ Get all your favourite content with the slick new MSN Toolbar - FREE http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354027/direct/01/http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354027/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytreecom/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter
With the SourceWriter, is there a way to eliminate n.p., n.d. etc that appear in source output for footnote/endnote and bibliography (preview and report) when you have elected to not fill in some of the fields in the source input screen, particularly with the generic ones. I presume n.p. = no publisher and n.d. = no date but I would prefer that they did not appear in the output. Judy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter
Judy, I wish I did, but I guess that is another of Mill's stipulations! Ron Ferguson _ *New* Insert Pictures Into your Web Pages - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:29:51 +1000 With the SourceWriter, is there a way to eliminate n.p., n.d. etc that appear in source output for footnote/endnote and bibliography (preview and report) when you have elected to not fill in some of the fields in the source input screen, particularly with the generic ones. I presume n.p. = no publisher and n.d. = no date but I would prefer that they did not appear in the output. Judy _ Win a voice over part with Kung Fu Panda Live Search and 100’s of Kung Fu Panda prizes to win with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571439/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] sourcewriter with dutch sources
I use Genlias for much of my Dutch ancestors. It has birth, marriage, and death records online. The text below is an example of a search. How would I use sourcewriter to do this? I'm changing over all my previous sources to sourcewriter so I can get everything standardized (Hopefully I'm going the right way about this!). * result: * (Groom) Source Civil register - Marriage Archive location Groninger Archieven General Municipality: Wildervank Type of record: Huwelijksakte Record number: 46 Registration date: 01-06-1907 Groom Samuel Doddema Place of birth: Muntendam Bride Jakoba Lamain Place of birth: Veendam Father groom Pieter Doddema Mother groom Jantje Doddema Father bride Jelis Lamain Mother bride Aaltje Kruidhof Additional information beroep bruidegom: arbeider; beroep bruid: dienstbode; beroep vader bruidegom.: arbeider; beroep vader bruid: arbeider; bruidegom 21 jaar; bruid 26 jaar Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcewriter with dutch sources
The following template works well for any kind of online database: Add a Generic Source Here Online Database Genlias certainly would fit into this category. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard Doddema Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 11:22 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcewriter with dutch sources I use Genlias for much of my Dutch ancestors. It has birth, marriage, and death records online. The text below is an example of a search. How would I use sourcewriter to do this? I'm changing over all my previous sources to sourcewriter so I can get everything standardized (Hopefully I'm going the right way about this!). result: (Groom) Source Civil register - Marriage Archive location Groninger Archieven General Municipality: Wildervank Type of record: Huwelijksakte Record number: 46 Registration date: 01-06-1907 Groom Samuel Doddema Place of birth: Muntendam Bride Jakoba Lamain Place of birth: Veendam Father groom Pieter Doddema Mother groom Jantje Doddema Father bride Jelis Lamain Mother bride Aaltje Kruidhof Additional information beroep bruidegom: arbeider; beroep bruid: dienstbode; beroep vader bruidegom.: arbeider; beroep vader bruid: arbeider; bruidegom 21 jaar; bruid 26 jaar Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - English BMD certificates
I returned from the Baltic cruise all enthused to begin entering my source data into Legacy 7, as I have never done this before, and am now persuaded it is important! I have masses of certificate copies filed away, but have never previously done more than enter the details into the Individual's Information template. I start with an 1837 marriage certificate. The sourcewriter (Step 1) takes me from Marriage Records through a 4-step sequence ending with (4) Select the type of Record, where I am offered a choice between a certificate from GRO (General Register Office), or a local Register Office. A copy certificate obtained from the GRO is a facsimile of the original certificate issued by the local Register Office. The actual piece of paper I have came from the GRO, but the original source is the local Register Office, and all the detail in it pertains to that office, and is a photo-facsimile of the original record. So what is the source? The local Register Office, the GRO, or my piece of paper? And where is the repository? Is it the local register office (the original), or the GRO (a copy), or my house (the piece of paper sent me by the GRO)? It's a little problem of concept and definition, and I would be grateful if a UK Legacy user who has already happily resolved this would put me straight. Great cruise - but no opportunity for hands-on practice that might have highlighted this question. Robin Macdonald Devon UK Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - English BMD certificates
One small point is that the reference for the GRO version is different from the reference for the Local Register Office. I found this out when I asked a Local Office for a certificate and gave the GRO reference. They had to look through over 50 Local Registers (lots of churches in the area) before they found the certificate. I would therefore suggest that type of record you use should depend upon the reference. John 2008/7/30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I returned from the Baltic cruise all enthused to begin entering my source data into Legacy 7, as I have never done this before, and am now persuaded it is important! I have masses of certificate copies filed away, but have never previously done more than enter the details into the *Individual's Information* template. I start with an 1837 marriage certificate. The sourcewriter (Step 1) takes me from Marriage Records through a 4-step sequence ending with (4) Select the type of Record, where I am offered a choice between a certificate from GRO (General Register Office), or a local Register Office. A copy certificate obtained from the GRO is a facsimile of the original certificate issued by the local Register Office. The actual piece of paper I have came from the GRO, but the original source is the local Register Office, and all the detail in it pertains to that office, and is a photo-facsimile of the original record. So what is the source? The local Register Office, the GRO, or my piece of paper? And where is the repository? Is it the local register office (the original), or the GRO (a copy), or my house (the piece of paper sent me by the GRO)? It's a little problem of concept and definition, and I would be grateful if a UK Legacy user who has already happily resolved this would put me straight. Great cruise - but no opportunity for hands-on practice that might have highlighted this question. Robin Macdonald Devon UK Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - English BMD certificates
wrote A copy certificate obtained from the GRO is a facsimile of the original certificate issued by the local Register Office. That is not quite true. The local Register Offices send copies of their data to the GRO (so there is always a small possibility of inaccuracy creeping in). The actual piece of paper I have came from the GRO, but the original source is the local Register Office, and all the detail in it pertains to that office, and is a photo-facsimile of the original record. So what is the source? The local Register Office, the GRO, or my piece of paper? The Source is the GRO because you are quoting information provided by the GRO. And where is the repository? Is it the local register office (the original), or I must confess, I use the Repository field very little but I think I would say that for GRO Certificates the Repository is the GRO at Southport and for LRO Certificates it is the LRO. Incidentally, on a related point, I often use the Birth, Marriage and Death Indexes as Sources, until such time as I can obtain Certificates. When I get the Certificate and use this as a Source, I leave the relevant Index citation in place so that anyone wishing to follow-up my research would have the relevant reference with which to obtain a Certificate. Please post in plain text only, as per LUG guidelines (see below.) -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - English BMD certificates
A copy certificate obtained from the GRO is a facsimile of the original certificate issued by the local Register Office. - No it is, at best, a facsimile of a transcribed copy. The GRO holds its own originals that were sent to it by the Local Register Office. There werent facsimile facilities in 1837. There can be differences between them in terms of content especially if the copy you receive is a newly created handwritten certificate because the GRO is unable to produce an electronic copy. Ditto for a Local Register Office where most copies are produced by transcribing from their original. The actual piece of paper I have came from the GRO, but the original source is the local Register Office, and all the detail in it pertains to that office, and is a photo-facsimile of the original record. - It is usually, but not always, a photo facsimile of the document held at the GRO. The original was created locally, but as above, it is not IDENTICAL to the local copy So what is the source? The local Register Office, the GRO, or my piece of paper? - I think that is an excellent question! The source of your copy was the GRO. But is the information on your copy identical in all ways to what the GRO holds? If you go to a library and transcribe a section from a library the source of your transcription is the document in the library. Somebody could go to the library and check that you did the transcription accurately. The same can be said for GRO photo certificates I suppose. But if they are handwritten then Im not so sure. Nobody can ever prove if you made a mistake when entering the data as your certificate is unique And where is the repository? Is it the local register office (the original), or the GRO (a copy), or my house (the piece of paper sent me by the GRO)? - I think this follows on from above and is a moot point. But a bit pedantic for a GRO issued certificate where else would you get it? To be honest I would quote the source as being a Birth Certificate or whatever issued by the GRO. But if it was transcribed by them I would add that into the detail. I do have a death certificate issued that way where the name of the informant was transcribed wrongly by the GRO and I spent months trying to find that niece of the deceased until I got the LRO to clarify the actual name. Remember that for Marriage certificates there can also be a third copy, the one in the parish register. It may look the same but again I have a copy where the information in the Fremington Parish Register is very different to the GRO copy (that says the groom was also a witness). The repository has to be where you got the copy from again with the caveat for handwritten copies. I seem to remember that when I got married I had to sign three actual certificates the parish register, the one for the local register office and the one that would go the GRO at the end of the quarter. It's a little problem of concept and definition, and I would be grateful if a UK Legacy user who has already happily resolved this would put me straight. I dont use these templates (yet), but it does worry me that something very pedantic is being created that changes the recording of information and how/where it was obtained into a red tape procedure akin to government forms where you have to fit the straightjacket of the system. Reminds me of The computer says no as per the Catherine Tate shows. Jack Earnshaw Also in Devon. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - English BMD certificates
Jenny wrote : Incidentally, on a related point, I often use the Birth, Marriage and Death Indexes as Sources, until such time as I can obtain Certificates. When I get the Certificate and use this as a Source, I leave the relevant Index citation in place so that anyone wishing to follow-up my research would have the relevant reference with which to obtain a Certificate. I always maintain that information as well as it is really the source for obtaining the certificate. Without it there is an extra step before a later researcher could verify your findings. Especially if the index has mistakes! I recently ordered a marriage certificate where the volume quoted on the bride's entry was different to that for the groom. Without holding and explaining the index data then it might be hard to obtain a later certificate. Incidentally, is the GRO interested in being told about errors in the index? This is another interesting point about sourcing though. In the good old days you went to Myddleton Street (or its predecessors) and wrote down what you found in the big index books. That is now impossible and you have to search on FreeBMD, Ancestry, FindMyPast etc. (Or use the microfiche copies held at various record offices or at Kew). All have electronic images copied from the GRO index books. So what is the source? GRO, FreeBMD, Ancestry, FindMyPast? Jack Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - English BMD certificates
I think the straight answer to the question is that if your certificate comes from the GRO then the GRO is the Source, and the Repository; if it comes from your Local Register Office then that is the Source, and that is the Repository. I record the Source and Repository simply as a reminder of where I got the certificate from. The essential information to record is the GRO reference ie. 1886S, West Bromwich, vol 6b, page 1202. That is what will enable you (or anyone else) to easily obtain a copy. I don't think there is a simple answer to the question of what is the original of a marriage certificate, because at the time of the ceremony the details are recorded three times. Take your pick. One is the certificate given to the happy couple, and two registers are filled in by the Minister. Pat Molloy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - English BMD certificates
Jack Earnshaw wrote Incidentally, is the GRO interested in being told about errors in the index? If it is an error in the Index, I don't know! If it is an error in the transcription of the Index then FreeBMD are happy to be informed and will correct it on confirmation, Ancestry may or may not bother and I don't know about FMP. This is another interesting point about sourcing though. In the good old days you went to Myddleton Street (or its predecessors) and wrote down what you found in the big index books. That is now impossible and you have to search on FreeBMD, Ancestry, FindMyPast etc. (Or use the microfiche copies held at various record offices or at Kew). All have electronic images copied from the GRO index books. So what is the source? GRO, FreeBMD, Ancestry, FindMyPast? I have separate Master Sources for GRO Index - FreeBMD and GRO Index - Ancestry. The new templates are set up for this and having entered all the details relating to, for example, FreeBMD there is then a field named Credit Line already filled in for you with the words citing the General Register Office's England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. I think if you have looked at the digital image of the Index on the site you are using you may then tick the Verified box, but not, of course, if you have looked at a transcription only. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter- Book, authored, basic - field selection
Jess. Please see below. Ron Ferguson _ Update your British Prime Ministers Timeline - Blogs http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:43:41 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter- Book, authored, basic - field selection I am populating my master source list with some sources I will be using in the very near future. I am specifically using the Book, Authored Author Known Basic Format. When I move to Step 2, which is entering the data in the fields, I'm having trouble tabbing from field to field properly. I would think that upon moving to this screen the first box would be toggled on, however I find I'm having to mouse cursor into it every single time. Confirmed - the mouse has to be used to set the first box to on Everything runs smooth from that point on, until I get to the Record Date box. When tabbing you would expect the next tab sequence in the dialog box to be, at some point, the Record Date box. However, if I choose to add data to this field, as well as the File ID box, I *must* mouse to it to activate and key into it. --- Is this done on purpose? Haven't a clue whether or not it is on purpose but it is clearly not part of the dialogue box so one can never use tabbing to get to it. Also, I've added seven sources, all using this very same template. It appears that on my eighth entry I inadvertently selected Book, Authored (reprint) and I shouldn't have. --- Is there not a way to convert from the reprint to regular book authored? I've found no where that shows me, tells me, or points me to being able to convert it from one source type to another once it's been saved. Am I missing something? I wouldn't have thought so, can you merge the reprint into the regular? It would do it for every usage of the reprint source Oh, and wasn't it discussed on the LUG some weeks ago that the scroll bar showing further choices in the SourceWriter templates was to be, and subsequently done, changed so that you would see it and know there were further options? I did not realize there were further fields to include data in until I hit tab and it went to a field I wasn't expecting! It was discussed and it was said that something had been done to highlight extra choices but I suspect that this might have applied only to the templates discussed. BTW I don't use this template, but would be interested to know if in reports ibid works. Thanks in advance, I am using 7.0.0.53 Jess M _ The John Lewis Clearance - save up to 50% with FREE delivery http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719806/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter- Book, authored, basic - field selection
Also, I've added seven sources, all using this very same template. It appears that on my eighth entry I inadvertently selected Book, Authored (reprint) and I shouldn't have. --- Is there not a way to convert from the reprint to regular book authored? I've found no where that shows me, tells me, or points me to being able to convert it from one source type to another once it's been saved. Am I missing something? I wouldn't have thought so, can you merge the reprint into the regular? It would do it for every usage of the reprint source Thanks Ron! It appears that I am going to have to re-create the source from scatch at this point, and merge the two together. My question was posed on the hopes that I wouldn't have to go through the entire process again, and then add the step of merging the sources to get rid of the accidental one. --- Luckily for me it is a very short source in that I have minimal data to load on it. --- I also am beginning to think that the change in colors for sliding rules were done in specific templates, and not all. -- It will be interesting to see if any of the Legacy support staff chime in on this one. --- And a suggestion for later enhancement for us tabbers out there that rarely use a mouse during data entry... having that option for *all* fields on a dialog box would be absolutely fabulous! Not sure on the ibid, Ron. I haven't gotten to the point of actually printing reports and using the sources. My methodology right now is inputting all my known sources I will use for a specific project before I input individuals, so that they are set up and ready to go from the master source list. -- Of course I've only been doing genealogy for about a year now, and am currently inputting hardcopy work of other family individuals (volumes handed down in the family) that I can work from. I source the volume it comes from, and then subsource the sources, endnotes, footnotes, references, etc. they used. That way I can easily print out lists and reports of what and where their information came from, so when I get to the point of actual research I will have a starting point. Thanks so much, Jessica Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:43:41 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter- Book, authored, basic - field selection I am populating my master source list with some sources I will be using in the very near future. I am specifically using the Book, Authored Author Known Basic Format. When I move to Step 2, which is entering the data in the fields, I'm having trouble tabbing from field to field properly. I would think that upon moving to this screen the first box would be toggled on, however I find I'm having to mouse cursor into it every single time. Confirmed - the mouse has to be used to set the first box to on Everything runs smooth from that point on, until I get to the Record Date box. When tabbing you would expect the next tab sequence in the dialog box to be, at some point, the Record Date box. However, if I choose to add data to this field, as well as the File ID box, I *must* mouse to it to activate and key into it. --- Is this done on purpose? Haven't a clue whether or not it is on purpose but it is clearly not part of the dialogue box so one can never use tabbing to get to it. Also, I've added seven sources, all using this very same template. It appears that on my eighth entry I inadvertently selected Book, Authored (reprint) and I shouldn't have. --- Is there not a way to convert from the reprint to regular book authored? I've found no where that shows me, tells me, or points me to being able to convert it from one source type to another once it's been saved. Am I missing something? I wouldn't have thought so, can you merge the reprint into the regular? It would do it for every usage of the reprint source Oh, and wasn't it discussed on the LUG some weeks ago that the scroll bar showing further choices in the SourceWriter templates was to be, and subsequently done, changed so that you would see it and know there were further options? I did not realize there were further fields to include data in until I hit tab and it went to a field I wasn't expecting! It was discussed and it was said that something had been done to highlight extra choices but I suspect that this might have applied only to the templates discussed. BTW I don't use this template, but would be interested to know if in reports ibid works. Thanks in advance, I am using 7.0.0.53 Jess M _ The John Lewis Clearance - save up to 50% with FREE delivery http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/101719806/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter- Book, authored, basic - field selection
I don't know if this will help you or not, but there are bookmarks in the SourceWriter so if there are a few templates you use regularly you can bookmark them so you select the correct one in the future rather than scrolling through your choices (it is mentioned in the manual at pages 58-59). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jessica Morgan Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:00 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter- Book, authored, basic - field selection Also, I've added seven sources, all using this very same template. It appears that on my eighth entry I inadvertently selected Book, Authored (reprint) and I shouldn't have. --- Is there not a way to convert from the reprint to regular book authored? I've found no where that shows me, tells me, or points me to being able to convert it from one source type to another once it's been saved. Am I missing something? I wouldn't have thought so, can you merge the reprint into the regular? It would do it for every usage of the reprint source Thanks Ron! It appears that I am going to have to re-create the source from scatch at this point, and merge the two together. My question was posed on the hopes that I wouldn't have to go through the entire process again, and then add the step of merging the sources to get rid of the accidental one. --- Luckily for me it is a very short source in that I have minimal data to load on it. --- I also am beginning to think that the change in colors for sliding rules were done in specific templates, and not all. -- It will be interesting to see if any of the Legacy support staff chime in on this one. --- And a suggestion for later enhancement for us tabbers out there that rarely use a mouse during data entry... having that option for *all* fields on a dialog box would be absolutely fabulous! Not sure on the ibid, Ron. I haven't gotten to the point of actually printing reports and using the sources. My methodology right now is inputting all my known sources I will use for a specific project before I input individuals, so that they are set up and ready to go from the master source list. -- Of course I've only been doing genealogy for about a year now, and am currently inputting hardcopy work of other family individuals (volumes handed down in the family) that I can work from. I source the volume it comes from, and then subsource the sources, endnotes, footnotes, references, etc. they used. That way I can easily print out lists and reports of what and where their information came from, so when I get to the point of actual research I will have a starting point. Thanks so much, Jessica Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:43:41 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter- Book, authored, basic - field selection I am populating my master source list with some sources I will be using in the very near future. I am specifically using the Book, Authored Author Known Basic Format. When I move to Step 2, which is entering the data in the fields, I'm having trouble tabbing from field to field properly. I would think that upon moving to this screen the first box would be toggled on, however I find I'm having to mouse cursor into it every single time. Confirmed - the mouse has to be used to set the first box to on Everything runs smooth from that point on, until I get to the Record Date box. When tabbing you would expect the next tab sequence in the dialog box to be, at some point, the Record Date box. However, if I choose to add data to this field, as well as the File ID box, I *must* mouse to it to activate and key into it. --- Is this done on purpose? Haven't a clue whether or not it is on purpose but it is clearly not part of the dialogue box so one can never use tabbing to get to it. Also, I've added seven sources, all using this very same template. It appears that on my eighth entry I inadvertently selected Book, Authored (reprint) and I shouldn't have. --- Is there not a way to convert from the reprint to regular book authored? I've found no where that shows me, tells me, or points me to being able to convert it from one source type to another once it's been saved. Am I missing something? I wouldn't have thought so, can you merge the reprint into the regular? It would do it for every usage of the reprint source Oh, and wasn't it discussed on the LUG some weeks ago that the scroll bar showing further choices in the SourceWriter templates was to be, and subsequently done, changed so that you would see it and know there were further options? I did not realize there were further fields to include data in until I hit tab and it went to a field I wasn't expecting! It was discussed and it was said that something had been done to highlight extra choices but I suspect that this might have applied only
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter- Book, authored, basic - field selection
Warning!! If you do not attach a source to a person, they can be typed over and/or lost. If needed, create a person named dummy to attach them to until you are ready to attach to people. Rich in LA CA --- Jessica Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am populating my master source list with some sources I will be using in the very near future. I am specifically using the Book, Authored Author Known Basic Format. When I move to Step 2, which is entering the data in the fields, I'm having trouble tabbing from field to field properly. I would think that upon moving to this screen the first box would be toggled on, however I find I'm having to mouse cursor into it every single time. Everything runs smooth from that point on, until I get to the Record Date box. When tabbing you would expect the next tab sequence in the dialog box to be, at some point, the Record Date box. However, if I choose to add data to this field, as well as the File ID box, I *must* mouse to it to activate and key into it. --- Is this done on purpose? Also, I've added seven sources, all using this very same template. It appears that on my eighth entry I inadvertently selected Book, Authored (reprint) and I shouldn't have. --- Is there not a way to convert from the reprint to regular book authored? I've found no where that shows me, tells me, or points me to being able to convert it from one source type to another once it's been saved. Am I missing something? Oh, and wasn't it discussed on the LUG some weeks ago that the scroll bar showing further choices in the SourceWriter templates was to be, and subsequently done, changed so that you would see it and know there were further options? I did not realize there were further fields to include data in until I hit tab and it went to a field I wasn't expecting! Thanks in advance, I am using 7.0.0.53 Jess M Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter options
I see a lot of questions to this group which indicate to me that many users are hung up on the literal titles of the various source templates. After experimenting with SourceWriter for a while, it seems to me that it is quite flexible and that many templates can be adapted for sources other than those specified in their titles. Some examples: 1. Some time ago someone noted that while there is a template for Birth Records index, there is none for Death Records index. I used the Birth Records index template and just titled it California Death Index. The printed citation reads just fine and doesn't reference birth anywhere. 2. A request was made for a way to make a Master Source for an on-going correspondence and to cite an individual letter or e-mail in the Detail. Since this is the way I like to source, (e.g. Master: Smith Correspondence; Detail: e-mail to J. S. Adams dated 29 Jun 2008) I tried various approaches and found that by judicious use of the available fields I could produce acceptable citations (although perhaps not in strict accordance with Mills' examples) using either the single e-mail template or the Artifact template. I think the Letters template could also work. 3. A recent discussion concerned how to cite government employment records. There a several templates which could probably be adapted. I tried the School Records template and that seemed as though it would work. Other templates that might work are Insurance Company Records, Military RecordsPension Files, or Railroad Records. 4. Government Land Office Records. See my posting today re: Cash Entry Files. I think the Artifact template could be adapted for any collection of documents, letters, photos, etc. My point is that SourceWriter is flexible. If you experiment, you can probably find a template that will work for that unique or unusual source you want to cite. The title of the template usually doesn't show up in the printed citation. I'd like to hear others' opinions on this. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter options
John, I think I realized that I probably could make other things work, but I also figured that if there was a template specifically designed for the particular information and format, I'd rather use that. Also, it usually helps to understand the thinking behind how certain options are chosen. (for example, it was helpful for me to understand that state land probably just meant the GLO office located in a particular state rather than a state government land office) So then rather than floundering around tweaking things and maybe using different options each time, I'd rather understand the logic behind the options available so that I can make the best use of the design of the SourceWriter. I do have Evidence Explained and that helps immensely as to seeing the general categories and understanding the logic behind those categories. Just as someone tried to enter an unidentified and undated newspaper into the newspaper selection rather than in to artifacts as EE shows. You're presented with options you don't know what to do with if you've not chosen the option that most closely aligns with EE and by extension Legacy SourceWriter. It's much easier in the long run to understand and then choose the option designed for the specific purpose. Patti On Jun 29, 2008, at 3:42 PM, John S. Adams wrote: I see a lot of questions to this group which indicate to me that many users are hung up on the literal titles of the various source templates. After experimenting with SourceWriter for a while, it seems to me that it is quite flexible and that many templates can be adapted for sources other than those specified in their titles. Some examples: 1. Some time ago someone noted that while there is a template for Birth Records index, there is none for Death Records index. I used the Birth Records index template and just titled it California Death Index. The printed citation reads just fine and doesn't reference birth anywhere. 2. A request was made for a way to make a Master Source for an on- going correspondence and to cite an individual letter or e-mail in the Detail. Since this is the way I like to source, (e.g. Master: Smith Correspondence; Detail: e-mail to J. S. Adams dated 29 Jun 2008) I tried various approaches and found that by judicious use of the available fields I could produce acceptable citations (although perhaps not in strict accordance with Mills' examples) using either the single e-mail template or the Artifact template. I think the Letters template could also work. 3. A recent discussion concerned how to cite government employment records. There a several templates which could probably be adapted. I tried the School Records template and that seemed as though it would work. Other templates that might work are Insurance Company Records, Military RecordsPension Files, or Railroad Records. 4. Government Land Office Records. See my posting today re: Cash Entry Files. I think the Artifact template could be adapted for any collection of documents, letters, photos, etc. My point is that SourceWriter is flexible. If you experiment, you can probably find a template that will work for that unique or unusual source you want to cite. The title of the template usually doesn't show up in the printed citation. I'd like to hear others' opinions on this. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter options
Patti, I certainly agree that it is much easier to use a template designed for the particular source at hand. But my point is, if the available templates don't seem to match, a little exploring and tweaking may produce acceptable results without adding interminably to the Legacy wish list. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA From: Patti Hobbs Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 2:26 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter options John, I think I realized that I probably could make other things work, but I also figured that if there was a template specifically designed for the particular information and format, I'd rather use that. Also, it usually helps to understand the thinking behind how certain options are chosen. (for example, it was helpful for me to understand that state land probably just meant the GLO office located in a particular state rather than a state government land office) So then rather than floundering around tweaking things and maybe using different options each time, I'd rather understand the logic behind the options available so that I can make the best use of the design of the SourceWriter. I do have Evidence Explained and that helps immensely as to seeing the general categories and understanding the logic behind those categories. Just as someone tried to enter an unidentified and undated newspaper into the newspaper selection rather than in to artifacts as EE shows. You're presented with options you don't know what to do with if you've not chosen the option that most closely aligns with EE and by extension Legacy SourceWriter. It's much easier in the long run to understand and then choose the option designed for the specific purpose. Patti Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter options
John S. Adams wrote My point is that SourceWriter is flexible. If you experiment, you can probably find a template that will work for that unique or unusual source you want to cite. The title of the template usually doesn't show up in the printed citation. I'd like to hear others' opinions on this. Funnily enough I had it half in mind to send a similar message myself to-day! It's amazing how many variations on the templates there are with all the options for origin, type etc. The search function can be quite useful to find the template you need, but you needn't get too hung up on actual titles. I you want a citation to come out exactly as the Goddess of Sourcing has it, it's not too difficult to work out which wording needs to go in which fields and which fields you just ignore altogether. Here is just one example: sourcing the British Vital Records Index on CD I am using the template Church recordsLDS Genealogical CompilationsInternational Genealogical IndexCD/DVD Edition. When it comes to putting the Details in I just ignore the fields for Region, Item No, Title of Film, Batch Number and Reference and Reference Number. Apart from the fact that the Location fields are missing (which Geoff knows about) this works fine. ESM would be proud of me! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter options
Oh, John, I wasn't trying to do that. I figured there was something I didn't understand or I was missing. Patti On Jun 29, 2008, at 5:16 PM, John S. Adams wrote: Patti, I certainly agree that it is much easier to use a template designed for the particular source at hand. But my point is, if the available templates don't seem to match, a little exploring and tweaking may produce acceptable results without adding interminably to the Legacy wish list. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter options
I'm glad you said that, John. I'm one who is apt to get a little hung up on literal titles. :) It's good to encourage folks like me to experiment and to not dither about too much over which template was intended to be used - so long as the template I do use works well. Thanks for the reminder nudge! Penny - Original Message - From: John S. Adams To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter options I see a lot of questions to this group which indicate to me that many users are hung up on the literal titles of the various source templates. After experimenting with SourceWriter for a while, it seems to me that it is quite flexible and that many templates can be adapted for sources other than those specified in their titles. Some examples: 1. Some time ago someone noted that while there is a template for Birth Records index, there is none for Death Records index. I used the Birth Records index template and just titled it California Death Index. The printed citation reads just fine and doesn't reference birth anywhere. 2. A request was made for a way to make a Master Source for an on-going correspondence and to cite an individual letter or e-mail in the Detail. Since this is the way I like to source, (e.g. Master: Smith Correspondence; Detail: e-mail to J. S. Adams dated 29 Jun 2008) I tried various approaches and found that by judicious use of the available fields I could produce acceptable citations (although perhaps not in strict accordance with Mills' examples) using either the single e-mail template or the Artifact template. I think the Letters template could also work. 3. A recent discussion concerned how to cite government employment records. There a several templates which could probably be adapted. I tried the School Records template and that seemed as though it would work. Other templates that might work are Insurance Company Records, Military RecordsPension Files, or Railroad Records. 4. Government Land Office Records. See my posting today re: Cash Entry Files. I think the Artifact template could be adapted for any collection of documents, letters, photos, etc. My point is that SourceWriter is flexible. If you experiment, you can probably find a template that will work for that unique or unusual source you want to cite. The title of the template usually doesn't show up in the printed citation. I'd like to hear others' opinions on this. John S. Adams Hermosa Beach, CA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.101 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1524 - Release Date: 6/28/2008 7:42 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - INTERVIEWS
Elizabeth Richardson wrote No, first of all, the option is audio/video (not visual), It must be getting towards time for me to get new glasses! -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - INTERVIEWS
When you select the interview option in the Sourcewriter there are only two options, audio/visual and transcripts. What about face to face interviews, telephone interviews and email? How do you enter those? michele Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - INTERVIEWS
Michele Lewis wrote When you select the interview option in the Sourcewriter there are only two options, audio/visual and transcripts. What about face to face interviews, telephone interviews and email? How do you enter those? Face-to-face *is* Visual, isn't it?! And Audio just means over the telephone or something. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - INTERVIEWS
No, first of all, the option is audio/video (not visual), which means recorded. I would think the information gleaned from a face to face meeting would be something more like Personal Knowledge of the individual providing the information. I think Geoff said they would be adding templates, perhaps this is an area they will be addressing. Since I haven't seen EE, it's also possible Ms Mills didn't address the possibility that research might include discussing the subject with actual people and she doesn't have a format for this situation. And, if I may insert here, just because the Source Writer is available, doesn't mean you're stuck using it. Perhaps there are just some sources which don't fit it well, and you could simply use the old format to record your information. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - INTERVIEWS Michele Lewis wrote When you select the interview option in the Sourcewriter there are only two options, audio/visual and transcripts. What about face to face interviews, telephone interviews and email? How do you enter those? Face-to-face *is* Visual, isn't it?! And Audio just means over the telephone or something. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - INTERVIEWS
Following steps in the SourceWriter and comparing it with Evidence Explained, you get the fields for an oral interview by first going to artifacts and then selecting privately held. Here is an example of a citation she gives: 1. Ardell Graham (212 East Sale, Tuscola, IL 61953), interview by Helen E. Brieske, 14 April 1993; transcript privately held by Brieske, [address for private use,] Salida, Colorado, 2006. Ardell, a son of Tillie, spoke from personal knowledge when he related her death. Patti On Jun 27, 2008, at 5:21 PM, Elizabeth Richardson wrote: No, first of all, the option is audio/video (not visual), which means recorded. I would think the information gleaned from a face to face meeting would be something more like Personal Knowledge of the individual providing the information. I think Geoff said they would be adding templates, perhaps this is an area they will be addressing. Since I haven't seen EE, it's also possible Ms Mills didn't address the possibility that research might include discussing the subject with actual people and she doesn't have a format for this situation. And, if I may insert here, just because the Source Writer is available, doesn't mean you're stuck using it. Perhaps there are just some sources which don't fit it well, and you could simply use the old format to record your information. Elizabeth researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson - Original Message - From: Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - INTERVIEWS Michele Lewis wrote When you select the interview option in the Sourcewriter there are only two options, audio/visual and transcripts. What about face to face interviews, telephone interviews and email? How do you enter those? Face-to-face *is* Visual, isn't it?! And Audio just means over the telephone or something. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail
When using the SourceWriter to create a citation for an e-mail there are fields for entering the details of the sender, the recipient and the e-mail itself. When you move to the Source Details screen, there are NO fields for Detail Information, other than Surety Level, Recorded Date and File ID. This means that one must create a new Master Source for every single e-mail one wishes to record. NO! NO! NO! that is taking splitting to the nth degree and I refuse! I've just checked out the template for Letters and I see that is the same. I haven't looked at all the templates by any means yet, but I know that several of them have full Detail Information screens which allow for one Master Source and many Details so I can't imagine why the E-mail and Letter (and other?) templates are like this. I will definitely have to revert to Basic Source System for correspondence if we can't have the option to use SourceWriter in lumping fashion and that will be a real PITA. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail
Jenny, Let's talk about it then. Elizabeth Mills has certainly provided the researcher with flexibility to split or lump. What specific fields would you want to be included with the master source? After deciding that, we'd need to then come up with a simple, understandable source type name for the organizational hierarchy of the selections in step 1 of the SourceWriter. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail When using the SourceWriter to create a citation for an e-mail there are fields for entering the details of the sender, the recipient and the e-mail itself. When you move to the Source Details screen, there are NO fields for Detail Information, other than Surety Level, Recorded Date and File ID. This means that one must create a new Master Source for every single e-mail one wishes to record. NO! NO! NO! that is taking splitting to the nth degree and I refuse! I've just checked out the template for Letters and I see that is the same. I haven't looked at all the templates by any means yet, but I know that several of them have full Detail Information screens which allow for one Master Source and many Details so I can't imagine why the E-mail and Letter (and other?) templates are like this. I will definitely have to revert to Basic Source System for correspondence if we can't have the option to use SourceWriter in lumping fashion and that will be a real PITA. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail
I agree with Jenny. I have a Master Source for EACH individual I have corresponded with. Of my 202 Master Sources, 80 are with individuals. Several of those individuals have 40 or more Source Detail records! (working on reports for a family reunion). Personally, I don't (think) I need more than the persons name (but am open to other suggestions). My Source Details include Emails, Phone conversations, and Personal interviews, all under one Master Source per person. If necessary, I would be willing to accept a different Master Source for each type of conversation with each individual (but like having them all together). Thanks for your consideration. Bruce On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Geoff Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jenny, Let's talk about it then. Elizabeth Mills has certainly provided the researcher with flexibility to split or lump. What specific fields would you want to be included with the master source? After deciding that, we'd need to then come up with a simple, understandable source type name for the organizational hierarchy of the selections in step 1 of the SourceWriter. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail When using the SourceWriter to create a citation for an e-mail there are fields for entering the details of the sender, the recipient and the e-mail itself. When you move to the Source Details screen, there are NO fields for Detail Information, other than Surety Level, Recorded Date and File ID. This means that one must create a new Master Source for every single e-mail one wishes to record. NO! NO! NO! that is taking splitting to the nth degree and I refuse! I've just checked out the template for Letters and I see that is the same. I haven't looked at all the templates by any means yet, but I know that several of them have full Detail Information screens which allow for one Master Source and many Details so I can't imagine why the E-mail and Letter (and other?) templates are like this. I will definitely have to revert to Basic Source System for correspondence if we can't have the option to use SourceWriter in lumping fashion and that will be a real PITA. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail
Likewise. The only other thing I would consistently add (somewhere) to an individual as a Master Source is the fact that the record (whether letter, e-mail, gedcom, interview notes, or whatever), is privately held with my own family papers--but this is not to say that I'd want to specify the Type at the Master Source level. Kirsten -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bruce Jones Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:20 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail I agree with Jenny. I have a Master Source for EACH individual I have corresponded with. Of my 202 Master Sources, 80 are with individuals. Several of those individuals have 40 or more Source Detail records! (working on reports for a family reunion). Personally, I don't (think) I need more than the persons name (but am open to other suggestions). My Source Details include Emails, Phone conversations, and Personal interviews, all under one Master Source per person. If necessary, I would be willing to accept a different Master Source for each type of conversation with each individual (but like having them all together). Thanks for your consideration. Bruce On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Geoff Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jenny, Let's talk about it then. Elizabeth Mills has certainly provided the researcher with flexibility to split or lump. What specific fields would you want to be included with the master source? After deciding that, we'd need to then come up with a simple, understandable source type name for the organizational hierarchy of the selections in step 1 of the SourceWriter. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail When using the SourceWriter to create a citation for an e-mail there are fields for entering the details of the sender, the recipient and the e-mail itself. When you move to the Source Details screen, there are NO fields for Detail Information, other than Surety Level, Recorded Date and File ID. This means that one must create a new Master Source for every single e-mail one wishes to record. NO! NO! NO! that is taking splitting to the nth degree and I refuse! I've just checked out the template for Letters and I see that is the same. I haven't looked at all the templates by any means yet, but I know that several of them have full Detail Information screens which allow for one Master Source and many Details so I can't imagine why the E-mail and Letter (and other?) templates are like this. I will definitely have to revert to Basic Source System for correspondence if we can't have the option to use SourceWriter in lumping fashion and that will be a real PITA. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail
This is how I do it, too. The master source is the person and the details indicate phone, email, etc. Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 12:19:35 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail I agree with Jenny. I have a Master Source for EACH individual I have corresponded with. Of my 202 Master Sources, 80 are with individuals. Several of those individuals have 40 or more Source Detail records! (working on reports for a family reunion). Personally, I don't (think) I need more than the persons name (but am open to other suggestions). My Source Details include Emails, Phone conversations, and Personal interviews, all under one Master Source per person. If necessary, I would be willing to accept a different Master Source for each type of conversation with each individual (but like having them all together). Thanks for your consideration. Bruce On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Geoff Rasmussen wrote: Jenny, Let's talk about it then. Elizabeth Mills has certainly provided the researcher with flexibility to split or lump. What specific fields would you want to be included with the master source? After deciding that, we'd need to then come up with a simple, understandable source type name for the organizational hierarchy of the selections in step 1 of the SourceWriter. Thanks, Geoff Rasmussen Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LegacyFamilyTree.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenny M Benson Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:24 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] SourceWriter: E-mail When using the SourceWriter to create a citation for an e-mail there are fields for entering the details of the sender, the recipient and the e-mail itself. When you move to the Source Details screen, there are NO fields for Detail Information, other than Surety Level, Recorded Date and File ID. This means that one must create a new Master Source for every single e-mail one wishes to record. NO! NO! NO! that is taking splitting to the nth degree and I refuse! I've just checked out the template for Letters and I see that is the same. I haven't looked at all the templates by any means yet, but I know that several of them have full Detail Information screens which allow for one Master Source and many Details so I can't imagine why the E-mail and Letter (and other?) templates are like this. I will definitely have to revert to Basic Source System for correspondence if we can't have the option to use SourceWriter in lumping fashion and that will be a real PITA. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ The i’m Talkathon starts 6/24/08. For now, give amongst yourselves. http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
