Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
Hi all,
First I want to thank everybody for the time & effort,
( although some responses show,
some guys did NOT spend enough time reading my problem all the way {:< )
Since no one gave me a good answer,
(except for Muli's, which was my idea to begin with)
I tried to look for the way install-disc does it in rescue mode, BUT
I never before read Python code.
So I am guessing /usr/lib/anaconda/partitioning.py, is responsible for that.
Anyone cares to check it ?
PS
no need to CC me in person, I'm on the list, & it floods my mailbox.
TIA.
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Re: Hebrew with mutt
Nadav Har'El <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [17/02/03 22:14]: > On Sun, Feb 16, 2003, Eli Segal wrote about "Hebrew with mutt": > > What Are my option to be able to read and write with mutt client ?? > > Here is what I use in my ~/.muttrc. Yes, I know some of these options (in > particular 'charset') may be the "wrong" options to use, but it works... > > # This character set is used on outgoing mail when it contains non-ascii > # characters. > set charset="iso-8859-8-i" > > # use external pager, and don't prompt after it! > set noprompt_after > set pager="bidi_pager" > > Where bidi_pager is the following small script: > > #!/bin/sh > # I use this as mutt's pager > exec bidiv "$@" | less -c > This way you lose color. If you use vim, why not exec bidiv "$@" | less.sh +"set ft=mail" - (less.sh is in $VIMRUNTIME/macros). I wonder, though, if there is a way to make mutt read commands from vim (so that one can reply etc. from within vim). > (see http://ftp.ivrix.org.il/pub/ivrix/src/cmdline/ for bidiv - or if you > use Debian, just fetch the "bidiv" package). > > This setup will send Hebrew mail as iso-8859-8-i, and will be able to read > Hebrew mail in either iso-8859-8-i (or the equivalent Windows encoding) or > UTF8. To actually *edit* Hebrew mail, you'll need to set up your editor > accordingly; I use vim, with macros to switch direction and language - > something like > > export VIMINIT='map! ESC[24~ ESC:set invhk invrl^Ma > map ESC[24~ :set invhk invrl' > (replace ESC by the actual ESCAPE character). > > > -- > Nadav Har'El| Sunday, Feb 16 2003, 14 Adar I 5763 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- > Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |"A mathematician is a device for turning > http://nadav.harel.org.il |coffee into theorems" -- P. Erdos > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FM radio on Flyvideo 2000
Hi, At first, this may look like it's off-topic, but since the hardware is OK and works in Windows, this is definitely a LINUX problem. About a month ago, someone on the list (sorry I don't remember who) helped solve my problem with the Flyvideo 2000 card by suggesting that I connect the audio signal from the VCR I'm using as a video source directly to the line-input on my sound card (bypassing the TV card).That solved my problem and I can now **hear** TV and not just see it. But, I still have a problem with the FM radio component of the TV card. I'm quite sure that everything is installed correctly (and it does work if I boot Windows, so the hardware is OK). Obviously, since the line-input on the sound card is connected to the audio output of the VCR, I had to disconnect that wire and hook the TV/radio card audio output to the soundcard audio line-input. But that doesn't work (just as it didn't work for the TV). Any ideas? TIA -- Shlomo Solomon http://come.to/shlomo.solomon Sent by KMail (KDE 3.0.5a) on LINUX Mandrake 9.0 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 05:49:26PM +0200, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 05:48:07PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: > > > Note, by the way, that newer distributions (such as Redhat 8) use Grub, > > not LILO, so anything relying on the structure of a lilo boot record > > isn't foolproof either. > > I never investigated this, so take it with a grain of salt, but I > believe that the boot record structure is standardized and even *gasp* > documented. Actually, the opposite is true; in all native linux file systems, the first block (which is reserved for a boot record) is completely unused. Sorry for replying to 2 messages at once, but this is also in reply to a message of Arik Baratz: make a simple test: make some file # dd if=/dev/zero of=test1 bs=100k count=1 create a DOS filesystem on it (which does use the boot record as a superblock) # mkdosfs test1 Then create on it an ext2 file system # mke2fs test1 (reply 'y' to 'test1 is not a block special device. Proceed anyway?') then try to loopback mount it # mkdir test1.d # mount -o loop test1 test1.d Then check how it was mounted # mount | grep test1.d and you'll see that it was (wrongly!) recognized and mounted as FAT (probably vfat). Also file(1) will say it's FAT. However, # mount -o loop -t ext2 test1 test1.d will also work! I did not go deeply into the layouts of both, but there is clearly no collision with empty FSes (at least in the sizes I tried). In practice, it happened to me quite many times that a used FAT partition was mke2fsed, used (as ext2), and then mounted as FAT without any errors, by both Linux and Windows, and in almost all cases it looked empty as FAT. I can also say a very similar scenario is possible with NTFS reformatted as ext2. Conclusions: 1. You can't guess the type of a filesystem by looking at its beginning. You have to try to mount it, and in some cases, think quite a lot before deciding. 2. If you intend to reformat a used FAT partition as ext2, make sure you manually empty the first block (e.g. with dd), or you risk having Windows try to do bad things to it when mounting/checking it (unless it won't ever see windows again and you mount it only from fstab where you write its type manually). > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: policy routing question
gk>> and where is the definition of your 'adsl' routing table? there is no If you mean for 'symbol' adsl - it's in /etc/iproute2/rt_tables. gk>> 'adsl routing table' by default. perhaps you forgot to add 'adsl' gk>> somewhere in the 'ip ro add' command? something like: gk>> gk>> ip ro add default table adsl via PPP-host dev ppp0 Yes, that's what I did. I mean, I did not forget - this is the command I used to set "conditional" default route. That's why packets went through ppp0 and not through "global" default. The problem is that the packets going "in" don't work as intended, only ones going "out". gk>> ofcourse it does - after all, your default route for the default routing gk>> table is set to go via ppp0 - thus, _All_ your traffic will be going out No, it is not. The global default route is through eth0. Sorry for forgetting to mention it. gk>> via that interface. this, while the incoming data is defined to go gk>> according to routing table 'adsl', which was not defined. It is defined. That's why the packets go "out" through ppp0 - otherwise they would go out through eth0 - just as other ones which do not match firewall mark rule. I wish it was as simple as that... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-50-624945/\ JRRT LotR. whois:!SM8333 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bork, Bork, Bork!
IA>> Chillisoft attempted that (non-free), but the real answer comes from the IA>> industry itself, statistics shown by the Zend guy at the IBM conference IA>> (Doron whats-his-last-name) are that LAMP is much more popular on the Doron Gerstel. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-50-624945/\ JRRT LotR. whois:!SM8333 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 05:02:59PM +0200, Uri Itscowits wrote: > Hi there, > > I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), > while all partitions are still unmounted. > > I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so, > but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if possible. > > > Any ideas out there ? > You are not in a position where you can impose some requirements on the the fs before doing this guess work, do you? If you can impose priory requirements then one way would be to e2label the root fs with something meaningful. You don't need a fs to be mounted in order to get its e2label. E2LABEL(8) E2LABEL(8) NAME e2label - Change the label on an ext2 filesystem SYNOPSIS e2label device [ new-label ] DESCRIPTION e2label will display or change the filesystem label on the ext2 filesystem located on device. If the optional argument new-label is not present, e2label will simply display the current filesystem label. -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
> -Original Message- > From: Arik Baratz > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:28 PM > Subject: RE: Guessing filesystem while unmounted > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Uri Itscowits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Hi there, > > > > I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), > > while all partitions are still unmounted. > > > > I could of course mount each in turn, and look for > /etc/fstab or so, > > but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if > > possible. > > > > How about: > > dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=1024 count=10 | file - > > I don't have another type of filesystem to try it on, but for > my ext3 ones it works fine even if I decrease count to as low > as 2 blocks (for 1 block 'file' doesn't recognize it). > > Disclaimer: No guarentees. Use a modern version of file(1). > > -- Arik This might let you find out the filesystem's TYPE, but it won't tell you which of the partitions is supposed to be the root filesystem. From the responses so far I think the answer is that this knowledge is in the logic of the boot loader rather than anywere else. On Solaris filesystems there is a field per partition which remembers where it was mounted last, which is very helpful but even that is not quite definitive (what if you keep multiple root filesystems, e.g. for different OS versions?) Maybe if Uri (the original poster) could describe what's the final goal he is trying to achieve we could come up with a completly different aproach? Cheers, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: My ADSL connection report
> -Original Message- > From: Oron Peled [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Thanks for the report. Since that happens so rarely in our place > (encountering cluefull support people), I humbly suggest to > encorage this as much as we (rightfull) rant about cluelessness. > > One option is to send a "thank you" mail to this guy and CC the > manager of the support department (email address anybody?). Even > more effective is a "paper-letter" sent to head of marketing > department. Obviously, any type of letter should indicate that > a large mailing list of Linux geeks as been notified and appreciated > the good service. The highest compliment for a support person is to be asked for by name. -- Arik ** This email and attachments have been scanned for potential proprietary or sensitive information leakage. Vidius, Inc. Protecting Your Information from the Inside Out. www.vidius.com ** To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
> -Original Message- > From: Uri Itscowits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Hi there, > > I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), > while all partitions are still unmounted. > > I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so, > but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if > possible. > How about: dd if=/dev/hda1 bs=1024 count=10 | file - I don't have another type of filesystem to try it on, but for my ext3 ones it works fine even if I decrease count to as low as 2 blocks (for 1 block 'file' doesn't recognize it). Disclaimer: No guarentees. Use a modern version of file(1). -- Arik ** This email and attachments have been scanned for potential proprietary or sensitive information leakage. Vidius, Inc. Protecting Your Information from the Inside Out. www.vidius.com ** To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
doing :
awk '{if ($2=="/")print $1}' /etc/fstab
will print either the root partition (e.g. /dev/hda2 ) or the root
label ( e.g. LABEL=/ )
the first is trevial,
the second, can be found by running e2label on all partitions and seeing
wich has the right label
erez.
Uri Itscowits wrote:
Hi there,
I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC),
while all partitions are still unmounted.
I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so,
but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if possible.
Any ideas out there ?
TIA.
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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003, Orna Agmon wrote about "Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted":
> > Well, as far as I know Grub does not know where your root filesystem ("/")
> > lives, until it first finds the boot filesystem, finds the grub/grub.conf
> > file in it (grub understands the ext2 filesystem), reads it and finds there
> > the specification of where the filesystem is.
>
> What happens if you use another filesystem on / ? ext3, for example. Or
> something that is not ext3 at all? can grub read all of them?
Ext3 is basically backward-compatible with Ext2, in the sense that you can
mount a clean Ext3 system as Ext2 without losing anything. So Grub didn't
need to make any changes to read Ext3 filesystems
Anyway, "info grub" is your friend when it comes to grub. Quoting from that
info,
"The currently supported filesystem types are "BSD FFS", "DOS FAT16
and FAT32", "Minix fs", "Linux ext2fs", "ReiserFS", "JFS", "XFS",
and "VSTa fs".
If you look on your disk, in directory /boot/grub, you'll notice files
like "e2fs_stage1_5", "reiserfs_stage1_5", etc. - these are (as far as I
know - I'm not really a grub expert...) the files that grub uses to be
able to later read the configuration file, stage2, and finally the actual
kernel, from the file system. Some of this is explained in the info file
(check "hacking GRUB").
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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> Well, as far as I know Grub does not know where your root filesystem ("/")
> lives, until it first finds the boot filesystem, finds the grub/grub.conf
> file in it (grub understands the ext2 filesystem), reads it and finds there
> the specification of where the filesystem is.
What happens if you use another filesystem on / ? ext3, for example. Or
something that is not ext3 at all? can grub read all of them?
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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: Guessing filesystem while
unmounted":
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 05:48:07PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> > Note, by the way, that newer distributions (such as Redhat 8) use Grub,
> > not LILO, so anything relying on the structure of a lilo boot record
> > isn't foolproof either.
>
> I never investigated this, so take it with a grain of salt, but I
> believe that the boot record structure is standardized and even *gasp*
> documented.
Well, as far as I know Grub does not know where your root filesystem ("/")
lives, until it first finds the boot filesystem, finds the grub/grub.conf
file in it (grub understands the ext2 filesystem), reads it and finds there
the specification of where the filesystem is.
This is both quite complex, and very different from what Lilo does; With
lilo, you must rerun "lilo" (to change the boot sector) every time you
make a change to /etc/lilo.conf. With grub, you don't have to do it, because
most of the information is looked up on your boot filesystem, not on the
boot sector.
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Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 05:48:07PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: > Note, by the way, that newer distributions (such as Redhat 8) use Grub, > not LILO, so anything relying on the structure of a lilo boot record > isn't foolproof either. I never investigated this, so take it with a grain of salt, but I believe that the boot record structure is standardized and even *gasp* documented. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote about "Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted": > You can do it the same way the kernel does it in the early boot stages > - by getting the information from lilo, via the boot record. You'll > need to read and parse the boot record, though. Mounting each file > system and checking may very well be easiser... If this is supposed to be a "hack" and not something that must generally work, you can try "fdisk -l" and look for bootable Linux partitions. In many installations the root partition will be exactly of this type. On other installations, though, you might catch a special "/boot" partition, not the "/" partition, or none at all (lilo doesn't strictly need the partition to be bootable). Note, by the way, that newer distributions (such as Redhat 8) use Grub, not LILO, so anything relying on the structure of a lilo boot record isn't foolproof either. -- Nadav Har'El| Monday, Feb 17 2003, 15 Adar I 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |The world is coming to an end ... SAVE http://nadav.harel.org.il |YOUR BUFFERS!!! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Guessing filesystem while unmounted
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 04:57:52PM +0200, Uri Itscowits wrote: > Hi there, > > I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), > while all partitions are still unmounted. You can do it the same way the kernel does it in the early boot stages - by getting the information from lilo, via the boot record. You'll need to read and parse the boot record, though. Mounting each file system and checking may very well be easiser... = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem installing not generic network card
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 11:44:01AM +0200, Alon Weinstein wrote: > > Hi, > > I got some ISA SMC card on redhat 8.0 > > The chip on this card is 8416BT , I was able to download a driver from the > scylid tulip project site > > I got some smc-ultra.c file , what do I do with it ? > > I see a smc-ultra.c file in the kernel sources (drivers/net/) -- I think you > could simply compile the file from the kernel sources as a module and insmod > it. If the version supplied with RH8 kernel does not work (since it's not > the latest & greatest) try replacing the file in the kernel sources with the > one you downloaded and compile it as a module. > You might want to diff the file you downloaded and the one from the kernel-source in order to avoid extra work. My expectation is that there will be at most minor insignificant differences because I believe it is an old card that is not produced any more. Do post the results of the diff to the list in case you will do that. Does your card intended for the ISA bus? If so you might want to check whether it is of the PNP type. I do keep here the (DOS) gz122.exe which I have downloaded from http://www.vobis.de/bbs/support/brett47 and will hopefully work with your card. Just in case the PNP causes to much difficulties. Baruch Shpirer: I sent you an email but didn't got a reply (yet). Since I am from Tel-Aviv would it be more convenient if I ask Shachar or someone else to burn a Knoppix CD for me? -- Shaul Karl, [EMAIL PROTECTED] e t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guessing filesystem while unmounted
Hi there, I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), while all partitions are still unmounted. I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so, but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if possible. Any ideas out there ? TIA. -- ** Uri Itscowits UNIX SA Cell: 972-53-360544 ** = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Guessing filesystem while unmounted
Hi there, I need to guess which is the root filesystem ( on GNU/Linux OC), while all partitions are still unmounted. I could of course mount each in turn, and look for /etc/fstab or so, but I am looking for a way which won't involve mounting, if possible. Any ideas out there ? TIA. -- Uri Itscowits UNIX SA Cell. 972-53-360544 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My ADSL connection report
well .. first, for the Realtech module and than for the socket filtering (which I was probably forgot as I downloaded the latest kernel) - Original Message - From: "Voguemaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Eli Segal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Linux-IL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:45 PM Subject: Re: My ADSL connection report > Hey, I've a question: > > Why did you have to recompile your kernel ? > > Eli > > On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:50:57 +0200, Eli Segal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi all, > > well, I went and bought the samsung ADSL modem for 249 nis, and > > an ST Lab ethernet card (Realtech chipset) for 70 nis > > > > Ethernet: > > On box it says that this card supports linux, and to my surprise there > > are > > instruction (on the supplied disk) on how to install the card on linux > > (just load the 8139too module) > > > > ADSL: > > Well.. this took time as I didn't knew nothing about networking nor adsl > > installation > > so after few attempts i turn to the bezeqint support, and, I was > > pleasenlty > > tell you > > that they instruct me step by step through the installation on my Debian > > system > > I talk to this guy barak, who also has debian, and after done with him, > > all > > i needed is to recompile > > my kernel (once more ofcourse) and WALLA ! adsl is here ! > > > > thanx for your comments > > now faster that ever > > Eli > > > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- > Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My ADSL connection report
Hey, I've a question: Why did you have to recompile your kernel ? Eli On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:50:57 +0200, Eli Segal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all, well, I went and bought the samsung ADSL modem for 249 nis, and an ST Lab ethernet card (Realtech chipset) for 70 nis Ethernet: On box it says that this card supports linux, and to my surprise there are instruction (on the supplied disk) on how to install the card on linux (just load the 8139too module) ADSL: Well.. this took time as I didn't knew nothing about networking nor adsl installation so after few attempts i turn to the bezeqint support, and, I was pleasenlty tell you that they instruct me step by step through the installation on my Debian system I talk to this guy barak, who also has debian, and after done with him, all i needed is to recompile my kernel (once more ofcourse) and WALLA ! adsl is here ! thanx for your comments now faster that ever Eli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to get soundcard working
Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > doesn't matter. try the modprobe, it should work. sndconfig has problems > with kernel 2.4 at times. Which one exactly? I'm runing 2.4.18-686 > is there still a problem? if the manual modprobe helped, just do Sadly, there is still a problem. I don't get it. Other distros had no troubles recognizing. -- http://www.rootshell.be/~eg";>Eliran Gonen = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to get soundcard working
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "Re: Unable to get soundcard working": > no. /etc/modules . Something simple I can't find in redhat and Mandrake, > for some reason: a list of modules loaded at startup . Not difficult to > create, but why do it yourself? > > Don't confuse this with /etc/modules.conf which is the config file of > insmod and modprobe Actually, /etc/modules.conf is typically use to load your sound-card module, but in a round-about way: using aliases to char-major-*. For example, /dev/dsp is a character-special device with major number 14. So I have in /etc/modules.conf something like alias char-major-14 soundcore This means the soundcard module will only get loaded the first time it is needed. This soundcore stuff is for ALSA; Try redhat-config-soundcard for something that will hopefully work for your card. In modules.conf you can also specify options to modules, specify programs to run when the module is loaded/unload (e.g., I use it to save the volume setting across module reload and even reboots). -- Nadav Har'El| Monday, Feb 17 2003, 15 Adar I 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |When you handle yourself, use your head; http://nadav.harel.org.il |when you handle others, use your heart. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to get soundcard working
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote: > > > > echo es1371 > /etc/modules > > > > > > Make that ">>" or you run over your other modules :-( > > umm, shouldn't it be: > > echo alias sound es1371 >> /etc/modules ? > > At least thats what I see here on Mandrake, SuSE and Redhat 7.3, 8.1.. no. /etc/modules . Something simple I can't find in redhat and Mandrake, for some reason: a list of modules loaded at startup . Not difficult to create, but why do it yourself? Don't confuse this with /etc/modules.conf which is the config file of insmod and modprobe -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My ADSL connection report
On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 10:50:57 +0200 Eli Segal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so after few attempts i turn to the bezeqint support, and, I was > pleasenlty tell you that they instruct me step by step through the > installation on my Debian system I talk to this guy barak, who also > has debian Thanks for the report. Since that happens so rarely in our place (encountering cluefull support people), I humbly suggest to encorage this as much as we (rightfull) rant about cluelessness. One option is to send a "thank you" mail to this guy and CC the manager of the support department (email address anybody?). Even more effective is a "paper-letter" sent to head of marketing department. Obviously, any type of letter should indicate that a large mailing list of Linux geeks as been notified and appreciated the good service. Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Bezeqint or Bezeq. I normally tried to avoid the company whose long monopoly on long distance calls caused me a lot of grief for many years. That's why it's important for me to hear also about their (maybe rare) moments of wisdom (e.g: employing cluefull people). Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron The use of Windoze cripples the mind; its use should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offence. (With apologies to Edsger W. Dijkstra) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem installing not generic network card
On Monday 17 February 2003 11:46 am, Baruch Shpirer wrote: > I already tried modprobe on all smc modules included in the kernel none > works , they designed to later or prior chips Well, ISA, ha? Check the card - if you have a way to jumper it to centain IRQ, then do so and check the parameters to tell the module which IRQ you're using. No Jumpers? welcome to the wonderful world of ISA PnP - be my guest to fiddle with pnpdump ;) Thanks, Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My ADSL connection report
oops ... well no .. sorry - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:14 AM Subject: RE: My ADSL connection report > Can you keep the contacts of this Barak? Have > you forwarded him to Israeli Linux forums so he > can be found again? > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eli Segal > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:51 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: My ADSL connection report > > > > > > Hi all, > > well, I went and bought the samsung ADSL modem for 249 nis, and > > an ST Lab ethernet card (Realtech chipset) for 70 nis > > > > Ethernet: > > On box it says that this card supports linux, and to my > > surprise there are > > instruction (on the supplied disk) on how to install the card on linux > > (just load the 8139too module) > > > > ADSL: > > Well.. this took time as I didn't knew nothing about > > networking nor adsl > > installation > > so after few attempts i turn to the bezeqint support, and, I > > was pleasenlty > > tell you > > that they instruct me step by step through the installation > > on my Debian > > system > > I talk to this guy barak, who also has debian, and after done > > with him, all > > i needed is to recompile > > my kernel (once more ofcourse) and WALLA ! adsl is here ! > > > > thanx for your comments > > now faster that ever > > Eli > > > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- Your email is protected by Mailshell -- > > As you requested, this email was forwarded to you by Mailshell. > > Mailshell will forward your replies to this email and keep your > > private email address safe. > > > > To unsubscribe safely and easily using Mailshell or to stop > > forwarding: > > http://www.mailshell.com/control.html?a=blshp8bbumg87yq1j9157q > v2pz6_58z35eg0 > > Wouldn't you rather have amos.shapira.com as your personal domain? > http://rd.mailshell.com/ad465 > Earn up to $3 for each of your friends who signs up with Mailshell! > http://rd.mailshell.com/sp5 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem installing not generic network card
> Hi, > I got some ISA SMC card on redhat 8.0 > The chip on this card is 8416BT , I was able to download a driver from the scylid tulip project site > I got some smc-ultra.c file , what do I do with it ? I see a smc-ultra.c file in the kernel sources (drivers/net/) -- I think you could simply compile the file from the kernel sources as a module and insmod it. If the version supplied with RH8 kernel does not work (since it's not the latest & greatest) try replacing the file in the kernel sources with the one you downloaded and compile it as a module. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem installing not generic network card
I already tried modprobe on all smc modules included in the kernel none works , they designed to later or prior chips -Original Message- From: Alon Weinstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Problem installing not generic network card > Hi, > I got some ISA SMC card on redhat 8.0 > The chip on this card is 8416BT , I was able to download a driver from > the scylid tulip project site > I got some smc-ultra.c file , what do I do with it ? I see a smc-ultra.c file in the kernel sources (drivers/net/) -- I think you could simply compile the file from the kernel sources as a module and insmod it. If the version supplied with RH8 kernel does not work (since it's not the latest & greatest) try replacing the file in the kernel sources with the one you downloaded and compile it as a module. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem installing not generic network card
Title: Problem installing not generic network card Hi, I got some ISA SMC card on redhat 8.0 The chip on this card is 8416BT , I was able to download a driver from the scylid tulip project site I got some smc-ultra.c file , what do I do with it ? Baruch Shpirer Windows/*nix System & Network Admin. Mobile +972-67-777167 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My ADSL connection report
Hi all, well, I went and bought the samsung ADSL modem for 249 nis, and an ST Lab ethernet card (Realtech chipset) for 70 nis Ethernet: On box it says that this card supports linux, and to my surprise there are instruction (on the supplied disk) on how to install the card on linux (just load the 8139too module) ADSL: Well.. this took time as I didn't knew nothing about networking nor adsl installation so after few attempts i turn to the bezeqint support, and, I was pleasenlty tell you that they instruct me step by step through the installation on my Debian system I talk to this guy barak, who also has debian, and after done with him, all i needed is to recompile my kernel (once more ofcourse) and WALLA ! adsl is here ! thanx for your comments now faster that ever Eli = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
