Re: good old good old question, MBP or MBA
Joanne, As I write to you, I'm using a brand new iMac, 3.4Ghz i7 quad core processor, 16Gb RAM, enhanced graphics card, 256Gb SSD and 2Tb SATA drive. This is as loaded as you can make an iMac, it cannot be speced any higher. In contrast, I have an 11in MBA for use when at the office or out and about, or, even for when just sitting in the sitting room at home. My 11in MBA is an 1.8 i7 dual core processor, 4Gb RAM and a 128Gb SSD. At the time of ordering it, July last year, it was the most spec you could put on an MBA 11in. In terms of Voice Over performance I find no difference in either machine, so, with one machine seemingly to be, on face value, massively over powered compared to its portable counter part, I can honestly tell you that I have no discernible differences perceivable to myself even during heavy usage. I will very often have Safari up with 5 to 8 tabs open, Pages with 3 or so docs on the go, Mail with 6 accounts syncing every minute, Numbers with 2 or so spreadsheets open, and iTunes to boot. None of this slows the MBA down and I am ever constantly impressed with its capabilities. Now, you mention audio editing, it really depends on what you mean by that, picture editing, on an iPhoto level will be fine, I even have sighted people use Aperture on my MBA without issue. However, if you mean PhotoShop level of image manipulation at the intense end of reasonable, then you may, and only may, find the MBA under powered. But, I would ask myself very carefully how much image editing you really do. Otherwise, the MBA 11in is the machine if you are ever going to be carrying it about, the keyboard is not compromised in terms of physical key size, bar the F row, which face it, is used less often anyhow. I, in case you are wondering, have my iMac pumped up to the max, as a family friend edits together all my high end digital photography and home movies at full HD and as such, the power makes it more easy to do so. hope that this helps you. Regards, Neil Barnfather Talks List Administrator Twitter @neilbarnfather TalkNav is a Nuance, Code Factory and Sendero dealer, as well as an Apple iOS, Macintosh and Android accessibility specialist. For all your accessible phone, PDA and GPS related enquiries visit www.talknav.com URL: - www.talknav.com e-mail: - serv...@talknav.com Phone: - +44 844 999 4199 On 18 Jun 2012, at 01:05, Joanne Chua wrote: Hi all, I guess by now some of you may have feel totally frustrated with me, as i bringing this out every so often... I'm about to get a mac laptop, in the next few days. But i'm torn between MBP 13inch and MBA. my question is, what Mac will be the best? Either the MBP13inch, MBA13inch with 128GB, or MBA11Inch 128GB? I know the spects for all these three are very similar, and i also know that MBA will operate somewhat faster in live time compare to MBP, more portable, etc. I also know that mbp is great for post processing, and heavy duty usage such as vedeo edditing etc etc. As this will be the very first Mac notebook that i own, and coming from the windows screen reader for laptop background, i'm interested to know, if voiceover will slow any of the mbp or mba down from the specs performance? As my windows brain kick in, sort of telling me that the greater processer, memory, will be better as far as screen reader is concern. i'll mainly using it for studying e.g. research, browsing, word processer etc purposes, however, i also uses it for audio edditing, and basic photo edditing as well. The size of the storage doesn't really effect me as much, however, who would say no to a bigger size harddrive? The optical drive also not the priority, as i have a 4 year old IMac sitting at home as my desttop. All of your advice is very much appreciated. Thanks Joanne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: mail
Keep pressing once you hit the slideshow button and you will get a save button. Press control option space to open the menu. Arrow down to save all attachments and press enter. tab to the save button and press enter. Hope this helps, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-06-17, at 9:52 PM, Walter Harper wrote: I need to be able to same the attachment On Jun 17, 2012, at 9:51 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Press enter on the email message to open it. Press control option right arrow until you get to the slideshow button. Press control option space. This will open the PDF file in quicklook so you can view it's contents. When you are done, press the space bar on it's own to get rid of the window. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-06-17, at 9:48 PM, Walter Harper wrote: How do you open an attachment in mail? I have a PDF file that I need to open. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
question about iPhone training
Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about iPhone training
There are 2 issues to consider about one on one training at an Apple store. First, while the reps have heard of VoiceOver, it doesn't mean they really know it. She would have to find someone at the store with whom she could work on a regular basis. When I purchased our first Mac, this is what I did, I had to work it out with the store manager. I had a better experience once I identified the rep who knew VoiceOver. The second issue is that training must take place in the store out in the open. You sit at a table on a high stool, and you have to block out the noise around you. If she becomes rattled easily, I don't think this would be the most optimal learning environment for a beginner. One on One training in a quiet setting is a better route to go, in my opinion. Les On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about iPhone training
Yes I found in my store to be to noisy I wonder why Apple stores have a quiet room[s] for this use! Colin On 18 Jun 2012, at 13:54, Les Kriegler wrote: There are 2 issues to consider about one on one training at an Apple store. First, while the reps have heard of VoiceOver, it doesn't mean they really know it. She would have to find someone at the store with whom she could work on a regular basis. When I purchased our first Mac, this is what I did, I had to work it out with the store manager. I had a better experience once I identified the rep who knew VoiceOver. The second issue is that training must take place in the store out in the open. You sit at a table on a high stool, and you have to block out the noise around you. If she becomes rattled easily, I don't think this would be the most optimal learning environment for a beginner. One on One training in a quiet setting is a better route to go, in my opinion. Les On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
reading Notifications.
Hello All. I have formatted my I phone 4S a couple of times in the hope my notifications will read when the screen is locked. It's not happening and wish to know if any one else is having this problem? It started after the last update. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about iPhone training
Hi guys Thanks for the comments. It just so happens, that one of the gentleman at the North Park Apple store, is now beginning to consider himself the voiceover person. This is because he is working with myself and another blind friend. Then, a couple more people walk it. As for the noise, what day was to put speakers on and turn the volume up, and that wasn't a problem. You just have to make sure and ask for speakers. It works fine on my Mac. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:54 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: There are 2 issues to consider about one on one training at an Apple store. First, while the reps have heard of VoiceOver, it doesn't mean they really know it. She would have to find someone at the store with whom she could work on a regular basis. When I purchased our first Mac, this is what I did, I had to work it out with the store manager. I had a better experience once I identified the rep who knew VoiceOver. The second issue is that training must take place in the store out in the open. You sit at a table on a high stool, and you have to block out the noise around you. If she becomes rattled easily, I don't think this would be the most optimal learning environment for a beginner. One on One training in a quiet setting is a better route to go, in my opinion. Les On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Why can't I delete .band file?
Every now and then I get a 'phantom' file on my desktop that can't be deleted and it only goes away after a reboot. Give it a whirl, can't hurt much :) CB On 6/17/12 5:44 PM, Blinkin wrote: No it's closed On Jun 17, 2012, at 1:02 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, are you trying to delete the file with the garageband project still open? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com wrote: All, I have been doing a lot of playing with Garage Band and for some reason two times when I have created a new track it also places a file with the same name that ends with dot band. I don't know why this is happening but It won't let me delete the file. it says my song dot band cannot be deleted. Any ideas here? Thanks yawl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mudder?
Hi. I am not getting the unknown. I get a connection group and other options did you try interacting with the unknown? Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 18/06/2012, at 11:17 AM, Vivianna wrote: Hi all. i just purchased the mudder app from the app store. it specifically states that this app works with voiceover however, when i open the app i am presented with unknown. i am unable to do anything with this app. please help if you have used this app. thanks so much. Vivianna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO support for FireFox.
For real information I suggest you keep tabs on the developer's blog here: http://www.marcozehe.de/ although there hasn't been much since his April 30 post about VO being in the nightly builds of Firefox: http://www.marcozehe.de/2012/04/30/initial-voiceover-support-now-in-firefox-nightly-builds-for-mac-os-x/ he does mention an OSX accessibility meta bug which has all the known issues attached to it so you can add more and/or read about the current state of things here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=342989hide_resolved=1 CB On 6/16/12 7:57 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: that is typical of mozilla and their software for OS X. I have sent them lots of email explaining why they *NEED* to make firefox accessible on the OS X platform and all I get back anymore is the canned response about thanking me for my input, yadda yadda yadda.. incidentally, I have been doing this for slightly more than 3 years. the first couple of times, I actually had a human respond to me about keeping a separate code base, seeking access to apple's entire source tree, etc. it really does look like they won't do much unless they can get unfettered access to apple's source tree. apple did publish their API standards and that is all they are required to do. I think it is also that they want to use Apple's development environment without paying for the privilege (it is not free, but the price is still cheap enough that I can afford it). It seems to me that mozilla needs to hear from every blind/VI user of OS X (and not just by email). -eric On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi all. I'm messing around with the nightly build of FireFox. I understood that this was supposed to be at least partly accessible. Seems to me that it's just as bad as it ever was. Might I be doing something wrong? I don't see any HTML area, toolbar, scroll area, nothing. All I see are buttons for close, full screen and zoom. Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this. Matthew Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: The Apple Key Note
I thought they said something to that effect - that pedestrian, biking, hiking and public transportation stuff was being left to 3rd party apps for now. CB On 6/16/12 6:38 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, in this instance, I don't know if telling us the destination is on the left or right side would matter since the new Maps app by all accounts doesn't support pedestrian mode. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 16, 2012, at 6:21 AM, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi guys I was waiting to see if anybody was going to pick up on this, but one of the things Apple talked about on the keynote was turn by turn directions, not just maps. They gave a demonstration and it did what you think it would, Toews right and left for the street. So far, I only have one criticism of the demonstration. The voiceover type voice never told that the dent that the destination was on the right or the left. They were talking about sighted people using their Cars eyes free. They have managed to acquire a perfect population for checking this out on. Because if we can do it… Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:53 AM, irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure about it, but I can say you that it uses google maps for the names of the roads ecc…. It really is not a real navigator but it can be useful for looking (or better, touching) the roads near us for helping as orienteering ourselves. irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com contatto skype: superirid Il giorno 12/giu/2012, alle ore 15:29, Krister Ekstrom ha scritto: Hi, Maybe a stupid question here, but could Ariadne help us if walking in a forest? I thought it was more for streets and such, but i could be wrong. /Krister 12 jun 2012 kl. 14:03 skrev irid domnori: yes, the Gps navigation was developed by an Italian developer and it's named Ariadne gps (in euros it coast 4.99 euros, maybe 8$?) irid domnori irid.domn...@gmail.com contatto skype: superirid Il giorno 12/giu/2012, alle ore 14:00, Eugenia Firth ha scritto: Hi guys. I really like the Apple Key Note. To start with, the first person they showed on the video of Apps was a blind guy using a GPS to walk in the forest. Although they had to talk about pictures and displays for our sighted friends, there was a lot talked about (like Mountain Lion and Siri and IOS) that we want to know about, too. They even said they were glad about more people using accessibility with IOS and that were more of us. So, if you haven't called it up yet, you might want to check out the Key Note. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Screen Curtain in Lion fixed?
Hey everyone. I did not notice a post on this so... FYI: Looks like Apple fixed the screen curtain in one of the more recent Lion updates. When I toggle the screen curtain on the screen no longer goes completely bright. It goes dark like it is supposed to. Keystroke Vo/shift f11. Or three finger tripple tap will toggle the curtain as well. Take care. -Rodney -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about iPhone training
Hello Eugene, If your friend is interested in getting some training or I would rather call it teaching help with an iPhone or for that matter anything to do with assistive technology, I would like to offer my services. I am part of a new firm here in Georgia that offers low cost support and training or teaching for all of Apple's products. I am also very knowledgeable with Windows screen readers so I could also help with that as well. If you or your friend are interested let me know and we can talk about rates and what services that your friend might be interested in. If you go to: http://www.fedoraoutlier.com you can learn more about our company and what services we offer. As I said we are a firm that specializes in Apple accessibility and I am sure that once you and your friend look at our website that you will agree that we are the ones to come to for teaching skills such as you described. Scott E. Rumery Assistive Technology Consultant Phone Number: 478-993-8717 Email Address: blindfait...@gmail.com On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mudder?
Hi I downloaded this att and I get connection apptions. Does someone have experience with using this app or playing MUD RPG games in general this seems very cool but I am not sure how to get started. When I got the Mudder app and open it it askes for ip address and other things. I am not sure how to go about finding this info out . I did a couple google searches about MUD RPG but I am still not really sure what I am looking for. So if anyone could shead a little light on this for me and possibley give me a good place to get started I would greatly appreciate it. On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: Hi. I am not getting the unknown. I get a connection group and other options did you try interacting with the unknown? Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 18/06/2012, at 11:17 AM, Vivianna wrote: Hi all. i just purchased the mudder app from the app store. it specifically states that this app works with voiceover however, when i open the app i am presented with unknown. i am unable to do anything with this app. please help if you have used this app. thanks so much. Vivianna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mudder?
HI. in the connections group, there is a button that will open a list of muds you can connect to. hth. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.powerradio104.us where we play lots of great music On 19/06/2012, at 1:42 AM, jason lefevers wrote: Hi I downloaded this att and I get connection apptions. Does someone have experience with using this app or playing MUD RPG games in general this seems very cool but I am not sure how to get started. When I got the Mudder app and open it it askes for ip address and other things. I am not sure how to go about finding this info out . I did a couple google searches about MUD RPG but I am still not really sure what I am looking for. So if anyone could shead a little light on this for me and possibley give me a good place to get started I would greatly appreciate it. On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: Hi. I am not getting the unknown. I get a connection group and other options did you try interacting with the unknown? Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 18/06/2012, at 11:17 AM, Vivianna wrote: Hi all. i just purchased the mudder app from the app store. it specifically states that this app works with voiceover however, when i open the app i am presented with unknown. i am unable to do anything with this app. please help if you have used this app. thanks so much. Vivianna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about iPhone training
I completely agree Les. That is why our firm specializes in One To One training, and we also offer group training for those clients that would like to have 3 to 10 people trained at the same time. This group training takes up a full 8 hour day in a specific location that we and our clients agree on and of course costs more, but as I said, with this service we can train/ teach a group of individuals at the same time. Scott E. Rumery Assistive Technology Consultant Phone Number: 478-993-8717 Email Address: blindfait...@gmail.com On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:54 AM, Les Kriegler wrote: There are 2 issues to consider about one on one training at an Apple store. First, while the reps have heard of VoiceOver, it doesn't mean they really know it. She would have to find someone at the store with whom she could work on a regular basis. When I purchased our first Mac, this is what I did, I had to work it out with the store manager. I had a better experience once I identified the rep who knew VoiceOver. The second issue is that training must take place in the store out in the open. You sit at a table on a high stool, and you have to block out the noise around you. If she becomes rattled easily, I don't think this would be the most optimal learning environment for a beginner. One on One training in a quiet setting is a better route to go, in my opinion. Les On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading a macbook pro from late 2010
David, I, recently, upgraded the RAM in my 2008 MBP by myself, with a little sighted assistant from my 17-year-old. I went from 2GB to 4GB really noticed a difference in VoiceOver's performance. Mind you, it's not as if I went from a VolksWagon to a Formula 1 race car. But, VO doesn't lag or stutter anymore. I'm thinking about a SSD,now, myself. I believe that would be about the last tweak I could make to this machine for any performance gain. I wish you luck. CJ On Jun 17, 2012, at 8:52 PM, David Philip Martin Babula Hole wrote: Thanks much. But can I do it myself, or do I have to visit an apple store? -David Sendt fra min iPhone Den 18. juni 2012 kl. 05:33 skrev Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com: Hi, Yes it is. I upgraded the RAM, and put an SSD into my 2010 Macbook pro. I also took out my optical drive and replaced it with the old rotating hard drive that came with my Mac. The performance is great. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 17, 2012, at 8:30 PM, David Hole balubathebr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks. Is it possible to upgrade a mbp from late 2010 with more ram and maybe a ssd disk? If so, is it worth doing it? -David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mudder?
hmm, well in my menus there are no buttons at all. for example, there is connection but, it's not a button, no matter what i do it won't open. and, yes, of course i tried to interact with everything, tab, open, use track pad, everything. i can not get this app to do a thing. anybody who wishes to help me out please contact me privately at; irish...@gmail.com i have also tried working with a very experienced mac user who tells me this app is completely not accessible and that there's nothing i am doing wrong. so, how are you guys getting a thing out of it? nothing is labeled and i can't open anything. Vivianna On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: HI. in the connections group, there is a button that will open a list of muds you can connect to. hth. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.powerradio104.us where we play lots of great music On 19/06/2012, at 1:42 AM, jason lefevers wrote: Hi I downloaded this att and I get connection apptions. Does someone have experience with using this app or playing MUD RPG games in general this seems very cool but I am not sure how to get started. When I got the Mudder app and open it it askes for ip address and other things. I am not sure how to go about finding this info out . I did a couple google searches about MUD RPG but I am still not really sure what I am looking for. So if anyone could shead a little light on this for me and possibley give me a good place to get started I would greatly appreciate it. On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: Hi. I am not getting the unknown. I get a connection group and other options did you try interacting with the unknown? Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 18/06/2012, at 11:17 AM, Vivianna wrote: Hi all. i just purchased the mudder app from the app store. it specifically states that this app works with voiceover however, when i open the app i am presented with unknown. i am unable to do anything with this app. please help if you have used this app. thanks so much. Vivianna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO support for FireFox.
Hi all, I've downloaded the latest nightly build of firefox which in my case is 16.0a1 but for reasons unknown it doesn't contain the voiceover support. My point that I'm trying to make is that I red somewhere from the firefox nightly that had support for VO was meant to be included by default from that version onwards. I tried downloading the one that had this support again but the link appears to of broken. Can anyone download the latest version and comferm that the voiceover support is missing? I'm dissapointed. Sad smile. Daniel On 18 Jun 2012, at 16:08, Chris Blouch wrote: For real information I suggest you keep tabs on the developer's blog here: http://www.marcozehe.de/ although there hasn't been much since his April 30 post about VO being in the nightly builds of Firefox: http://www.marcozehe.de/2012/04/30/initial-voiceover-support-now-in-firefox-nightly-builds-for-mac-os-x/ he does mention an OSX accessibility meta bug which has all the known issues attached to it so you can add more and/or read about the current state of things here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=342989hide_resolved=1 CB On 6/16/12 7:57 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: that is typical of mozilla and their software for OS X. I have sent them lots of email explaining why they *NEED* to make firefox accessible on the OS X platform and all I get back anymore is the canned response about thanking me for my input, yadda yadda yadda.. incidentally, I have been doing this for slightly more than 3 years. the first couple of times, I actually had a human respond to me about keeping a separate code base, seeking access to apple's entire source tree, etc. it really does look like they won't do much unless they can get unfettered access to apple's source tree. apple did publish their API standards and that is all they are required to do. I think it is also that they want to use Apple's development environment without paying for the privilege (it is not free, but the price is still cheap enough that I can afford it). It seems to me that mozilla needs to hear from every blind/VI user of OS X (and not just by email). -eric On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi all. I'm messing around with the nightly build of FireFox. I understood that this was supposed to be at least partly accessible. Seems to me that it's just as bad as it ever was. Might I be doing something wrong? I don't see any HTML area, toolbar, scroll area, nothing. All I see are buttons for close, full screen and zoom. Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this. Matthew Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about iPhone training
Thanks Scott. I will let her know. She is not yet ready, but I wanted to check on it before I mentioned it to her. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Scott Rumery wrote: Hello Eugene, If your friend is interested in getting some training or I would rather call it teaching help with an iPhone or for that matter anything to do with assistive technology, I would like to offer my services. I am part of a new firm here in Georgia that offers low cost support and training or teaching for all of Apple's products. I am also very knowledgeable with Windows screen readers so I could also help with that as well. If you or your friend are interested let me know and we can talk about rates and what services that your friend might be interested in. If you go to: http://www.fedoraoutlier.com you can learn more about our company and what services we offer. As I said we are a firm that specializes in Apple accessibility and I am sure that once you and your friend look at our website that you will agree that we are the ones to come to for teaching skills such as you described. Scott E. Rumery Assistive Technology Consultant Phone Number: 478-993-8717 Email Address: blindfait...@gmail.com On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OCR for iPhone 4s or iPad
So does this maake it possible to take a picture of printed material and it will read it back on the iPhone? On Jun 10, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Most people find Prizmo to be the best OCR app for iPhone. Here is a link to the Prizmo guide on Applevis: http://www.applevis.com/guides/guide-using-prizmo-scanning-and-ocr-application-iphone I suspect it works best on an iPhone since it has a better camera than other IOS devices. Cheers, Anne On 10 Jun 2012, at 11:26, venky...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers! I would like to know if there is any good or cout software for iPhone or iPad If it exists, which is better? An iPhone or the new iPad? Please let me know the name of such a software. Any help would be greatly appreciated Thank you Cheers Venkatesh Potluri Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about iPhone training
I offer iOS training via skype for a reasonable price. If that's a route she may be interested in, please have her drop me an e mail. My e mail address is came...@cameronstrife.com Thanks, Cameron. On 6/18/12, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Thanks Scott. I will let her know. She is not yet ready, but I wanted to check on it before I mentioned it to her. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Scott Rumery wrote: Hello Eugene, If your friend is interested in getting some training or I would rather call it teaching help with an iPhone or for that matter anything to do with assistive technology, I would like to offer my services. I am part of a new firm here in Georgia that offers low cost support and training or teaching for all of Apple's products. I am also very knowledgeable with Windows screen readers so I could also help with that as well. If you or your friend are interested let me know and we can talk about rates and what services that your friend might be interested in. If you go to: http://www.fedoraoutlier.com you can learn more about our company and what services we offer. As I said we are a firm that specializes in Apple accessibility and I am sure that once you and your friend look at our website that you will agree that we are the ones to come to for teaching skills such as you described. Scott E. Rumery Assistive Technology Consultant Phone Number: 478-993-8717 Email Address: blindfait...@gmail.com On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
problem installing overdrive thanks for help!
HI all, Hoe you are enjoying summer wherever you are. I tried to install overdrive to make use of the great info Esther shared about those free audiobooks for the summer but am having the following problem: I downloaded the odmediaconsolesetup.dmg it shows it is 5 mb. I go to finder and try to open the dmg file and nothing happens. No warning no nothing. Tried command o command down arrow open from menu etc. What am I missing? Thanks for your help! Best, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO support for FireFox.
Hi. This is exactly the same issue I brought up over the weekend. Not entirely sure what's going on here. On 2012-06-18, at 3:07 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: Hi all, I've downloaded the latest nightly build of firefox which in my case is 16.0a1 but for reasons unknown it doesn't contain the voiceover support. My point that I'm trying to make is that I red somewhere from the firefox nightly that had support for VO was meant to be included by default from that version onwards. I tried downloading the one that had this support again but the link appears to of broken. Can anyone download the latest version and comferm that the voiceover support is missing? I'm dissapointed. Sad smile. Daniel On 18 Jun 2012, at 16:08, Chris Blouch wrote: For real information I suggest you keep tabs on the developer's blog here: http://www.marcozehe.de/ although there hasn't been much since his April 30 post about VO being in the nightly builds of Firefox: http://www.marcozehe.de/2012/04/30/initial-voiceover-support-now-in-firefox-nightly-builds-for-mac-os-x/ he does mention an OSX accessibility meta bug which has all the known issues attached to it so you can add more and/or read about the current state of things here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=342989hide_resolved=1 CB On 6/16/12 7:57 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: that is typical of mozilla and their software for OS X. I have sent them lots of email explaining why they *NEED* to make firefox accessible on the OS X platform and all I get back anymore is the canned response about thanking me for my input, yadda yadda yadda.. incidentally, I have been doing this for slightly more than 3 years. the first couple of times, I actually had a human respond to me about keeping a separate code base, seeking access to apple's entire source tree, etc. it really does look like they won't do much unless they can get unfettered access to apple's source tree. apple did publish their API standards and that is all they are required to do. I think it is also that they want to use Apple's development environment without paying for the privilege (it is not free, but the price is still cheap enough that I can afford it). It seems to me that mozilla needs to hear from every blind/VI user of OS X (and not just by email). -eric On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi all. I'm messing around with the nightly build of FireFox. I understood that this was supposed to be at least partly accessible. Seems to me that it's just as bad as it ever was. Might I be doing something wrong? I don't see any HTML area, toolbar, scroll area, nothing. All I see are buttons for close, full screen and zoom. Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this. Matthew Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OCR for iPhone 4s or iPad
My understanding is that Prismo is not worth bothering with unless you have an iPhone 4s. On anything lower the camera isn't good enough. That's why I haven't bought it. I hear it's quite good on the 4s though Lisette - Original Message - From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:09 AM Subject: Re: OCR for iPhone 4s or iPad Hello Mary, On 18 Jun 2012, at 21:54, Mary Scott wrote: So does this maake it possible to take a picture of printed material and it will read it back on the iPhone? Not exactly. Once Prizmo is set up correctly, you select Text, take the picture of the page, tap Use and wait for the OCR to be completed. It takes some practice to get the knack. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7230 (20120618) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7230 (20120618) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO support for FireFox.
Yup, just tried it and they broke something. All I could reach was the full screen button, close button etc. in the window chrome and none of the actual browser controls or content. That's part of the fun in playing with nightly builds. Some days you get the latest hot new features and other days you get the latest hot new bugs. CB On 6/18/12 3:07 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: Hi all, I've downloaded the latest nightly build of firefox which in my case is 16.0a1 but for reasons unknown it doesn't contain the voiceover support. My point that I'm trying to make is that I red somewhere from the firefox nightly that had support for VO was meant to be included by default from that version onwards. I tried downloading the one that had this support again but the link appears to of broken. Can anyone download the latest version and comferm that the voiceover support is missing? I'm dissapointed. Sad smile. Daniel On 18 Jun 2012, at 16:08, Chris Blouch wrote: For real information I suggest you keep tabs on the developer's blog here: http://www.marcozehe.de/ although there hasn't been much since his April 30 post about VO being in the nightly builds of Firefox: http://www.marcozehe.de/2012/04/30/initial-voiceover-support-now-in-firefox-nightly-builds-for-mac-os-x/ he does mention an OSX accessibility meta bug which has all the known issues attached to it so you can add more and/or read about the current state of things here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=342989hide_resolved=1 CB On 6/16/12 7:57 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: that is typical of mozilla and their software for OS X. I have sent them lots of email explaining why they *NEED* to make firefox accessible on the OS X platform and all I get back anymore is the canned response about thanking me for my input, yadda yadda yadda.. incidentally, I have been doing this for slightly more than 3 years. the first couple of times, I actually had a human respond to me about keeping a separate code base, seeking access to apple's entire source tree, etc. it really does look like they won't do much unless they can get unfettered access to apple's source tree. apple did publish their API standards and that is all they are required to do. I think it is also that they want to use Apple's development environment without paying for the privilege (it is not free, but the price is still cheap enough that I can afford it). It seems to me that mozilla needs to hear from every blind/VI user of OS X (and not just by email). -eric On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi all. I'm messing around with the nightly build of FireFox. I understood that this was supposed to be at least partly accessible. Seems to me that it's just as bad as it ever was. Might I be doing something wrong? I don't see any HTML area, toolbar, scroll area, nothing. All I see are buttons for close, full screen and zoom. Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this. Matthew Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
remote access for macs?
Hey there. I was wondering if the macs have remote access like with jaws? i need to help someone fix their mac and we're in two different locations of course. Do we have that capability? If so, can someone send me the steps on how to do so or where I should go look for that? Thanks, May and Prince Noah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: solved problem installing overdrive thanks for help!
HI, Mistery solved. I must have opened the dmg file but for some reason focus was not brought to it so I ended up with multiple mounted drives. FOund them when I looked in my computer. Thought I'd share in case anyone runs into similar problems. Best, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: HI all, Hoe you are enjoying summer wherever you are. I tried to install overdrive to make use of the great info Esther shared about those free audiobooks for the summer but am having the following problem: I downloaded the odmediaconsolesetup.dmg it shows it is 5 mb. I go to finder and try to open the dmg file and nothing happens. No warning no nothing. Tried command o command down arrow open from menu etc. What am I missing? Thanks for your help! Best, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: OCR for iPhone 4s or iPad
Hello Lisette, I have an iPhone 4 and have been using Prizmo successfully in both English and French for over a year now. I'm totally blind, no light perception, and yet it still works for me, often at the first attempt! Cheers, Anne On 18 Jun 2012, at 22:24, Lisette Wesseling wrote: My understanding is that Prismo is not worth bothering with unless you have an iPhone 4s. On anything lower the camera isn't good enough. That's why I haven't bought it. I hear it's quite good on the 4s though Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about iPhone training
Hi, I hear ebony consulting is pretty good. :) Please check out www.erik-burggraaf.com, and feel free to call at the toll-free number below if there is anything I can do to help. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-06-18, at 8:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
question for app writers?
Greetings, sharing the below for a former computer professional of mine based on long island. If anyone is writing using this code, reach out to him will you? I feel sure Peter will be a sensational contributor to the cause. Thanks, Karen -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 21:27:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Mikochik mikoc...@panix.com hi list i have been teaching myself xcode, the environment used for creating iphone apps. i am making good progress, but struggling with some aspects. i am not sure where to turn for advice, so if anyone out there knows any blind folks who are also using xcode, please help me to contact them. ___ Vic-nyc mailing list vic-...@lists.columbia.edu https://lists.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/vic-nyc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
automatically importing audible books iTunes possible?
Hi all, When I I started downloading audiobooks to the mac they used to automatically download after purchasing and then I am pretty sure they would automatically start playing in iTunes. I disabled that at the time but have absolutely no idea how to access this kind of preferences. Any help is as allays very appreciated. Best, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about iPhone training
Thanks again guys. I am saving all this information away for her. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:09 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi, I hear ebony consulting is pretty good. :) Please check out www.erik-burggraaf.com, and feel free to call at the toll-free number below if there is anything I can do to help. Best, Erik Burggraaf Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, starting at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-06-18, at 8:33 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
few questions about osx mail
Hi list! I have written into this list only one or two times before. that was the time I didn't have a mac. Today I am happy to say, that I've got my first mac, the mac book air (wich I currently am typing on, so excuse please if I messed something up). I've had time to play with it only few hours, but I already love it. I have a question too. Is it possible to group messages by title in one folder, and don't group in other folders? for example, I want the folder, where the mac visionaires list is to have messages grouped to get better over view when reading, but I want to have every message in my inbox shown without grouping. Is it somehow possible and where I could do that? With best regards Jakob Rosin Skype: jakob.rosin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
speaking of training...apple store?
Hi all, How much does it cost there? I long ago decided, especially after I had a macbook as a loan for a while, that when the time came, I am going to the store for voiceover work. first, its terrific Apple offers this, and second they should be rewarded with people to make use of that option. As I lean more towards an ipad, I wondered about others training experiences. and the rate? I am simply interested, I am likely to try it regardless. thanks, Kare -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Voiceover speak clipboard?
Hi all, Is there a way to get Voiceover to speak the clipboard content on my Mac Mini? When I want to read something on my PC I select the text, copy it then have Zoom Text read the clipboard. I would like to be able to do this on my Mini. Thanks Chuck -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/b70A_IaMOgMJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: question about iPhone training
Hi Gigi, there is another Google group called VIPhone that deals strictly with voice over issues on the iPhone ,iPad, and iPod Touch. There is a lot of very helpful and friendly advice there. here is a link: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/viphone You may also want to look around for free iPhone training in your area. I offer my school of hard knocks knowledge here in Tempe, AZ. at no cost. Chuck On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:33:54 AM UTC-7, Gigi wrote: Hi guys. I have a blind friend who is considering getting an iPhone down the line. She's not ready yet because she's getting a new computer. I couldn't talk her into switching to a Mac, unfortunately. The big reason she won't switch is because she believes she will need pdf files and the ability to edit the things. Because she's sort of experienced with a computer but sort of not, I'm concerned about her getting a Windows computer with little tech support. She just retired from a job where she was using Windows, and she had tech support any time things went wrong. Despite her experience at work, her computer skills are a little shaky, especially if anything goes wrong. I at least talked her into a laptop and going somewhere to get her computer where they have tech people. Much to my surprise, she said she wanted an iPhone down the line. Maybe I can talk her into waiting for 6.0 IOS. Here's my question to y'all. Because she tends to get rattled when learning new computer stuff, does anybody know if VoiceOver users can pay Apple for one-on-one with the iPhone like you can on the Mac? I know they have classes, but she would be the only blind person in the class, and I think she's going to need one-on-one. I may have to give it to her myself, but I think she would like it better done by someone professional instead of a long-time friend. Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/U1rq6dzjYDkJ. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaking of training...apple store?
It's $99 for 1 year of training. Les On Jun 18, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi all, How much does it cost there? I long ago decided, especially after I had a macbook as a loan for a while, that when the time came, I am going to the store for voiceover work. first, its terrific Apple offers this, and second they should be rewarded with people to make use of that option. As I lean more towards an ipad, I wondered about others training experiences. and the rate? I am simply interested, I am likely to try it regardless. thanks, Kare -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: speaking of training...apple store?
...hang a second. they will train you for a year in person? and for only $99? mercy! Thanks, Karen On Mon, 18 Jun 2012, Les Kriegler wrote: It's $99 for 1 year of training. Les On Jun 18, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi all, How much does it cost there? I long ago decided, especially after I had a macbook as a loan for a while, that when the time came, I am going to the store for voiceover work. first, its terrific Apple offers this, and second they should be rewarded with people to make use of that option. As I lean more towards an ipad, I wondered about others training experiences. and the rate? I am simply interested, I am likely to try it regardless. thanks, Kare -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: automatically importing audible books iTunes possible?
And if this answer can go to the list I too would appreciated. Jesus Garcia From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ioana Gandrabur Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 17:46 To: MacVisionaries Subject: automatically importing audible books iTunes possible? Hi all, When I I started downloading audiobooks to the mac they used to automatically download after purchasing and then I am pretty sure they would automatically start playing in iTunes. I disabled that at the time but have absolutely no idea how to access this kind of preferences. Any help is as allays very appreciated. Best, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Checking Mountain Lion Update Capability?
Evening list members I know there is a way to check if my machine is capable of updating to Mountain Lion when it is released. I know this is in the about this Mac menu, but I cannot seem to find it. I am fairly certain my mac pro will run Mountain lion, but I would like to be certain. thanks for the help. Jesus Garcia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO support for FireFox.
Yes, I consider it an experiment and adventure at this point. Let's hope for accessibility more often than not. Teresa Visualize whirled peas. On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: Yup, just tried it and they broke something. All I could reach was the full screen button, close button etc. in the window chrome and none of the actual browser controls or content. That's part of the fun in playing with nightly builds. Some days you get the latest hot new features and other days you get the latest hot new bugs. CB On 6/18/12 3:07 PM, Daniel McGee wrote: Hi all, I've downloaded the latest nightly build of firefox which in my case is 16.0a1 but for reasons unknown it doesn't contain the voiceover support. My point that I'm trying to make is that I red somewhere from the firefox nightly that had support for VO was meant to be included by default from that version onwards. I tried downloading the one that had this support again but the link appears to of broken. Can anyone download the latest version and comferm that the voiceover support is missing? I'm dissapointed. Sad smile. Daniel On 18 Jun 2012, at 16:08, Chris Blouch wrote: For real information I suggest you keep tabs on the developer's blog here: http://www.marcozehe.de/ although there hasn't been much since his April 30 post about VO being in the nightly builds of Firefox: http://www.marcozehe.de/2012/04/30/initial-voiceover-support-now-in-firefox-nightly-builds-for-mac-os-x/ he does mention an OSX accessibility meta bug which has all the known issues attached to it so you can add more and/or read about the current state of things here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=342989hide_resolved=1 CB On 6/16/12 7:57 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: that is typical of mozilla and their software for OS X. I have sent them lots of email explaining why they *NEED* to make firefox accessible on the OS X platform and all I get back anymore is the canned response about thanking me for my input, yadda yadda yadda.. incidentally, I have been doing this for slightly more than 3 years. the first couple of times, I actually had a human respond to me about keeping a separate code base, seeking access to apple's entire source tree, etc. it really does look like they won't do much unless they can get unfettered access to apple's source tree. apple did publish their API standards and that is all they are required to do. I think it is also that they want to use Apple's development environment without paying for the privilege (it is not free, but the price is still cheap enough that I can afford it). It seems to me that mozilla needs to hear from every blind/VI user of OS X (and not just by email). -eric On Jun 16, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Matthew Campbell wrote: Hi all. I'm messing around with the nightly build of FireFox. I understood that this was supposed to be at least partly accessible. Seems to me that it's just as bad as it ever was. Might I be doing something wrong? I don't see any HTML area, toolbar, scroll area, nothing. All I see are buttons for close, full screen and zoom. Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this. Matthew Campbell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Upgrading to lion from snow leopard
Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to Lion from snow leopard. My macbook white from 2009 which I got on sale has one gb of ram is this enough to upgrade to lion and still have good voiceover performance or do I need more ram? Can I just download lion from the app store and let it install? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Checking Mountain Lion Update Capability?
Here's a page on upgrade info: http://www.apple.com/osx/how-to-upgrade/ HTH, Teresa On Jun 18, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote: Evening list members I know there is a way to check if my machine is capable of updating to Mountain Lion when it is released. I know this is in the about this Mac menu, but I cannot seem to find it. I am fairly certain my mac pro will run Mountain lion, but I would like to be certain. thanks for the help. Jesus Garcia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading to lion from snow leopard
Why not just wait a few weeks and update to mountain lion? Jason LeFevers State of Maryland Registered massage practitioner Call 443-570-8660 or email jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com to schedule a massage today! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to Lion from snow leopard. My macbook white from 2009 which I got on sale has one gb of ram is this enough to upgrade to lion and still have good voiceover performance or do I need more ram? Can I just download lion from the app store and let it install? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading to lion from snow leopard
Who's to say you can update from snow leopard straight to Mountain Lion to start with? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Jasonlefevers.massage jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com wrote: Why not just wait a few weeks and update to mountain lion? Jason LeFevers State of Maryland Registered massage practitioner Call 443-570-8660 or email jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com to schedule a massage today! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to Lion from snow leopard. My macbook white from 2009 which I got on sale has one gb of ram is this enough to upgrade to lion and still have good voiceover performance or do I need more ram? Can I just download lion from the app store and let it install? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading to lion from snow leopard
No way. 1GB is pretty under powered. It might run but, I don't think it would be very stable. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to Lion from snow leopard. My macbook white from 2009 which I got on sale has one gb of ram is this enough to upgrade to lion and still have good voiceover performance or do I need more ram? Can I just download lion from the app store and let it install? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
highlighting text in pages?
HI. I am scanning a text book for my course. My tutor wants me to highlight any text that either won't read properly or any diagrams as I come across them. In ms word I was shading the text. Is there an equivalent way to do this in pages? If not, can anyone suggest how i can mark the section i need help with? Also when i export a document to word format and then save it after making changes will it stay in that format? IE will I be able to open it in word when I get to TAFE? thanks Maria Chapman bubbygirl1...@gmail.com The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. - Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading to lion from snow leopard
You can upgrade from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. I already tried the upgrade from SL to Lion and hated it. I went back to SL and don't know if I'll give ML a shot or not. On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Who's to say you can update from snow leopard straight to Mountain Lion to start with? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Jasonlefevers.massage jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com wrote: Why not just wait a few weeks and update to mountain lion? Jason LeFevers State of Maryland Registered massage practitioner Call 443-570-8660 or email jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com to schedule a massage today! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to Lion from snow leopard. My macbook white from 2009 which I got on sale has one gb of ram is this enough to upgrade to lion and still have good voiceover performance or do I need more ram? Can I just download lion from the app store and let it install? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Mudder?
Hi list, In mudder, I can get the muds to load perfectly fine, but I can't control voice over. It will start reading the output on the screen and I can't get it to stop so I can type in info such as user name and pass word or read line by line. Or just read output that is incoming for that matter. Any help would greatly be appreciated. On 6/18/12, Vivianna irish...@gmail.com wrote: hmm, well in my menus there are no buttons at all. for example, there is connection but, it's not a button, no matter what i do it won't open. and, yes, of course i tried to interact with everything, tab, open, use track pad, everything. i can not get this app to do a thing. anybody who wishes to help me out please contact me privately at; irish...@gmail.com i have also tried working with a very experienced mac user who tells me this app is completely not accessible and that there's nothing i am doing wrong. so, how are you guys getting a thing out of it? nothing is labeled and i can't open anything. Vivianna On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:44 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: HI. in the connections group, there is a button that will open a list of muds you can connect to. hth. regards Maria and crew from australia email: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com check out www.powerradio104.us where we play lots of great music On 19/06/2012, at 1:42 AM, jason lefevers wrote: Hi I downloaded this att and I get connection apptions. Does someone have experience with using this app or playing MUD RPG games in general this seems very cool but I am not sure how to get started. When I got the Mudder app and open it it askes for ip address and other things. I am not sure how to go about finding this info out . I did a couple google searches about MUD RPG but I am still not really sure what I am looking for. So if anyone could shead a little light on this for me and possibley give me a good place to get started I would greatly appreciate it. On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:48 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: Hi. I am not getting the unknown. I get a connection group and other options did you try interacting with the unknown? Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb bubbygirl1...@gmail.com twitter: bubbygirl skype: bubbygirl1972 bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 18/06/2012, at 11:17 AM, Vivianna wrote: Hi all. i just purchased the mudder app from the app store. it specifically states that this app works with voiceover however, when i open the app i am presented with unknown. i am unable to do anything with this app. please help if you have used this app. thanks so much. Vivianna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: remote access for macs?
as far as I know this doesn't ixist. On 6/18/2012 1:33 PM, May and Noah wrote: Hey there. I was wondering if the macs have remote access like with jaws? i need to help someone fix their mac and we're in two different locations of course. Do we have that capability? If so, can someone send me the steps on how to do so or where I should go look for that? Thanks, May and Prince Noah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading to lion from snow leopard
Well this was a pleasant response. I an not totally sure if you can I am not that knowledgeable about it, however I don't see why you couldn't? And maybe just say that upgrade is not possible or something instead of this smart remark? Jason LeFevers State of Maryland Registered massage practitioner Call 443-570-8660 or email jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com to schedule a massage today! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Who's to say you can update from snow leopard straight to Mountain Lion to start with? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Jasonlefevers.massage jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com wrote: Why not just wait a few weeks and update to mountain lion? Jason LeFevers State of Maryland Registered massage practitioner Call 443-570-8660 or email jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com to schedule a massage today! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to Lion from snow leopard. My macbook white from 2009 which I got on sale has one gb of ram is this enough to upgrade to lion and still have good voiceover performance or do I need more ram? Can I just download lion from the app store and let it install? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading to lion from snow leopard
Thanks Ricardo. I didn't want to try an upgrade without knowing for sure. SL is working well for me at the moment. On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: No way. 1GB is pretty under powered. It might run but, I don't think it would be very stable. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to Lion from snow leopard. My macbook white from 2009 which I got on sale has one gb of ram is this enough to upgrade to lion and still have good voiceover performance or do I need more ram? Can I just download lion from the app store and let it install? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading to lion from snow leopard
Kimberly, how much memory do you have? On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Kimberly thurman wrote: You can upgrade from Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion. I already tried the upgrade from SL to Lion and hated it. I went back to SL and don't know if I'll give ML a shot or not. On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Who's to say you can update from snow leopard straight to Mountain Lion to start with? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Jasonlefevers.massage jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com wrote: Why not just wait a few weeks and update to mountain lion? Jason LeFevers State of Maryland Registered massage practitioner Call 443-570-8660 or email jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com to schedule a massage today! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to Lion from snow leopard. My macbook white from 2009 which I got on sale has one gb of ram is this enough to upgrade to lion and still have good voiceover performance or do I need more ram? Can I just download lion from the app store and let it install? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading to lion from snow leopard
This was in the Apple keynote that Tim Cook gave last week at WWDC. Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Who's to say you can update from snow leopard straight to Mountain Lion to start with? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Jasonlefevers.massage jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com wrote: Why not just wait a few weeks and update to mountain lion? Jason LeFevers State of Maryland Registered massage practitioner Call 443-570-8660 or email jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com to schedule a massage today! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to Lion from snow leopard. My macbook white from 2009 which I got on sale has one gb of ram is this enough to upgrade to lion and still have good voiceover performance or do I need more ram? Can I just download lion from the app store and let it install? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: remote access for macs?
The only way I know of is using screen sharing through iChat. The thing is, the person has to have the volume loud enough to hear for VoiceOver on their end because you will have to listen to it through the connection. You could use SSH in terminal, but you would have to know your way around the command line. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Hank Smith hanksm...@hanksmith.net wrote: as far as I know this doesn't ixist. On 6/18/2012 1:33 PM, May and Noah wrote: Hey there. I was wondering if the macs have remote access like with jaws? i need to help someone fix their mac and we're in two different locations of course. Do we have that capability? If so, can someone send me the steps on how to do so or where I should go look for that? Thanks, May and Prince Noah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
question for developers
Developers or anyone who does programming I am getting ready to get out of the military and have the opportunity to choose a new career. I am considering getting into computers on the nerd level instead of just the user level. I love mac and Apple obviously so that is what I am thinking I want to target . My question is in regards to schooling. Is it g=better to go and get a 4 year degree of to attend some sort of technical school and get more specific training. I am still just gathering thoughts and info right now and haven't totally decided if this is what I want to do or not. The more you can share with me the better. Feel free to email me off list since this isn't exactly Mac related but this list is the best place to ask this question. Thanks! Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
RE: OCR for iPhone 4s or iPad
Hello Anne. I have tried Prismo a few times and haven't been very successful even with the aid of Light Detector. How much practice did it take for you to become proficient? This is my signature -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: OCR for iPhone 4s or iPad Hello Lisette, I have an iPhone 4 and have been using Prizmo successfully in both English and French for over a year now. I'm totally blind, no light perception, and yet it still works for me, often at the first attempt! Cheers, Anne On 18 Jun 2012, at 22:24, Lisette Wesseling wrote: My understanding is that Prismo is not worth bothering with unless you have an iPhone 4s. On anything lower the camera isn't good enough. That's why I haven't bought it. I hear it's quite good on the 4s though Lisette -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: few questions about osx mail
Hi Jacob, You can select a specific MailBox, then go up to the View menu and deselect the Organize by Conversation option. This will have all the messages within the given MailBox listed in whatever style you've chosen but not affect the other MailBoxes you've set up. Hope that was what you were looking for. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On 2012-06-18, at 4:22 PM, Jakob Rosin wrote: Hi list! I have written into this list only one or two times before. that was the time I didn't have a mac. Today I am happy to say, that I've got my first mac, the mac book air (wich I currently am typing on, so excuse please if I messed something up). I've had time to play with it only few hours, but I already love it. I have a question too. Is it possible to group messages by title in one folder, and don't group in other folders? for example, I want the folder, where the mac visionaires list is to have messages grouped to get better over view when reading, but I want to have every message in my inbox shown without grouping. Is it somehow possible and where I could do that? With best regards Jakob Rosin Skype: jakob.rosin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Upgrading to lion from snow leopard
for lion you need 2gb of ram. if you check the section in the about this mac item, it should tell you how much ram you have. On Jun 18, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: This was in the Apple keynote that Tim Cook gave last week at WWDC. Egun On, Lagunak! Basque for G'day, Mates Louie P. (Pete) Nalda Http://www.myspace.com/lpnalda Http://www.facebook.com/lpnalda Http://www.linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter @lpnalda On Jun 18, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Who's to say you can update from snow leopard straight to Mountain Lion to start with? Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Jasonlefevers.massage jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com wrote: Why not just wait a few weeks and update to mountain lion? Jason LeFevers State of Maryland Registered massage practitioner Call 443-570-8660 or email jasonlefevers.mass...@gmail.com to schedule a massage today! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading to Lion from snow leopard. My macbook white from 2009 which I got on sale has one gb of ram is this enough to upgrade to lion and still have good voiceover performance or do I need more ram? Can I just download lion from the app store and let it install? Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
