Re: [MBZ] No Fan in position I

[Hendrik Riessen]

Hi Howard,

How are things in old blighty? Perhaps it is a matter of pulling it out and 
giving the contacts a clean.
Might be a fairly big job to get at it, unless you can get at it from the 
top. If you do pull it out let us know how you did it, currently we have two 
201's in the fleet and chances are sooner or later they will develop wonky 
switch syndrome as well.


Hendrik
who suffers from wonky brain syndrome and a cold at the 
moment..cough cough


- Original Message - 
From: "Howard Fulford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 7:33 AM
Subject: [MBZ] No Fan in position I



Listers

I just noticed that the ventilation fan on my (non-AC) 190E doesn't work
when the slider switch is in speed I - speeds II, III and MAX work fine, 
so

I assuming it's not a fuse problem

I remember that my old W126's had wire wound resistors behind one of the
headlamps to give different fan speeds - I don't see anything like that on
my W210 - how's the system work here ?

It's a linear slide switch, not a rotary one

I've looked in the archives with no luck - anyone have any ideas before I
delve in ?


Howard Fulford
Bath
England

190E '89 2.0 litre, 148345 miles


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Re: [MBZ] Accelerator Control W124 '91 300D

[Desert Rat]

Idle with A/C on would drop. Idle control maintains same RPM so it's
working if you don't notice it!

On 9/28/06, Jeff Zedic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've wondered this for a long time because I've never noticed an idle up
with AC on.

My 123 never did it and my 124 doesn't.

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] How to adjust AC belt, 240D

[Peter Frederick]

There is an idler pulley, loosen the clamp bolt (up top somewhere) and 
rotate idler down with a wrench, then tighten clamp bolt.


Peter

[MBZ] No Fan in position I

[Howard Fulford]

Listers

I just noticed that the ventilation fan on my (non-AC) 190E doesn't work
when the slider switch is in speed I - speeds II, III and MAX work fine, so
I assuming it's not a fuse problem

I remember that my old W126's had wire wound resistors behind one of the
headlamps to give different fan speeds - I don't see anything like that on
my W210 - how's the system work here ?

It's a linear slide switch, not a rotary one

I've looked in the archives with no luck - anyone have any ideas before I
delve in ?


Howard Fulford
Bath
England

190E '89 2.0 litre, 148345 miles

[MBZ] OT Mailman

[Loren Faeth]

Can anyone tell me where to find the bit in mailman to turn off the 
mederation requirement, so a list can become unmoderated?


I know it is there, because i have used it before. TIA




Loren Faeth 

[MBZ] NTSB/Comair

[RELNGSON]

UPDATE ON NTSB INVESTIGATION INTO THE CRASH OF COMAIR FLIGHT 5191 

 On August 27, 2006, about 6:07 a.m., Comair flight 5191, a Bombardier 
CRJ-100, (N431CA) crashed upon takeoff from Blue Grass Airport in Lexington, 
Kentucky. Of the 47 passengers and 3 crewmembers onboard, 49 were fatally 
injured and 
one (the first officer) survived in critical condition. The following is an 
update of factual information developed during the Safety Board's 
investigation.
 Washington, DC --The Safety Board has completed the on-scene portion of the 
investigation. All of the investigative groups will be completing factual 
reports, which will be released to the public when the public docket is opened 
in 
the next several months.

 Accident Sequence
 Flight 5191, from Lexington, Kentucky to Atlanta, Georgia, was the third of 
three airplanes scheduled to take off in the early morning. The previous two 
departures took off without incident from runway 22. Flight 5191 was also 
cleared to taxi to runway 22 and subsequently cleared for takeoff; however, the 
airplane attempted to take off from runway 26. According to recorded 
information, 
the aircraft began its takeoff roll, accelerated to a maximum of about 137 
knots, ran off the end of the runway through the airport perimeter fence, and 
impacted trees on an adjacent horse farm. The entire sequence took about 36 
seconds. The airplane was destroyed by impact forces and a post-crash fire.
 Aircraft Wreckage

Witness marks on scene indicate that all three landing gear were on the 
ground as the airplane exited the runway. The main wreckage was located 
approximately 1,800 feet from the end of the runway. Both engines were examined 
at the 
accident site and no evidence of pre-impact failure was noted and the thrust 
reversers were stowed. The flaps were found in the takeoff position and no 
problems were noted with any other airplane system or structure. The wreckage 
from 
flight 5191 has been moved to a storage facility in Georgia.

 Recorders
 The flight data recorder (FDR) and the cockpit voice recorder (CVR) were 
recovered immediately and have provided valuable information. Investigators are 
continuing to extract data from the flight recorders, the air traffic control 
tape recordings and airport video surveillance cameras. FDR data indicate that 
the airplane stopped near the end of runway 26 for about 45 seconds before the 
flight was cleared for takeoff. The airplane was cleared for takeoff and 6 
seconds later started to taxi onto runway 26. It took about 36 seconds for the 
airplane to taxi onto runway 26 and complete the turn before power was 
increased to initiate the takeoff. FDR vertical accelerometer data indicate 
that the 
airplane departed the end of the runway about 32 seconds after the takeoff was 
initiated. The FDR recording ended about 4 seconds later. Time correlation of 
those data continues.

 Operations/Human Performance

 Operations/Human Performance group has completed initial follow-up 
interviews at Comair headquarters in Covington, KY. The group conducted airport 
observations under day and night conditions; a simulator observation of Comair 
taxi 
and takeoff procedures; and interviews with multiple persons including: ramp 
personnel, flight instructors, check airmen, and several pilots who had flown 
with the accident flight crew. These interviews provided investigators with 
information about procedures and techniques used by pilots for taxi and takeoff 
runway identification and information about the accident flightcrew. 
Additionally, the Director of Corporate Safety for Comair and FAA personnel 
responsible 
for oversight of the Comair certificate were interviewed. The group gathered 
relevant documents pertaining to the accident flight, flight crew training and 
evaluation, operations of the CRJ100, and oversight of the airline. 
Investigators are now reviewing interviewsummaries and documentation to 
identify areas 
for further investigation and evaluation. The group continues to evaluate the 
pilot actions that led to the attempted takeoff on runway 26.

 Airport Information/Survival Factors
 Runway 22 is 7003 feet long, 150 feet wide, and is lighted for nighttime 
use. Runway 26 is 3500 feet long, 150 feet wide but marked to 75 feet wide, and 
is not lighted and is restricted to daytime use only. In order to take off from 
runway 22 it is necessary to taxi across the end of runway 26. An airport 
construction project, begun in 2004, was still underway at LEX at the time of 
the 
accident. The project was intended to mill and repave runway 4-22 and upgrade 
the safety areas at both ends of runway 4-22, the main runway. This project 
necessitated changes to some of the taxiways and signage. The group continues 
to evaluate the airport taxiway and runway markings, lighting and signage as 
well as additional information that was available to pilots. The 
Airport/Survival Factors Group will also be documenting the factors that may

[MBZ] Honda at Oshkosh '06

[RELNGSON]

http://world.honda.com/HondaJet/2006/video/HondaatOshkosh/

Re: [MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly

[LarryT]

As long as you can see the plastic bushing in the end of the rod where it 
attaches to the side of the AT.Mine was damaged and then it fell out --


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- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Merle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly



It's a 1979 with only a solid rod control, no vacuum control. All
linkages are good. Not sure what the correct setting/orientation is for
the lever.
PEter

-Original Message-
From: LarryT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 28 September 2006 02:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly


Not sure if your 300D has a solid metal control rod or a vacuum hose -
one
or the other will run from the IP to the AT - it controls when the
tranny
upshifts/.  If there's a solid rod you may need the plastic bushing at
the
AT end.  It's hard to find as it;s not shown in the parts diagrams.  I
was
helped by the MB CLassic Dept and I now have the pn for this $2 part.

If you have the vacuum hose, check it;s condition - it may be plugged
with
crap - or it may be damaged and leaking.

That's the quick n easy fix - there's also a gizmo on the AT that
controls
vacuum/shift points - called a modulator - not wiure if all MB AT's have
one
that can be changed -

What year is your W123?

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- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Merle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:03 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly



I have an older 300D W123 with the 711.118 transmission and all of a
sudden it will only upshift based on speed and not throttle position as



well. Furthur it won't go into top gear no matter how high the engine
revs. There are no transmission leaks but level seemed to be low when I



checked it. Added 250 ml of ATF and no change. Kickdown function still



works.  Not sure what to do next! Throttle link appears Ok and working
,  no sure if it has slipped on the splined shaft on the transmission
shaft  though.

Regarding level checking , when the engine is not running the level is



some 50 mm or so higher on the dipstick than when engine is running -
is this OK. Furthur the cold fluid level check - is this also done
when engine is running?

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] Chameleon Benz

[OK Don]

Absolutely!

I've forgotten - where are yo? The lizard population in OK has mostly
dissappeared. I miss the little insect eating creatures.




My question is, if I go to sell the car on eBay can I say it has very
rare custom lizard skin seats?

--R


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Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

[Michael Hall]

No, its not.

I want the Wagon.  I'm the only one willing to bid, lets say, 5k.

No one else bids more than 2k.

Seller places a shill bid for 4,800.

I win the auction at 4,900.  Seller recieves 2,900 more than he would in a
fair auction.

Mike

On 9/28/06, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Of course this is all moot if you have the discipline to bid only as much
as
you are willing to pay, based on what the item is worth...

On 9/28/06, Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You don't know what he bid - thats the whole thing.  Thats how eBay
works,
> a
> bidder makes a maximum bid, which shows up as the next bid based on the
> current bid increment, then eBay automatically raises it up to the
maximun
> as people bid against you.  So you run a no reserve auction, then a few
> days
> later, bid your reserve.  There are car dealers that make livings doing
> this
> on eBay.  The trick is to use proxy servers to make it look like the
> accounts originate and bid at independant IPs, other wise eBay will
catch
> you and suspend your accounts.
>
> Mike
>
> On 9/27/06, mark maturo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks. I didn't know the terminology.  I've never bid on anything.  I
> > agree it does sound fishy but wouldn't the seller bid a lot higher to
> make
> > people think it was worth more?  And why isn't he showing the
> > interior?  Also ,the back looks like it is sitting kind of low.
> >
> > Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Lets see - the no
> reserve,
> > the bidder opened an account TODAY, bidder name
> > is mercedes related but not exactly the product being sold (an attempt
> to
> > make people think its a mercedes type person bidding), the bid was
> placed
> > 15
> > minutes after the seller answered my question about rust (ie got home
> from
> > worked, answered some questions, opened and account and placed a bid).
> >
> > Shill bidding is bidding that artificially inflates the price of the
> > auction, ie the seller bidding on his own item under a different name.
> > While abhored on eBay, the practice is accepted at dealer car
auctions,
> > where half the time, you're bidding against the coke machine in the
> > corner.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > On 9/27/06, mark maturo wrote:
> > >
> > > what is shill bidding?
> > >
> > > Michael Hall wrote: If that doesn't reek of
> > > shill bidding, I dunno what does.
> > >
> > > On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It has one now.
> > > >
> > > > andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I can't believe it has no bids. The TL lenses alone are worth
> > $200...
> > > > >
> > > > > On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-W123-1981-Mecedes-Benz-300TD-Wagon-300-turbo-diesel-sunroof_W0QQitemZ270033823857QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > > > >>--
> > > > >>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> > > > >>91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
> > > > >>87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
> > > > >>84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> > > > >>http://www.striplin.net
> > > > >>
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> > > > 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
> > > > 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Transmission not shifting properly

[Levi Smith]

I'm a fan of the flush and in my mind a Trans flush includes fluid and
filter.  Sadly it seems that now they are no longer including the filter
with the flushes for supposedly some sort of extra risks involved with
dropping the pan.

Levi

On 9/28/06, Dan Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>sudden it will only upshift based on speed and not throttle position as
>>  well. Furthur it won't go into top gear no matter how high the engine
>  revs...Kickdown function still works.

My SD had the same symptoms. Trans flush did NOT cure the problem,
but a fluid and filter change did. Try that.

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Re: [MBZ] Transmission not shifting properly

[Dan Weeks]

sudden it will only upshift based on speed and not throttle position as

 well. Furthur it won't go into top gear no matter how high the engine

 revs...Kickdown function still works.


My SD had the same symptoms. Trans flush did NOT cure the problem, 
but a fluid and filter change did. Try that.


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Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

[andrew strasfogel]

Of course this is all moot if you have the discipline to bid only as much as
you are willing to pay, based on what the item is worth...

On 9/28/06, Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


You don't know what he bid - thats the whole thing.  Thats how eBay works,
a
bidder makes a maximum bid, which shows up as the next bid based on the
current bid increment, then eBay automatically raises it up to the maximun
as people bid against you.  So you run a no reserve auction, then a few
days
later, bid your reserve.  There are car dealers that make livings doing
this
on eBay.  The trick is to use proxy servers to make it look like the
accounts originate and bid at independant IPs, other wise eBay will catch
you and suspend your accounts.

Mike

On 9/27/06, mark maturo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks. I didn't know the terminology.  I've never bid on anything.  I
> agree it does sound fishy but wouldn't the seller bid a lot higher to
make
> people think it was worth more?  And why isn't he showing the
> interior?  Also ,the back looks like it is sitting kind of low.
>
> Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Lets see - the no
reserve,
> the bidder opened an account TODAY, bidder name
> is mercedes related but not exactly the product being sold (an attempt
to
> make people think its a mercedes type person bidding), the bid was
placed
> 15
> minutes after the seller answered my question about rust (ie got home
from
> worked, answered some questions, opened and account and placed a bid).
>
> Shill bidding is bidding that artificially inflates the price of the
> auction, ie the seller bidding on his own item under a different name.
> While abhored on eBay, the practice is accepted at dealer car auctions,
> where half the time, you're bidding against the coke machine in the
> corner.
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 9/27/06, mark maturo wrote:
> >
> > what is shill bidding?
> >
> > Michael Hall wrote: If that doesn't reek of
> > shill bidding, I dunno what does.
> >
> > On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > >
> > > It has one now.
> > >
> > > andrew strasfogel wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can't believe it has no bids. The TL lenses alone are worth
> $200...
> > > >
> > > > On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-W123-1981-Mecedes-Benz-300TD-Wagon-300-turbo-diesel-sunroof_W0QQitemZ270033823857QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > > >>--
> > > >>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> > > >>91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
> > > >>87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
> > > >>84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> > > >>http://www.striplin.net
> > > >>
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> > > 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
> > > 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
> > > 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

oh

Rusty wrote:


Why don't you? I don't even know about those lists.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

you should be sending this to the other lists as well, SL, vets, etc.

Rusty wrote:



http://dunwoodynorth.org/dndc/index.htm

This is where the Q will be held this year, October 28th from 12:00pm
till 5:00pm. Barbeque Pork & Chicken, Baked Beans, Mac & Cheese, Slaw,
Soft Drinks, Cold Beer & Wine. So far, we have over 50 RSVP's. Don't
delay, call or email and tell us your coming. Bring your wife, your
girlfriend, your pet. Bring you car so we call all gaze at it. It's


the


event of the year. People are coming from Wisconsin, Oklahoma,


Arkansas,


New Jersey, shoot, from all over the World. How can you pass up a


chance


to see rusty, patched up old beater Benzes? You also get to meet Jabba
the Hurst aka Docktor Fatty. All this for free. Any questions, call
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Re: [MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly

[Jim Cathey]

It's a 1979 with only a solid rod control, no vacuum control. All
linkages are good. Not sure what the correct setting/orientation is for
the lever.


I forget exactly, but you do something like floor the accelerator and
then set the linkage to be all the way forward at the same time.  
Something

like that, I had to do it on the Albatross.  Made a big difference on
shifting in it, but the linkage had obviously come loose there.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

[Rusty]

Why don't you? I don't even know about those lists.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

you should be sending this to the other lists as well, SL, vets, etc.

Rusty wrote:

> http://dunwoodynorth.org/dndc/index.htm
>  
> This is where the Q will be held this year, October 28th from 12:00pm
> till 5:00pm. Barbeque Pork & Chicken, Baked Beans, Mac & Cheese, Slaw,
> Soft Drinks, Cold Beer & Wine. So far, we have over 50 RSVP's. Don't
> delay, call or email and tell us your coming. Bring your wife, your
> girlfriend, your pet. Bring you car so we call all gaze at it. It's
the
> event of the year. People are coming from Wisconsin, Oklahoma,
Arkansas,
> New Jersey, shoot, from all over the World. How can you pass up a
chance
> to see rusty, patched up old beater Benzes? You also get to meet Jabba
> the Hurst aka Docktor Fatty. All this for free. Any questions, call
> Rusty @ 1-800-741-5252. 
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  87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
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Re: [MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly

[Peter Merle]

It's a 1979 with only a solid rod control, no vacuum control. All
linkages are good. Not sure what the correct setting/orientation is for
the lever.
PEter 

-Original Message-
From: LarryT [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 28 September 2006 02:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly


Not sure if your 300D has a solid metal control rod or a vacuum hose -
one 
or the other will run from the IP to the AT - it controls when the
tranny 
upshifts/.  If there's a solid rod you may need the plastic bushing at
the 
AT end.  It's hard to find as it;s not shown in the parts diagrams.  I
was 
helped by the MB CLassic Dept and I now have the pn for this $2 part.

If you have the vacuum hose, check it;s condition - it may be plugged
with 
crap - or it may be damaged and leaking.

That's the quick n easy fix - there's also a gizmo on the AT that
controls 
vacuum/shift points - called a modulator - not wiure if all MB AT's have
one 
that can be changed -

What year is your W123?

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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:03 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly


>I have an older 300D W123 with the 711.118 transmission and all of a  
>sudden it will only upshift based on speed and not throttle position as

>well. Furthur it won't go into top gear no matter how high the engine  
>revs. There are no transmission leaks but level seemed to be low when I

>checked it. Added 250 ml of ATF and no change. Kickdown function still

>works.  Not sure what to do next! Throttle link appears Ok and working 
>,  no sure if it has slipped on the splined shaft on the transmission 
>shaft  though.
>
> Regarding level checking , when the engine is not running the level is

> some 50 mm or so higher on the dipstick than when engine is running - 
> is this OK. Furthur the cold fluid level check - is this also done 
> when engine is running?
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [MBZ] Chameleon Benz

[Steve MacSween]

on 9/28/06 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

> My question is, if I go to sell the car on eBay can I say it has very
> rare custom lizard skin seats?

I am sorry, I only answered SIGNED questions concerning lizards in Mercedes.

If you are lurking, Marshall, sorry but I couldn't resist THAT.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] Chameleon Benz

[Jeff Zedic]

Practical application a la gecko

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-08/uoc--ecg082206.php

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

Re: [MBZ] Chameleon Benz

[Bob Rentfro]

You sure someone wasn't trying to sell you insurance?

Bob Rentfro


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Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:26 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Chameleon Benz


So on Tuesday I looked at Brunnhilde who was parked in front of the 
house, as I was pulling out of the driveway, and noticed a chameleon 
sitting on top of the steering wheel.  Most curious, I noticed its 
profile only since it was darkened considerably sitting on the black 
steering wheel.  So yesterday I hop in to go to the grocery, expecting 
lizards to be dashing about the interior, but no such thing.  I get to 
the store, open the door and a chameleon runs out from somewhere, over 
the door frame and onto the outside of the door where it was holding on 
(how do they do that?).  I close the door and it dashes in the front gap 
back inside the car I guess.  I got back in after my store run but no 
creature to be seen.


This year has seen a bumper crop of chameleons, geckos, and these little 
frogs about an inch long that come out at night, that I have not seen 
before. The geckos and frogs are noisy as hell when they get cranked up, 
even the geckos during the day.  Last night there were 4 frogs, two 
geckos, and a chameleon on the kitchen window, maybe attracted by the 
light or each other.  I guess Brunnhilde's is pushing into new territory.


My question is, if I go to sell the car on eBay can I say it has very 
rare custom lizard skin seats?


--R


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Re: [MBZ] Accelerator Control W124 '91 300D

[Jeff Zedic]

I've wondered this for a long time because I've never noticed an idle up 
with AC on.


My 123 never did it and my 124 doesn't.

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

[MBZ] Chameleon Benz

[Rich Thomas]

So on Tuesday I looked at Brunnhilde who was parked in front of the 
house, as I was pulling out of the driveway, and noticed a chameleon 
sitting on top of the steering wheel.  Most curious, I noticed its 
profile only since it was darkened considerably sitting on the black 
steering wheel.  So yesterday I hop in to go to the grocery, expecting 
lizards to be dashing about the interior, but no such thing.  I get to 
the store, open the door and a chameleon runs out from somewhere, over 
the door frame and onto the outside of the door where it was holding on 
(how do they do that?).  I close the door and it dashes in the front gap 
back inside the car I guess.  I got back in after my store run but no 
creature to be seen.


This year has seen a bumper crop of chameleons, geckos, and these little 
frogs about an inch long that come out at night, that I have not seen 
before. The geckos and frogs are noisy as hell when they get cranked up, 
even the geckos during the day.  Last night there were 4 frogs, two 
geckos, and a chameleon on the kitchen window, maybe attracted by the 
light or each other.  I guess Brunnhilde's is pushing into new territory.


My question is, if I go to sell the car on eBay can I say it has very 
rare custom lizard skin seats?


--R

Re: [MBZ] Where is Marshall?

[Zoltan Finks]

I agree. It makes it more interesting. Most of the topics are at least about
cars or driving. And subject lines can be a real good wheat/chaff separator.

Brian


On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


That is why the proper use of subject lines comes into play.  The list
would be rather boring if no off topic stuff was allowed.  This list is
light in the off topic department compared to the competition, but not
ad dry as some of the others.  I like to think its a near perfect balance.

Dennis Perkins wrote:

> Could it be that this list seems to stray from MB interest to other
areas
> thusly adding to the load of stuff that has to be looked at.
>
> Dennis Perkins
> 84 300SD
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] How to adjust AC belt, 240D

[Curt Raymond]

My, my quite the mood we are in today eh?

-Curt

Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 19:56:06 -0700
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> change when you snog them back down.

I prefer to use a wrench, myself.

-- Jim


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Is that the right stuff for a hoodpad too?
I know its 3m something. I finally found a place that has 3m spray adhesive
but they've got like 4 different ones...

-Curt

Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:41:35 -0700
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> What type of glue is used to tack the  translucent plastic liners at 
> the
> doors ?

I use 3M's 77.

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> Is that the right stuff for a hoodpad too?

Absolutely not.

> I know its 3m something. I finally found a place that has 3m spray 
> adhesive
> but they've got like 4 different ones...

Spray 77 is lightweight stuff.  For hood pads, you want the
Super Trim Adhesive.  I use the 77 for door vapor barriers because
it pulls off without tearing the plastic.  Holds _just_ good enough.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Accelerator Control W124 '91 300D

[Jim Cathey]

Is there some kind of control that maintains the idle rpm when the AC 
is
turned on?   Seems like there should be something to account for the 
extra

load on the engine so the engine doesn't stall --


The EDS, electronic diesel system?  That's what's in the SDL.
Hooks to the tachometer signal, feeds an actuator inside the IP.

-- Jim

[MBZ] Accelerator Control W124 '91 300D

[LarryT]

Howdy -
Is there some kind of control that maintains the idle rpm when the AC is 
turned on?   Seems like there should be something to account for the extra 
load on the engine so the engine doesn't stall -- 


TIA -

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Re: [MBZ] What makes a turd/what's it worth?

[LarryT]

you said:<>

What year is it?

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From: "John W. Reames III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:08 AM
Subject: [MBZ] What makes a turd/what's it worth?



Speaking of cheap beaters, my parents still have my brother's 300SDL.

It does have some body rust (over rear wheel arches), blower motor
(porcupine?), driveline vibes (carrier bearing?), needs a chain tensioner,
and an A/C compressor (Klima replaced)

It MAY need the IP delivery seals done.  IIRC it is over 250k on it.

It has had: oil cooler lines replaced within past 10k, new tranny with in
past 50k, rear trailing arl (left?) replaced due to rot allowing spring to
drop out bottom within past 50k.  It has fairly new rubber (turanza?) on
it.

It starts and runs/drives. It is in White Marsh, MD.  What is it worth?

-j.



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Re: [MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly

[LarryT]

Not sure if your 300D has a solid metal control rod or a vacuum hose - one 
or the other will run from the IP to the AT - it controls when the tranny 
upshifts/.  If there's a solid rod you may need the plastic bushing at the 
AT end.  It's hard to find as it;s not shown in the parts diagrams.  I was 
helped by the MB CLassic Dept and I now have the pn for this $2 part.


If you have the vacuum hose, check it;s condition - it may be plugged with 
crap - or it may be damaged and leaking.


That's the quick n easy fix - there's also a gizmo on the AT that controls 
vacuum/shift points - called a modulator - not wiure if all MB AT's have one 
that can be changed -


What year is your W123?

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- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Merle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 2:03 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly



I have an older 300D W123 with the 711.118 transmission and all of a
sudden it will only upshift based on speed and not throttle position as
well. Furthur it won't go into top gear no matter how high the engine
revs. There are no transmission leaks but level seemed to be low when I
checked it. Added 250 ml of ATF and no change. Kickdown function still
works.  Not sure what to do next! Throttle link appears Ok and working ,
no sure if it has slipped on the splined shaft on the transmission shaft
though.

Regarding level checking , when the engine is not running the level is
some 50 mm or so higher on the dipstick than when engine is running - is
this OK. Furthur the cold fluid level check - is this also done when
engine is running?

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly

[Jim Cathey]

sudden it will only upshift based on speed and not throttle position as
well. Furthur it won't go into top gear no matter how high the engine
revs...Kickdown function still works.


Me either.  I'd say stuck kickdown except you've eliminated that.
I guess really check out that throttle linkage, though I'd think
that if it were going to slip it'd tend to slip the other way.


Regarding level checking , when the engine is not running the level is
some 50 mm or so higher on the dipstick than when engine is running - 
is

this OK. Furthur the cold fluid level check - is this also done when
engine is running?


Always running, always warm.  Otherwise the level is meaningless.
Officially, anyhow.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Windsheild Washer Reservoir Leak

[M.Afzaal.Khan]

Thanks for that info.
regards
mak
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windsheild Washer Reservoir Leak



Mak -
I use Sanfords rubber cement. Stationary store would be the source I 
guess.

We had a couple of cans of it that the secretaries were tossing. Cut and
paste done a bit differently these days. Brush the stuff on both the door
and the plastic sheet. After it dries you can stick it on. If it doesn't
line up right just peel it away and restick it where you want. The best 
part

is it won't tear your plastic if you want to pull it loose to work inside
your door.

Barry





What type of glue is used to tack the  translucent plastic liners at the
doors ?
mak





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Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

[Michael Hall]

You don't know what he bid - thats the whole thing.  Thats how eBay works, a
bidder makes a maximum bid, which shows up as the next bid based on the
current bid increment, then eBay automatically raises it up to the maximun
as people bid against you.  So you run a no reserve auction, then a few days
later, bid your reserve.  There are car dealers that make livings doing this
on eBay.  The trick is to use proxy servers to make it look like the
accounts originate and bid at independant IPs, other wise eBay will catch
you and suspend your accounts.

Mike

On 9/27/06, mark maturo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks. I didn't know the terminology.  I've never bid on anything.  I
agree it does sound fishy but wouldn't the seller bid a lot higher to make
people think it was worth more?  And why isn't he showing the
interior?  Also ,the back looks like it is sitting kind of low.

Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Lets see - the no reserve,
the bidder opened an account TODAY, bidder name
is mercedes related but not exactly the product being sold (an attempt to
make people think its a mercedes type person bidding), the bid was placed
15
minutes after the seller answered my question about rust (ie got home from
worked, answered some questions, opened and account and placed a bid).

Shill bidding is bidding that artificially inflates the price of the
auction, ie the seller bidding on his own item under a different name.
While abhored on eBay, the practice is accepted at dealer car auctions,
where half the time, you're bidding against the coke machine in the
corner.

Mike


On 9/27/06, mark maturo wrote:
>
> what is shill bidding?
>
> Michael Hall wrote: If that doesn't reek of
> shill bidding, I dunno what does.
>
> On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >
> > It has one now.
> >
> > andrew strasfogel wrote:
> >
> > > I can't believe it has no bids. The TL lenses alone are worth
$200...
> > >
> > > On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-W123-1981-Mecedes-Benz-300TD-Wagon-300-turbo-diesel-sunroof_W0QQitemZ270033823857QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > >>--
> > >>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> > >>91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
> > >>87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
> > >>84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> > >>http://www.striplin.net
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Re: [MBZ] OT: 15 volt 22 microfarad tantalum capacitor.

[John W. Reames III]

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Jim Cathey wrote:
> frequency noise shunting.  I wouldn't want to use a regular
> electrolytic cap in a harsh environment, but I hate them anyway.
> But one of them in parallel with a decent .1 uF orange drop or
> something would work even better than the tantalum, most likely.
I agree there, but OD's can get huge (thinking [EMAIL PROTECTED])
I recall that BC makes electrolytic caps rated for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SAL-A 
123?), since they are what I used on that CC amp. (most of them seem to 
be 65C rated). I think digi shows some tants still.

> The proper engineering fix involves finding out the failure mechanism,
> using an oscilloscope, etc., then putting in the right component to
> take care of it.  That takes time, knowledge, and equipment that
> most people don't have though.
Yeah *pats 7844,DC504,FG504...*.  Since most of the electrolytics made 
10+yrs ago had a rated life of 2Khrs or less, it is probabably a good bet 
that they are going bad... typically by "leaking" DC, but that takes a 
little setup to test.

> Heck, in that application just try anything.  It won't hurt!
Just beware old used caps since they can have nasty resistance properties.

-j.

Re: [MBZ] Windsheild Washer Reservoir Leak

[Barry Stark]

Mak -
I use Sanfords rubber cement. Stationary store would be the source I guess.
We had a couple of cans of it that the secretaries were tossing. Cut and
paste done a bit differently these days. Brush the stuff on both the door
and the plastic sheet. After it dries you can stick it on. If it doesn't
line up right just peel it away and restick it where you want. The best part
is it won't tear your plastic if you want to pull it loose to work inside
your door.

Barry


>
>
> What type of glue is used to tack the  translucent plastic liners at the
> doors ?
> mak
>

[MBZ] Transmission W123 won't upshift correctly

[Peter Merle]

I have an older 300D W123 with the 711.118 transmission and all of a
sudden it will only upshift based on speed and not throttle position as
well. Furthur it won't go into top gear no matter how high the engine
revs. There are no transmission leaks but level seemed to be low when I
checked it. Added 250 ml of ATF and no change. Kickdown function still
works.  Not sure what to do next! Throttle link appears Ok and working ,
no sure if it has slipped on the splined shaft on the transmission shaft
though.

Regarding level checking , when the engine is not running the level is
some 50 mm or so higher on the dipstick than when engine is running - is
this OK. Furthur the cold fluid level check - is this also done when
engine is running?

Peter

 

Re: [MBZ] Windsheild Washer Reservoir Leak

[Jim Cathey]

What type of glue is used to tack the  translucent plastic liners at 
the

doors ?


I use 3M's 77.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Windsheild Washer Reservoir Leak

[M.Afzaal.Khan]

What type of glue is used to tack the  translucent plastic liners at the 
doors ?

mak
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Windsheild Washer Reservoir Leak



I did successfully repair a cracked washer tank in a 115 300D with hot
glue - it lasted 4 or 5 years.


Shoe Goo: even better.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

[mark maturo]

Thanks. I didn't know the terminology.  I've never bid on anything.  I agree it 
does sound fishy but wouldn't the seller bid a lot higher to make people think 
it was worth more?  And why isn't he showing the interior?  Also ,the back 
looks like it is sitting kind of low.  

Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Lets see - the no reserve, the bidder 
opened an account TODAY, bidder name
is mercedes related but not exactly the product being sold (an attempt to
make people think its a mercedes type person bidding), the bid was placed 15
minutes after the seller answered my question about rust (ie got home from
worked, answered some questions, opened and account and placed a bid).

Shill bidding is bidding that artificially inflates the price of the
auction, ie the seller bidding on his own item under a different name.
While abhored on eBay, the practice is accepted at dealer car auctions,
where half the time, you're bidding against the coke machine in the corner.

Mike


On 9/27/06, mark maturo wrote:
>
> what is shill bidding?
>
> Michael Hall wrote: If that doesn't reek of
> shill bidding, I dunno what does.
>
> On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >
> > It has one now.
> >
> > andrew strasfogel wrote:
> >
> > > I can't believe it has no bids. The TL lenses alone are worth $200...
> > >
> > > On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-W123-1981-Mecedes-Benz-300TD-Wagon-300-turbo-diesel-sunroof_W0QQitemZ270033823857QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> > >>--
> > >>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> > >>91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
> > >>87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
> > >>84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> > >>http://www.striplin.net
> > >>
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> > 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
> > 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
> > 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] How to adjust AC belt, 240D

[LT Don]

'77 240D it appears that you adjust the pulley that is right in front of the
cylinder head.

On 9/27/06, Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


1981 240D with loose AC belt.  Is the adjustment from the top?  What to
loosen?  Is there something like the alternator adjustment set up?

It got too dark for a good look at everything after I got the new water
pump
installed, so, I thought maybe someone has BTDT and save me some pitfalls.

Harry
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Re: [MBZ] How to adjust AC belt, 240D

[Jim Cathey]

change when you snog them back down.


I prefer to use a wrench, myself.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] How to adjust AC belt, 240D

[Scott Ritchey]

On my 82 300SD and 79 300TD, you losen the big bolts that hold the
compressor on and the whole compressor moves with the adjusting screw.  All
done from below.  Only losen enough to move the compressor or thenion will
change when you snog them back down.

Scott Ritchey
Kittrell NC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 10:33 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] How to adjust AC belt, 240D


I have done it but don't remember how.  I think it is from below.  Wish I
remembered so I could tell you.  Maybe someone else can chime in.

Loren
81 240D, awaiting trans transplant  (Actually, I think it will become a
300D and the 240 engine go in the Mojave desert 240)

At 09:20 PM 9/27/2006, you wrote:
>1981 240D with loose AC belt.  Is the adjustment from the top?  What to
>loosen?  Is there something like the alternator adjustment set up?
>
>It got too dark for a good look at everything after I got the new water
pump
>installed, so, I thought maybe someone has BTDT and save me some pitfalls.
>
>Harry
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Re: [MBZ] Windsheild Washer Reservoir Leak

[Jim Cathey]

inserted.  Still leaking.  I'm thinking I should insert the seal into 
the

reservoir and *then* push the pump into the seal.   Maybe that'll work.


I usually do it the other way.  But I don't know much about 67 MGB's.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT: 15 volt 22 microfarad tantalum capacitor.

[Jim Cathey]

Not sure why tantalum was chosen over electrolytics, but here's my 
source

article:

http://www.benplace.com/vanagon_intermittent_syndrome.htm

Maybe I can use an electrolytic, afterall...


No engineering at all, in other words.  Looks like the guy just
grabbed the generic 'good capacitor' and it worked for him.  No
idea if it was the bulk capacitance it needed, or more high
frequency noise shunting.  I wouldn't want to use a regular
electrolytic cap in a harsh environment, but I hate them anyway.
But one of them in parallel with a decent .1 uF orange drop or
something would work even better than the tantalum, most likely.

The proper engineering fix involves finding out the failure mechanism,
using an oscilloscope, etc., then putting in the right component to
take care of it.  That takes time, knowledge, and equipment that
most people don't have though.

Heck, in that application just try anything.  It won't hurt!

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Windsheild Washer Reservoir Leak

[Jim Cathey]

I did successfully repair a cracked washer tank in a 115 300D with hot
glue - it lasted 4 or 5 years.


Shoe Goo: even better.

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Avoiding downloading huge emails [was: Re: 420SEL timing chain/valve job]

[LT Don]

Yea, that's it. Thanks.

On 9/27/06, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




IMAP. But there's a limit to how much email you can leave on a server...


Craig






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Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking

[Jim Cathey]

Put the new one on and leak is gone. Now I need to wait until some 
numbskull

causes me to stop on the proverbial dime and we'll see if the low idle
problem has been corrected.


Why do you need an extra a-hole around to conduct this test?
(The one you're equipped with should be sufficient!  :-)

-- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Avoiding downloading huge emails [was: Re: 420SEL timing chain/valve job]

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 20:22:04 -0600 Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I run Linux and use poppy for this very purpose. It's at
> 
>  http://freshmeat.net/projects/poppy/

I should have gone to the project's home page (at
http://www.cnpbagwell.com/index.php?n=Projects.HomePage ).

It says, "Poppy has been tested with Perl5 under most favors of Unix and
Windows 9x," so you Winders guys can use it, too.


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Avoiding downloading huge emails [was: Re: 420SEL timing chain/valve job]

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 21:34:41 -0500 "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There is an alternative to POP3 that leaves the mail on the server until
> you delete it ... can't remember the name right now. I am sure someone
> will know what it is called. I was going to play with it from within
> Linux Thunderbird but decided to now mess with success (POP3 and spam
> filters).

IMAP. But there's a limit to how much email you can leave on a server...


Craig

Re: [MBZ] Avoiding downloading huge emails [was: Re: 420SEL timing chain/valve job]

[David Brodbeck]

LT Don wrote:
> There is an alternative to POP3 that leaves the mail on the server until you
> delete it ... can't remember the name right now. I am sure someone will know
> what it is called. I was going to play with it from within Linux Thunderbird
> but decided to now mess with success (POP3 and spam filters).
>   

IMAP.  It's my favorite form of remote email.  Not only does it let you
store stuff on the server, you can have multiple folders.  It's handy
when you use multiple computers and want to be able to read your email
from any of them.

Unfortunately, few service providers support it.  POP3 is more common,
probably partly because it lowers disk requirements by discouraging
people from storing mail on the server.

Re: [MBZ] How to adjust AC belt, 240D

[Loren Faeth]

I have done it but don't remember how.  I think it is from below.  Wish I 
remembered so I could tell you.  Maybe someone else can chime in.


Loren
81 240D, awaiting trans transplant  (Actually, I think it will become a 
300D and the 240 engine go in the Mojave desert 240)


At 09:20 PM 9/27/2006, you wrote:

1981 240D with loose AC belt.  Is the adjustment from the top?  What to
loosen?  Is there something like the alternator adjustment set up?

It got too dark for a good look at everything after I got the new water pump
installed, so, I thought maybe someone has BTDT and save me some pitfalls.

Harry
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Re: [MBZ] Avoiding downloading huge emails [was: Re: 420SEL timing chain/valve job]

[LT Don]

There is an alternative to POP3 that leaves the mail on the server until you
delete it ... can't remember the name right now. I am sure someone will know
what it is called. I was going to play with it from within Linux Thunderbird
but decided to now mess with success (POP3 and spam filters).

Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

[Michael Hall]

Lets see - the no reserve, the bidder opened an account TODAY, bidder name
is mercedes related but not exactly the product being sold (an attempt to
make people think its a mercedes type person bidding), the bid was placed 15
minutes after the seller answered my question about rust (ie got home from
worked, answered some questions, opened and account and placed a bid).

Shill bidding is bidding that artificially inflates the price of the
auction, ie the seller bidding on his own item under a different name.
While abhored on eBay, the practice is accepted at dealer car auctions,
where half the time, you're bidding against the coke machine in the corner.

Mike


On 9/27/06, mark maturo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


what is shill bidding?

Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  If that doesn't reek of
shill bidding, I dunno what does.

On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
> It has one now.
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>
> > I can't believe it has no bids. The TL lenses alone are worth $200...
> >
> > On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-W123-1981-Mecedes-Benz-300TD-Wagon-300-turbo-diesel-sunroof_W0QQitemZ270033823857QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >>--
> >>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >>91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
> >>87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
> >>84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> >>http://www.striplin.net
> >>
> >>___
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>
> --
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> 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
> 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
> 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> http://www.striplin.net
>
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[MBZ] Avoiding downloading huge emails [was: Re: 420SEL timing chain/valve job]

[Craig McCluskey]

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:59:11 -0700 David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mitch Haley wrote:
> > Jim Cathey wrote:
> >   
> >> Our ISP, as a service enhancement, has eliminated our webmail
> >interface.
> >
> > I suppose you could either call tech support and ask them to delete
> > the 6mb email message (I did that once back when my modem was 14.4k)
> > or use something like Yahoo mail to download/delete your messages, and
> > the forward the important ones back to yourself. I know Yahoo has a
> > POP download feature, I would assume Gmail has it too.
> >
> I once resorted to telnetting into a POP server to manually delete a
> troublesome message that my email client couldn't handle.  It turns out
> POP is an easy protocol to deal with -- most of the commands are plain
> English.


I run Linux and use poppy for this very purpose. It's at

 http://freshmeat.net/projects/poppy/

"Poppy is a small Perl script that will individually retrieve only the
headers of mail messages from a POP3/IMAP server and then allow you to
view, save, or delete each. This is especially good for systems with
limited resources like limited disk space, slow connectivity, or no GUI.
It is also good for managing your mailbox when your normal mail reader is
setup not to delete mail off the server or is having problems downloading
large emails."


Works great.


Craig

[MBZ] How to adjust AC belt, 240D

[Harry Watkins]

1981 240D with loose AC belt.  Is the adjustment from the top?  What to
loosen?  Is there something like the alternator adjustment set up?

It got too dark for a good look at everything after I got the new water pump
installed, so, I thought maybe someone has BTDT and save me some pitfalls.

Harry

Re: [MBZ] OT: 15 volt 22 microfarad tantalum capacitor.

[David Brodbeck]

Zeitgeist wrote:
> Not sure why tantalum was chosen over electrolytics, but here's my source
> article:
>   

IIRC, tantalum caps have a wider temperature range and narrower
tolerances.  (Electrolytics are usually no better than +/- 10%, with
+20/-10% not being uncommon.)  Electrolytics also have a limited life
span -- eventually they dry out.  Finally, they're less compact.

All Electronics has tantalums, but I think they have a minimum order:
http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category/140800/Tantalum.html
Digi-Key has been aggressively removing items from their catalog that
contain heavy metals and toxic substances, so that's probably why you
can't find them there.  There's a big push in the electronics industry
to use less toxic materials, especially in Europe, where companies are
required to take devices back for recycling.

> http://www.benplace.com/vanagon_intermittent_syndrome.htm
>   

It looks like they're using the capacitor as a filter to shunt noise to
ground. The value is probably non-critical.  I'm not sure why they don't
want you to use an electrolytic.  This seems like a classic application
for one.  It may be the engine compartment is too hot for them.

I always kind of suspected the underlying problem was that the
mechanical AFMs would get worn spots where the signal would get "noisy,"
kind of like a scratchy volume control.  I never had a van with "Vanagon
syndrome," or I'd have attached an oscilloscope and found out.

Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

[mark maturo]

what is shill bidding?

Michael Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  If that doesn't reek of shill bidding, 
I dunno what does.

On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
>
> It has one now.
>
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
>
> > I can't believe it has no bids. The TL lenses alone are worth $200...
> >
> > On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-W123-1981-Mecedes-Benz-300TD-Wagon-300-turbo-diesel-sunroof_W0QQitemZ270033823857QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >>--
> >>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> >>91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
> >>87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
> >>84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> >>http://www.striplin.net
> >>
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> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
> 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
> 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
> 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> http://www.striplin.net
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Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Well it has one bid, not sure why that would indicate shill bidding.

Michael Hall wrote:


If that doesn't reek of shill bidding, I dunno what does.



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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Windsheild Washer Reservoir Leak

[Richard Smith]

The easy fix is to replace the VW with a Mercedes. Poof the leak is fixed!

On 9/27/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The tank in my 300D 2.5 was reported to be leaking when I bought it -
turned out to be the hose within a 1/4 inch of the pump fitting --
easy fix (but I lost the heated tube feature).

I did successfully repair a cracked washer tank in a 115 300D with hot
glue - it lasted 4 or 5 years.

On 9/27/06, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Take the tank out, install the pump, fill, look for leaks and see where
it
> leaks?
> --
> Luther   KB5QHU


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Norman, OK
"The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the alternatives."
Sir Winston Churchill
'90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

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Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

[Michael Hall]

If that doesn't reek of shill bidding, I dunno what does.

On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It has one now.

andrew strasfogel wrote:

> I can't believe it has no bids.  The TL lenses alone are worth $200...
>
> On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-W123-1981-Mecedes-Benz-300TD-Wagon-300-turbo-diesel-sunroof_W0QQitemZ270033823857QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>--
>>Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>>91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
>>87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
>>84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
>>http://www.striplin.net
>>
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
  87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
  84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Re: [MBZ] cheap wagon

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

It has one now.

andrew strasfogel wrote:


I can't believe it has no bids.  The TL lenses alone are worth $200...

On 9/27/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-W123-1981-Mecedes-Benz-300TD-Wagon-300-turbo-diesel-sunroof_W0QQitemZ270033823857QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] 420SEL timing chain/valve job

[David Brodbeck]

Mitch Haley wrote:
> Jim Cathey wrote:
>   
>> Our ISP, as a service enhancement, has eliminated our webmail interface.
>> 
>
> I suppose you could either call tech support and ask them to delete the
> 6mb email message (I did that once back when my modem was 14.4k) or use
> something like Yahoo mail to download/delete your messages, and the
> forward the important ones back to yourself. I know Yahoo has a POP
> download feature, I would assume Gmail has it too.
>   

I once resorted to telnetting into a POP server to manually delete a
troublesome message that my email client couldn't handle.  It turns out
POP is an easy protocol to deal with -- most of the commands are plain
English.

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

you should be sending this to the other lists as well, SL, vets, etc.

Rusty wrote:


http://dunwoodynorth.org/dndc/index.htm
 
This is where the Q will be held this year, October 28th from 12:00pm

till 5:00pm. Barbeque Pork & Chicken, Baked Beans, Mac & Cheese, Slaw,
Soft Drinks, Cold Beer & Wine. So far, we have over 50 RSVP's. Don't
delay, call or email and tell us your coming. Bring your wife, your
girlfriend, your pet. Bring you car so we call all gaze at it. It's the
event of the year. People are coming from Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Arkansas,
New Jersey, shoot, from all over the World. How can you pass up a chance
to see rusty, patched up old beater Benzes? You also get to meet Jabba
the Hurst aka Docktor Fatty. All this for free. Any questions, call
Rusty @ 1-800-741-5252. 
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Almost Stalls After Agressive Braking

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Replace the pump, then see what it does.

Bob Rentfro wrote:


Each time I have to brake agressively, the engine almost stalls. The idle drops 
way below what it normally is and it doesn't recover unless I give it a bit of 
fuel with the foot feed. Today it happened again after some clown cut me off at 
a light, so I put it in neutral before it stalled and placing it in neutral had 
no effect.

Ideas? Is this a known precursor to something. Is my brake booster stealing vacuum from the shutoff valve...wait that would make it stay running.  

Also...I've developed a wicked fuel leak (leaks a puddle the size of a trash can lid in 10 minutes) around the primer pump, but the odd thing is that some of the fuel is pooling in the recess on the top of the handle of the primer pump and it doesn't appear like it's leaking from above. 


Time to get fuely.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 159K
'87 Acura Legend  177K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] Where is Marshall?

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

That is why the proper use of subject lines comes into play.  The list 
would be rather boring if no off topic stuff was allowed.  This list is 
light in the off topic department compared to the competition, but not 
ad dry as some of the others.  I like to think its a near perfect balance.


Dennis Perkins wrote:

Could it be that this list seems to stray from MB interest to other areas 
thusly adding to the load of stuff that has to be looked at.


Dennis Perkins
84 300SD




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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 420SEL,
 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 86 300SDL, 84 380SE, 84 190D 2.2,
 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.striplin.net