[MBZ] pulling gasser injectors??

2007-08-22 Thread E M
Hi Everyone,

Next thing I'd like to do on the w124 gasser with a 3.0L engine is pull the
fuel injectors.  Ok, the questions, the fuel lines are ridged, so unlike my
other car with CIS, I guess I'll have to remove the lines first before
taking out the injectors?  Ok, so with a stone cold engine, can I just undo
the nut on the line that connects to the injector?  I know CIS is under more
than 100psi, but won't a rag over it do to catch the fuel mist? Also, I
notice a bracket that seems to prevent the injector from turning while the
fuel line is being attached or removed.  That bracket seems to be held in
place with a hex bolt.  So, with the fuel line removed, and the bracket
removed, what to expect next??  Does the injector just push in, using an "O"
ring like my other car with CIS?  There seems to be a while or off white
washer that sits just ontop of the head, and the injector goes through it.
Does this remain in the head when you pull the injector?  Looks like a good
spot for an air leak, hee hee.  So, putting it all back together, is there a
procedure for bleeding the air out of the fuel lines, or just crank it and
let the fuel pump purge the air?

Any tips offered is much appreciated, other than telling me not to do it,
because you know I am!  hee hee  :-)

Thanks everyone.

Ed
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Re: [MBZ] wacho the insane needs this for his 240D

2007-08-22 Thread E M
NOS ??  :-)

Ed
300E

On 23/08/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:20:38 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-MARINE-DIESEL-ENIGINE-BOAT-MOTOR-MEGATECH-MERCEDES_W0QQitemZ260152330830QQihZ016QQcategoryZ50441QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>
> The title of the auction says, "NEW MARINE DIESEL ENIGINE BOAT MOTOR
> MEGATECH MERCEDES," but in the body of the auction, it says, "WITH MORE
> THAN 14 YEARS OF ENGINE BUILDING EXPERIENCE USING MERCEDES-BENZ ENGINES."
>
> So which is it?
>
> Also, his negative feedback as a buyer is interesting.
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>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Gorilla lug wrench

2007-08-22 Thread E M
A ha, so he's the bugger who put my wheels on last time!!! :-)

Ed
300E

>
> >> This is a REAL wrench.  Torque wrench, that is.  I'll
> >> elaborate later.
> >>
> >
> >
> >> Name: Wrenches in San Simeon.jpg
> >> Type: image/jpeg
> >> Size: 87096 bytes
> >> Desc: 4147941065-Wrenches in San Simeon.jpg
> >> Url :
> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070822/1e8b0cd2/attachment.jpg
> >>
> >
> >
> > Woah.  Is that really necessary?  ;)
> >
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Re: [MBZ] wacho the insane needs this for his 240D

2007-08-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:20:38 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-MARINE-DIESEL-ENIGINE-BOAT-MOTOR-MEGATECH-MERCEDES_W0QQitemZ260152330830QQihZ016QQcategoryZ50441QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


The title of the auction says, "NEW MARINE DIESEL ENIGINE BOAT MOTOR
MEGATECH MERCEDES," but in the body of the auction, it says, "WITH MORE
THAN 14 YEARS OF ENGINE BUILDING EXPERIENCE USING MERCEDES-BENZ ENGINES."

So which is it?

Also, his negative feedback as a buyer is interesting.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] WAS O/T Router NOW OT Sprinter Plug-in Hybrid delivery vans

2007-08-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:51:41 -0400 "andrew strasfogel"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jenny Mandel, *Greenwire* reporter
> 
> In a test designed to provide feedback on its advanced lithium ion
> technology, battery manufacturer Johnson Controls-Saft will convert a
> fleet of Dodge Sprinter delivery vans into plug-in hybrids, the company
> announced yesterday.

> On 8/22/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > You want wireless or wired?  It doesn't really matter I guess, I use
> > LinkSys stuff which seems to be fine, Belkin makes stuff (I have read
> > where they are a bit easier to set up, but the LinkSys is not hard),
> > and some other kinds.  They also come in various speeds (designated by

How about starting a brand-new email rather than replying to someone
else's thread? That way it's not threaded in with all the other email.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] instuction for hooking up Alpine cd changer 91-93 models, ATTN Larry

2007-08-22 Thread Luther
Ah, the main reason I will never own an Alpine.  They do not support anything 
older than 3 years on their website.  Not very helpful to the DIY person..

Luther

On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:21:51 -0500, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Kaleb,
> My Alpine Changer is up and running perfectly.  I was wondering if you have
> an Owners Manual for the CHM-S600?  Alpine does not have it on their site.
>
> Mostly I'm trying to learn what kinds of files the changer will recognize
> and play?
>
> Any ideas?
> Thx -
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Gorilla lug wrench

2007-08-22 Thread Hendrik
Yup a man's gotta have a big torque wrench, however he also has to have 
a big machine to use it on.
The difference between men and boys is the size of the toys.

John Robbins wrote:
> LWB250 wrote:
>   
>> This is a REAL wrench.  Torque wrench, that is.  I'll
>> elaborate later.
>> 
>
>   
>> Name: Wrenches in San Simeon.jpg
>> Type: image/jpeg
>> Size: 87096 bytes
>> Desc: 4147941065-Wrenches in San Simeon.jpg
>> Url : 
>> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070822/1e8b0cd2/attachment.jpg
>>  
>> 
>
>
> Woah.  Is that really necessary?  ;)
>
> John
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[MBZ] 380SL ignition followup

2007-08-22 Thread Loren Faeth
Thanks to all who contributed ideas.  Using info provided by Robert 
Bingham, I was able to verify the coil and distributor pickup were 
ok.  Based on that info, I bit the bullet and ordered the ignition 
control module from Rusty.  He has 3 to choose from, the most 
expensive being the Bosch OEM unit.  I chose the least expensive, 
which looks dissimilar from the OEM unit.  It does mount in the 
original position using the original screws.  After 3 weeks of 
running, there have been no more ignition problems.

I think that was it.  I thought so ahead of time, but I didn't want 
to spend $560 on an experiment.

I believe Jim Cathey's method of resoldering would have fixed the old 
unit.  The old ICU is available to anyone who likes to solder as an 
experiment.  If you want to try a resolder of a $560 ICU, contact me 
offlist and I will provide the subject for your experiment.

Please folks, ASK RUSTY FIRST before you order parts from anywhere 
else!  He saved me a bunch of bucks on this one!  If you don't know 
how to contact Rusty, read the bottom of every email on this 
list!  And don't forget to check with Kaleb for used parts.  He 
provides the list for us.

Loren



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Re: [MBZ] OT Gorilla lug wrench

2007-08-22 Thread John Robbins
LWB250 wrote:
> This is a REAL wrench.  Torque wrench, that is.  I'll
> elaborate later.

> Name: Wrenches in San Simeon.jpg
> Type: image/jpeg
> Size: 87096 bytes
> Desc: 4147941065-Wrenches in San Simeon.jpg
> Url : 
> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20070822/1e8b0cd2/attachment.jpg
>  


Woah.  Is that really necessary?  ;)

John

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Re: [MBZ] OT Gorilla lug wrench

2007-08-22 Thread LWB250
Take note - there was an attachment at the bottom of
the previous post.  Looks like the link was lost in
the clutter.

Dan


--- LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This is a REAL wrench.  Torque wrench, that is. 
> I'll
> elaborate later.
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> --- Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I just received two of what they call "Gorilla
> Power
> > Wrench" for $35.81
> > delivered.  They come with two sockets, each with
> > two sizes; 17, 19 (3/4),
> > 21 (13/16), and 23 MM (7/8).  Appears to be pretty
> > stout.  It telescopes
> > from about 13" to 18" and comes with a snap bag
> for
> > storage.  I tried it out
> > and like it.
> > 
> > I got mine through Amazon. com, $12.91 each plus
> > shipping.
> > 
> > No benefit for me, just passing on something I
> think
> > will help my wife with
> > a tire change, and she can do it.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl -w 126

2007-08-22 Thread dave walton
Decompressing a loose spring - and having to recompress it while
detached, may be more dangerous than just leaving it alone.

-Dave Walton

On 8/22/07, Hendrik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ?
> Not necessary with a proper compression tool, however even if only
> removing one spring it is still a good idea to let the tension off it.
> To be sure.
>
> Rich Thomas wrote:
> > When you take that thing out go put it somewhere behind the barn in a
> > deep hole unless you decompress it.
> >
> > --R
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Re: [MBZ] OT Gorilla lug wrench

2007-08-22 Thread LWB250
This is a REAL wrench.  Torque wrench, that is.  I'll
elaborate later.

Dan


--- Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just received two of what they call "Gorilla Power
> Wrench" for $35.81
> delivered.  They come with two sockets, each with
> two sizes; 17, 19 (3/4),
> 21 (13/16), and 23 MM (7/8).  Appears to be pretty
> stout.  It telescopes
> from about 13" to 18" and comes with a snap bag for
> storage.  I tried it out
> and like it.
> 
> I got mine through Amazon. com, $12.91 each plus
> shipping.
> 
> No benefit for me, just passing on something I think
> will help my wife with
> a tire change, and she can do it.
> 
> Harry
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[MBZ] 350 sdl -w 126 Steering knuckle

2007-08-22 Thread Constantine N. Polites
In the EPC you will find the Steering Knuckle in group 33, front axle.  
It is item 5.  The MB part number is A 116 330 4120.
Constantine

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Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl -w 126

2007-08-22 Thread Hendrik
?
Not necessary with a proper compression tool, however even if only 
removing one spring it is still a good idea to let the tension off it. 
To be sure.

Rich Thomas wrote:
> When you take that thing out go put it somewhere behind the barn in a 
> deep hole unless you decompress it.
>
> --R
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Belching moose add to global warming

2007-08-22 Thread Harry Watkins
where did he bite her?  In the arm, or was it in New York?  I forgot, but I
seem to remember that the moose claimed she bit him.

Harry


On 8/22/07, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> ... a moose once bit my sister
>
>
> Dan (who also enjoys llamas)
>
>
> --- R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I think I shall apply for a government grant to
> > study the issue to see if Canadian Moose emit
> > similar quantities of
> > gas to those in Norway and perhaps a means of
> > collecting gas for the heating of homes. I shall
> > want to hire a few
> > low paid workers to roam through the bush looking
> > for Moose of course as I won't wish to leave my
> > cushy office.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > Rich Thomas
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:07 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: [MBZ] Belching moose add to global warming
> >
> >
> > We're doomed!!!  Take action now!  Or maybe just the
> > Norwegians. Wait,
> > isn't it cold in Norway like most of the year?
> > Maybe they need more
> > meese farting.
> >
> > --R  (OK I know I should have waited for Friday, but
> > by then this
> > article would have been stale, and maybe caused
> > irreparable harm by then)
> >
> >
>
> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070822191234.dt1zpz8z&show_article=1&catnum=0
> >
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Re: [MBZ] CHM-S600

2007-08-22 Thread RELNGSON
<>

Why would you need one? It's plug and play. I installed that model in my '95 
C280 12 years ago.

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Re: [MBZ] Experts Tie Pigeon Poop, Bridge Collapse

2007-08-22 Thread Tom Hargrave
As long as they don't poop on my handguns

Thanks,
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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 7:26 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Experts Tie Pigeon Poop, Bridge Collapse

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8R69M2O0&show_article=1&catnum=0

I would suggest everyone immediately go out to their cars and check the 
steering components and control arms to make sure there are no pigeons 
roosting on them and leaving guano deposits that could cause premature 
failure of suspension elements through accelerated corrosion leading to 
loss of control and crashes.  Seriously, according to experts.  You 
might want to tie a cat to your front bumper overnight, starting early 
evening, to ward the pigeons away.

Word up.

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[MBZ] Experts Tie Pigeon Poop, Bridge Collapse

2007-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8R69M2O0&show_article=1&catnum=0

I would suggest everyone immediately go out to their cars and check the 
steering components and control arms to make sure there are no pigeons 
roosting on them and leaving guano deposits that could cause premature 
failure of suspension elements through accelerated corrosion leading to 
loss of control and crashes.  Seriously, according to experts.  You 
might want to tie a cat to your front bumper overnight, starting early 
evening, to ward the pigeons away.

Word up.

--R


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Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl -w 126

2007-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas
When you take that thing out go put it somewhere behind the barn in a 
deep hole unless you decompress it.

--R

Hendrik wrote:
> No, photos are not really helpful, it is a matter of just doing it. 
> Making sure everything is nicely aligned before compression and stopping 
> if things don't appear right.
> The only photos that would be helpful are ones that show things when 
> they are not right, so you know when you have gone off track.
> As I said, it is not a difficult job bit one where care has to be taken.
> I am not sure what you mean by steering knuckle, could you be a bit more 
> specific?
>
> Constantine N. Polites wrote:
>   
>> Actually I do have the Klann tool.  I also have the CD with the details 
>> and some photographs.  I only wanted the photographs in case I missed 
>> something. Photographs might be helpful.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check the steering knuckle for conformity?  The 
>> manual simply states if in doubt throw it out.
>>
>> Constantine
>>   
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Re: [MBZ] wacho the insane needs this for his 240D

2007-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas
It would then be a 1200D

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Re: [MBZ] why cant they just go back to using Daimler-Benz?

2007-08-22 Thread Hendrik
If you had read the entire article you would have seen that the 
stakeholder will meet on Oct 4th to decide a name.
Perhaps you could buy some stock and head on down to voice your opinion.
I think part of the reason for the Daimler only name is that they don't 
want to admit that they made a big stuff up and just using Daimler is a 
way of saying that this is all part of natural progression, whereas 
going back to DB would be an admission that DC was a mistake.

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] 350 sdl -w 126

2007-08-22 Thread Hendrik
No, photos are not really helpful, it is a matter of just doing it. 
Making sure everything is nicely aligned before compression and stopping 
if things don't appear right.
The only photos that would be helpful are ones that show things when 
they are not right, so you know when you have gone off track.
As I said, it is not a difficult job bit one where care has to be taken.
I am not sure what you mean by steering knuckle, could you be a bit more 
specific?

Constantine N. Polites wrote:
> Actually I do have the Klann tool.  I also have the CD with the details 
> and some photographs.  I only wanted the photographs in case I missed 
> something. Photographs might be helpful.
>
> Does anyone know how to check the steering knuckle for conformity?  The 
> manual simply states if in doubt throw it out.
>
> Constantine
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[MBZ] wacho the insane needs this for his 240D

2007-08-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] O/T Router

2007-08-22 Thread Redghost
The "N" speed is not yet a standard and will not become one for at  
least a year.  One could get a router that is N speed, but should  
also purchase the same brand N cards for use in laptop.  Keeps things  
flowing well since the compatibility in by no mean guaranteed else wise


On 22 Aug 2007, at 12:17, Rich Thomas wrote:

> You want wireless or wired?  It doesn't really matter I guess, I use
> LinkSys stuff which seems to be fine, Belkin makes stuff (I have read
> where they are a bit easier to set up, but the LinkSys is not  
> hard), and
> some other kinds.  They also come in various speeds (designated by
> letters, N is now the fastest, G was before) but that is more for  
> inside
> your home network as your speed will be limited by your net cnxn.  You
> will probably need a DSL or cable modem too, into which the router
> plugs.  The slower routers are cheap, I have seen some new for $25,
> modems about that too.  The faster routers are up to $100.  You might
> just check around to see if you can find someone's used one if they  
> have
> upgraded to a faster one.
>
> --R
>
> Peter T. Arnold wrote:
>> I need to start using a laptop.
>>
>> Time for me to learn about this newfangled WiFire stuff.
>>
>> Could someone aim me at a good Router for my home use (P/C(s) to
>> laptop}.
>>
>> I use WINDOZ and Broadband.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Peter T. Arnold
>>
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>> 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
>> Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car  
>> that is!
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[MBZ] why cant they just go back to using Daimler-Benz?

2007-08-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUKL2289133020070822?rpc=44


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Re: [MBZ] O/T Router

2007-08-22 Thread Redghost
I have a great little hardware firewall up on eBay.  Used for small  
business applications and retails for $500.  I am sure you can bid  
less than that.  Should provide a bit more security than M$ has in  
mind for you.

http://tinyurl.com/2vy43d

On 22 Aug 2007, at 11:45, Tom Hargrave wrote:

> Any of the major brands work well & the feedbacl you'll get will be
> based on users opinion of the setup menu.
>
> I'm assuming you will be connecting to the internet? Then don't bother
> with anyone's 2X or Speedboost technology - get a straight wireless G
> router (they all make them).  The reason is that even wireless G is
> faster than an internet connection.
>
> Tom
> www.kegkits.com
>
> Original Message
> From: Peter T. Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 08/22/07 01:36 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] O/T  Router
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> I need to start using a laptop.
>
> Time for me to learn about this newfangled WiFire stuff.
>
> Could someone aim me at a good Router for my home use (P/C(s) to
> laptop}.
>
> I use WINDOZ and Broadband.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter T. Arnold





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1995 E300D - Cleo
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Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage

2007-08-22 Thread Redghost
It was a more cosmetic than actual needed repair.  The manual shift  
was sloppy, the bushings at the trans were dead, so I put new ones  
in.  Screwed up the engagement of gears and seem to have locked it.

To prevent repeats, I will now take car and idiot self to BiL who  
earns a living mechanically, and we will have oversight as I screw  
things up.  He will then step forward to apply corrective whacks with  
snap on tools upside my head so that I cease further work.  Then we  
will figure out how to unfornicate the mess I made so as not to  
require expensive visits to AAA shop




On 22 Aug 2007, at 10:41, R A Bennell wrote:

> Well, if I recall, your car did need work and you tried to fix it  
> but ran into a problem. Don't feel bad - most of
> us have been there and done that. Just figure out what is was that  
> went wrong so that you don't repeat the scenario
> next time. Put the cost down as "educational expense".
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Redghost
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:30 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
>
>
> Now quit that!  Gump will be coming out of the shop this week.  I
> swear I thought I could do the fix, though it was not a real "needed"
> repair.  How was I to know I would booger it all up?
>
> clay
>
> On 21 Aug 2007, at 14:06, R A Bennell wrote:
>
>> Ah So! Remember first rule of car repair! Do not fix things that
>> are not broken!
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:53 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
>>
>>
>> Very good insight. Of course maybe I just like your input because it
>> makes me feel happier than the news that I might need valve seals or
>> worse in an engine that supposedly ony has about 115k mi. on it. :)
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On 8/21/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I admit that I have not read all of the posts on this thread, so
>>> bear with me if someone else has already
>> suggested
>>> this.
>>> Since you talk about backing out of the garage and up the hill, is
>>> it not possible that it is just because you
>> are
>>> putting the vehicle under load when it is  not yet warmed up? More
>>> smoke and a bit of oil might just be an issue
>>> while it is cold.
>>>
>>> I had a situation with my old 68 Chevy pickup a few years back. I
>>> was trying to back a travel trailer up an
>> incline
>>> in a spot with little room to manouver and as such could get no
>>> run at it at all. By the time I got the trailer
>> up
>>> the hill the truck was blowing blue smoke real bad. I assumed that
>>> I had damaged the motor by forcing it to move
>>> the trailer up the hill at low speed. However, that was in 1991. I
>>> still have the truck and it is not using oil.
>> It
>>> did not seem to suffer any long term issue. It just did it the one
>>> time when I put a real load on it.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:46 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
>>>
>>>
>>> It's not using much oil at all. I have a leak at the oil filter  
>>> lines
>>> that attach to the block. And with this, the level goes down maybe a
>>> pint every, well, so often. I don't put many miles on the thing - I
>>> try not to drive very much. Am fortunate enough to be able to  
>>> bicycle
>>> much more than I drive.
>>>
>>> Another note: I recently added oil. The level was just above the add
>>> mark, and this with the engine completely cold and not run for a day
>>> or so. So I assumed that if it were to be run and cooled and the
>>> level
>>> checked, the level would be a bit lower. So I intended to add a  
>>> pint,
>>> which I thought would bring the level up to half way between the add
>>> and full marks - where it should be, right? But I accidentally added
>>> 2/3 of a quart. So perhaps its being a bit fuller than it likes
>>> contributes to the described smoking condition?
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> 83 240D
>>>
>>> On 8/21/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 The joker in me says "your car is always burning oil" thats what
 OM616 means.

 Is the car actually burning oil, like is the oil level going
 down? I for one wouldn't worry about it until
>> you're
>>> going through oil like the Exxon Valdez...

 -Curt

 Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:21:39 -0700
 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Subject: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Had a thought this evening as I backed ou

[MBZ] 350 sdl -w 126

2007-08-22 Thread Constantine N. Polites

Actually I do have the Klann tool.  I also have the CD with the details 
and some photographs.  I only wanted the photographs in case I missed 
something. Photographs might be helpful.

Does anyone know how to check the steering knuckle for conformity?  The 
manual simply states if in doubt throw it out.

Constantine

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Re: [MBZ] Belching moose add to global warming

2007-08-22 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
How about a MOG load of moose using the methane to power the MOG. MB
content.
Dwight

Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co
Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
Wickford RI 02852

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of R A Bennell
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 5:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Belching moose add to global warming

I think I shall apply for a government grant to study the issue to see if
Canadian Moose emit similar quantities of
gas to those in Norway and perhaps a means of collecting gas for the heating
of homes. I shall want to hire a few
low paid workers to roam through the bush looking for Moose of course as I
won't wish to leave my cushy office.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:07 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Belching moose add to global warming


We're doomed!!!  Take action now!  Or maybe just the Norwegians. Wait,
isn't it cold in Norway like most of the year?  Maybe they need more
meese farting.

--R  (OK I know I should have waited for Friday, but by then this
article would have been stale, and maybe caused irreparable harm by then)

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070822191234.dt1zpz8z&show_article=1
&catnum=0



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Re: [MBZ] Belching moose add to global warming

2007-08-22 Thread Christopher McCann
There is also a study on greenhouse gasses and termites.

CM



Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We're doomed!!!  Take action now!  Or 
maybe just the Norwegians. Wait, 
isn't it cold in Norway like most of the year?  Maybe they need more 
meese farting.

--R  (OK I know I should have waited for Friday, but by then this 
article would have been stale, and maybe caused irreparable harm by then)

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070822191234.dt1zpz8z&show_article=1&catnum=0
 



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Re: [MBZ] Belching moose add to global warming

2007-08-22 Thread LWB250
... a moose once bit my sister


Dan (who also enjoys llamas)


--- R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think I shall apply for a government grant to
> study the issue to see if Canadian Moose emit
> similar quantities of
> gas to those in Norway and perhaps a means of
> collecting gas for the heating of homes. I shall
> want to hire a few
> low paid workers to roam through the bush looking
> for Moose of course as I won't wish to leave my
> cushy office.
> 
> Randy
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Rich Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:07 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] Belching moose add to global warming
> 
> 
> We're doomed!!!  Take action now!  Or maybe just the
> Norwegians. Wait,
> isn't it cold in Norway like most of the year? 
> Maybe they need more
> meese farting.
> 
> --R  (OK I know I should have waited for Friday, but
> by then this
> article would have been stale, and maybe caused
> irreparable harm by then)
> 
>
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070822191234.dt1zpz8z&show_article=1&catnum=0
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Re: [MBZ] O/T Router

2007-08-22 Thread LWB250
Apple Airport Extreme.

Yeah, yeah, I know - it's an Apple product.  However,
it's set up to work with either Mac or Windoze
platforms, and does it quite well.

Probably one of the nicest features it has is the
capability for a shared printer and network attached
storage, or NAS.  That's any external USB hard drive
you can plug in to the router and all your users have
access to it.  That means you can stick common files,
like music, pictures, docs, etc. on the NAS and anyone
who has rights to the access point can get to them. 
Nice.

MacDan

--- "Peter T. Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I need to start using a laptop.
> 
> Time for me to learn about this newfangled WiFire
> stuff.
> 
> Could someone aim me at a good Router for my home
> use (P/C(s) to
> laptop}.
> 
> I use WINDOZ and Broadband.
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Re: [MBZ] Belching moose add to global warming

2007-08-22 Thread R A Bennell
I think I shall apply for a government grant to study the issue to see if 
Canadian Moose emit similar quantities of
gas to those in Norway and perhaps a means of collecting gas for the heating of 
homes. I shall want to hire a few
low paid workers to roam through the bush looking for Moose of course as I 
won't wish to leave my cushy office.

Randy

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:07 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Belching moose add to global warming


We're doomed!!!  Take action now!  Or maybe just the Norwegians. Wait,
isn't it cold in Norway like most of the year?  Maybe they need more
meese farting.

--R  (OK I know I should have waited for Friday, but by then this
article would have been stale, and maybe caused irreparable harm by then)

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070822191234.dt1zpz8z&show_article=1&catnum=0



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[MBZ] Belching moose add to global warming

2007-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas
We're doomed!!!  Take action now!  Or maybe just the Norwegians. Wait, 
isn't it cold in Norway like most of the year?  Maybe they need more 
meese farting.

--R  (OK I know I should have waited for Friday, but by then this 
article would have been stale, and maybe caused irreparable harm by then)

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070822191234.dt1zpz8z&show_article=1&catnum=0
 



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Re: [MBZ] A/C Question

2007-08-22 Thread Robert & Tara Ludwick
Only problem with that is you need closer to 30" to get any moisture out 
of the system.

---Robert

Trampas wrote:
> A proper running car will pull to about 19" at idle which on the hot days of
> summer around here it is pretty good. 
>
> Trampas
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:19 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
>
> Engine vacuum only pulls down to like half atmospheric (13-14" maybe), 
> not really enough to do any good in an AC system.
>
> --R
>
> Trampas wrote:
>   
>> I changed one on my 300SD and it was relatively easy, on the 420SEL there
>> was an extra brace and it took half the day. If I had to do it again I
>> 
> would
>   
>> remove the dash pad first. 
>>
>> Also to vacuum out the system I have used a vacuum line from the engine.
>> That is start engine connect AC gauge to intake manifold through vacuum
>> 
> line
>   
>> and let engine run (assuming gas engine). However I now have a cheap
>> 
> vacuum
>   
>> pump powered from air compressor that I got from harbor freight for under
>> $20.  
>>
>> Trampas
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:49 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
>>
>>   
>> 
>>> Depends on which car. The expansion valve on the 124 is between the
>>> firewall behind and inboard of the brake booster. On the 126 I expect
>>> it's still behind and above the brake pedal (and an absolute BEAST to
>>> work on).
>>> 
>>>   
>> For the 126 lie on your back with your head next to the gas
>> pedal.  Look up.  You can see it.  Just.  I have no idea how
>> one would actually get a wrench on it, much less two of them
>> to crack the fittings loose.  BEAST is an understatement.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage

2007-08-22 Thread Zoltan Finks
Just to ad another bit of info: I happened to back my car into a
little spot to take the dogs to the beach last evening. As I did so, I
got the same smoke and burning oil smell.

This is really the only time the care smokes noticeably and definitely
the only time it smells this way (to my knowledge).

Brian
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Re: [MBZ] WAS O/T Router NOW OT Sprinter Plug-in Hybrid delivery vans

2007-08-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
Jenny Mandel, *Greenwire* reporter

In a test designed to provide feedback on its advanced lithium ion
technology, battery manufacturer Johnson Controls-Saft will convert a fleet
of Dodge Sprinter delivery vans into plug-in hybrids, the company announced
yesterday.

The vans, made by Chrysler LLC, will be outfitted as plug-in hybrids that
operate primarily on an electric motor and recharge through an outlet.

The delivery vans are slated to be deployed at multiple locations and to be
monitered to provide feedback on how the batteries perform under various
operating conditions.

The vehicles will use lithium-ion batteries that provide more power than
batteries that propel currently available hybrid vehicles, and that are 47
percent lighter than the nickel-metal hydride batteries they replace,
officials said.

"Advanced battery technology is the single most important enabler in making
all types of electric vehicles practical," said Mary Ann Wright, who heads
the joint venture between French energy storage company Saft *(Euronext:
Saft)* and auto battery company Johnson Controls *(NYSE: JCI)*.

She noted that pluggable hybrids, conventional hybrids, electric vehicles
and fuel-cell cars all stand to benefit from advances in lithium battery
technology.

Fleet vehicles are often used for early deployments of new vehicle
technologies because they allow for more controlled use.

In a program run by Internet search company Google's *(NASDAQ:
GOOG)*foundation arm, vehicle use data is being collected on a small
fleet of
Toyota Prius cars with an after-market modification to run as plug-in
vehicles using the battery technology of A123 Systems, a rival of Watertown,
Mass.-based Johnson Controls-Saft.

Lithium ion batteries provide more power than the nickel-metal hydride
technology that is commonly used in conventional vehicles, but they are
prone to overheating and can spontaneously catch fire, a problem that
triggered a massive recall of laptop computer batteries in 2006
(*Greenwire
*, Aug. 10).

Several automakers are pursuing improved lithium ion batteries to overcome
the problem, though the *Wall Street Journal* recently reported that Toyota
officials had indicated a delay in the introduction of lithium-based
pluggable cars linked to the overheating issue
(*Greenwire*,
Aug. 9).


On 8/22/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You want wireless or wired?  It doesn't really matter I guess, I use
> LinkSys stuff which seems to be fine, Belkin makes stuff (I have read
> where they are a bit easier to set up, but the LinkSys is not hard), and
> some other kinds.  They also come in various speeds (designated by
> letters, N is now the fastest, G was before) but that is more for inside
> your home network as your speed will be limited by your net cnxn.  You
> will probably need a DSL or cable modem too, into which the router
> plugs.  The slower routers are cheap, I have seen some new for $25,
> modems about that too.  The faster routers are up to $100.  You might
> just check around to see if you can find someone's used one if they have
> upgraded to a faster one.
>
> --R
>
> Peter T. Arnold wrote:
> > I need to start using a laptop.
> >
> > Time for me to learn about this newfangled WiFire stuff.
> >
> > Could someone aim me at a good Router for my home use (P/C(s) to
> > laptop}.
> >
> > I use WINDOZ and Broadband.
> >
> >
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> >
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> > 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
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Re: [MBZ] A/C Question

2007-08-22 Thread Trampas
A proper running car will pull to about 19" at idle which on the hot days of
summer around here it is pretty good. 

Trampas

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Question

Engine vacuum only pulls down to like half atmospheric (13-14" maybe), 
not really enough to do any good in an AC system.

--R

Trampas wrote:
> I changed one on my 300SD and it was relatively easy, on the 420SEL there
> was an extra brace and it took half the day. If I had to do it again I
would
> remove the dash pad first. 
>
> Also to vacuum out the system I have used a vacuum line from the engine.
> That is start engine connect AC gauge to intake manifold through vacuum
line
> and let engine run (assuming gas engine). However I now have a cheap
vacuum
> pump powered from air compressor that I got from harbor freight for under
> $20.  
>
> Trampas
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:49 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
>
>   
>> Depends on which car. The expansion valve on the 124 is between the
>> firewall behind and inboard of the brake booster. On the 126 I expect
>> it's still behind and above the brake pedal (and an absolute BEAST to
>> work on).
>> 
>
> For the 126 lie on your back with your head next to the gas
> pedal.  Look up.  You can see it.  Just.  I have no idea how
> one would actually get a wrench on it, much less two of them
> to crack the fittings loose.  BEAST is an understatement.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] A/C Question

2007-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Engine vacuum only pulls down to like half atmospheric (13-14" maybe), 
not really enough to do any good in an AC system.

--R

Trampas wrote:
> I changed one on my 300SD and it was relatively easy, on the 420SEL there
> was an extra brace and it took half the day. If I had to do it again I would
> remove the dash pad first. 
>
> Also to vacuum out the system I have used a vacuum line from the engine.
> That is start engine connect AC gauge to intake manifold through vacuum line
> and let engine run (assuming gas engine). However I now have a cheap vacuum
> pump powered from air compressor that I got from harbor freight for under
> $20.  
>
> Trampas
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:49 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
>
>   
>> Depends on which car. The expansion valve on the 124 is between the
>> firewall behind and inboard of the brake booster. On the 126 I expect
>> it's still behind and above the brake pedal (and an absolute BEAST to
>> work on).
>> 
>
> For the 126 lie on your back with your head next to the gas
> pedal.  Look up.  You can see it.  Just.  I have no idea how
> one would actually get a wrench on it, much less two of them
> to crack the fittings loose.  BEAST is an understatement.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] O/T Router

2007-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas
You want wireless or wired?  It doesn't really matter I guess, I use 
LinkSys stuff which seems to be fine, Belkin makes stuff (I have read 
where they are a bit easier to set up, but the LinkSys is not hard), and 
some other kinds.  They also come in various speeds (designated by 
letters, N is now the fastest, G was before) but that is more for inside 
your home network as your speed will be limited by your net cnxn.  You 
will probably need a DSL or cable modem too, into which the router 
plugs.  The slower routers are cheap, I have seen some new for $25, 
modems about that too.  The faster routers are up to $100.  You might 
just check around to see if you can find someone's used one if they have 
upgraded to a faster one.

--R

Peter T. Arnold wrote:
> I need to start using a laptop.
>
> Time for me to learn about this newfangled WiFire stuff.
>
> Could someone aim me at a good Router for my home use (P/C(s) to
> laptop}.
>
> I use WINDOZ and Broadband.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter T. Arnold
>
> 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems!
> 1987 300SDL  280KMI  Inherited by Grandson
> 1995 F-250 PowerChoke  199Kmi
> 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
> Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is!
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Re: [MBZ] A/C Question

2007-08-22 Thread Trampas
I changed one on my 300SD and it was relatively easy, on the 420SEL there
was an extra brace and it took half the day. If I had to do it again I would
remove the dash pad first. 

Also to vacuum out the system I have used a vacuum line from the engine.
That is start engine connect AC gauge to intake manifold through vacuum line
and let engine run (assuming gas engine). However I now have a cheap vacuum
pump powered from air compressor that I got from harbor freight for under
$20.  

Trampas


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Jim Cathey
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:49 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Question

> Depends on which car. The expansion valve on the 124 is between the
> firewall behind and inboard of the brake booster. On the 126 I expect
> it's still behind and above the brake pedal (and an absolute BEAST to
> work on).

For the 126 lie on your back with your head next to the gas
pedal.  Look up.  You can see it.  Just.  I have no idea how
one would actually get a wrench on it, much less two of them
to crack the fittings loose.  BEAST is an understatement.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] O/T Router

2007-08-22 Thread Tom Hargrave
Any of the major brands work well & the feedbacl you'll get will be
based on users opinion of the setup menu. 

I'm assuming you will be connecting to the internet? Then don't bother
with anyone's 2X or Speedboost technology - get a straight wireless G
router (they all make them).  The reason is that even wireless G is
faster than an internet connection.

Tom
www.kegkits.com

Original Message
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Sent: 08/22/07 01:36 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] O/T  Router
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
I need to start using a laptop.

Time for me to learn about this newfangled WiFire stuff.

Could someone aim me at a good Router for my home use (P/C(s) to
laptop}.

I use WINDOZ and Broadband.


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1995 F-250 PowerChoke  199Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
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[MBZ] O/T Router

2007-08-22 Thread Peter T . Arnold
I need to start using a laptop.

Time for me to learn about this newfangled WiFire stuff.

Could someone aim me at a good Router for my home use (P/C(s) to
laptop}.

I use WINDOZ and Broadband.


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Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage

2007-08-22 Thread R A Bennell
Well, if I recall, your car did need work and you tried to fix it but ran into 
a problem. Don't feel bad - most of
us have been there and done that. Just figure out what is was that went wrong 
so that you don't repeat the scenario
next time. Put the cost down as "educational expense".

Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage


Now quit that!  Gump will be coming out of the shop this week.  I
swear I thought I could do the fix, though it was not a real "needed"
repair.  How was I to know I would booger it all up?

clay

On 21 Aug 2007, at 14:06, R A Bennell wrote:

> Ah So! Remember first rule of car repair! Do not fix things that
> are not broken!
>
> Randy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:53 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
>
>
> Very good insight. Of course maybe I just like your input because it
> makes me feel happier than the news that I might need valve seals or
> worse in an engine that supposedly ony has about 115k mi. on it. :)
>
> Brian
>
> On 8/21/07, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I admit that I have not read all of the posts on this thread, so
>> bear with me if someone else has already
> suggested
>> this.
>> Since you talk about backing out of the garage and up the hill, is
>> it not possible that it is just because you
> are
>> putting the vehicle under load when it is  not yet warmed up? More
>> smoke and a bit of oil might just be an issue
>> while it is cold.
>>
>> I had a situation with my old 68 Chevy pickup a few years back. I
>> was trying to back a travel trailer up an
> incline
>> in a spot with little room to manouver and as such could get no
>> run at it at all. By the time I got the trailer
> up
>> the hill the truck was blowing blue smoke real bad. I assumed that
>> I had damaged the motor by forcing it to move
>> the trailer up the hill at low speed. However, that was in 1991. I
>> still have the truck and it is not using oil.
> It
>> did not seem to suffer any long term issue. It just did it the one
>> time when I put a real load on it.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:46 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
>>
>>
>> It's not using much oil at all. I have a leak at the oil filter lines
>> that attach to the block. And with this, the level goes down maybe a
>> pint every, well, so often. I don't put many miles on the thing - I
>> try not to drive very much. Am fortunate enough to be able to bicycle
>> much more than I drive.
>>
>> Another note: I recently added oil. The level was just above the add
>> mark, and this with the engine completely cold and not run for a day
>> or so. So I assumed that if it were to be run and cooled and the
>> level
>> checked, the level would be a bit lower. So I intended to add a pint,
>> which I thought would bring the level up to half way between the add
>> and full marks - where it should be, right? But I accidentally added
>> 2/3 of a quart. So perhaps its being a bit fuller than it likes
>> contributes to the described smoking condition?
>>
>> Brian
>> 83 240D
>>
>> On 8/21/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The joker in me says "your car is always burning oil" thats what
>>> OM616 means.
>>>
>>> Is the car actually burning oil, like is the oil level going
>>> down? I for one wouldn't worry about it until
> you're
>> going through oil like the Exxon Valdez...
>>>
>>> -Curt
>>>
>>> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:21:39 -0700
>>> From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Message-ID:
>>>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>
>>> Had a thought this evening as I backed out my driveway in the 240D.
>>> It's a fairly steep but short driveway.
>>>
>>> I notice that there is an unpleasant amount of smoke when I do
>>> this. I
>>> thought maybe it's just that I notice it since I'm backing into the
>>> exhaust. But tonight I smelled burning oil.
>>>
>>> Was wondering if somehow the angle of the car coupled with the
>>> inertia
>>> of moving backward could cause the engine to burn some oil?
>>>
>>> I don't know how this would specifically work, it's just a bit of
>>> general detective work.
>>>
>>> Brian 83 240D
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Can backing up a hill cause oil drinkage

2007-08-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 8/21/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's why you need to be a chicken liver like me and shy away from
> tasks such as thermostat R&Rs.
>
> Perhaps there is virtue in my fear. Or is it that caution is the
> better part of valor. Heck, now I'm just making stuff up.
>

You're not alone, Brian.  For example, when I was first learning how
to do my own repairs, I shied away from brake jobs for a long time
(despite knowing that they were only a little more difficult than an
oil change) for fear of screwing up something so critical to safe
driving.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al.

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Re: [MBZ] instuction for hooking up Alpine cd changer 91-93 models, ATTN Larry

2007-08-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
nope, sorry

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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] instuction for hooking up Alpine cd changer 91-93 
models,ATTN Larry


> Hi Kaleb,
> My Alpine Changer is up and running perfectly.  I was wondering if you 
> have
> an Owners Manual for the CHM-S600?  Alpine does not have it on their site.
>
> Mostly I'm trying to learn what kinds of files the changer will recognize
> and play?
>
> Any ideas?
> Thx -
>
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "mercedes Mailing List" 
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:18 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] instuction for hooking up Alpine cd changer 91-93 
> models,ATTN
> Larry
>
>
>> Here are the instructions for hooking up an Alpine cd changer using the
>> 2 PIE adaptors for 91-93 models that have the 2 piece radio.  Its the
>> same for 124, 126, 140 and whatever else uses that radio setup.
>>
>> http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/cdchangerhookup/
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>>  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>>  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Mail client

2007-08-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Or use Firefox with a download manager add-in, and tell it where to go, 
launch it from the download bar/menu, etc.  Then you won't have to deal 
much with XP.

--R

Mitch Haley wrote:
> archer wrote:
>   
>> I couldn't find anything about advanced option on search on this version of
>> WinXP. 
>> 
>
> First window, "What do you want to search for?" Click on "all files and 
> folders"
> Next, you should have boxes for file name, file content, drive selection,
> and below the boxes, pull down options menus for "when was it modified", 
> "what size is it", and "More advanced options".
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Re: [MBZ] Mail client

2007-08-22 Thread Hendrik
The temp internet folder is usually buried in your user folder under My 
documents, however it's been a few weeks since I dug around in windows 
and my memory banks are flat out trying to work out Linux. Easiest thing 
is to go back to the download website and click on the download link. 
This should bring up the window where it will tell you the file name and 
the location of the temp folder (you have to follow the directory tree 
up to figure out the path)

archer wrote:
> Thanks. I'll try that tonight.  Will have to get it from Sylpheeds website.
> Gerry
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Mail client

2007-08-22 Thread Mitch Haley


archer wrote:
> I couldn't find anything about advanced option on search on this version of
> WinXP. 

First window, "What do you want to search for?" Click on "all files and folders"
Next, you should have boxes for file name, file content, drive selection,
and below the boxes, pull down options menus for "when was it modified", 
"what size is it", and "More advanced options".

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Re: [MBZ] instuction for hooking up Alpine cd changer 91-93 models, ATTN Larry

2007-08-22 Thread LarryT
Hi Kaleb,
My Alpine Changer is up and running perfectly.  I was wondering if you have 
an Owners Manual for the CHM-S600?  Alpine does not have it on their site.

Mostly I'm trying to learn what kinds of files the changer will recognize 
and play?

Any ideas?
Thx -

Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
.

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "mercedes Mailing List" 
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:18 PM
Subject: [MBZ] instuction for hooking up Alpine cd changer 91-93 models,ATTN 
Larry


> Here are the instructions for hooking up an Alpine cd changer using the
> 2 PIE adaptors for 91-93 models that have the 2 piece radio.  Its the
> same for 124, 126, 140 and whatever else uses that radio setup.
>
> http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/cdchangerhookup/
>
>
> -- 
> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>  92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL,
>  89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>  81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
> http://www.okiebenz.com
>
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>
> -- 
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> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.15/848 - Release Date: 6/13/2007 
> 12:50 PM
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Mail client

2007-08-22 Thread archer
Thanks. I'll try that tonight.  Will have to get it from Sylpheeds website.
Gerry
-
- Original Message - 
From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Did you so a "Search" on the file name? It might be hiding somewhere
> strange.

> On 8/22/07, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> archer wrote:
>> >> I just now downloaded Sylpheed which went to the temp folder.  I 
>> >> looked
>> >> for
>> >> the temp folder via Windows Explorer with no success.  Can someone 
>> >> tell
>> >> me
>> >> where its hiding?  "Search" couldn't find it.
>> >
>> > In search, click on "more advanced options". Then tell it to search in
>> > hidden
>> > and system folders. Micro$hit software sux, doesn't it?
>> > Mitch.
>> ---
>> I couldn't find anything about advanced option on search on this version
>> of
>> WinXP.  I agree, Microsoft has always sucked.  I'm moving to Linux slowly
>> as
>> I learn.
>> Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Mail client

2007-08-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
Did you so a "Search" on the file name? It might be hiding somewhere
strange.

On 8/22/07, archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >> archer wrote:
> >> I just now downloaded Sylpheed which went to the temp folder.  I looked
> >> for
> >> the temp folder via Windows Explorer with no success.  Can someone tell
> >> me
> >> where its hiding?  "Search" couldn't find it.
> >
> > In search, click on "more advanced options". Then tell it to search in
> > hidden
> > and system folders. Micro$hit software sux, doesn't it?
> > Mitch.
> ---
> I couldn't find anything about advanced option on search on this version
> of
> WinXP.  I agree, Microsoft has always sucked.  I'm moving to Linux slowly
> as
> I learn.
> Gerry
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Mail client

2007-08-22 Thread archer

>> archer wrote:
>> I just now downloaded Sylpheed which went to the temp folder.  I looked 
>> for
>> the temp folder via Windows Explorer with no success.  Can someone tell 
>> me
>> where its hiding?  "Search" couldn't find it.
>
> In search, click on "more advanced options". Then tell it to search in 
> hidden
> and system folders. Micro$hit software sux, doesn't it?
> Mitch.
---
I couldn't find anything about advanced option on search on this version of 
WinXP.  I agree, Microsoft has always sucked.  I'm moving to Linux slowly as 
I learn.
Gerry 


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Re: [MBZ] Weather in Ioway

2007-08-22 Thread Wonko the Sane
"Tornado watch" simply means that it is August. Very little excitement until
it flips to a "tornado warning" or until one is actually on the ground
somewhere nearby.

On 8/21/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Well, according to
>
> http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?num=6&delay=15&scale=1.00&noclutter=0&ID=DMX&type=N0R&lat=0&lon=0&label=you&showstorms=100&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0
>
> your county has a red box around it (if the severe weather overlay is
> showing), so that would seem to mean you're under a tornado watch. At
> least if I have your county pinned down correctly.
>
> Craig
>
> _
>



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Re: [MBZ] Mail client

2007-08-22 Thread Hendrik
Nah, God makes lots of idiots and puts them on the planet Earth.

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> And yet your OS is still Microsoft.
>
> Sigh.
>
> God only makes a few idiots. They tend to congregate in Claremore.
>
> D.
>
>
> On 8/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> thats what I am using.  outlook sucks
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] Mail client

2007-08-22 Thread Mitch Haley


archer wrote:
> 
> I just now downloaded Sylpheed which went to the temp folder.  I looked for
> the temp folder via Windows Explorer with no success.  Can someone tell me
> where its hiding?  "Search" couldn't find it.

In search, click on "more advanced options". Then tell it to search in hidden
and system folders. Micro$hit software sux, doesn't it?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings

2007-08-22 Thread Mitch Haley


Redghost wrote:
> 
> Since the 115/114 shared so many parts with the 107, would not a
> transmission set up from that model be a pretty good hook up? 

I met a guy who put a 4sp from a 115 in a 116 300SD, pedals and all.
Said it was a dog off the line until the turbo spooled up.

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Re: [MBZ] Mail client

2007-08-22 Thread archer
I just now downloaded Sylpheed which went to the temp folder.  I looked for 
the temp folder via Windows Explorer with no success.  Can someone tell me 
where its hiding?  "Search" couldn't find it.
Thanks,
Gerry
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From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sylpheed is ef'ing fast. Whoever did the code must have been a minimalist.
> My kind of guy.
> On 8/21/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:01:50 -0500 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> > Either Thunderbird or Sylpheed (Sylpheed perhaps available only for
>> > Linux).
>> I use Sylpheed. It's available for winders, too.
>> http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/
>> Craig


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Re: [MBZ] Mail client

2007-08-22 Thread Peter T . Arnold
On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:35:28 -0500, you wrote:

>I recall the discussion a few weeks back about emails reading and 
>management and such, and wanted to mention something in that regard.  I 
>downloaded the Mozilla Thunderbird client to a laptop I am using while 
>traveling, and this version has some nice features for thread grouping 
>and other things.  I am not sure yet exactly how they work, as it just 
>sorta is there in my new install, but y'all might want to check it out.  
>There are add-ons for it too, I have not loaded any of those, but you 
>can customize the client as you want with them.
>
>No intention to start a lengthy thread about what is better, etc, but I 
>found this rather a pleasant surprise.  It's free!
>
I've used "AGENT" as a mail/new reader since i quit AOL about 10 years
ago.  Pro version is cheap and very full version.  90- day trial is
free, decent support if you have grief.

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Re: [MBZ] Mail client

2007-08-22 Thread Luther
*SNORT, SPIT, COUGH, COUGH*  Damnit, you made me choke on my lunch!

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Quoting Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> And yet your OS is still Microsoft. 
>
> Sigh. 
>
> God only makes a few idiots. They tend to congregate in Claremore. 
>
> D. 
>
>
> On 8/21/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> thats what I am using.  outlook sucks
>>
>>
>>
>



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