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Re: Simple things (visual, usability bugs) ?
2. In the list boxes inside preferences (those with 2 colums), the grid seperating the data cells does not match up with the header cells. The column divider is offset to the left by a few pixels. I find this annoying as well. I think the problem is that the table code doesn't make allowances for the vertical scroll bar. Sounds like http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101482 [follow-ups set to n.p.m.general] -- gav
Password on Profile
Hello I was wondering if there is a way to have a password on each profile? Like on Outlook Express to protect the emails. If this option is not available right now would it be supported in the futur releases?
Re: How can I change Cache location?
You can setup individual user profiles, specifying the location of user's profiles. This would place personal settings, bookmarks and cache information wherever you want to store it. Start Mozilla with -profilemanager command line switch. HTH Steve Al Rider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I've looked all over and can't find what determines the cache location. Would someone point me to it? Thanks...
Font smoothing under linux/kde?
I've installed xFree 4.x, I know it brought me the long-awaited font smoothing. In KDE it works fine. But when I'm surfing the web with moz 0.9.6 I notice that the smoothing isn't active in the browser, is there any way to turn font smoothing on? thanks, jens
Re: Password on Profile
Patrick Chkaiban wrote: Hello I was wondering if there is a way to have a password on each profile? http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16489
Re: New Feature List
Moritz Meinesz wrote: The various Mozilla Programms (Mail, Browser) should have different Icons to be recognizable in the ALT-TAB menue. Best would be s.th like a thumbnail of the webpage they show. You can install the NS 4 icons for Mozilla at this URL: http://www.consultanddesign.com/mozilla/
Re: installing plugin in Mozilla
Hi, Thanks for your answers! I will give a go. This seems complicated to me. I understand that Netscape is using the code of Mozilla for its own release. Why can't the program then recognise Mozilla as a pure Netscape and also look for mozilla? Thanks anyway -- Philippe Travis Crump [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Philippe wrote: Hi, Hopefully this is the place to ask that kind of question :) I am using Mozilla 0.9.2 (soon 0.9.6) and I am very happy with it for one problem I have I can't install any plugin. When I go on a page that requires a plugin and click the link then all I end up with is a page telling mw that it couldn't find a plugin for my browser! What am I doing wrong? Can someone guide me? Thank you -- Philippe Try downloading the plugin for Netscape 6.x, and then manually show it your Mozilla folder. Sometimes mozilla.exe needs to be renamed to netscape.exe during installation of the plugin(and then changed back to mozilla.exe)
strange behaviour
Hi I've been using mozilla 0.9.6 with RH72 for the past 2 weeks (or so) and I've just noticed something. I've just installed flash plugin (Shockwave Flash 5.0 r47) and Java(TM) Plug-in 1.3.1_01. Anyway, when a page loads, whatever fits on the screen appears ok. But when I scroll down, I get a blank page. I have to highlight (mouse) the rest of the text for it to display (and when I scroll up or down again, it disappears). I tried uninstalling the plugins (rm Sock*; rm libf*; rm libjav* from /usr/local/mozilla/plugins) but that still doens't make a dif. I'm not sure why this is happening. Has anyone xperienced this odd behaviour? Thanks. Hilkiah L
Re: Font smoothing under linux/kde?
Jens Kohl wrote: I've installed xFree 4.x, I know it brought me the long-awaited font smoothing. In KDE it works fine. But when I'm surfing the web with moz 0.9.6 I notice that the smoothing isn't active in the browser, is there any way to turn font smoothing on? KDE has anti-aliased (smooth) fonts because it's based on the QT toolkit which supports anti-aliasing. Mozilla doesn't use QT. I don't know about the exact status of Mozilla anti-aliasing, but I think (or hope) it will eventually be there... Maybe this gives more information: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31296 -- Joni
odd behaviour
Hi, I got this problem with 0.9.6/RH72. When I use my mouse wheel to scroll down a page, it's blank!!! If I use pgup/dn or arrow keys it's okay. When I use the mouse wheel, I have to highlight all the 'hidden' stuff for them to appear or hit the refresh button. Anyone else have seen this problem? Thanks Hilkiah -- Sigh. I like to think it's just the Linux people who want to be on the leading edge so bad they walk right off the precipice. (Craig E. Groeschel) ..\ /.. HILKIAH G. LAVINIER, [aka ¥eL10WwU] ...\/... 9 Earls Court SQ., SW5 9BY, London .._||_.. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or ./ ||... [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] .\_||_.. Tel : 0796 807 8247 Fax: 603 697 8299 ...||... ICQ # 8978201, Yahoo: hilkiah, MSN: hilkiahlavinier
.tiff image fails to download
If you go to the following page - http://weather.noaa.gov/fax/surface.shtml#sfconus and download Plot No. 1, under North America, you will find the file name on your hard drive but with zero bytes - the file will be empty. I went over and used IE to see if perhaps there was something wrong with the file itself and it downloaded with no problems. Can someone check this and confirm. I'm using Mozilla (windows XP) build ID: 2001112803. This is a .tiff image. I use my computer extensively for meteorological purposes and downloading files of this type is a norm for me. Thanks -- Wayne Alligood/Amelia Island, Florida Compaq Computer running Windows XP Words rightly spoken are like apples of gold in pictures of silver.
Re: Password on Profile
I do not think that a password for a Profile is needed,but there should be one for Mail.Even more necessary now that there are multiple e-mails. I cannot get anyone in the family to use Messenger because of this. Patrick Chkaiban wrote: Hello I was wondering if there is a way to have a password on each profile? Like on Outlook Express to protect the emails. If this option is not available right now would it be supported in the futur releases?
Re: .tiff image fails to download
WDA wrote: If you go to the following page - http://weather.noaa.gov/fax/surface.shtml#sfconus and download Plot No. 1, under North America, you will find the file name on your hard drive but with zero bytes - the file will be empty. I went over and used IE to see if perhaps there was something wrong with the file itself and it downloaded with no problems. Can someone check this and confirm. I'm using Mozilla (windows XP) build ID: 2001112803. This is a .tiff image. I use my computer extensively for meteorological purposes and downloading files of this type is a norm for me. If I click on it, quicktime tries to load it and it breaks. If I shift-click on it I can save it to my hard drive and then view it fine. I'm using build 2001113003 under Win2k.
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Re: Worth it?
Asa Dotzler wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip As I've been chided here often. Don't make broad brush assumptions. while on 'nix and windows you can do this Netscape 6 and Communicator up to 4.7.8 do conflict with each other. Please stop stating that is if it was the case for everyone. You have a usage pattern which differs from most other users that causes you some problem that no one else can reproduce. I test Mozilla on Mac OS 8.5 (currently busted, no keyboard input) 8.6, 9.1, 9.2.1, 10.0 and 10.1. I also use Communicator 4.x on those machines for compatability testing and bug confirming. There are no problems with running 4.x and Mozilla/6.x on the same machine. --Asa Look you better frequent some of the netscape newsgroups. I can not believe that I am the only one having the problem if the Netscape Champions program recommends not puting both on the same partition on the same hard drive. Its recommended by the Netscape Champions program. NOT to have N6 and Communicator installed on the same Hard drive if using one partition (as i do) or on the same Partition if the drive is paritioned. The netscape Champions program was setup using certain programers and or users with special priviges such as acces to factory Beta software also have access to inside info from Netscape. They even maintain a ufaq. Supposedly they were to change something in Communicator 4.7.9 to prevent the interference howevr; it hasn't changed things. Again if netscape would just change the creator code from MOSS on Netscape 6, to MOSZ or MOZS the problem would be cleared up as currently both N6 and Communicator use MOSS. I don't have any problem with MOZZILLA as far as that goes because Mozz creator code is MOZZ. I can't believe anyone can't see it. And don't say the Type and creator codes are outdated there 4 to the fourth power possible combinations for Type Codes and Creators as well. -- --- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:275-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809 |[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet --- If it's fixed, don't break it! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/america/default.htm http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/message/default.htm
Re: Worth it?
Asa Dotzler wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip The reason why the the browser works but not necessarily mail and news. Is because all emphasis is being placed in the Browser. The Mail and news is considered an after thought. What gives you any authority to make statements like that? Are you involved in any way in the planning that goes into this project. No. Are you being intentionally insulting to the people that work long hours trying to make _all_ of the product better? Are you just bitter or mean? No I am not biter or mean but I am fast getting that way. Its been stated in these newsgroups that emphasis is being placed on the browser first and then its prefected then you will work on Mail and news. I've posted suggestions, I've answered questions (yes some maybe wrong). I've posted bugs. Still no difference. Look get real. I might possibly be the only Mac person on this newsgroup and wishlist. I even subscribe to the Mozilla Mac group sadly it gets posted to once or twice a week and then only one or two post. Mozilla group don't give a Damn about the Mac side of research. They would just as soon see Apple and Mac crash and burn. People have to wake up suppose one day that Apple and Mac is no longer around. That means Mr Gates at microsoft can screw everyone around any way he wants. He will then set his sites on UNIX. He already making noise about open source. (Mozilla and others). So research should be done on the Mac platform not just for the sake of Mac but to keep Mr Gates in line so that you can freely ddesign sofware as you desire. So yes in a way i guess I am downright upset, bitter. And I might be begining to get mean. Go ahead and laugh. But wait 5 - 10 years see how hard you laugh, when every piece of software you get on the planet has to be cleared through Mr gates and his bunch. imagine what the prices will be like even for UNIX. --Asa -- --- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:275-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809 |[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet --- If it's fixed, don't break it! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/america/default.htm http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/message/default.htm
Re: Worth it?
DeMoN LaG wrote: Asa Dotzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 30 Nov 2001: What gives you any authority to make statements like that? Are you involved in any way in the planning that goes into this project. Are you being intentionally insulting to the people that work long hours trying to make _all_ of the product better? Are you just bitter or mean? He's just an asshole. He doesn't bother to read anything, doesn't try to learn anything, does not contribute with bugs or real feedback, and just constantly bitches and mouths off that Mozilla sucks, plugins don't work on the mac (despite other people having no problems), etc. It's quite amusing most of the time -- ICQ: N/A (temporarily) AIM: FlyersR1 9 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ = m Actually I have posted several bugs, and voted on others. (Also take one to know one :-) ) -- --- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:275-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809 |[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet --- If it's fixed, don't break it! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/america/default.htm http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/message/default.htm
Re: installing plugin in Mozilla
Philippe wrote: Hi, Thanks for your answers! I will give a go. This seems complicated to me. I understand that Netscape is using the code of Mozilla for its own release. Why can't the program then recognise Mozilla as a pure Netscape and also look for mozilla? Thanks anyway -- Philippe That is a good question, why don't you ask the plugin makers? Some people have reported this as happening, but for one plugin I don't remember it as being my experience(I think Flash, but I am not sure), and went through my procedure...
no !!!!!!
hey, what the hell have you done to my beloved netscape/mozilla little hand pointer, i want it back !! :( besides, if youre gonna leave this, maybe yous hould also replace the lizard with some blueish rotating m or something, got the point ?
Re: .tiff image fails to download
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WDA wrote: If you go to the following page - http://weather.noaa.gov/fax/surface.shtml#sfconus and download Plot No. 1, under North America, you will find the file name on your hard drive but with zero bytes - the file will be empty. I went over and used IE to see if perhaps there was something wrong with the file itself and it downloaded with no problems. Can someone check this and confirm. I'm using Mozilla (windows XP) build ID: 2001112803. This is a .tiff image. I use my computer extensively for meteorological purposes and downloading files of this type is a norm for me. If I click on it, quicktime tries to load it and it breaks. If I shift-click on it I can save it to my hard drive and then view it fine. I'm using build 2001113003 under Win2k. Their is a notice on their website *NOTICE---* for error-free downloads use the FTP Server ftp://tgftp.nws.noaa.gov/fax which sort of implies that their http downloads are error-filled and it is not Mozilla's fault. If I go to the FTP Server it works(a randomly chosen tif loads in Quicktime when I left click). Though if I locate the specific tif link to for North America Plot 1(QYAA00.tif), it also opens broken just like it does when clicking on the link on the main page.
Re: no !!!!!!
Juan Perez wrote: hey, what the hell have you done to my beloved netscape/mozilla little hand pointer, i want it back !! :( besides, if youre gonna leave this, maybe yous hould also replace the lizard with some blueish rotating m or something, got the point ? hmm, on a second thought, could you please give us the option to us the advanced users to choose our pointer, ive been thinking, ie users will find it friendly to have a similar ui when switching, maybe you should make an IE skin in the installer?? perhaps when installing ask something like: please select the profile that best describes how mozilla will be used or that best describes you 1.- migrating from IE (all the friendly stuff) 2.- public computer (disable auto fill for web forms and passwords, expire history / cache immediatley, etc..) 3.- personal and only personal (completely opposed to public computer) 4.- mozilla classic/default 5.- i dont remember, but there was another one i thought of before of course all of this goes imho.. please comment about it ! :)
Re: no !!!!!!
Juan Perez wrote: hey, what the hell have you done to my beloved netscape/mozilla little hand pointer, i want it back !! :( http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112916
Re: no !!!!!!
On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 20:53:10 +0100, Juan Perez wrote: Juan Perez wrote: hey, what the hell have you done to my beloved netscape/mozilla little hand pointer, i want it back !! :( Could you be more specific to what has changed and which build you're using? besides, if youre gonna leave this, maybe yous hould also replace the lizard with some blueish rotating m or something, got the point ? hmm, on a second thought, could you please give us the option to us the advanced users to choose our pointer, ive been thinking, ie users will find it friendly to have a similar ui when switching, maybe you should make an IE skin in the installer?? perhaps when installing ask something like: please select the profile that best describes how mozilla will be used or that best describes you 1.- migrating from IE (all the friendly stuff) 2.- public computer (disable auto fill for web forms and passwords, expire history / cache immediatley, etc..) 3.- personal and only personal (completely opposed to public computer) 4.- mozilla classic/default 5.- i dont remember, but there was another one i thought of before 4. Netscape 4.x 5. Mozilla/Netscape 6.x of course all of this goes imho.. please comment about it ! :) I think it's a nice idea. Something for the installer or the profile managers new profile wizard. Not much chance of this being picked up till 1.0 though :) - yatsu
Re: Worth it?
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01 Dec 2001: Are you being intentionally insulting to the people that work long hours trying to make _all_ of the product better? Are you just bitter or mean? No I am not biter or mean but I am fast getting that way. Its been stated in these newsgroups that emphasis is being placed on the browser first and then its prefected then you will work on Mail and news. That was never stated by anyone working on or in any way involved with Mozilla. I've posted suggestions, I've answered questions (yes some maybe wrong). I've posted bugs. Still no difference. Look get real. I might possibly be the only Mac person on this newsgroup and wishlist. I even subscribe to the Mozilla Mac group sadly it gets posted to once or twice a week and then only one or two post. Asa just said he runs mozilla on like 4 different Mac OSs. Can you not read? Mozilla group don't give a Damn about the Mac side of research. They would just as soon see Apple and Mac crash and burn. You have no basis of this information. You are just an ignorant dick head that isn't getting his own way. People have to wake up suppose one day that Apple and Mac is no longer around. That means Mr Gates at microsoft can screw everyone around any way he wants. He will then set his sites on UNIX. He's been trying, yet strangely it has accomplished nothing. He already making noise about open source. (Mozilla and others). Let him. Noise about open source is free publicity. So research should be done on the Mac platform not just for the sake of Mac but to keep Mr Gates in line so that you can freely ddesign sofware as you desire. The constitution of the US of A says I can freely design anything, software included. So yes in a way i guess I am downright upset, bitter. And I might be begining to get mean. You have been this way as long as I can remember. Go ahead and laugh. But wait 5 - 10 years see how hard you laugh, when every piece of software you get on the planet has to be cleared through Mr gates and his bunch. imagine what the prices will be like even for UNIX. Yeah... Sure. You seem to imply that the Mac going bye bye would affect Unix somehow? The Mac does not compete in the same market as Unix. The Mac has no bearing on Unix at all. -- ICQ: N/A (temporarily) AIM: FlyersR1 9 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ = m
Builds won't load
I am having a problem with the 20011129 build similar to one I had with the 0.9.6 release, serious enough that I can't use them at all. After downloading, when I try to start Mozilla and load a 4.79 profile, the Mozilla homepage starts to load and then freezes with the progress bar at about the halfway point. The system (Win98) freezes solid - mouse, keyboard, everything dead - and a cold reboot is required. I have tried this importing an existing profile or creating a new one. The only difference is that a new profile loads the first time, and freezes the second, and importing an existing profile freezes the first time. This happens every time and makes even using the program impossible. -- Gord McFee [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I'll write no line before its time
Re: Worth it?
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Asa Dotzler wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip As I've been chided here often. Don't make broad brush assumptions. while on 'nix and windows you can do this Netscape 6 and Communicator up to 4.7.8 do conflict with each other. Please stop stating that is if it was the case for everyone. You have a usage pattern which differs from most other users that causes you some problem that no one else can reproduce. I test Mozilla on Mac OS 8.5 (currently busted, no keyboard input) 8.6, 9.1, 9.2.1, 10.0 and 10.1. I also use Communicator 4.x on those machines for compatability testing and bug confirming. There are no problems with running 4.x and Mozilla/6.x on the same machine. --Asa Look you better frequent some of the netscape newsgroups. I can not believe that I am the only one having the problem if the Netscape Champions program recommends not puting both on the same partition on the same hard drive. Its recommended by the Netscape Champions program. NOT to have N6 and Communicator installed on the same Hard drive if using one partition (as i do) or on the same Partition if the drive is paritioned. I'm sorry but Asa can find out all about the Netscape Champions from some other folks who he works with. Dan Vedits (sorry if I misspelled that) for one. How we came about is history. That we still help with Netscape problems is habit or whatever though we still get some good help from some very good Netscape engineers. The actual recommendation is not to share profiles because of some changes in preferences that can cause surprises and worse. There is nothing special about having Netscape and Mozilla in the same partition. They don't do battle with thermonuclear weapons on you disk drive leaving craters and land mines. It is just that there are occasional problems with preferences when profiles are shared. Asa is right. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill. The exageration is insulting to developers. Dragging in the Netscape Champions is not fair to us because we are always working with the balance that fits the user who asks a question. I am not going to tell a completely green user to fix his problem by writing a Perl script. I will give him guidelines that I consider safe for his level of expertise. Don't be so confrontational. I know Asa's tone is very different when he thinks he can say words that will help. Look for other posts from Netscape and Mozilla developers when they are confronted with a real problem with a real solution or even no solution. They tell you a lot. After all, this is an open source project. We can all know as much or as little as we wish. Chuck -- ... The times have been, That, when the brains were out, the man would die. ... Macbeth Chuck Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Common adress book on network
Hi! I'm installing mozilla on my network at work. We used a shared adressbook with outlook and a private one. I now want to do the same with mozilla. 1 adress book that everyone has and a private one. Can this be done with mozilla? (without LDAP)
nsString status?
Help! (please...!) I've just started delving into the Mozilla framework -- a treasure! Anyway, I'm striving to make sense of the string classes. The only existing docs consist largely of old email messages, which themselves refer to things which are planned (and presumably implemented by now??) The LXR browser is great, but leaves me a bit puzzled. Searching for nsString (as an identifier) in lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey, I find the class definition in mozilla/string/obsolete/nsString2.h. Doing a diff on my /src/mozilla/dist/include/string/nsString.h, I see that is, indeed, the current nsString.h file. So, why is it referred to as obsolete? What's the status on strings? Thanks. - Chuck
Re: no !!!!!!
Juan Perez wrote: , maybe you should make an IE skin in the installer?? At first I thought this was a sarcastic response until I realized that it was posted by the same person, it is very very unlikely that there would be any support for this from any of the people in the Mozilla heirarchy who matter(note: I am not one of the people who matter), which means it is never going to be done. Some people might even oppose it's addition to the tree if someone actually did implement it since it would make Mozilla look like it is trying to clone IE which would make it look inferior. Someone could post it for download elsewhere, but theme capatability as I understand it from other newsgroup posts isn't going to stabilize til 1.0 so it would have to be heavily mantained. As for the other points, the only problem I see with it is that it would encourage people not to look over and customize their preferences which would leave them open to surprises down the road since 4 or 5 options are unlikely to suit everyone.
Solution: Re: dumping in-memory RDF datasource
On Sat, Dec 01, 2001 at 12:09:46AM +0100, Jan Peter Hecking wrote:
is there an easy way to dump an in-memory RDF datasource to either a
file or stdout from within a javascript xpcom component?
Answer: there is. This thread in n.p.m.rdf explains how:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=dethreadm=3AF256D9.503%40netscape.comrnum=2prev=/groups%3Fq%3Drdf%2Bserialize%2Bmozilla%2Bdump%26hl%3Dde%26btnG%3DGoogle-Suche
Note: There's one mistake in the post. The nsIOutputStream should be
created like this:
var out = {
write: function(buf, cound){ dump(buf); return cound; }
};
bye,
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Re: Worth it?
Chuck Simmons wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Asa Dotzler wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: snip As I've been chided here often. Don't make broad brush assumptions. while on 'nix and windows you can do this Netscape 6 and Communicator up to 4.7.8 do conflict with each other. Please stop stating that is if it was the case for everyone. You have a usage pattern which differs from most other users that causes you some problem that no one else can reproduce. I test Mozilla on Mac OS 8.5 (currently busted, no keyboard input) 8.6, 9.1, 9.2.1, 10.0 and 10.1. I also use Communicator 4.x on those machines for compatability testing and bug confirming. There are no problems with running 4.x and Mozilla/6.x on the same machine. --Asa Look you better frequent some of the netscape newsgroups. I can not believe that I am the only one having the problem if the Netscape Champions program recommends not puting both on the same partition on the same hard drive. Its recommended by the Netscape Champions program. NOT to have N6 and Communicator installed on the same Hard drive if using one partition (as i do) or on the same Partition if the drive is paritioned. I'm sorry but Asa can find out all about the Netscape Champions from some other folks who he works with. Dan Vedits (sorry if I misspelled that) for one. How we came about is history. That we still help with Netscape problems is habit or whatever though we still get some good help from some very good Netscape engineers. The actual recommendation is not to share profiles because of some changes in preferences that can cause surprises and worse. There is nothing special about having Netscape and Mozilla in the same partition. They don't do battle with thermonuclear weapons on you disk drive leaving craters and land mines. It is just that there are occasional problems with preferences when profiles are shared. Asa is right. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill. The exageration is insulting to developers. Dragging in the Netscape Champions is not fair to us because we are always working with the balance that fits the user who asks a question. I am not going to tell a completely green user to fix his problem by writing a Perl script. I will give him guidelines that I consider safe for his level of expertise. Don't be so confrontational. I know Asa's tone is very different when he thinks he can say words that will help. Look for other posts from Netscape and Mozilla developers when they are confronted with a real problem with a real solution or even no solution. They tell you a lot. After all, this is an open source project. We can all know as much or as little as we wish. Chuck -- ... The times have been, That, when the brains were out, the man would die. ... Macbeth Chuck Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] Okay please explain for admonition by the Champs Not to place Communicator and netscape 6 on the same partion on your hard Drive. I realize that Mozilla and netscape 6 can actaully use one anothers preferences because the path to preferences is Name (name of Hard Drive) Documents Mozilla User Profile. But i am refering to Communicator and netscape 6. Communicator's preferences are located in System File preferences File Netscape User Folder, Profile Folder. There is no way they can share Preferences. However, The Mac uses both Internet Config and and File Exchange. Both depend upon Type and creator codes. If for example say I want to update Interarchy from with Interarchy and and both Netscape 6 and Communicator are present on same Partition Internet Config /Internet Contol panel will call up netscape 6 instead Communicator as i have set. Throwing away Internet Control panel's preferences make no difference becaus it does a poll of all the applications it finds Communicator with Type APPL Creator MOSS, and it finds Netscape 6 with Type APPL, and Creator MOSS. So guess what happens. Both try to open. But Netscape 6 has code to kill off any other application with the same Type and Creator. SO even though I plainly have set Communicator as the browser to use to go to website to update application (I used Interarchy in this example but it could be anything) netscape 6 comes up. I can repeat this for a thousand years if necessary. It will come up the same. So please explain why I get this problem is its not a conflict between the type and creator code. And Finally I was not trying to Drag the Champions program in to this, other than to state that memebers of the Champs program on the Communicator Mac groups have suggested Not to place N6 and Communicator either on same partition if your drive is partitioned or on the same hard drive because of this problem. No other reason was intended. The Champs program has helped out me a lot
Re: Worth it?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can not believe that I am the only one having the problem if the Netscape Champions program recommends not puting both on the same partition on the same hard drive. replay Installing them on the same disk might mix up icons and the double-clicking associations. Other than that, there is no risk. The icon mix-up does not imply corruption of the contents of the files. The contents are OK. It is only a Finder-level thing. If you don't like the icon mix-up, you can use disk images. You don't need another hard drive. /replay -- Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clinet.fi/~henris/
Re: Builds won't load
Gord McFee wrote: I am having a problem with the 20011129 build similar to one I had with the 0.9.6 release, serious enough that I can't use them at all. After downloading, when I try to start Mozilla and load a 4.79 profile, the Mozilla homepage starts to load and then freezes with the progress bar at about the halfway point. The system (Win98) freezes solid - mouse, keyboard, everything dead - and a cold reboot is required. I have tried this importing an existing profile or creating a new one. The only difference is that a new profile loads the first time, and freezes the second, and importing an existing profile freezes the first time. This happens every time and makes even using the program impossible. could just be an issue with the importing utility.. you have to get it fully converted over first, then it should create a new profile.
full customizable toolbars
Originally posted to the ui newsgroup but i suppose this isn't all about mozilla's looks. i'm sure there's a bug on this, and never being very sucessful with bugzilla i thought i might ask if anyone knew which bug(s) cover this? Also just a few comments on mozilla's gui. 1) Why doesn't the Go button have an icon? 2) How about a clear urlbar icon on the toolbar? 3) Why has there been decided not to show the urlbar seperately from the navbar like N4.x? 4) It'd be nice to have a simple option to turnoff menubar grippies like IE's lock toolbars. 5) When using the block images feature shouldn't mozilla show the server's url in the context menu? 6) Any plans on copying the fontsizing feature to the navbar? 7) Will fontsizing eventually be stored on a page to page basis? - yatsu
Re: Pre-alpha: Privacy Manager dialog
Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey ho, I've created a dialog designed for deleting all the stuff collated in various places throughout Mozilla as you surf the web. By stuff, I mean cookies, history, permissions, etc. This probably sounds quiet vague.. take a look at http://www.pncl.co.uk/~mhardy/privacymanager/ for info and download a very early release. Feedback welcome! Requires moz 0.9.6. A fine idea; looks nice! Dan
Re: Common adress book on network
Jadzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! I'm installing mozilla on my network at work. We used a shared adressbook with outlook and a private one. I now want to do the same with mozilla. 1 adress book that everyone has and a private one. Can this be done with mozilla? (without LDAP) Yes; see http://abzilla.mozdev.org/ Dan
Re: Worth it?
DeMoN LaG wrote: -snip- You have been this way as long as I can remember. Actually, when i first started on these groups I wasn't. But the more i saw things deteriate (inthe program) and the more I asked what was going on or reported bugs, or voted on bugs, or offerred comments then was promptly shot down. The more things deteriated even more. I can remember several versions ago I could look at pages on snews://secnews.netscape.com/test.multimedia And in some cases I could hear sounds or see images. Actions such as drifter, Marquee and such wouldn't work because the layer comand was used in code. And I understood that. Now for several versions I get no sound at all and the images flash on and off so fast you can't tell what's what and the only way to get out of the page is to do a force quit. The only response I get get lost, it ain't happening, your imagining things. So instead of any offerring to help figure out what is happening I get blown off as a crackpot Heck I'd be willing to send a copy of my about plugins, and my system profiler File to anyone seriously interested in figuring out what the problem is. I'm open to suggestions. But; since I've never had anyone say can you send me information so I can look into it. I must assume then it does happen no one has a solution. Go ahead and laugh. But wait 5 - 10 years see how hard you laugh, when every piece of software you get on the planet has to be cleared through Mr gates and his bunch. imagine what the prices will be like even for UNIX. Yeah... Sure. You seem to imply that the Mac going bye bye would affect Unix somehow? The Mac does not compete in the same market as Unix. The Mac has no bearing on Unix at all. Yes, I am - because if Apple was gone, Gates could consentrate all his efforts at buying up or killing open source for UNIX and other products. You better thank your lucky stars tha Mac is around. Its a deversion for Mr Gates to not place 100% of his efforts against UNIX and Open Source. -- ICQ: N/A (temporarily) AIM: FlyersR1 9 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ = m -- --- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street |Who's Who. PHONE:276-632-5045, FAX:275-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809 |[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet --- If it's fixed, don't break it! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/default.htm http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/america/default.htm http://www.kimbanet.com/~pjones/message/default.htm
Re: Worth it?
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01 Dec 2001: Yeah... Sure. You seem to imply that the Mac going bye bye would affect Unix somehow? The Mac does not compete in the same market as Unix. The Mac has no bearing on Unix at all. Yes, I am - because if Apple was gone, Gates could consentrate all his efforts at buying up or killing open source for UNIX and other products. You better thank your lucky stars tha Mac is around. Its a deversion for Mr Gates to not place 100% of his efforts against UNIX and Open Source. You can't buy up Unix. Hell, let Bill Gates try to take on Unix in the server market. Never happen. Unix is too powerful. And since it's open source, you can take plain vanilla unix and craft it to anything to suit your needs. Can't do that with any MS product. Bring it on, Mr. Gates, Open Source is here to stay and there is no way Microsoft could eliminate *nix (MS has been trying to eliminate Linux for years, still not happening. In fact, Linux has *gained* market share) -- ICQ: N/A (temporarily) AIM: FlyersR1 9 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ = m
Autoscroll/Panning
We need more input on Bug 63712. Bug 22775 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22775 talks about autoscroll/panning. If you want to help, please skim that bug and then read 63712 http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63712 and give your opinion on how to activate autoscroll/panning on oses besides Windows. Thank you.
Re: Worth it?
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Okay please explain for admonition by the Champs Not to place Communicator and netscape 6 on the same partion on your hard Drive. I realize that Mozilla and netscape 6 can actaully use one anothers preferences because the path to preferences is Name (name of Hard Drive) Documents Mozilla User Profile. But i am refering to Communicator and netscape 6. Communicator's preferences are located in System File preferences File Netscape User Folder, Profile Folder. There is no way they can share Preferences. However, The Mac uses both Internet Config and and File Exchange. Both depend upon Type and creator codes. If for example say I want to update Interarchy from with Interarchy and and both Netscape 6 and Communicator are present on same Partition Internet Config /Internet Contol panel will call up netscape 6 instead Communicator as i have set. Throwing away Internet Control panel's preferences make no difference becaus it does a poll of all the applications it finds Communicator with Type APPL Creator MOSS, and it finds Netscape 6 with Type APPL, and Creator MOSS. So guess what happens. Both try to open. But Netscape 6 has code to kill off any other application with the same Type and Creator. SO even though I plainly have set Communicator as the browser to use to go to website to update application (I used Interarchy in this example but it could be anything) netscape 6 comes up. I can repeat this for a thousand years if necessary. It will come up the same. So please explain why I get this problem is its not a conflict between the type and creator code. And Finally I was not trying to Drag the Champions program in to this, other than to state that memebers of the Champs program on the Communicator Mac groups have suggested Not to place N6 and Communicator either on same partition if your drive is partitioned or on the same hard drive because of this problem. No other reason was intended. The Champs program has helped out me a lot with Communicator. And I suppose will continue to do as long as Communicator is Viable. Never mind. I have had my ration of talking to fence posts this week. Chuck -- ... The times have been, That, when the brains were out, the man would die. ... Macbeth Chuck Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: full customizable toolbars
bug 15144 Ability to add/remove toolbar buttons (customize toolbars) 3) Why has there been decided not to show the urlbar seperately from the navbar like N4.x? bug 49543 Separate Toolbar from Address Bar [urlbar] 6) Any plans on copying the fontsizing feature to the navbar? 7) Will fontsizing eventually be stored on a page to page basis? etc. These have bugs too. Please spend your own time searching bugzilla, not others'. 2) How about a clear urlbar icon on the toolbar? ?! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redhat and Mozilla thru MS ISA server
Until that bug's fixed, your ISA server config might allow you to use the ISA / MS proxy client. Try running MS_FWC.MSI on \\yourISAserver\mspclnt. Cheers, Thanks Will, That is exactly the issue. It works if I don't require authentication internally for Internet access. I should've check bugzilla myself. I'll know next time. Maybe check: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35159 I have a situation where I am using several Red Hat 7.2 boxes on Windows 2000 network. These boxes cannot get out through the MS ISA (Internet Security and Acceleration) server. I have used this same type of setup with MS Proxy 2.0 and had no problems. Here is the setup: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Redhat and Mozilla thru MS ISA server
Um...just read the subject again. RedHat. Ignore me. Luke wrote: Until that bug's fixed, your ISA server config might allow you to use the ISA / MS proxy client. Try running MS_FWC.MSI on \\yourISAserver\mspclnt. Cheers, Thanks Will, That is exactly the issue. It works if I don't require authentication internally for Internet access. I should've check bugzilla myself. I'll know next time. Maybe check: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35159 I have a situation where I am using several Red Hat 7.2 boxes on Windows 2000 network. These boxes cannot get out through the MS ISA (Internet Security and Acceleration) server. I have used this same type of setup with MS Proxy 2.0 and had no problems. Here is the setup: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Worth it?
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: I can not believe that I am the only one having the problem if the Netscape Champions program recommends not puting both on the same partition on the same hard drive. Where did you come up with this bit of info ??? The Champions Program has never made this recommendation. Its recommended by the Netscape Champions program. NOT to have N6 and Communicator installed on the same Hard drive if using one partition (as i do) or on the same Partition if the drive is paritioned. See above reply I run NS 6, Mozilla AND Communicator on the same drive on 8 different workstations here with no noticeable conflicts whatsoever. My brother does the same on 4 different Macs including a G4 with no noticeable problems. -- Jay Garcia - Netscape Champion Novell MCNE-5/CNI-Networking Technologies-OSI UFAQ - http://www.UFAQ.org
Re: nsString status?
You might try posting in netscape.public.mozilla.xpcom Chuck Messenger wrote: Help! (please...!) I've just started delving into the Mozilla framework -- a treasure! Anyway, I'm striving to make sense of the string classes. The only existing docs consist largely of old email messages, which themselves refer to things which are planned (and presumably implemented by now??) The LXR browser is great, but leaves me a bit puzzled. Searching for nsString (as an identifier) in lxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey, I find the class definition in mozilla/string/obsolete/nsString2.h. Doing a diff on my /src/mozilla/dist/include/string/nsString.h, I see that is, indeed, the current nsString.h file. So, why is it referred to as obsolete? What's the status on strings? Thanks. - Chuck
second post how make mozilla the default
Hi, I have KDE 2.2 RH 7.2 I want to make mozilla the default browers. How do I do that? TIA John
