Re: [newbie] Switching from Voodoo to GeForce2

2002-06-27 Thread D. Olson

Wow. I just did this last week on my wife's PC. Perfect timing.

Here's how.

1) Shut off PC.
2) Remove Voodoo.
3) Install GeForce.
4) Power up PC.
5) Log in, but don't do "startx"
6) su to root
7) run XFdrake so that it switches to the GeForce card.
8) Install the NVidia GLX drivers and configure them.
9) Now type exit to go back to your user
10) do "startx" and you're all set! No reboot needed.

If you don't know how to do step 8, have a look at http://mdkxp.by-a.com/ at 
the tutorial section. You can memorize it or print it for reference. Download 
the SRC RPMs to your home folder before you do step 1, unless you know how to 
download from the commandline.

This worked perfectly for me.







On Friday 28 June 2002 01:03 am, you wrote:
> On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 21:25, Barry Michels wrote:
> > All this talk about swapping video cards has reminded me to ask, is there
> > anything that should be done before swapping my Voodoo3 3500TV for a
> > GeForce2 400MX?  I'm swapping hardware between 2 computers in an attempt
> > to get 1 really nice one for linux and make a winblows machine with the
> > leftovers.
> >
> >
> > Barry



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Re: [newbie] Switching from Voodoo to GeForce2

2002-06-27 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 21:25, Barry Michels wrote:
> All this talk about swapping video cards has reminded me to ask, is there
> anything that should be done before swapping my Voodoo3 3500TV for a
> GeForce2 400MX?  I'm swapping hardware between 2 computers in an attempt to
> get 1 really nice one for linux and make a winblows machine with the
> leftovers.
> 
> 
> Barry

I've got a suggestion, I don't know if it's SOP or not according to the
Mandrake gurus Civ or Todd, but what I would try is downloading the
latest Nvidia RPM's from their site onto your Linux system and install
them.  They don't take effect until you reboot the system; at least in
my experience, anyway.  Take care not to restart X either.

Then make your modifications to your XF86Config-4 file to get Nvidia's
recommended mods in place.  Reading the installation PDF from Nvidia on
this is very much required reading.  After you make the modifications to
your XF86Config-4 file, and double checked them, and made sure the
Nvidia RPM's were installed properly, THEN I would power down and make
the card switch.  Cross your fingers when you power back up. ;)

HTH, LX
 

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Re: [newbie] aviplay error

2002-06-27 Thread darklord

On Thursday 27 June 2002 06:17 pm, you wrote:

> Thanks for the info, Charles!  I needed that.  I thought it was just
> me...
>
> Time for YACD.
>
> (yet another CVS download)
>
> WC
>
> (with Checkinstall.  Thanks Sridhar..)
>
>
> LX

Lyvim, I was just curious...do you prefer Aviplay over others? I've been 
using Mplayer here, and (after getting it to complile) it will run just about 
everything I've thrown at it, including the kitchen sink (even DVDs).

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Re: [newbie] [OT?] Can anything be done about this?

2002-06-27 Thread darklord

On Thursday 27 June 2002 05:35 pm, you wrote:
> On Thursday 27 June 2002 02:15 pm, civileme did speak unto the huddled
>
> masses, saying:
> > Look over history.  Every watershed empire was eventually knocked over
> > by an outside force of less technically supplied, less organized
> > barbarians.
>
> i am a barbarian now?  cool  :)
>
> linus must a wee bit of viking blood in him i admit.
>
> > OK what can you do?  You can task yourself with educating 5 people over
> > the next 12 months.  And ask them to do the same
> > That's really all that is required.
>
> that, and hope those you educate are not sheep, or the learning is lost.

May I add something else here? Make sure that a percentage of those 5 you 
educate (or re-educate, as it were) are under the age of say...10? What is 
that saying about what they learn young...?  

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[newbie] postgres postmaster.opts - where to specify "-i" option?

2002-06-27 Thread tek1

i tried specifying "-i" in the /var/lib/pgsql/data/postmaster.opts file, 
but everytime i restart the machine, for some reason, the contents of the 
postmaster.opts reverts back to the original contents and the "-i" that i 
specified is lost.  i also tried specifying the -i option in the 
/etc/init.d/postgresql file, but it didn't seem to work.  i've gotten 
postgres to work with the "-i" by specifying it in the postmaster.opts file 
and restarting postgres, but again, the "-i" is lost when i restart the 
machine...?  please help.

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Re: [newbie] compact flash card usb reader

2002-06-27 Thread Joseph Braddock


On Mon, 24 Jun 2002 22:47:58 -0500
Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All would work I bet if I didn't get the following message:
> mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
> anyone have an idea of how to create sda1. All the usb and scsi modules are 
> loaded as far as I can tell. Hope Mandrakesoft is working on getting better 
> usb support for 9.0. Any help is always appreciated.
> -- 
> Dennis M. linux user #180842
> 
> 

Is it possible that you've disabled devfs?  I think the usb stuff uses it and if so, 
that could be your problem.

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[newbie] Switching from Voodoo to GeForce2

2002-06-27 Thread Barry Michels

All this talk about swapping video cards has reminded me to ask, is there
anything that should be done before swapping my Voodoo3 3500TV for a
GeForce2 400MX?  I'm swapping hardware between 2 computers in an attempt to
get 1 really nice one for linux and make a winblows machine with the
leftovers.


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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.0.1

2002-06-27 Thread Paul Kaplan

On Thursday 27 June 2002 10:47 am, Terry Sheltra wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just installed KDE 3.x on my LM 8.2 machine, and am coming across a
> minor annoyance I wish to try and correct.  Every time I login in to my
> machine in KDM and start KDE, it always goes through the configuration
> wizard for KDE, as if I'm running it for the first time.  I already have
> made my settings the first time I ran it, so I just click to quit the
> wizard and keep my current settings.  Is there a way to tell KDE that
> I've already done this and not to show me the wizard anymore?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Terry


Find the file .kde3/share/config/kpersonalizerrc in your local directory.

Add the line 

"FirstLogin=false"

That did the trick for me.  (I ran across this on Mandrake Forum shortly after 
kde3 was released.)

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Re: [newbie] Harddisk copy to harddisk

2002-06-27 Thread Dennis Myers

On Wednesday 26 June 2002 01:52 am, you wrote:
> Dennis Myers wrote:
> >On Tuesday 25 June 2002 06:47 pm, you wrote:
> >>Does anyone know of the best way to copy my harddrive hda to a new
> >>harddrive, like you would use ghost?  I have ghost but don't know if it
> >>will work with linux.  Or is there a function in diskdrake that would
> >> work? Any suggestions or advice is appreciated. I am using 8.2
> >
> >Being the adventurous sort and also impatient, I went ahead and tried
> >"ghost".  This is from the new hard drive with all files intact.  Small
> >victories are lifes treasures.  I now want to use the old hard drive as
> > hdc and do raid to it. Suggestions on where to start the learning
> > process? I can't find a man raid.  Thanks for any help.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> In Progress, Dennis, a little patience will be rewarded.  You can
> crashtest it. ;-)
>
> Civileme
Wonderful! I am ready for a new round. Everything seems to be running at 
optimum and lots of room on the disks, I gave up sleep as a waste of time. 
Standing by.
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Re: [newbie] aviplay error

2002-06-27 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 09:50, Charles A Edwards wrote:

> 
> Update to full cooker.
> 
> avifile from cooker Will Not work in 8.2 unless you also upgrade other
> libs which will then cause most currently working apps on your system to
> give you the same error.
> 
> If you have to have it now dl the source from
> http://avifile.sourceforge.net/ and build it yourself.
> 
> 
>Charles

Thanks for the info, Charles!  I needed that.  I thought it was just
me...

Time for YACD.

(yet another CVS download)

WC

(with Checkinstall.  Thanks Sridhar..)


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Re: [newbie] [OT?] Can anything be done about this?

2002-06-27 Thread Charlie

June 27, 2002 03:35 pm, shane wrote:
> On Thursday 27 June 2002 02:15 pm, civileme did speak unto the huddled
>
> masses, saying:
> > Look over history.  Every watershed empire was eventually knocked over
> > by an outside force of less technically supplied, less organized
> > barbarians.
>
> i am a barbarian now?  cool  :)

Better than us troglodytes! :-)

> linus must a wee bit of viking blood in him i admit.
>
> > OK what can you do?  You can task yourself with educating 5 people over
> > the next 12 months.  And ask them to do the same
> > That's really all that is required.
>
> that, and hope those you educate are not sheep, or the learning is lost.

Workin' on it.
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Re: [newbie] [OT?] Can anything be done about this?

2002-06-27 Thread Charlie

June 27, 2002 03:15 pm, civileme wrote:

> Well, it is obvious that it is a real threat to consumers.  It does
> treat the user as the enemy, and it does undermine the GPL.
>
> But soldiers and bullets will likely need to be used to enforce it.
>  TCPA non-compliant processors will be made by VIA and others, most
> likely, for some time to come, unless legislation is bought to make it
> illegal to do so or to build a home computer from such.  It introduces a
> split in the Frits and non-Fritz users, which will only widen as time
> moves on, and it protects entrenched money to the point that
> revolutionary thoughts may gain impetus.
>
> The plain and simple of this is that Microsoft is like a watershed
> empire.  As long as the state controls the water, it is unassailable
> from within, no matter how rotten it becomes.  To date, linux and other
> fringe enterprises have not been serious competition because the idea is
> to offer individuals with a will to own their own computers and lives an
> alternative.   Now, with the TCPA/Palladium initiative, if it goes to
> completion, linux and free software become an external force.
>
> Look over history.  Every watershed empire was eventually knocked over
> by an outside force of less technically supplied, less organized
> barbarians.  Will the Fritz users be the watershed, and the non-Fritz
> the barbarians?  Those who don't learn from the mistakes in history are
> doomed to repeat them.
>
> Look at government.  In a democratic society, citizens should have the
> right to audit how their votes were counted and how their taxes were
> calculated.  If we have this, it is possible for government to lock this
> data away.  I think Lord Akton said it well, "Power corrupts, and
> absolute power corrupts absolutely."
>
> OK what can you do?  You can task yourself with educating 5 people over
> the next 12 months.  And ask them to do the same
> That's really all that is required.
>
> Civileme
~
Thank you Civileme for your perspective.

I'm still such a self professed 'noob' that I'm never certain whether I'm 
"helping the movement or being a hindrance." That doesn't stop me making all 
sorts of noise with friends and acquaintances when I read news such as 
articles in this vein. I suppose I just need reassurance that this "issue" is 
something that merits the time and energy. Some of the opinions I've read 
(slashdot and a few other places) made me believe i was starting at shadows.

The idiocy of Microsoft's positions recently actually makes it easier to show 
people what OSS/FS has to offer. Should I thank them for that? :-)

The running score for people I've spoken to is 14 responses of 37 I sent 
links to, (but I'll probably get more responses this weekend) of which 12 are 
incensed over the arrogance displayed by TCPA. The other two are still stuck 
in "HUH?" mode. Ten are from Windows users that haven't even tried anything 
else. Possibly hadn't even considered it.

Yet. :-)

I'll keep stirring the pot here in Edmonton.

On a side note: I think Senator Fritz and his co-sponsors should be dumped 
into a pile of their own excretions for a while. Then abused.
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Re: [newbie] Whoopeee

2002-06-27 Thread shane

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On Thursday 27 June 2002 11:41 am, C.Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled 
masses, saying:

> Major breakthrough - I have to share.  My life is bound up in my Lotus
> Organizer, and this has been a major stumbling block.  It seemed that
>
> A small thing to many of you, I know, but my life is in order again. :-)
>
> It also means that the balance of power has changed.  I can now spend
> more time in Linux and less in Win98.  Of course there are still problems
> to solve, but that's life.

that is by no means a small thing, and good for you!  if it helps, the whole 
world needs to make that change in the power balance.

- -- 
Microsoft, the RIAA, the TCPA, Palladium, etc. ad nausium, these are 
assaults on our basic rights as humans.  They are all efforts to control 
us.  They must be fought.  You can have peace or freedom, but rarely both 
at once.

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Re: [newbie] [OT?] Can anything be done about this?

2002-06-27 Thread shane

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On Thursday 27 June 2002 02:15 pm, civileme did speak unto the huddled 
masses, saying:

> Look over history.  Every watershed empire was eventually knocked over
> by an outside force of less technically supplied, less organized
> barbarians.

i am a barbarian now?  cool  :)

linus must a wee bit of viking blood in him i admit.

> OK what can you do?  You can task yourself with educating 5 people over
> the next 12 months.  And ask them to do the same
> That's really all that is required.

that, and hope those you educate are not sheep, or the learning is lost.

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Re: [newbie] [OT?] Can anything be done about this?

2002-06-27 Thread civileme

Charlie wrote:

>June 27, 2002 02:16 am, Alastair Scott wrote:
>
>
>>This - from a well-known academic specialist in security issues - is not
>>uninteresting, although written with much asseveration (I would like to
>>see proof of the points about mobile phone batteries and toner
>>cartridges; such people, in a sense, make their reputation by seeing
>>the worst in everything):
>>
>>http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html
>>
>
>You were correct Alastair. It was considerably _less_ than uninteresting. :-) 
>Thanks for the link.
>
>>Coming from a military background (and someone who has no interest in
>>online video, ebooks, music or all that), I'm less worried than some;
>>the ideas are not new and a lot, really, should have been done by now.
>>The general security of PCs is deplorable and software encryption is
>>not good enough (the 'encrypted' data flies around unencrypted on the
>>bus, along the monitor cable, to and from the keyboard etc. etc. for at
>>least part of its existence :)
>>
>
>For the military, for corporations, for government, for that matter for 
>anyone that wants the technology fine. I do believe that the case could be 
>made easily that these entities have need for secured hardware, and for 
>secured software. It's so far into overkill for the average consumer that it 
>beggars belief. 
>
>>The real issue is whether such solutions are applicable to John Q Public
>>or not, and I think they are overkill. They are _certainly_ applicable
>>in classified settings!
>>
>
>My revulsion for the entire concept isn't for the "solution" itself per se. 
>It's the TCPA; which to my mind is the newest of the new oxymorons.
>
>_Trusted?_ *Microsoft?* *Intel?* *The entire entertainment industry and it's 
>public lapdogs such as _Senator Fritz_?* I now need to add AMD to this list? 
>
>For all that, what corporation/bureaucracy/political body is truly 
>trustworthy *sans* public audit?
>
>I won't play. I refuse to waste money and time to support the myth that 
>Microsoft, Hollywood, et al and ad nauseum are granted a natural right to 
>profit by abuse of the consumer. If the next computer that I build myself 
>this fall is the last new computer I ever _own_ then so be it. 
>
>I did claim, after all, to be a troglodyte. :-)
>
>>Alastair
>>
>
>
>
>
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Well, it is obvious that it is a real threat to consumers.  It does 
treat the user as the enemy, and it does undermine the GPL.

But soldiers and bullets will likely need to be used to enforce it. 
 TCPA non-compliant processors will be made by VIA and others, most 
likely, for some time to come, unless legislation is bought to make it 
illegal to do so or to build a home computer from such.  It introduces a 
split in the Frits and non-Fritz users, which will only widen as time 
moves on, and it protects entrenched money to the point that 
revolutionary thoughts may gain impetus.

The plain and simple of this is that Microsoft is like a watershed 
empire.  As long as the state controls the water, it is unassailable 
from within, no matter how rotten it becomes.  To date, linux and other 
fringe enterprises have not been serious competition because the idea is 
to offer individuals with a will to own their own computers and lives an 
alternative.   Now, with the TCPA/Palladium initiative, if it goes to 
completion, linux and free software become an external force.  

Look over history.  Every watershed empire was eventually knocked over 
by an outside force of less technically supplied, less organized 
barbarians.  Will the Fritz users be the watershed, and the non-Fritz 
the barbarians?  Those who don't learn from the mistakes in history are 
doomed to repeat them.

Look at government.  In a democratic society, citizens should have the 
right to audit how their votes were counted and how their taxes were 
calculated.  If we have this, it is possible for government to lock this 
data away.  I think Lord Akton said it well, "Power corrupts, and 
absolute power corrupts absolutely."

OK what can you do?  You can task yourself with educating 5 people over 
the next 12 months.  And ask them to do the same
That's really all that is required.

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Re: [newbie] Thrown off the list ?

2002-06-27 Thread today

On Sun, 02 Jun 2002 01:18, Brian Parish wrote:
> I think you may have experienced the same scenario as me Kaj.  I have
> sent the message below twice now, with different subjects and it has
> failed to show in either version, while other posts I sent before and
> after were showing up as usual.  Can anyone recall seeing this text?
> It's in reply to the recent thread on Quake 3.
>
> -
> I finally got around to doing this (not that I play games of course ;-)
> and would like to post a small word of warning about the scenario that
> just bit me:
>
> Install Q3 and attempt to run.
>
> Up comes a message saying that the permissions on the GLX device are too
> restrictive to allow this and I should go look at the FAQ kindly
> provided.


I am soo far behind on my email.  Have 1000s to catch up on... : (

But anyway, I definitely got your second post of the above email Brian.  It 
was your reply (dated 31/05/02 01:13) to darklord's thread  with the 
subject "Re: [newbie] Quake 3 bites back (was Quake 3...again)".

Most likely got your original post as well but must have deleted it already.

I can't believe no-one else received it!  Very strange indeed.

I'm in NZ.

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Re: [newbie] Switching GeForce cards

2002-06-27 Thread s

On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 15:27, Miark wrote:
> Just received my new GeForce 4 which will replace
> my GeForce 2. Other than replacing the card, do
> I need to re-install the nVidia RPMs, or can
> I just swap and play.
> 
> Miark
> 
> 
> 

When I did this, I just replaced the card and changed the videoram in
XF86Config-4. No need to reinstall drivers.
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Re: [newbie] Upgrading memory [getting OT]

2002-06-27 Thread civileme

Mark Stewart wrote:

ASUS A7N266-VM84
512M DDR  165
Two hard disks160
CDRW/DVD109
Case (InWin 500D)54
Keyboard/mouse
/speakers  12
Floppy drive  12
1G Duron 58
Fan/heatsink 30
Networking card12

>>>Civileme,
>>>
>>>I have to say I was a little suprised to see an Nvidia mobo
>>>
>>recommendation
>>
>>>for Linux but I take it that it works well with Mandrake.
>>>
>>>Two questions about this setup:
>>>- does the sound work okay? (obviously not expecting the super cool AC3
>>>encode/decode stuff but ...uses some Intel 810 driver, right?)
>>>- did the networking work? (or was the NIC you've included in the list
>>>necessary?)
>>>- does the install setup program for Mandrake deal with the builtin
>>>video/RAM allocation thang?
>>>
>>>
>>>::mark
>>>
>
>>Well, out of the box on a ProSuite workstation install, everything but
>>networking...
>>
>>After downloading the NForce RPM for mandrake 8.2 from NVidia, the
>>networking worked as well--it just could not be set up during install.
>>
>>That was NOT a recommendation, just an example.  I had reasons for the
>>NForce install related to testing, and in fact I cannot recommend it at
>>all for those who will use RAID with any of the journaling filesystems.
>>
>
>Thanks for info/clarification. I'm curious, though. If it works well what
>keeps you from recommending it?
>
>It seems at this point that there really isn't a single chipset/motherboard
>that is without _some_ issue. Mandrakelinux.com lists zero motherboards as
>"Tested by MandrakeSoft" and only 9 motherboards as "MandrakeLabs Certified"
>and two of these use the KT266 chipset that you were warning users about
>because of clock problems. One of them even has a Promise WinRAID
>controller.
>
>
>::mark
>
>
>
>
>
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Well, I am having problems with the proprietary driver+Nforce+journaling 
filesystem+software RAID0 producing massive corruption of filesystems. 
 The little NForce would be neat with an inexpensive processor and RAID0 
(two drives striping) in terms of fleetness of foot and video 
performance but for that.  Removing the proprietary driver shows no 
corruption after a lot of sledgehammering.

Yes, the WinRAIDs are often overlooked.  With RAID disabled, they are 
high-quality extra controllers for IDE.  It is also possible to make a 
WinRAID smaller than the whole disk and install linux on the rest of the 
two disks, using software RAID.  In that case you should(tm) be able to 
read the winpartitions (if they aren't some hyper-secret form of NTFS). 
 If WinRAID 0+1 is selected on 4 disks and the WinRAID doesn't use the 
whole disk, you should be able to put RAID4 or RAID5 on the balance of 
the four disks as well as RAID0 or RAID1.  Of course the WinRAID gives 
you one RAID for whatever size you choose, and you partition within it, 
while linux software RAID gives you many RAIDs, each one partition with 
one filesystem.  I have one machine using RAID5 for /home over 2 IDE and 
2 SCSI disks, and RAID0 for /usr over the two SCSI drives, RAID0 for 
/var over the IDEs, and ext2 for / over the first IDE, while all 4 have 
swap (which stripes automatically).


MandrakeLabs certified means they install and run with standard 
defaults.  Software RAID and journaling filesystems in combination are 
not tested in that sequence, which is why the broken clock problem did 
not surface, but if ever you decide to use a BTTV 848 or similar, you 
will discover it quickly for yourself.

And, yes, you are right.  Intel 815 and 845 and the SiS chipsets seem to 
be the most trouble-free ATM.  Performance doesn't have the pizazz power 
users think they need, but they do work (and the SiS stuff still 
tolerates my Voodoo 5).

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[newbie] Switching GeForce cards

2002-06-27 Thread Miark

Just received my new GeForce 4 which will replace
my GeForce 2. Other than replacing the card, do
I need to re-install the nVidia RPMs, or can
I just swap and play.

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Re: [newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems

2002-06-27 Thread civileme

Steve Mendizabal wrote:

>Hello listers, just joined, just installed and hopefully won't get too many
>RTFM responses:
>
>On init these show as failed and its taking a long time to boot up. 1-2 min
>eth0 & eth1
>Now I believe these to be my ethernet cards. Any reason why they would be
>failing? Also I cant get my DSL to work either. I know the 2 are related but
>where to start to find the answer?
>
>Mandrake 8.2 DL version
>10G partition
>1Gig swap
>Dell 8200
>128MB ram
>
>ethernet cards:
>Kingston EtherRx KNE111TX PCI Fast Ethernet
>CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet
>(is there anyway to know which is which IE; eth0, eth1?)
>
>
>1 partridge
>1 peartree
>
>
>Steve Mendizabal
>Multimedia Engineer
>
>
>
>
>
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>Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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Yep, you can find out by looking in several different places

1.  /etc/modules.conf

specific alias instructions will be here to assign drivers to eth0 and eth1

2.  linuxconf=>networking=>host name and IP network devices=> Adaptor 1 
will be eth0 and Adaptor 2 will be eth1

Now to get them working, _very patiently_ try Mandrake Control Center. 
 => Network and Internet.

eth1 should be the one connected to your internet connection
eth0 should be connected to your local network

The reason for that is that Internet connection sharing is set up that 
way, with eth0 at 192.168.0.1 offering dhcp and forwarding nameservice 
to the rest of the local network.  So if ever you plan to use the 
Mandrake box as the gateway and just want to use the wizard rather than 
doing the iptables setup yourself, then you will be ready to do so.

Now the internet connection and network setup should work OK, but keep 
in mind that they are two different setups, and the tool sets one up as 
the internet access method.  Two nameservers are allocated for internet 
and one for local net.  More than three can cause problems.

Now as to why they are not working now--there could be several reasons

1. ACPI enabled in the BIOS could have placed all the cards in your 
system on the same interrupt.

2.  The KNE111TX uses the tulip driver so if you see de4x5 in the alias 
on modules.conf, change it to tulip.

3.  The CNET Pro200WL has zero documentation as to the chipset it uses 
both on the CNETusa and CNET.tw sites and from Dell.  Most likely the 
tech info from Dell would be the only one applicable as it is likely an 
OEM version of the card specifically made for Dell.  I do see articles 
about difficulty getting the CNet to run with Win2K.

Try removing the CNET from your system and detecting only the other 
ethernet card.  If this works, then it is interference or a bad 
detection which cannot be corrected because no technical information on 
the chipset in use is available.

Possibly I could analyze the problem if you could post the output of

lspci -vvv

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Re: [newbie] Whoopeee

2002-06-27 Thread Randy Kramer

Great -- congratulations!

Randy Kramer

C.Anne Wilson wrote:
> 
> Major breakthrough - I have to share.  My life is bound up in my Lotus
> Organizer, and this has been a major stumbling block.  It seemed that
> Evolution would be the way forward, but I could find no way of importing my
> Organizer info.
> 
> Disappointed, I turned to WINE, hoping that would solve the problem.  It
> didn't work.  I looked at a couple of WINE-user newsgroups, where I found the
> opinion that Lotus SmartSuite as a whole was well-nigh impossible.
> 
> Then - I discolvered that Organizer can write vCal files and KOrganizer can
> read them.  With a little perseverence I've got the diary, anniversary,
> Planner, UK Holidays, Christian Holidays sections and the ToDo list into
> KOrganizer.
> 
> KAddress didn't want to know about my Contacts section, but Gnome-Card
> imported the lot, automatically and trouble-free.
> 
> A small thing to many of you, I know, but my life is in order again. :-)
> 
> It also means that the balance of power has changed.  I can now spend more
> time in Linux and less in Win98.  Of course there are still problems to
> solve, but that's life.



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Re: [newbie] how to print screen?

2002-06-27 Thread mike mardlin

sorry im totally new to linux , i keep getting hundreds of e-mails from 
people but i cant figure out where to go to to remove my e-mail 
address...PLEASE HELP ME!!!
you obviously know my mail address so where did u get it from im at a loss 
HELP

thanks

Mike


>From: Michael Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [newbie] how to print screen?
>Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 09:56:04 +1200
>
>On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 06:20, Randy Kramer wrote:
> > Josef Lowder wrote:
> > > I sent the following question several days ago, and never received any
> > > response?  Did the message never arrive, previously?
> >
> > I saw your message several days ago, so it did arrive.
> >
> > I don't know whether the Print Screen key works in Linux -- I sort of
> > doubt it -- I just tried it, alone and in combination with most
> > combinations of , , and , and saw no response.  BUT,
> > I'm not real confident my printer is set up properly -- I only recently
> > got it to work at all.
> >
> > Randy Kramer
>
>Randy,
>
>In windows, print screen prints to the clipboard not the printer, from 
>which
>the pic can be pasted into an application.
>
>It is a function most often used by manual writers and program reveiwers, 
>not
>to say that other uses dont exist.
>
>--
>Michael
>
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Re: [newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems

2002-06-27 Thread Steve Mendizabal

That all I wanted was a little push. Will try these commands and go forth on
my march through LinuxLand. Thanks



- Original Message -
From: "H.J.Bathoorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems


> On Thu 27 Jun 2002 20:03, Steve Mendizabal wrote:
> > I want to know why i'm getting failed eth0, failed eth1 messages at
boot. I
> > tried looking through the docs but found nothing. Any help or gentle
push
> > would be greatly appreciated.
>
> well here's some gentle pushing:
>
> Go to a commandline by opening a terminal (or hitting
>  )
> Then login and type:"dmesg" without the quotes. Use  or

> to scroll up or down the output and find what's being stated about eth0
and
> eth1.
> And/or type: "less /var/log/syslog" (without ") and look for information
> there.
> If you're still clueless after that, come back and tell us what eth1 and
eth0
> are supposed to be doing on your PC/network and what error messages were
> there.
>
> Don't take it harshly, just trying to push you into a little 'selfhelp'
;o)
>
> Good luck,
>
> Harm.
>
>
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems

2002-06-27 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Thu 27 Jun 2002 20:03, Steve Mendizabal wrote:
> I want to know why i'm getting failed eth0, failed eth1 messages at boot. I
> tried looking through the docs but found nothing. Any help or gentle push
> would be greatly appreciated.

well here's some gentle pushing:

Go to a commandline by opening a terminal (or hitting 
 ) 
Then login and type:"dmesg" without the quotes. Use  or  
to scroll up or down the output and find what's being stated about eth0 and 
eth1.
And/or type: "less /var/log/syslog" (without ") and look for information 
there. 
If you're still clueless after that, come back and tell us what eth1 and eth0 
are supposed to be doing on your PC/network and what error messages were 
there.

Don't take it harshly, just trying to push you into a little 'selfhelp' ;o)

Good luck,

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[newbie] Whoopeee

2002-06-27 Thread C.Anne Wilson

Major breakthrough - I have to share.  My life is bound up in my Lotus 
Organizer, and this has been a major stumbling block.  It seemed that 
Evolution would be the way forward, but I could find no way of importing my 
Organizer info.

Disappointed, I turned to WINE, hoping that would solve the problem.  It 
didn't work.  I looked at a couple of WINE-user newsgroups, where I found the 
opinion that Lotus SmartSuite as a whole was well-nigh impossible.

Then - I discolvered that Organizer can write vCal files and KOrganizer can 
read them.  With a little perseverence I've got the diary, anniversary, 
Planner, UK Holidays, Christian Holidays sections and the ToDo list into 
KOrganizer.

KAddress didn't want to know about my Contacts section, but Gnome-Card 
imported the lot, automatically and trouble-free.

A small thing to many of you, I know, but my life is in order again. :-)

It also means that the balance of power has changed.  I can now spend more 
time in Linux and less in Win98.  Of course there are still problems to 
solve, but that's life.

Anne



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Re: [newbie] BIG trouble

2002-06-27 Thread C.Anne Wilson

But I definitely get sound from 4 speakers (not sure about the centre one) 
when I play mp3 files.  This with an analogue cable.  It may be stereo 
duplicated, of course, but it sounds good to me.

Anne

On Wednesday 26 Jun 2002 4:05 am, you wrote:
> Jose,
>
> All I know is when I used the analog cable, I got two
> channel sound out of my SBLive, and when I switched to a
> digital cable, I got four-channel sound. No setting
> changes, no nothing.
>
> My explanation may be inaccurate, but I'll stick by the
> advice. There may be a way to mess with settings to make
> analog sound crank out of four (or more) speakers but
> changing the cable is much easier.
>
> Miark
>
> "Jose M. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith:
> > Eh, no.
> >
> > The audigy's and SBLive's DSP renders effects into the rear channels.
> > It also can decode Dolby AC3 into 4 channel as well.
> >
> > There was a writeup not too long ago on MandrakeUser or MandrakeForum
> > about enabling the Optical Bay which included directions for Digital,
> > center channel, etc. configurations.
> >
> > -JMS
> >
> > |-Original Message-
> > |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Miark
> > |Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:04 PM
> > |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > |Subject: Re: [newbie] Re: Surround Sound
> > |
> > |
> > |Anne,
> > |
> > |I could be wrong, but I think only digital sound can be
> > |processed into surround sound. CD audio doesn't because the
> > |sound card just passes along a 2-channel analog signal.
> > |
> > |I bet if you used a SPDIF cable from your CD drive to your
> > |sound card (the two-prong rather than the four-prong
> > |connection on your CD drive) you'd get surround sound from CDs.
> > |
> > |Miark
> > |
> > |Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> saith:
> > |> You may remember that a few weeks ago I asked about surround
> > |
> > |sound on
> > |
> > |> my
> > |> Audigy card.  Someone said his worked fine, but I got no further.
> > |>
> > |> I realise now that the kde startup sound is in surround sound.  Today
> > |> for the first time I played an mp3 file, and that was in
> > |
> > |good surround
> > |
> > |> sound too, so it seems to be just cd-player.  Has anyone any
> > |
> > |idea what I
> > |
> > |> can do about this?
> > |>
> > |> Anne




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Re: [newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems

2002-06-27 Thread Steve Mendizabal

I want to know why i'm getting failed eth0, failed eth1 messages at boot. I
tried looking through the docs but found nothing. Any help or gentle push
would be greatly appreciated.



> Being a new Linux user with +1 day's experience, one thing I did see on
the
> net is that the KNE111TX card can get a bit funny with Linux.


> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Mendizabal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 16:22
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems
>
>
> Hello listers, just joined, just installed and hopefully won't get too
many
> RTFM responses:
>
> On init these show as failed and its taking a long time to boot up. 1-2
min
> eth0 & eth1
> Now I believe these to be my ethernet cards. Any reason why they would be
> failing? Also I cant get my DSL to work either. I know the 2 are related
but
> where to start to find the answer?
>
> Mandrake 8.2 DL version
> 10G partition
> 1Gig swap
> Dell 8200
> 128MB ram
>
> ethernet cards:
> Kingston EtherRx KNE111TX PCI Fast Ethernet
> CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet
> (is there anyway to know which is which IE; eth0, eth1?)
>
>
> 1 partridge
> 1 peartree
>
>
> Steve Mendizabal
> Multimedia Engineer
>
>
>
>






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Re: [newbie] BIG trouble - (a reference for the legally blind?)

2002-06-27 Thread Josef Lowder

On Thursday 27 June 2002 08:09, you wrote:
> SNIP
> > Not sure I entirely understand.  Are you saying that these three
> > commands will, between them, cause a timely and controlled shutdown?
>
> This tells you all about it
> http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/doc/82/en/ref.html/ts-system-freeze.html

Whoa!  Why does the Mandrake 8.2 reference manual come forth with such huge 
print? 

When I substitute 81 for 82, I get the Mandrake 8.1 reference manual in a 
reasonable size, but the 8.2 ref manual has letters an inch high on my 
screen. 

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Re: [newbie] Netscape plugins

2002-06-27 Thread Marcia

On Thursday 27 June 2002 10:45 am, you wrote:
> Do you have your path to Netscape 6 set up properly?  From what I
> remember, Netscape 6 installs into a different location than Netscape
> 4.x did.  I would double check on where it is located, then run the
> Crossover setup program, and under the "General" tab, change the
> location to where the Netscape 6 plugins folder is located.  Also make
> sure you have write privileges in the plugins folder for Netscape.
>
> HTH,
>
> Terry
>
Thank you Terry and Tom for your help with this. I actually prefer using 
Konqueror or Mozilla to Netscape but was having problems with Konqueror which 
I since have fixed. I discovered that the Quicktime plugin and iPIX plugin 
that I am using with Crossover work just great in Konqueror. I will not 
bother with Netscape 6 at this point. Thanks so much for your assistance.

Sincerely,

Marcia



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RE: [newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems

2002-06-27 Thread Myers, Dennis R NWO
Title: RE: [newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems







-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Mendizabal
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 10:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems



Hello listers, just joined, just installed and hopefully won't get too many
RTFM responses:


On init these show as failed and its taking a long time to boot up. 1-2 min
eth0 & eth1
Now I believe these to be my ethernet cards. Any reason why they would be
failing? Also I cant get my DSL to work either. I know the 2 are related but
where to start to find the answer?


Mandrake 8.2 DL version
10G partition
1Gig swap
Dell 8200
128MB ram


ethernet cards:
Kingston EtherRx KNE111TX PCI Fast Ethernet
CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet
(is there anyway to know which is which IE; eth0, eth1?)



1 partridge
1 peartree



Steve Mendizabal
Multimedia Engineer


Are you using ML8.1 or 8.2, if so it would appear that the ethernet cards are not initialized.  Try from a command line "ifup eth0" and "ifup eth1" and see if there are any messages kicked back.  You may need to go to the Mandrake control panel and select the "internet connection and connection sharing" and then run the wizard to set up the network and internet connections.HTH

Dennis M.





Re: [newbie] [OT?] Can anything be done about this?

2002-06-27 Thread Charlie

June 27, 2002 02:16 am, Alastair Scott wrote:


> This - from a well-known academic specialist in security issues - is not
> uninteresting, although written with much asseveration (I would like to
> see proof of the points about mobile phone batteries and toner
> cartridges; such people, in a sense, make their reputation by seeing
> the worst in everything):
>
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

You were correct Alastair. It was considerably _less_ than uninteresting. :-) 
Thanks for the link.

> Coming from a military background (and someone who has no interest in
> online video, ebooks, music or all that), I'm less worried than some;
> the ideas are not new and a lot, really, should have been done by now.
> The general security of PCs is deplorable and software encryption is
> not good enough (the 'encrypted' data flies around unencrypted on the
> bus, along the monitor cable, to and from the keyboard etc. etc. for at
> least part of its existence :)

For the military, for corporations, for government, for that matter for 
anyone that wants the technology fine. I do believe that the case could be 
made easily that these entities have need for secured hardware, and for 
secured software. It's so far into overkill for the average consumer that it 
beggars belief. 

> The real issue is whether such solutions are applicable to John Q Public
> or not, and I think they are overkill. They are _certainly_ applicable
> in classified settings!

My revulsion for the entire concept isn't for the "solution" itself per se. 
It's the TCPA; which to my mind is the newest of the new oxymorons.

_Trusted?_ *Microsoft?* *Intel?* *The entire entertainment industry and it's 
public lapdogs such as _Senator Fritz_?* I now need to add AMD to this list? 

For all that, what corporation/bureaucracy/political body is truly 
trustworthy *sans* public audit?

I won't play. I refuse to waste money and time to support the myth that 
Microsoft, Hollywood, et al and ad nauseum are granted a natural right to 
profit by abuse of the consumer. If the next computer that I build myself 
this fall is the last new computer I ever _own_ then so be it. 

I did claim, after all, to be a troglodyte. :-)

> Alastair

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One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
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One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
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[newbie] QuickTime - mplayer ;)

2002-06-27 Thread tom brinkman


  wouldn't ya know it, just after Xine comes out with QT support (all 
but Sorenson v3), mplayer's got it.  Work's great !  I've got tons of 
recent QT .mov's, and only a very few are Sorenson3

MPlayer CVS-020626-23:00-3.1.1 (C) 2000-2002 Arpad Gereoffy (see 
DOCS!)

Latest CVS version, available for d/l from
   http://www.MPlayerHQ.hu/homepage/

(gcc 2.96 users will need to './configure --disable-gcc-checking')
-- 
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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.0.1

2002-06-27 Thread Carlos Arigos

El Jue 27 Jun 2002 11:47, Terry Sheltra escribió:
> Hi all,
>
> I've just installed KDE 3.x on my LM 8.2 machine, and am coming across a
> minor annoyance I wish to try and correct.  Every time I login in to my
> machine in KDM and start KDE, it always goes through the configuration
> wizard for KDE, as if I'm running it for the first time.  I already have
> made my settings the first time I ran it, so I just click to quit the
> wizard and keep my current settings.  Is there a way to tell KDE that
> I've already done this and not to show me the wizard anymore?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Terry

> ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/Mandrake-8.2/
>

> > Texstar has taken the standard Mandrake package, fixed a couple of
> > scripting bugs in the startkde script, removed the first time wizard
> > which insists on running everytime you load KDE with the standard
> > version, added a few items in kde control centre, changed the default
> > startup sound, and taskbar spinner, enabled MP3 ripping in the Audio I/O
> > slave of konqueror, and maybe something else I cannot remember.
> > In addition you will find lots of other goodies in Tex's ftp directory.
> >

> > HTH
> >

> > derek


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Re: [newbie] QT problem with kde3

2002-06-27 Thread Damian G

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 07:29:13 +0530
"L.V.Gandhi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday 27 June 2002 03:34 am, robin wrote:
> > L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> > >I have kde3 with mdk 8.2.
> > >I wanted to compile an application which needs QT3.
> > >I did
> > >[root@localhost arson-0.9.6-kde3]# export QT_DIR=/usr/lib/qt3
> > >[root@localhost arson-0.9.6-kde3]# ./configure --prefix=/opt/kde3
> > >But I still I get error
> > >checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.2) (library qt-mt) not
> > >found. Please check your installation!
> > >config.log also couldn't throw much light.
> > >What to do for proper compiling?

..uhm.. is the program you are trying to compile an
instant-messaging application?? just curious.

Damian



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RE: [newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems

2002-06-27 Thread Andrew Sweetman

Being a new Linux user with +1 day's experience, one thing I did see on the
net is that the KNE111TX card can get a bit funny with Linux.

Someone else I'm sure will know a hell of a lot more about this than I.

Andy Sweetman (Off to a strip club in 30mins, and has got Friday off =) )

-Original Message-
From: Steve Mendizabal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 16:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems


Hello listers, just joined, just installed and hopefully won't get too many
RTFM responses:

On init these show as failed and its taking a long time to boot up. 1-2 min
eth0 & eth1
Now I believe these to be my ethernet cards. Any reason why they would be
failing? Also I cant get my DSL to work either. I know the 2 are related but
where to start to find the answer?

Mandrake 8.2 DL version
10G partition
1Gig swap
Dell 8200
128MB ram

ethernet cards:
Kingston EtherRx KNE111TX PCI Fast Ethernet
CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet
(is there anyway to know which is which IE; eth0, eth1?)


1 partridge
1 peartree


Steve Mendizabal
Multimedia Engineer





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RE: [newbie] Upgrading memory [getting OT]

2002-06-27 Thread Mark Stewart


> >>ASUS A7N266-VM84
> >>512M DDR  165
> >>Two hard disks160
> >>CDRW/DVD109
> >>Case (InWin 500D)54
> >>Keyboard/mouse
> >>/speakers  12
> >>Floppy drive  12
> >>1G Duron 58
> >>Fan/heatsink 30
> >>Networking card12
> >>
> >
> >Civileme,
> >
> >I have to say I was a little suprised to see an Nvidia mobo
> recommendation
> >for Linux but I take it that it works well with Mandrake.
> >
> >Two questions about this setup:
> >- does the sound work okay? (obviously not expecting the super cool AC3
> >encode/decode stuff but ...uses some Intel 810 driver, right?)
> >- did the networking work? (or was the NIC you've included in the list
> >necessary?)
> >- does the install setup program for Mandrake deal with the builtin
> >video/RAM allocation thang?
> >
> >
> >::mark

> >
> Well, out of the box on a ProSuite workstation install, everything but
> networking...
>
> After downloading the NForce RPM for mandrake 8.2 from NVidia, the
> networking worked as well--it just could not be set up during install.
>
> That was NOT a recommendation, just an example.  I had reasons for the
> NForce install related to testing, and in fact I cannot recommend it at
> all for those who will use RAID with any of the journaling filesystems.
>

Thanks for info/clarification. I'm curious, though. If it works well what
keeps you from recommending it?

It seems at this point that there really isn't a single chipset/motherboard
that is without _some_ issue. Mandrakelinux.com lists zero motherboards as
"Tested by MandrakeSoft" and only 9 motherboards as "MandrakeLabs Certified"
and two of these use the KT266 chipset that you were warning users about
because of clock problems. One of them even has a Promise WinRAID
controller.


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Re: [newbie] BIG trouble

2002-06-27 Thread shane

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On Thursday 27 June 2002 07:08 am, C.Anne Wilson did speak unto the huddled 
masses, saying:

> > ALT-SYSRQ (screen print key)-R puts the keyboard in RAW mode
> > ALT-SYSRQ-S  syncs the disks
> > ALT-SYSRQ-B reboots

> Not sure I entirely understand.  Are you saying that these three commands
> will, between them, cause a timely and controlled shutdown?

yes they will, but they are basically a last resort.

from so web page somewhere that i don't recall

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "r" puts the keyboard in 'raw' mode. Sometimes after only
this command you can try to kill the X server and all is well, if not,
press on.

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "s" attempts to write all unsaved data to disk ('sync' the
disk) to prevent file corruption.

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "e" sends a termination signal to all processes, that is
the same as killing every program running.

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "i" sends a kill signal to all processes. If any processes
are still running after the last key command this will clean up.

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "u" remounts all systems in read-only mode. This is to
prevent file system corruption.

"Alt" + "SysRq" + "b" reboots the system.

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Re: [newbie] Missing posts

2002-06-27 Thread dfox

> i am for banning windows users from ISPs.  first offence.  ;)

why not? there are plenty of single line 1200 baud atari/commodore/etc
bbses around... :)

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Re: [newbie] Missing posts

2002-06-27 Thread shane

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masses, saying:

> Only thing disturbs me though, is that they offer these people antivirus
> software (at a very modest price) but don't give a crash-course how to
> prevent it all.
>
> Hell, if there hadn't already been any viri out there, M$ would probably
> have invented them to stay in bussines.

fixing the problems ou created in the first place is a great way to stay in 
buis

i swear to you the random sig file choose that one itself.  it scares me.

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[newbie] eth0 - eth1 problems

2002-06-27 Thread Steve Mendizabal

Hello listers, just joined, just installed and hopefully won't get too many
RTFM responses:

On init these show as failed and its taking a long time to boot up. 1-2 min
eth0 & eth1
Now I believe these to be my ethernet cards. Any reason why they would be
failing? Also I cant get my DSL to work either. I know the 2 are related but
where to start to find the answer?

Mandrake 8.2 DL version
10G partition
1Gig swap
Dell 8200
128MB ram

ethernet cards:
Kingston EtherRx KNE111TX PCI Fast Ethernet
CNet PRO200WL PCI Fast Ethernet
(is there anyway to know which is which IE; eth0, eth1?)


1 partridge
1 peartree


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Re: [newbie] Missing posts

2002-06-27 Thread H.J.Bathoorn

On Thu 27 Jun 2002 04:00, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 June 2002 03:18 am, H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> > On Wed 26 Jun 2002 04:29, John Rigby wrote:
> > > The main problem is not your Linux setup or anything else, it is the
> > > not-allowed-to-be-discussed-sanely, Cybernazi  anti-spammers.
> > > These idiots ( a careful use of the word) can interrupt the flow of
> > > messages from you, or anyone to anyone or anywhere else that just
> > > happens to route through their Servers.
> > > Thus, the spasmodic, but ever-growing problem we all now face from
> > > these *uncontrolled* incompetents.
> > >
> > >
> > > They are dictating what reaches this list or any other and we
> > > individuals.
> > >
> > >
> > > A curse on all their livestock!
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > I-told-you-so-years-ago-rigby
> >
> > Not only anti-spam!
> >
> > Over here the mail servers are getting bogged down due to the
> > 'yaha-virus' catching on to the 90% majority.
> >
> > So as a new rule everyone sending more than 10 infected e-mails gets
> > blocked off the smtp servers until they're clean again.
> > That's called fighting the symptoms not the cause.:o)
> >
> > Good hunting,
> >
> > Harm.
>
> Harm:
> I've got no beef with telling someone that they can't propagate any more
> Microsoft worms/virii until they get their act together. I wish more ISP's
> would take that approach. Perhaps it's not attacking the root cause (the
> whole damn windows system), but at least it's going after the
> co-conspirators. After going through three or four of these episodes, some
> of them might start thinking that there might be a better way of doing
> things. -- cmg

Agreed on all points:o)

Only thing disturbs me though, is that they offer these people antivirus 
software (at a very modest price) but don't give a crash-course how to 
prevent it all.

I mean half (if not more) of the hurt would go away if they told these people 
to turn off html and/or stop using Outlook. Instead they propagate 
fud-software ( the antivirus stuff) giving these same people a sense of 
security until the next mass attack.

So, nothing changes except that those folks hate 'hackers' (that's what they 
call the 'script kiddies') all the more for making them feel insecure.
To them it's not the OS but the bad guys out there, who are the real threat 
and .NET or palladium will be seen as a small price to keep them out.

Hell, if there hadn't already been any viri out there, M$ would probably have 
invented them to stay in bussines.

Good luck,

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Re: [newbie] BIG trouble

2002-06-27 Thread Derek Jennings

SNIP
> > Well, whenever you cannot get to a console with ctrl-alt-F2 and login as
> > root and 'ps ax | grep DrakConf' and kill it
> > with a 'kill -9 (id of the program)'   When you cannot do that, then
> >
> > ALT-SYSRQ (screen print key)-R puts the keyboard in RAW mode
> > ALT-SYSRQ-S  syncs the disks
> > ALT-SYSRQ-B reboots
> >
> > Civileme
> >
> > harddrake may not be the way to go on non-working USB connected devices.
> >  There are several protocols
> >
> > uhci
> > ohci
> > ehci
> >
> > to name three.  Better to look at /etc/modules.conf and see what you
> > have loaded and for what purpose...
> >
> > Civileme
>
> Not sure I entirely understand.  Are you saying that these three commands
> will, between them, cause a timely and controlled shutdown?
>
> Anne


This tells you all about it

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Re: [newbie] Netscape plugins

2002-06-27 Thread Terry Sheltra

Do you have your path to Netscape 6 set up properly?  From what I
remember, Netscape 6 installs into a different location than Netscape
4.x did.  I would double check on where it is located, then run the
Crossover setup program, and under the "General" tab, change the
location to where the Netscape 6 plugins folder is located.  Also make
sure you have write privileges in the plugins folder for Netscape.

HTH,

Terry

On Wed, 2002-06-26 at 18:40, tom brinkman wrote:
> On Wednesday 26 June 2002 02:01 pm, Marcia wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > I downloaded and installed Crossover demo plugin and installed
> > Quicktime, iPIX and a few other helpers, but my Netscape6 does not
> > know they are there. They are properly installed and activated and
> > I tried to add them to the helper application menu in Netscape
> > preferences as suggested but nothing is working. I have LM8.2 and
> > supposedly the plugger from Netscape is installed but is not
> > working for me either. Any suggestions?
> 
> Keep in mind you're tryin to use a proprietary Apple Mac app, 
> ported to Winblows, but tryin to run it on a Linux system.  That 
> said, go ahead and buy the Crossover plugin, the developers deserve 
> the contribution.
> 
>I've tried 3 ways of playin QT movies.
> 
> o   Codewavers (the Crossover people's) free rendition of wine.
>   Works pretty well runnin QT5 from Win98.  Sound really sux.
>   BUT Codeweaver's wine is still probly the best wine effort
>   to use other Winwoes apps.
> o   Codeweaver's Crossover plugin.  No nag screen, IME works better   
>   than the demo. Sound is good, a few intermittent drops with
>   a sound chip that's not recomended for this use (AC97).
> Only problem is the shortcommings of Quicktime player itself.
> Works very well with Galeon, Mozilla, or Konqueror. I haven't
>   bothered with Nutscrape in quite some time.  
> o   Xine.  The latest xine-ui-0.9.12-1mdk, libxine0-0.9.12-1mdk plays
> QT movies better than QT5 runnin under Windoze or Crossover,
>   ... video wise, I've yet to get the sound workin. OtOH, it's
>   the solution I like, 'cause .mov's can be played multiply, full
>   sreen from the CL. No need to to start the plugin or player for 
>   each separate movie as with the Winsux or Crossover players.
>   I've got CD's of QT movies that play for many many hours ;>
> http://xine.sourceforge.net/   (btw, they're seeking
>   contributions also).
>
>So, IMO, your best bet for playin QT from a browser (other than 
> Nutscrape) is to use Crossover.  Better for playin stored .mov's is 
> Xine.  The QT on Linux situation has come a long way recently, expect 
> even more shortly.  
> -- 
> Tom Brinkman  Corpus Christi, Texas
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [newbie] Missing posts

2002-06-27 Thread shane

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On Wednesday 26 June 2002 07:00 pm, Carroll Grigsby did speak unto the 
huddled masses, saying:

> I've got no beef with telling someone that they can't propagate any more
> Microsoft worms/virii until they get their act together. I wish more
> ISP's would take that approach. Perhaps it's not attacking the root cause
> (the whole damn windows system), but at least it's going after the
> co-conspirators. After going through three or four of these episodes,
> some of them might start thinking that there might be a better way of
> doing things. -- cmg

i am for banning windows users from ISPs.  first offence.  ;)

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RE: [newbie] Do these work?

2002-06-27 Thread Baka Attila Tamás

Thanx Roly!

I hope I'll be able to do so

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I have a linux box running at work and was able to set it up to a
jetdirect using remote ip printing.
Roly
 
On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 04:14, civileme wrote:
> Linux Maniac wrote:
> 
> >After several crashes and other XP related problems, I got permission 
> >to install linux on my computer at work. The only conditions are: 
> >
> >- The HP Laserjet 3200 (through a Jetdirect 175x network) must be 
> >operational for printing.
> >- The UMAX Astranet A101 scanner (USB) has to be operational.
> >- I need a solution to import my adressbook and emails from outlook2000 
> >(How do I do this?)
> >
> >
> >So.. do these work? I don't have time and energy to look on the web...
> >
> >BAT
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> The JetDirect probably will not.
> 
> Civileme
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [newbie] Re: Surround Sound

2002-06-27 Thread C.Anne Wilson

On Tuesday 25 Jun 2002 10:40 pm, you wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 15:04:20 -0600
>
> Miark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anne,
> >
> > I could be wrong, but I think only digital sound can be
> > processed into surround sound. CD audio doesn't because the
> > sound card just passes along a 2-channel analog signal.
> >
> > I bet if you used a SPDIF cable from your CD drive to your
> > sound card (the two-prong rather than the four-prong
> > connection on your CD drive) you'd get surround sound from
> > CDs.
> >
> > Miark
>
> AFAIK you need a Digital cable (special little cable for CD-Roms, my g/f
> has to use one for the same reason).  They're cheap if you need to buy one.
>  Some of those audio cables have what are called "Universal Connectors"
> too, that is a bunch of little connectors on the end of the cable.  :)
>
> There *should* be a connector on the CDRom for "Digital".  Try it?
>
> Femme

Analogue worked OK under Wins, but I'll try the digital cable when I have 
time.  It's a real pain pulling everything out to get my box open.

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Re: [newbie] BIG trouble

2002-06-27 Thread C.Anne Wilson

On Wednesday 26 Jun 2002 12:26 am, you wrote:
> C.Anne Wilson wrote:
> > I have been exploring, trying to find out what is happening (or not)
> > with these devices that I can't get working.  Twice today I have got
> > into the Control Panel, Information, and asked for information about
> > usb  devices, then found the Control Panel locked up.  It can be
> > minimised, but not closed.
> >
> > I could find no way out, so I had to ask for a shutdown.  I got
> > messages about failures due to 'illegal seek'.  On re-starting there
> > appears to have been massive damage (both times, so I daren't try
> > again) requiring a manual fsck to repair it.  Now my system is up, but
> > my sound has disappeared.  I'll just have to hope I haven't done
> > irreparable damage.
> >
> > Meanwhile, how should one deal with a problem like this?  I know
> > 'kill' is supposed to get you out of trouble, but you need to know
> > what you're going to kill, don't you?
> >
> > All help gratefully received.
> >
> > Anne
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Well, whenever you cannot get to a console with ctrl-alt-F2 and login as
> root and 'ps ax | grep DrakConf' and kill it
> with a 'kill -9 (id of the program)'   When you cannot do that, then
>
> ALT-SYSRQ (screen print key)-R puts the keyboard in RAW mode
> ALT-SYSRQ-S  syncs the disks
> ALT-SYSRQ-B reboots
>
> Civileme
>
> harddrake may not be the way to go on non-working USB connected devices.
>  There are several protocols
>
> uhci
> ohci
> ehci
>
> to name three.  Better to look at /etc/modules.conf and see what you
> have loaded and for what purpose...
>
> Civileme

Not sure I entirely understand.  Are you saying that these three commands 
will, between them, cause a timely and controlled shutdown?

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Re: [newbie] Missing posts

2002-06-27 Thread C.Anne Wilson

On Wednesday 26 Jun 2002 1:29 am, you wrote:
> On Monday 24 June 2002 08:26 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Michael Adams wrote:
> > > On Sun, 23 Jun 2002 22:23, Ralph Slooten wrote:
> > >>On Sun, 23 Jun 2002, Jure Repinc wrote:
> > >>>Anne Wilson wrote:


> > > My KMail "Reply to" is left blank to ensure no probs with this list,
> > > and i don't have any.
> >
> > You could be right about the reply-to address.  FWIW I have seen your
> > reply and Ralph's, but Jure's only as a quote.
> >
> > Anne
>
> Anne:
> FWIW, your post didn't show up until this afternoon (Tuesday). I looked at
> the header, and there were no delays en route. Perhaps there's a problem
> with your ISP.
> -- cmg

You could be right there - Since Tiscali began to be popular it has got very 
busy, and access at evenings and weekends is now difficult.  It's possible, 
too that they are trying to deal with the spam problem, though I can't see 
why that would cause delays, even if it did cause dropped posts.  It's all 
puzzling.

Anne



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Re: [newbie] child-protection for Linux?

2002-06-27 Thread C.Anne Wilson

On Tuesday 25 Jun 2002 10:08 pm, you wrote:
> Anne,
>
> It would be the JavaScript option for Navigator. You could
> also use Opera for Windows. It has an option specifically
> for pop-up windows.
>
>
Thanks, Mark.  I'll try that as soon as I can get to it :-)

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Re: [newbie] TAR problems

2002-06-27 Thread Bill Davidson

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002 01:03:26 -0400
Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday 27 June 2002 12:21 am, you wrote:
> > I've been having some problems running tar.  I type something like
> > "tar -x foo.tar" and it just hangs there for a long time.  I've
> > tried using "-x -v" and "-t", but it still hangs indefinitely, doing
> > nothing. Anyone have any suggestions?
> >
> > Matt Dalen
> try " tar -xvf foo.tar" and if it is a gz or gzip file try "tar -xvzf 
> foo.tar.gz" or what ever the extension is on the file. HTH
> -- 
> Dennis M. linux user #180842

Yes. The 'f' means you're specifying a file other than the default
device, which, according to the man page is /dev/rmt0. And, just to add
to Dennis' suggestion, if the file is foo.tar.bz2, use tar xvfj. However
I'm told on older versions you need to use tar xvfI.

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