RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

2007-03-08 Thread Richard
30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but wants
to discourage it's use.
 
Richard, N7TGB

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:47 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh



At 3/8/2007 09:38, you wrote:

>If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are
>not giving a report. You are having a conversation.

Incorrect. I was passing important information & the repeater timed out.

Bob NO6B



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

2007-03-08 Thread Richard
My opinion is that a repeater should be used a lot, that way it's known to
be reliable in case of emergency use. Plus, as you say, there'll be people
listening.
 
Richard, N7TGB

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 1:02 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh



At 3/8/2007 12:48, you wrote:
>30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but 
>wants to discourage it's use.
>
>Richard, N7TGB

The idea was to restrict traffic to only emergencies, public service, 
etc. Problem now is I never find anyone listening there to relay the 
traffic to the appropriate agency, so the original intent is rather 
diminished & the repeater gets very little use.

Bob NO6B



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder]Timeout Timers (Was: A Monday Laugh)

2007-03-08 Thread Richard
You're right, I remember now.  My apologies!
 
Richard

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:07 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder]Timeout Timers (Was: A Monday Laugh)



Richard,

Please re-read my post. It is the USER radios that have a 30-second time
limit. The repeaters have three minutes, although they are commercial units
that can operate continuously. A user timeout will inform a long-winded
talker that his time has expired, with a tone from his speaker, while a
repeater timeout will never be noticed except by others.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 12:49 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

30 seconds is way too short. Sounds like someone put up a repeater but wants
to discourage its use.

Richard, N7TGB



From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:no6b%40rptrlist.w6jpl.ampr.org> w6jpl.ampr.org
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:47 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] A Monday Laugh

At 3/8/2007 09:38, you wrote:

>If you are giving a traffic report and it takes over 30 seconds, you are
>not giving a report. You are having a conversation.

Incorrect. I was passing important information & the repeater timed out.

Bob NO6B



 


RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language

2007-03-25 Thread Richard
I get so tired of people who complain about "wasting bandwidth" like it's
some precious commodity, such as beer.
 
Richard, N7TGB

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:42 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language




Oh, come'on now.  What's this got to do with repeater buidling.  However was
the original post, do me a favor . . . get a  life!
 
This forum, and it's associated bandwidth, SHOULD NOT TOLERATE these
posts.!!
 
I suggest that you find an 11 meter band thread and go from there if you
want to rant and rave.
 
This is stupid.  We don't need people trying to figure out the english
language on this forum.
 
If you need to do, then I suggest that you go back to grade school and
re-learn what was taught to you when you were young.
 
Please, please  . . . . . . . let's get on to the subject of repeater
building.
 
Don, KD9PT
 

- Original Message - 
From: Fred  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Flowers 
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language


BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ.  

 

Fred N4GER

Have a nice day.

 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:35 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language

 

i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out
grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the
post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of
there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't
spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left
dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could
understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that
the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after
that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness 

 

In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was
never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately
replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies
he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring
the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's
a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot.
This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's
get back to Repeater Builder topics. 
Gary 

I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it,  the pot
that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier
is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not
redundant at all. The "myself"  lightens the gravity of an expression,
intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves
the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to
disagree. 

 

 






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RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language

2007-03-25 Thread Richard
I'll drink to that!
 
Richard, N7TGB

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 8:10 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language




Being from South Eastern Wisconsin and the beer capitol of the world, I
agree.
 
I'll have another Miller Lite.
 
Care to join me?
 
Don, KD9PT
 

- Original Message ----- 
From: Richard <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language

I get so tired of people who complain about "wasting bandwidth" like it's
some precious commodity, such as beer.
 
Richard, N7TGB

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From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don
Kupferschmidt
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:42 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language





Oh, come'on now.  What's this got to do with repeater buidling.  However was
the original post, do me a favor . . . get a  life!
 
This forum, and it's associated bandwidth, SHOULD NOT TOLERATE these
posts.!!
 
I suggest that you find an 11 meter band thread and go from there if you
want to rant and rave.
 
This is stupid.  We don't need people trying to figure out the english
language on this forum.
 
If you need to do, then I suggest that you go back to grade school and
re-learn what was taught to you when you were young.
 
Please, please  . . . . . . . let's get on to the subject of repeater
building.
 
Don, KD9PT
 

- Original Message - 
From: Fred Flowers <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language


BECAUSE IT'S A PAIN IN THE ASS TO READ.  

 

Fred N4GER

Have a nice day.

 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 3:35 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SPAM] RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Builder language

 

i have always wondered why there are people out there that want to point out
grammatical or spelling or punctuation errors in stead of just reading the
post and either ignoreing it or deleting it instead of trying to show of
there mastery of the english language i for one don't care if you can't
spell or don't know how to use punctuation or if your participal is left
dangaling if this was a group devoted to the english language i could
understand that but it is repeater builders and as such i would expect that
the adivce be accurate and the names of the equipment be right but after
that who gives a rats *** about english language correctness 

 

In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:51:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Apparently there are many on this group who can't see that this topic was
never a matter of spelling nor is it appropriate for this group. I privately
replied to Paul with a request to please avoid the grammatical redundancies
he was using, that's it. No spelling complaints at all and he chose to bring
the whole private exchange to this group, a stupid move on his part and it's
a shame some can't see that but instead have to jump in and stir the pot.
This topic has nothing to do with the subject matter of this group so let's
get back to Repeater Builder topics. 
Gary 

I, myself, personally, think thee doth protest too much. Face it,  the pot
that was stirred was one that called the kettle black. What's even funnier
is that you are simply incorrect. The expression, I, myself, is not
redundant at all. The "myself"  lightens the gravity of an expression,
intentionally making it more tentative and less authoritative. It relieves
the listener of any sense of obligation to agree or, for that matter, to
disagree. 

 

 






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Update on License renewal

2007-04-16 Thread Richard
It is pretty straightforward these days, but it still intimidates some
people. I think a lot of the problem is that the Government has difficulty
explaining (and simplifying) things, so that puts some people off.
 
The last time I renewed I had to install Netscape so I could do it online,
as that was the only browser that would work (as stated by the FCC).
 
Richard, N7TGB
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:41 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Update on License renewal




List members,
 
A couple of weeks ago I was looking for comments / information on how to
renew my father's ham license.  A number of you responded which I archived
them into a Word document for future reference.
 
I didn't have a chance to do anything with it until today.  After re-reading
all of the posts and then logging into fcc.gov, the license renewal took
less than 20 minutes to complete.  The process is simple:
 
1.  If you don't have an FRN (FCC Registration Number), click on the link
(left hand side on the home page) to get one.  If you do have one, proceed
to step 3.
 
2.  After obtaining an FRN, click on the link that associates the FRN to
your call sign.  Complete the page that does this.
 
3.  At this point you should be presented with a number of options, one
being to renew your license (with or without any modifications).  Since I
didn't have to change anything, I just clicked on renew with no
modifications.
 
4.  Complete the application and then click on the submit.  You also have
the option at this point to print out your application or save it to a .pdf
file.  I did both.
 
It was easy to do.  And the best part is that you don't have to pay anyone
else to do it -  it's free.
 
Thanks again to all that responded to my inquiry.
 
Don, KD9PT
 

 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Replacement of an older Repeater

2007-04-16 Thread Richard
Don't you just love it when an opportunity to use a line like that comes
along?
 
Richard

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pugh
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 12:56 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Replacement of an older Repeater





Ken Arck wrote:

> <---Don't tell me that! I'm looking at a '94 Vette for my wife!

Damn good trade Sir! :-) Mike


 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Service Monitors

2007-04-21 Thread Richard
I did a brief Google search and found several hits. EBay has listings for
the operation manual/service manual on CD-ROM.
 
Richard, N7TGB

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Finch
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:31 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Service Monitors




The service manual is impossible to find, saw one on Ebay go for almost 400
Bucks
 
Paul
 
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Overstreet
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:07 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Service Monitors


While we are on the subject of service monitors---
 
An IFR 1100S is available near here---but Im not familiar with this model.
 
Questions
 
Is there a complete unit description of this model on the Web somewhere?
 
What are the weak points?What should I look out for?
 
Many thanks,
 
Scott


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Acronyms-a little OT

2007-07-08 Thread Richard
I've always known it as repair.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 11:58 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Acronyms-a little OT




In the original pristine FUBAR, did R stand for Repair or Recognition?
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/7/2007 9:18:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

And don't forget FUBAR - way worse than SNAFU.


 



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Acronyms-a little OT

2007-07-08 Thread Richard
I'm probably wrong, but I've always thought it is an Australian term that
has been adopted in this country.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:05 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Acronyms-a little OT




Where did the expression "No Joy" originate to indicate an unsuccessful
repair effort? 
 
 
 
In a message dated 7/8/2007 7:19:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

--- In Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Readers who have a military background may also remember:

My favorite military acronym is NRTS, not for what it means (not
repairable this station), but how it was used. "NRTS the damn thing
and lets go surfing". Which translates to "take this piece of
equipment that we're suppose to fix out back and shoot it, put a
"NRTS/battle damage" tag on it and ship it back to the states." Made
for an easy work load.

No I wasn't in the military, but I worked with an ex-military Vietnam
era radio tech who had many colorful stories.

73's Skip WB6YMH 


 



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RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 4 meters

2007-07-29 Thread Richard
Exactly... We only "sort of" have that band.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: 4 meters



On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Ron Wright wrote:
> So concentrating on our other VHF and UHF bands is needed. I am 
> really surprised we still have 30 MHz on the 420-450 band.

One only need look at PAVE-PAWS

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:kris%40catonic.us> us>
* WAR IS PEACE * FREEDOM IS SLAVERY *
* IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH * KETCHUP IS *
* A VEGETABLE *



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Tubes...?

2007-09-04 Thread Richard
Probably someone who is dumb enough to pay $300 for a pair of tubes isn't
going to notice that  discrepancy. Sheeseh.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John J. Riddell
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:57 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Tubes...?




I wonder why the seller claims to have Phillips tubes when the picture
clearly shows Rogers tubes ?
Rogers made tubes in Toronto for over 50 years. Ted Rogers Sr invented the
"batteryless radio"
when he developed tubes that would work with an AC filament.
His Ham call was  9RB and his radio station later became CFRB...on the air
to-day ...still...1010 Khz
The "RB" part stands for "Rogers Batteryless"
 
For the full story see the "Hammond Museum of radio" web site.
www.hammondmuseumofradio.org
 
73 John VE3AMZ

- Original Message - 
From: Jesse Lloyd <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 6:14 PM
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Oxygen Free and
stranded audio cables.

Yes,  unlike cheap imitations which give cubic audio quality, hahah.





On 9/3/07, Laryn Lohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> com>
wrote: 


> If you really need a good chuckle (unless you threw out your tube
> stock recently) go to ebay and search for a 12ax7. For example
>
http://cgi.ebay.
<http://cgi.ebay.com/Matched-New-Pair-of-Rare-Philips-mC-12AX7-Tubes_W0QQite
mZ330162061283QQihZ014QQcategoryZ50598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem>
com/Matched-New-Pair-of-Rare-Philips-mC-12AX7-Tubes_W0QQitemZ330162061283QQi
hZ014QQcategoryZ50598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> 
> I sure hope he packs them well!
> 
> 73's Skip WB6YMH
>

Well Skip I was surprised that you didn't snap them up at the -Buy It
Now- price, if only for their  audio quality. heheheheheh

Laryn K8TVZ








 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards

2008-07-05 Thread Richard
Try this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EJ332O
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 10:38 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies
Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards




On Jul 4, 2008, at 5:30 PM, Thomas Oliver wrote:

> I highly recomend one of these to anyone working around electricity.
> http://us.fluke.
<http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/Fluke+VoltAlert.htm?catalog_name=Fl
ukeUnit> com/usen/products/Fluke+VoltAlert.htm?catalog_name=FlukeUnit
> edStates
>
> Best $20.00 I spent.
>
> tom n8ie

>From the link you sent: "This product is discontinued".

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nate%40natetech.com> com



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards

2008-07-05 Thread Richard
I don't think people read the entire thread before firing off a reply.
I read your initial message, and was going to reply, but finished
reading the rest and changed my mind.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:06 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: RadioShack Recalls Power Supplies
Due toElectrocution and Fire Hazards



At 7/5/2008 10:09, you wrote:

> > The inspector I used checked every outlet in the house, & found
one in
>the
> > garage that had line & neutral reversed. It is tagged as such, &
is now
> > only used with fully insulated loads such as Christmas lights.
> >
>
>Uh...seems like it might be wiser to just rewire the receptacle? Once
>you've determined the device is miswired, I would suggest correcting
it.

Has no one seen my reply to this & like messages?

It will be fixed, but by a professional. With my luck, the circuit
breaker 
is probably wired to the neutral line as well so all I'd do is end up 
killing myself trying to fix a simple problem. When I get the
electrician 
out here, I'll have him check all that. In the meantime, Christmas
lights 
are safe to use on that outlet.

Bob NO6B



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense

2008-07-11 Thread Richard
You're right, I think the majority of cable providers will be dumping
analog within a few years in order to free up bandwidth for more
digital channels.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerald Pelnar
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 4:38 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense




- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Gomberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:dave1%40wcf.com> >
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Measuring Desense

>
> DTV is the new millennium. Those who miss it get to buy cable
forever.
>
> NE5EE with 39 digital channels over-the-air, most HD. And HDTV for 2

> years.
>

Not exactly. Cable here is only going to keep analog for three years
after 
the switch to digital.

Gerald Pelnar
McPherson, Ks



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED, sent to you by Dan Long

2008-07-12 Thread Richard
You do have a point, but there are venues for this type of message,
and this list isn't one of them.
 
There are a couple of things I look for that indicates to me that the
message is, or bordering on, spam. One is the use of huge fonts. The
second is the line that says: "send this to everyone you know." I
ignore those type of messages.
 
In addition, another person pointed out that it is over two years old.
Hardly breaking news.
 
My life isn't miserable, but I don't need those type of messages on a
list such as this.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 4:59 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: SPAM was amber alert, SNOPES VERIFIED,
sent to you by Dan Long



While I did not originate this message or have any previous part in
it's distribution, I can only wonder, Terry, if your attitude about it
might be a little different if it's contents pertained to one of those
little boys clinging to your shoulders in your picture on QRZ. The
fact that it's two years old only adds to the desperation those
parents must be feeling over this. Don't forget, you are a living
being first (even if it is only a human) and a ham second (or third or
fourth or tenth). You would do well to try to show some compassion in
that, seemingly, miserable life of yours.
Tom KB5DPE

--- In Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Terry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Scott!
> 
> Please advise the originator of this message that SPAM should not be
> posted. I for one do not appreciate receiving spam via this list.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Switching a Repeater Betwen AC Sources

2008-07-13 Thread Richard
It would have to be a very large, very high capacity UPS, in order to
handle the current the transmitters draw. This would be very
expensive. Maybe you could install a battery bank with a good quality
four stage charger to power the repeaters. When the power drops, since
the repeaters are already running on batteries, the switchover would
be seamless.
 
Your IRLP computer could be powered with a 1500 watt or better UPS.
This should allow sufficient runtime, plus the higher capacity should
get you out of the cheapo consumer grade UPS category. As Eric
suggests, you could plug the serial cable into the computer, and with
the right software, the node could monitor the battery voltage when it
is running on the UPS, then shut the computer down gracefully if the
voltage drops too low.
 
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric M.
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 9:25 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Switching a Repeater Betwen AC Sources




Why not use a UPS?

Plug the repeater and equipment into the UPS and then plug the UPS
into the receptacle of choice.  Might be cheaper and easier to do this
then to design, test, get permission from the hospital to install,
install it and maintain it.  I am sure that the hospital is going to
want to make sure what you install is approved for such use.  Some
ups's provide a serial port for communication to a serial device,
maybe you can access it remotely via packet to check status, logs and
battery condition.

Eric.

Laryn Lohman wrote:



We have two repeaters, plus an IRLP computer, on one emergency-fed
circuit at a hospital. There are normally no problems with this. 
During a recent storm, the AC panel circuit breaker tripped, taking
everything down in the middle of our Skywarn net. 

There are two receptacles near our equipment. One is normal power,
the other is the red Critical Power receptacle. What problems would
anyone see if we would feed everything from the normal power circuit,
and if it would ever trip off, switch to the red receptacle. That
way, if lightning trips the normal circuit, we would instantly feed
our equipment from the red receptacle. 

This sounds so simple, and I'm inclined to build such a setup, but am
I missing something obvious that could cause problems? Any better
ideas?

Laryn K8TVZ



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] do you believe this

2008-07-13 Thread Richard
Nope.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wright
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:10 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] do you believe this



hi all,

This kinda repeater related, but do you believe this:

http://www.koreus.
<http://www.koreus.com/video/telephone-portable-mais-popcorn.html>
com/video/telephone-portable-mais-popcorn.html

Popping pop corn with a cel phone video.

73, ron, n9ee/r

Ron Wright, N9EE
727-376-6575
MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
No tone, all are welcome.



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Switching a Repeater Betwen AC Sources

2008-07-14 Thread Richard
You do have a point about the batteries. I did see that it was
revealed in a later post that his main Skywarn (ARES? I forget which)
repeater is a MastrII, which I don't think lends itself well to run on
batteries.
 
The reason I suggested that size UPS, was to move out of the junk
consumer grade UPS' that I don't think should be in a repeater site.
Besides, think of the runtime with a UPS a large as that!
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:44 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Switching a Repeater Betwen AC Sources



On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Richard wrote:
> Maybe you could install a battery bank with a good quality four
stage 
> charger to power the repeaters. When the power drops, since the 
> repeaters are already running on batteries, the switchover would be 
> seamless.

Good idea, but batteries weigh a lot. And they can explode when struck

by lightning. Also, does the original poster "own" the radio room? If 
not, he probably can't dictate how much more space he takes in the 
place.

> Your IRLP computer could be powered with a 1500 watt or better UPS. 
> This should allow sufficient runtime, plus the higher capacity
should 
> get you out of the cheapo consumer grade UPS category. As Eric 

A 1500W UPS is overkill for a 100W load.

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:kris%40catonic.us> us>
But remember, with no superpowers comes no responsibility. 
--rly


 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Switching a Repeater Betwen AC Sources

2008-07-14 Thread Richard
I'm not taking it the wrong way, not to worry!
 
Good idea on the soliciting of funds, but I'd be careful of any
strings attached.
 
That is a good idea about the monitoring software on the IRLP node. I
use that on mine, and it sends an email to my cell phone when the
power drops, then again when it is restored.
 
 
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric M.
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 5:12 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Switching a Repeater Betwen AC Sources




Good points Richard.  

Not trying be a smart a$$, so please don't take this comment that way,
but what is the service worth to the community?  SKYWARN, and up here
in Canada CANWARN, are valuable services that can save lives.
Property can be replaced, lives can't.  Maybe there is some local,
state or federal money that could be tapped into or maybe even some
private money for that matter.  Maybe suppliers would be willing to
give the group a break on pricing or even provide it at a substantial
savings to the group.  I would go direct to the manufacturer.


Couple of thoughts on monitoring power outage.

- Some controllers have inputs that can be monitored and if a signal
is sensed it sets off an alarm.  But a walwart could be plugged into
the main receptacle and connected to a controller input with some
cleaned up DC of course.  In the event of a power failure, the
controller would no longer see the precense of the required voltage
and notification could be provided, hopefully spoken if that option is
available, and a designated person(s) could attend the site to check
power.  If you know your runtime on the UPS, you know what your
response time needs to be.

- I forgot that there was an IRLP computer at the site.  In that case,
some UPS monitoring software will run on a unix/linux platform, there
is notification as well, as this software can advise you of outages,
self test results etc, etc by email.  I am thinking here of the APC
line, we use them at our data centre for backup server power and in
all of our LAN closets for backup switch stack power.

I mentioned APC, I have nothing to do with APC, I have only used their
products and have always been pleased with the results.

Eric,
VA3EAM

Richard wrote:





It would have to be a very large, very high capacity UPS, in order to
handle the current the transmitters draw. This would be very
expensive. Maybe you could install a battery bank with a good quality
four stage charger to power the repeaters. When the power drops, since
the repeaters are already running on batteries, the switchover would
be seamless.





Your IRLP computer could be powered with a 1500 watt or better UPS.
This should allow sufficient runtime, plus the higher capacity should
get you out of the cheapo consumer grade UPS category. As Eric
suggests, you could plug the serial cable into the computer, and with
the right software, the node could monitor the battery voltage when it
is running on the UPS, then shut the computer down gracefully if the
voltage drops too low.
 
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

 
<http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=104168/grpspId=1705063108/
msgId=83529/stime=1216011209/nc1=4025338/nc2=5191955/nc3=5349276> 


 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Who is Scotch Kote?

2008-07-23 Thread Richard
I once knew a Scotch, but his last name wasn't Kote.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:24 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Who is Scotch Kote?




 
Hi All!
 
I'm sorry to say this but after all "the stuff" of the past few days
that when I saw the post on:
 
"How to remove Scotch Kote" ...
 
I thought he was a member that someone we wanted off the list!!
 
 
My mind is going . I can feel it!
 
73, Brian WD9HSY



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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders

2008-08-11 Thread Richard
In addition, the defendant will very likely be bankrupted from the
legal fees required to defend himself from such lawsuit, valid or not,
so it's a small consolation that the suit was frivolous. 
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MCH
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:59 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders



In the USA, anyone can sue anyone at any time for any reason.

They don't have to even have a valid case to file a suit. Granted, it 
won't 'go far', and they will most likely lose (unless you get a judge

who likes to make law rather than interpret it), but they can still
file 
against you.

So, while you are correct about the fact that under FCC rules you can 
restrict anyone from using your station, he is correct that they can 
file suit even though you're completely in the right.

In fact, it's more likely your FRRL could get sued for holding
meetings 
at a location that is inaccessible by the offender. It would seem to
be 
the same basis as the handicapped have used for years to successfully 
sue places that were not accessible to them, and while you can legally

prevent someone from using your transmitter, there is less grounds for

excluding someone from a social club such as the FRRL.

While I can sympathize with your situation, read the first line of
this 
post.

Personally, I've only banned one person from my repeaters, and it was 
because they willfully interfered with other operators (and were cited

by the FCC for doing so).

Joe M.

Paul Dumdie wrote:
> The gentleman who says that you will end up 
> on the wrong side of a lawsuit is just plain wrong.
> The repeater trustee may limit access by licensed
> amateurs to a repeater for any reason - any at all AND
> the is no recourse by the excluded amateur. Since the
> FRRL Aurora IL has families with children and minors
> who are amateurs we exclude all sex offenders from 
> our membership.
> 
> Also -we hold meetings in public places known under
> Illinois law as "safe zones" from which sex offenders
> are excluded; they cannot be full voting members.
> 
> Again, the gentleman who mentioned lawsuits is
> completely blowing smoke - the banned amateur excluded
> from repeater access has no legal standing - period -
> end of story
> 
> Paul R. Dumdie Jr. "73"
> W9DWP/R IRLP-NODE-4455
> 443.025/2A 145.270/1B/1Z/NAC-293
> ARC-Radio-8 KCARES
> HERD546 EX WB9QWZ
> WQGG738 AAR5CU/T
> www.riflesandradios.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 


 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders - CLOSED

2008-08-11 Thread Richard
Oops! Sorry for my last post, didn't see this in time.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders - CLOSED



OK. I thought that the requests from a few members would have sufficed
to 
close this thread. Apparently you guys don't play well at the
"policing 
yourselves" game after all. So

AS MODERATOR AND LIST OWNER - THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED!

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

- Original Message - 
From: "MCH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:mch%40nb.net> >
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Registered Sex Offenders

> In the USA, anyone can sue anyone at any time for any reason.
>
> They don't have to even have a valid case to file a suit. Granted,
it
> won't 'go far', and they will most likely lose (unless you get a
judge
> who likes to make law rather than interpret it), but they can still
file
> against you.
>
> So, while you are correct about the fact that under FCC rules you
can
> restrict anyone from using your station, he is correct that they can
> file suit even though you're completely in the right.
>
> In fact, it's more likely your FRRL could get sued for holding
meetings
> at a location that is inaccessible by the offender. It would seem to
be
> the same basis as the handicapped have used for years to
successfully
> sue places that were not accessible to them, and while you can
legally
> prevent someone from using your transmitter, there is less grounds
for
> excluding someone from a social club such as the FRRL.
>
> While I can sympathize with your situation, read the first line of
this
> post.
>
> Personally, I've only banned one person from my repeaters, and it
was
> because they willfully interfered with other operators (and were
cited
> by the FCC for doing so).
>
> Joe M.
>
> Paul Dumdie wrote:
>> The gentleman who says that you will end up
>> on the wrong side of a lawsuit is just plain wrong.
>> The repeater trustee may limit access by licensed
>> amateurs to a repeater for any reason - any at all AND
>> the is no recourse by the excluded amateur. Since the
>> FRRL Aurora IL has families with children and minors
>> who are amateurs we exclude all sex offenders from
>> our membership.
>>
>> Also -we hold meetings in public places known under
>> Illinois law as "safe zones" from which sex offenders
>> are excluded; they cannot be full voting members.
>>
>> Again, the gentleman who mentioned lawsuits is
>> completely blowing smoke - the banned amateur excluded
>> from repeater access has no legal standing - period -
>> end of story
>>
>> Paul R. Dumdie Jr. "73"
>> W9DWP/R IRLP-NODE-4455
>> 443.025/2A 145.270/1B/1Z/NAC-293
>> ARC-Radio-8 KCARES
>> HERD546 EX WB9QWZ
>> WQGG738 AAR5CU/T
>> www.riflesandradios.com
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] We all Love Super 33+ - Was "Antenna connectors sealing instructions"

2008-08-23 Thread Richard
Yep, the 33+ is good stuff. I use it both at work and at home. It is
more expensive, but cheaper in the long run.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security
of a free state, the right of the people to keep and
bear arms shall not be infringed."
 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cort Buffington
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 3:58 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] We all Love Super 33+ - Was "Antenna
connectors sealing instructions"




Note the common thread here. Almost everyone has 3M 33+ in their
recipe. As "religious" arguments go -- it looks as if this is one
thing we all agree on :)

I just spend a few hours cleaning all of the old tape off of the
wiring harnesses on TWO DB-420s. I removed the old, cleaned things up,
replaced it with 33+ and placed aluminum foil tape over it to deflect
the UV. While not the connectors, I followed the same principles so
many have mentioned here for connectors, stretch it, then ease up on
the tension when you're about done wrapping.

On Aug 23, 2008, at 4:47 AM, Mike Morris WA6ILQ wrote:




A lot of the rubber tapes melt into the connectors and 
are an absolute PITA to remove a couple of years later.

My preference is to use Scotch 33+ tape and to put two 
layers over the joint, stretching it gently so that it forms 
a very goo d bond to the coax.  THEN I put the rubber 
tape over the Scotch 33+.  When it comes time to remove 
the whole collective seal the 33+ removes very nicely 
from the coax and the connectors. 

(the same trick goes for those that use Co ax-Seal or 
similar mastic-based products. Put a layer of good 
quality tape under it and you won't be spending hours 
getting the stuff out of the knurlings of the PL259 or 
type N connectors).

Do NOT use the cheap buck-a-roll black stuff from Home 
Depot or similar - it does not hold up.  Spend the couple 
of dollars extra for the real Scotch 33+ tape.

Mike WA6ILQ

At 10:35 PM 08/22/08, you wrote:


It's very simple , obtain some self sealing rubber tape from an
electrical supplier
1/ tighten as required for mechanical connection
2/ start from the coax wrapping the rubber tape towards the join over
the joint and to the high end of the joint and coax with some over lap
, the tape will seal and water wont gain entry . make sure the finish
end is higher than the start
 easy huh ?
 Takes all of 40 seconds if your slow and careful 


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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:23:01 -0500
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Antenna connectors sealing instructions


Hello to the group:
 
Recently there was a post on the proper way to seal inline coax
connectors on a tower to make them weather resistant.
 
As I recall, there was a response from one of the members that
directed the original poster to a major antenna manufacturer which had
instructions in a .pdf on how to seal everything using tape and
sealant.
 
Anyone recall the website?  I'd like to download the .pdf into my
archives for future reference.
 
Any help is welcomed and appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
'73
 
Don, KD9PT





--
Cort Buffington
H: +1-785-838-3034
M: +1-785-865-7206





 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] We all Love Super 33+ - Was "Antenna connectors sealing instructions"

2008-08-23 Thread Richard
The last time I bought it online was at lowes.com for $3 and something
a roll. Do a Google search to see what comes up, that is what I
usually do.
 
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security
of a free state, the right of the people to keep and
bear arms shall not be infringed."
 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ronny Julian
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 4:00 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] We all Love Super 33+ - Was "Antenna
connectors sealing instructions"



Best mail order source for 33+?

K4RJJ Ronny



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] We all Love Super 33+ - Was "Antenna connectors sealing instructions"

2008-08-23 Thread Richard
Lowes.com at $3.84 a roll.
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail
<http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=45849-9
8-41277> &productId=45849-98-41277
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security
of a free state, the right of the people to keep and
bear arms shall not be infringed."
 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 4:41 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] We all Love Super 33+ - Was "Antenna
connectors sealing instructions"



Whomever locates the best price, post it here. I've always purchased
at an 
electrical supply house and get a box of ten rolls at a time for a
slightly 
better price. The first box I bought was somewhere around $18.50, so
you can 
see I've been purchasing it for a long time.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: "Ronny Julian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:k4rjj%40bellsouth.net>
net>
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] We all Love Super 33+ - Was "Antenna 
connectors sealing instructions"

> Best mail order source for 33+?
>
> K4RJJ Ronny
> 



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] We all Love Super 33+ - Was "Antenna connectors sealing instructions"

2008-08-23 Thread Richard
I didn't think of that, although I should have, because that is how
they raise prices these days. That does explain the huge disparity in
prices I saw from a brief search on Amazon.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security
of a free state, the right of the people to keep and
bear arms shall not be infringed."
 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Mowery
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 5:21 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] We all Love Super 33+ - Was "Antenna
connectors sealing instructions"






--- On Sat, 8/23/08, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] We all Love Super 33+ - Was "Antenna
connectors sealing instructions"
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 23, 2008, 8:07 PM


Lowes.com at $3.84 a roll. http://www.lowes.
<http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=45849-9
8-41277> com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=45849-98-41277
 
 
Be sure how much tape is in the roll.  I have seen some of the newer
stuff have about 50 or so feet instead of the longer 66 feet.  I may
be off in the number of feet, but some rolls are shorter.  I saw that
at a hamfest a while back.  I thought the rolls looked smaller.
 
 


 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Request

2008-09-10 Thread Richard
I like top posting because I can read the new post without having to
scroll down. If I need my memory refreshed due to CRS, I can then
scroll down and read the remainder of the thread. Top posting saves a
lot of time.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security
of a free state, the right of the people to keep and
bear arms shall not be infringed."
 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 2:14 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Request



bs

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 5:07 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Request

Eric Lemmon wrote:
> Perhaps it's better to set your mail program to put your reply at
the 
> top, with all posts following in descending order. That is the
Outlook
> default setting, and it works for me!

backwards.
and
way
that
read
to
harder
It's

Bah. Uncivilized...

It's called top-posting, and it's always been silly, ever since
Outlook 
started it. Virtually no one did it, until Outlook brought it's
special 
brain-dead e-mail implementation to the world.

People don't read English bottom to top, they read top to bottom.
Prior 
to Outlook, the people online tended to type full sentences and knew
how 
to use their computers pretty well.

If someone can't figure out how to SNIP the original message down to 
ONLY the parts they're replying to, they probably shouldn't be left 
unattended in public or allowed to play with sharp objects.

Better yet, perhaps quoting the reply at all, is really the silly
part. 
A left over from when switching messages on a BBS to read the previous

would take a lot of time. Nowadays, just follow the thread backward
for 
context, maybe?

"When I feel inclined to read poetry I take down my Dictionary. The 
poetry of words is quite as beautiful as that of sentences. The author

may arrange the gems effectively, but their fhape and luftre have been

given by the attrition of ages. Bring me the fineft fimile from the 
whole range of imaginative writing, and I will fhow you a fingle word 
which conveys a more profound, a more accurate, and a more eloquent 
analogy." - Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.

I'm sure someone will think I'm too "judgmental" for expecting someone

to at least TRY to learn how to use their computer, instead of 
butchering the English language with it. And I'm off-topic, so I'll 
shut up now. Just a pet peeve.

Top-posting is an annoying affliction of the computer age, to chop up 
our thoughts and words into useless backwards snippets.

(Want a better rant with good references? See what I think of 
PowerPoint for meetings: http://www.natetech
<http://www.natetech.com/?p=248> .com/?p=248

The Gettysburg Address parody sums that one up real well... (the link
is 
there above in the article). It definitely loses it's grandeur and 
beauty as a speech that saved a country -- when done via PowerPoint
slides!

Lovers of the language (even those of us who butcher it as I do), will

always bottom-post.

Nate WY0X



Yahoo! Groups Links

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DTV et al

2009-01-08 Thread Richard
I also have two TV converter coupons that I won't be using either, if
anybody wants 'em.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wagoner
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DTV et al




>I guess this would be a bad time to say that I have two convertor 
>coupons that I don't intend to use at this point ...

Larry Wagoner - N5WLW
VP - PRCARC
PIC - MS SECT ARRL 



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DTV et al

2009-01-08 Thread Richard
doggone it... I just looked at them and they expire Monday, so there
isn't any way to send them to anybody that they'll get there in time.
I thought they expired in February, but there I go, thinking again.
 
Sorry...
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 7:18 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DTV et al




I also have two TV converter coupons that I won't be using either, if
anybody wants 'em.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wagoner
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 5:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DTV et al




>I guess this would be a bad time to say that I have two convertor 
>coupons that I don't intend to use at this point ...

Larry Wagoner - N5WLW
VP - PRCARC
PIC - MS SECT ARRL 



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DTV et al

2009-01-09 Thread Richard
That thought had crossed my mind. I think I will.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 6:34 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DTV et al




You might want to make a purchase and then give/sell the units. Seems
a shame to waste the coupons.
 
Chuck
WB2EDV
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: Richard <mailto:slott...@gbis.com>  
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 11:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: DTV et al

doggone it... I just looked at them and they expire Monday, so there
isn't any way to send them to anybody that they'll get there in time.
I thought they expired in February, but there I go, thinking again.
 
Sorry...
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net> www.n7tgb.net

 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT - Running or Booting DOS Radio Programs in - with Windows 98se

2009-01-18 Thread Richard
The Windows 98 boot disk for installation of windows has those files.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 5:10 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: OT - Running or Booting DOS Radio
Programs in - with Windows 98se



Well... 

You completely missed the major point of my post... Not just 
making a bootable disk in/on a Windows 98 machine... you need 
to load one of the universal CD Rom Drivers on the original 
Windows 98se boot (setup) disk. 

The original boot disk or one you make must load the CD Rom 
Driver amongst other drivers when it boots (startup). 

If you make your own bootable disk you need to install one 
of the universal CD Rom Driver packages on that bootable 
disk. One of the original Win98se install disks does that 
for you. 

Next... 
s. 

> "Mark"  wrote:
> Hi Skipp!
> Thanks - but the biggest problem I have is trying to get 
> the CD to work in the laptop I am helping the guy with. 
> We're both thinking that *IF* we can get Win98 loaded 
> onto the machine, the CD drive itself will be recognized
> once the machine boots into Windows. Right now, it's a 
> Win95 laptop with only a working floppy.
> 
> I have Win98 running on an older desktop, so making a Win98 
> boot floppy is not the issue... Risking getting further 
> and further off topic, all we're trying to really do is 
> figure out how to get the CD drive to be recognized
> in the laptop once Windows boots up. The drive is seen in 
> BIOS, but not once the machine boots... But please, if 
> anyone has further suggestions on how to remedy the 
> problem -- let's take this to direct e-mail and stop the
> OT thread.
> 
> On a different topic - did you get my private message 
> regarding the Astron you were helping me with?
> 
> Mark - N9WYS
> n9wys <(at)> ameritech <(dot)> net
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of skipp025
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 12:54 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Running or Booting Dos Radio Programs in
- with
> Windows 98se
> 
> Hi Mark, 
> 
> I have not found a Dos - Radio Programming Program that I 
> haven't been able to run in/on my vintage Digital HiNote VP 
> Laptop. And I've tried similar setups many other laptops...
> 
> The only operational quirk is that a few (mostly Motorola 
> RSS/MSS) programs require you exit Windows 98se to MS Dos. 
> 
> And the really ancient programs would like you to slow the 
> world (computer) down to a crawl using the Moslow program. 
> 
> Otherwise many/most of the original Dos Programs operate 
> in Windows 98se using/within a Dos Window. 
> 
>  
> 
> What you probably need right now is... 
> 
> A copy of the original Windows 98 (install) boot disk that 
> tests for and loads a number of on floppy disk available 
> CD Rom Drivers. Rare is/was the case where the mentioned 
> disk failed to boot a usable CD rom driver. 
> 
> The disk boot process delivers you to a prompt of install 
> Windows from a CD or boot to a prompt with or without a 
> CD Rom Driver in place. From that point your machine is now 
> booted to a usable command prompt and depending on your 
> selection with or without a CD Rom Driver. 
> 
>  
> 
> How you deal with loading a program from a CD Rom, Hard or 
> floppy disk from the above mentioned command prompt is another 
> whole thread (I don't have time to type in those steps). 
> 
>  
> 
> So you need to find/obtain a copy of the mentioned Windows 
> 98se floppy disk (and there are at least two versions). 
> 
> Time to learn about the programs rawread (raw-read) and rawwrite 
> (raw-write) which allow you to capture an restore exact floppy 
> disk images. The original programs of course required you run them 
> on/at a dos command prompt... so that might be a fly in your 
> soup if you didn't have the new raw-write program for Windows 
> (mentioned below). 
> 
> With a copy of a Windows 98se boot floppy disk "image" file 
> you can restore/make your own boot disk and boot to 
> the command prompt as directed above. 
> 
> Raw read and raw write are modestly powerful programs so 
> warnings go out to casual users who don't tend to read directions. 
> 
> A quick search of the net found a windows version... Lucky 

RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT OT OT Re: Motorola Starpoint - Good on 2.4G??

2009-01-23 Thread Richard
One should be worried about impressions, though.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
rert...@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT OT OT Re: Motorola Starpoint - Good
on 2.4G??



If one is worried about impressions.





-Original Message- 
From: "tallin...@att.net" 
Sent: Jan 23, 2009 12:43 AM 
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT OT OT Re: Motorola Starpoint - Good on
2.4G?? 



"I seldom do spell checks because in informal emails, spelling just
doesn't matter."

HUH? Be assured, it DOES leave an impression!



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Check Your Traps...

2009-02-08 Thread Richard
Acorn was in the news late last year for voter fraud, mostly for
fraudulent voter registrations. I didn't follow it too closely because
it pissed me off so much. They were being investigated but, now that
obama is in office, that appears to have been stopped, and the
liberals are going to reward them with hundreds of millions of dollars
instead. In other words, your typical democratic congress at work. 
 
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wd8chl
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 5:35 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Check Your Traps...



Ken Arck wrote:
> At 08:36 AM 2/8/2009, Lee Pennington wrote:
> 
>> One Acorn Too Many and other amatuer related videos!
> 
> <---Man... I thought this was about voter fraud!
> 
> Ken
> --

h...don't get the reference





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Check Your Traps...

2009-02-09 Thread Richard

I fired off this reply without paying attention to the group it was
going to. Had I paid attention, I would have toned down the politics a
little. My apologies, I wasn't trying to anger anyone.

 
Yes, it was a "surprise".
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wd8chl
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 6:33 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Check Your Traps...




Oh, yeah, I remember them now...
And yeah, what a surprise that it's come to halt...:c/


Richard wrote:
> Acorn was in the news late last year for voter fraud, mostly for
> fraudulent voter registrations. I didn't follow it too closely
because
> it pissed me off so much. They were being investigated but, now that
> obama is in office, that appears to have been stopped, and the
> liberals are going to reward them with hundreds of millions of
dollars
> instead. In other words, your typical democratic congress at work. 
> 
> 
> Richard
> <http://www.n7tgb. <http://www.n7tgb.net/> net/> www.n7tgb.net
> 
> 
> _ 
> 
> From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Repeater-Builder@
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of wd8chl
> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 5:35 PM
> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Check Your Traps...
> 
> 
> 
> Ken Arck wrote:
>> At 08:36 AM 2/8/2009, Lee Pennington wrote:
>>
>>> One Acorn Too Many and other amatuer related videos!
>> <---Man... I thought this was about voter fraud!
>>
>> Ken
>> --
> 
> h...don't get the reference
> 
> 
> 
> 






RE: [Repeater-Builder] Ridiculus

2009-04-08 Thread Richard
Some kind of weird sandwich? 


Richard
www.n7tgb.net

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Curtis
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:31 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Ridiculus

What's a ham radio?
Chris
Kb0wlf

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lee Pennington
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 3:38 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Ridiculus





===

THIS IS ABSOLUTLY  REDICULOUS!






Subject: California County Taking Actions To Silence  ALL Ham Activity









Yahoo! Groups Links












RE: [Repeater-Builder] Ridiculus

2009-04-08 Thread Richard
YEah, but it is something that would be expected from California. 
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

  _  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Struebel
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 5:26 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Ridiculus




According to ARRL HQ it is an April Fool's joke
 
Dave WB2FTX

- Original Message - 
From: Lee Pennington <mailto:localjunkpedd...@gmail.com>  
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:38 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Ridiculus






===

THIS IS ABSOLUTLY  REDICULOUS!






Subject: California County Taking Actions To Silence  ALL Ham Activity



From:  www radiobanter com

San Luis  Obispocounty supervisors took drastic  and unprecedented action
yesterday by passing an ordinance that would  prohibit amateur radio
operators, known as "hams", from operating their  transmitting stations. The
measure was put in place to eliminate what  officials said were health risks
associated with transmitters located  close to children. A legal struggle is
expected.

By a vote of 4 to  1 with one abstention, the governing board of SLO county
took action aimed  at addressing a recent Stanford University study that
showed a correlation  between ham radios and attention de ficit disorder and
hyperactivity in  children, as well as nagging reports of interference
caused
by radio hams  operating their high-powered transmitters in residential
neighborhoods.

"Our primary responsibility is to provide a safe  environment for children
to
live without the dangerous effects of radio  waves constantly bombarding
them
and causing proven neurological and  psychological problems," said E. Duane
Nyborg, an attorney who represented  the county in several court cases in
the
past year. "Hams are not the only  culprits, but they are usually in very
close proximity to children and are  no doubt a major contributor to the
health problems we've been seeing. The  interference is just the last straw
that convinced the county that  something had to be done about it."

Atascadero city manager Laura Lopez  said that she has seen a tenfold
increase in the number of complaints of  interference from ham radio
operators in the last six months. New housing  developments which have
dramatically increased the population there and  placed homes unusually
close
to each other are the predominant  contributing factor. Similar conditions
exist in most of the  county.

"We have radio hams getting into toasters, electric pianos,  light bulbs,
everything, from their powerful transmitters that cause all  this static.
Many of our citizens can't use basic appliances or watch  television because
of all the junk that the hams are broadcasting," she  tol d the
Press-Telegram
by telephone.

Hams can't say they didn't  see this coming. They were warned by the county
last year that if they did  not submit to a check of their stations by
officials, they would have  limits imposed on their operation. Few consented
to the searches, which  most decried as invasive. But nobody expected a
total
ban on  transmissions.

"This is outrageous. You'd better believe we're going to  fight back and
win.
This is a totalitarian seizure of our rights that is  totally illegal and
can't
stand up," said Frank Wilson, a local ham club  president. He said there
were
no formal plans for an appeal yet but  preparations were underway.

Wilson claims that a federal preemption of  local zoning ordinances, called
PRB-1, delineates three rules for local  municipalities to follow in
accomodating antenna structures such as are  used by hams. But Nyborg says
that PRB-1 applies to antenna structures  only, and not the transmitters
used
to feed the antennas with a radio  signal. "We know all about PRB-1. That's
why we said nothing about  antennas. This law is not about antennas. It goes
after the root of the  problem, which is the transmitters that put out huge
signals that get into  the brains of our children and short-circuit them
out.
Those are the  facts, that's what the scientific evidence points to," he
said
at a news  conference called shortly after the county's action.

In 2008, a grou p  of researchers in the school of Environmental Health and
Safety at  Stanford published their findings that exposure to ham radio
signals for  three hours per day increased the risk of hyperactivity and
related  disorders by 10% in children aged 12 and under. This effect was
seen
when  a typical ham radio was turned on up to ¼ mile away. The San Luis
Obispo  city office says that up to 11,000 children in that city live that
close  to a ham radio station.

The Stanford study showed that frequencies  around 3.5, 7, and 14 Megahertz
were the most harm

RE: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR

2009-04-12 Thread Richard
Gosh, and it didn't sell!
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:01 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR




I have to wonder if the listing was posted on April Fool's Day.
 
Chuck
WB2EDV
 

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Underwood <mailto:b...@rahul.net>  
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 12:55 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] All Band Repeater - HUMOR

I waited to post this until the auction had ended, but now decided to send
it so we can all learn: 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item
=270369626907> &ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=270369626907 
or search for ended item 270369626907 

I especially like the part where he says "This is an amazingly sensitive
receiver. We have noticed little to no difference in sensitivity as to
compared to a single band receiver..."; seems like a lot of us have been
knocking ourselves out for nothing. 

Bob Underwood AA6BT 
Silicon Valley Emergency Communications System 








RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MASTR II PTT

2009-04-18 Thread Richard
It would help if you would post a schematic showing how you are wiring it,
and what is is you are wanting to do. When you said there is only 1/2 volt
difference between on and off, it indicates that your transistor is wired
incorrectly.
 
Working from memory (and that is suspect!), you wouldn't need any resistors
in the collector-emitter circuit, just a resistor in the base circuit for
current limiting, and another from the base to the emitter for bias.
Additionally, if you are switching a relay, you'd need a reverse biased
diode across the relay coil (if there isn't one internally) to prevent
damage to the transistor. I don't think you'd need a relay to switch PTT on
a MastrII, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
 
A typical repeater controller uses an open collector transistor to switch
external devices, which is a fancy way of saying that the transistor acts
like a switch, and can be used to switch PTT. When the transistor is turned
on by the controller CPU, it simply pulls the PTT line to ground, thereby
keying the transmitter. Without looking up the specs of a Com port, I
couldn't say if it can be used for that, especially since I don't know which
control signal you are using. Someone else mentioned using the printer port
and it seems to me that it would be ideal for your application.
 
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Densler
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:06 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MASTR II PTT





With the simple echolink interace which has a NPN transistor doing the
switching the voltage across the PTT line and ground is 7v when the com port
is not active and 6.5v when it’s active.  So I am only getting a ½ volt drop
instead of a total short to ground.  Is it because the transistor can’t pull
it down far enough?  Will a transistor with a higher power dissipation help?


 

Thanks,

Vern

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Vernon Densler
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 6:54 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MASTR II PTT

 






OK.  I am at my whit’s end here.  The transistor won’t bring the PTT line
down enough to trigger.  The optoisolator won’t either.  The mechanical
relays can’t be latched by the com port.  The SSR latches but won’t unlatch
with DC.  So do I run the SSR into an AC mechanical relay?  Sounds like a
serious Rube Goldberg way of doing it but it should work.  There has to be
another way though.  

 

It worked fine with the RC 1000 keying it so what does Ron have in that
circuit that does the magic?

 

Vern

 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ralph Mowery
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 5:56 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MASTR II PTT

 








You probably overlooked the simple thing.  The PTT line is DC and once the
SCR fires it will latch.  If you had AC then the voltage goes to zero and
the SCR unlatches.



--- On Fri, 4/17/09, Vernon Densler  wrote:

From: Vernon Densler 
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MASTR II PTT
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 4:35 PM

 

I got a Solid State Relay and the com port will trigger it.  (same thing I
use to control my Christmas lights from my computer).  However for some
reason the PTT won’t drop when the SSR shuts off.  I know there is some
voltage bleed on them but I can’t figure out why it would stay grounded
afterwards.  Any suggestions on that one?

 






RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of stolen equipment recovered - is some yours?

2009-07-02 Thread Richard
Are you kidding? The politicians don't care about the Constitution, to them
it is some totally irrelevant old document. In other words, they ignore it
and do whatever they want.

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
 

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Kincaid
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 1:04 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: IMPORTANT - large amount of stolen equipment
recovered - is some yours?

This is really rather frightening.  Many of us have similar collections of
gear, and I'm wondering on what basis it was seized.  I don't remember
anything in the Constitution about seizure of potentially stolen property.
I hope the stuff is his and he gets a really huge settlement (and that the
folks he was jamming get the same from him).  The idea that a government
minion can simply decide that you have too much radio gear and take it seems
rather onerous.  

'JK

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Mike Morris WA6ILQ 
wrote:
>
> Recently the FCC busted a local jammer and when his residence
> was searched they found a treasure trove. There are over 200 pieces
> of equipment involved including laptops, desktops, over 120 handhelds
> and several repeaters.  And broadcast equipment including a
> commercial grade FM transmitter.
> 
> If anybody has serial numbers on file that matches anything on
> the lists mentioned below I think that the Ventura County Sheriff's
> Department would like to hear from you - contact Detective Jon Smith
> at (805) 494-8216 or via e-mail at jon.smith (at) ventura (dot) org
> 
> The snippet below is from the "CGC Communicator, a broadcast industry
> weekly newsletter published by Robert F. Gonsett, W6VR,  cgc333 (dot) connectnet (dot) com>, Copyright 2009, Communications
> GeneralR Corporation (CGC).
> Reprinted with permission, and the newsletter has given permission
> for others to do likewise.  No additional permission is needed.
> 
>  >**
>  >
>  >  LIST OF POTENTIALLY STOLEN EQUIPMENT IN THE BONDY CASE
>  >
>  >The Ventura County Sheriff's Department has prepared its
>  >list of potentially stolen radio equipment in the Kevin Bondy
>  >case.  Mr. Bondy is accused of jamming some southern California
>  >radio frequencies as discussed in recent CGC Communicator
>  >newsletters.  A police search of his residence turned up an
>  >extraordinary amount of potentially stolen radio gear.
>  >
>  >Your help is needed.  Is any of this equipment yours?  Would
>  >you copy this story to others in the land-mobile and broadcast
>  >industries, particularly to equipment dealers and publications?
>  >If some or all of this equipment is stolen, the owners need to
>  >contact the Ventura County Sheriff pronto.
>  >
>  >Items #120 - 123 involve FM broadcast equipment; the rest
>  >is land-mobile gear (including repeaters) with a few miscellaneous
>  >items mixed in (e.g. computers, CB & amateur radio gear).  The
>  >first URL takes you to the list.  The second URL shows pictures
>  >of the FM broadcast equipment and gives contact information for
>  >the Ventura County Sheriff.
>  >
>  >Communications General Corp. has been in touch with Broadcast
>  >Electronics concerning Item #120, the solid state 1,000 watt FM
>  >broadcast transmitter.  Unfortunately, the serial number is a bit
>  >outdated for their records, but perhaps you or an equipment dealer
>  >would have a record of the sales transaction.
>  >
>  >Thanks for helping by looking over the equipment list and
>  >forwarding this story to others.
>  >
>  >  Equipment list:
>  >  http://earthsignals.com/add_CGC/Oaks_Mall_09-5771.pdf
>  >
>  >  Photographs of the FM broadcast equipment:
>  >  http://earthsignals.com/add_CGC/Letters/Stolen%20Equipment.htm
>  >
>  >  Background information on Mr. Bondy:
>  >  http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-290813A1.html
>  >
>  >**
>








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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering & types of coax connectors

2009-07-20 Thread Richard
Top quality crimpers are a must, though.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 
"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually 
run out of other people's money."
-Margaret Thatcher

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:43 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering & types of coax
connectors


  


Also, the Air Force did a similar study and concluded the same thing with
crimped center pins.  When properly installed, I never had one go bad.

Mike

WM4B

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:27 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering & types of coax
connectors

  

Years ago, TX/RX Systems studied crimped connectors and concluded that a 
properly crimped RF connector (center pin soldered) provided a superior 
mechanical connection while maintaining the required electrical 
specifications.

This information came from an individual who worked at their Angola, NY 
facility for many years.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: "Barry" mailto:atec77%40hotmail.com> com>
To: mailto:repeater-builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 5:19 PM
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: crimping vs soldering & types of coax 
connectors

>
> Tells me little , worth every penny but for the amateur a 20$ pair would 
> suffice .
>
> 




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters

2009-07-26 Thread Richard
I like your thinking, and it pretty much reflects my point of view. This
brings to mind an amateur on another list who has a linked system in a large
city, maybe Chicago, I don't remember; at any rate, it is an area with no
available pairs at all. This amateur, with three linked repeaters, is very
proud of the fact that his *private* system has only three users. This, to
me, is wrong and selfish in many ways.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 
"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually 
run out of other people's money."
-Margaret Thatcher

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Rabin
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:57 PM
To: Repeater-Builder
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Closed Repeaters


  

Please excuse Me. I feel compelled to make this one comment. Consider for a
moment the fact that when one employs a repeater, they are effectively
sitting on two Amateur frequencies within a given geographic area. If I were
to claim two Amateur frequencies let's say for instance on the HF band, and
tell others they cannot use them what would most of us say? It seems to me
that repeater coodination in the Amateur band is more of a courtesy than
anything else. I see no reason that if and when a given repeater in not in
use that like any other frequency or split in this case, that someone else
can't use it as long as there is no interference to another station in
operation. I know that may upset some, but we need to take responsibility
for our operations as Amateurs. It's not that I don't believe in closed
repeaters or wish to chastise those who do, but by default I believe they
may be right on this one. I haven't even touched on the fact that repeater
usage is down dramatically in most areas in the country. In a time like this
we need activity on our systems we have in place to attract new folks in the
hobby, not idle machines with restrictions. Just my 2 cents. Enjoy,, 

-Alan 




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: "EOC" Frequencies Available?

2009-08-31 Thread Richard
Navy MARS is also requiring a general license.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 
"When they call the roll in the Senate,
the Senators do not know whether to
answer 'present' or 'not guilty.'"
--President Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919)

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dmur...@verizon.net
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:34 AM
To: dmur...@verizon.net
Cc: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com; Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: "EOC" Frequencies Available?


  


Per the new training from Cheif ARMY MARS the new requirement is to have a
General class amateur ticket. Right now they are giving 1 year for
Technicians to up-grade to General.
Not sure what Air Force or NAVY are requiring.
 
 
David

 August 2009 01:22:41 PM, Repeater-Builder@
<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com wrote:


  




I think the requirement over here is Technician class.

 


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From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@
<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
dmur...@verizon. <mailto:dmur...@verizon.net> net
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:20 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Cc: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: "EOC" Frequencies Available?

 

  

True, MARS has changed with the times and now they are making it a
requirement to have at least a General license. When I first got into MARS
in the 60s I was able to start off with my NOVICE class license.

MARS has had some hard times with frequency allocations sharing some of the
spectrum with cross the border comms but today they are a valuable part of
DOMS and FEMA for comms support.

 

 

 

David











RE: [Repeater-Builder] Museum of Radio and Technology

2009-09-21 Thread Richard
Boy, would I love to visit that museum! I do remember some of that stuff,
and I used to own some of it.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 
"When they call the roll in the Senate,
the Senators do not know whether to
answer 'present' or 'not guilty.'"
--President Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919)

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ka9qjg1
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 1:30 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Museum of Radio and Technology


  

I have seen a lot of info and History of Communications Equipment , But I
really enjoyed Watching this and looking at the Pictures , I thought I would
share the Link with the Group It is a Shame some of us are actually old
enough to recall some of it And some of us are still using it 

Set back take a break and watch 

Don KA9QJG 

To see PICTURES Make sure You to click on the arrow button after seeing the
short video.

After the short video, use the forward or reverse arrows to view the photos.

ENJOY http://tinyurl. <http://tinyurl.com/kmtxlf> com/kmtxlf






RE: [Repeater-Builder] Surface Mount Device Soldering Video (very cool)

2009-11-03 Thread Richard
Sure makes it look easy...
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 
"When they call the roll in the Senate,
the Senators do not know whether to
answer 'present' or 'not guilty.'"
--President Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919)

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:03 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Surface Mount Device Soldering Video (very cool)


  


If you have the time, this is a killer video worth 
watching. 

http://www.curiousi
<http://www.curiousinventor.com/guides/Surface_Mount_Soldering/101>
nventor.com/guides/Surface_Mount_Soldering/101 

enjoy, 
skipp 






RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Time for GOD

2009-11-20 Thread Richard
Well, it certainly is off topic, but you should have more of an open mind.
After all, people are entitled to their opinions, and to be able to speak
their minds.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but
rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting
brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."
 --Samuel Adams

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hfarrenkopf
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:55 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Time for GOD


  

What is this crap on here? Please ban the originator.

Delusional stuff is not welcomed by me!

There are no gawds BTW!






RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Time for GOD

2009-11-21 Thread Richard
Thanks, I appreciate it!
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but
rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting
brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."
 --Samuel Adams

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gervais
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 6:34 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Time for GOD


  


Richard
your web site is great,and the pictures too
73/s
gervais ve2ckn

From: James Adkins <mailto:adkins.ja...@gmail.com>  
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 8:36 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Time for GOD

We do still have freedom of speech and freedom of religion in this country.
Feel free to use your delete button if it "offends" you.


On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Richard mailto:gbis-reply-...@gbis.com> gbis.com> wrote:


  



Well, it certainly is off topic, but you should have more of an open mind.
After all, people are entitled to their opinions, and to be able to speak
their minds.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but
rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting
brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."
 --Samuel Adams

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater-Builder@
<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
hfarrenkopf
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:55 PM 

To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Time for GOD


  

What is this crap on here? Please ban the originator. 



Delusional stuff is not welcomed by me!

There are no gawds BTW!














-- 
James Adkins, KB0NHX
Vice-President -- Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc. (KC0LUN)

Southern Missouri Frequency Coordinator - Missouri Repeater Council
www.nixahams. <http://www.nixahams.net> net

The Nixa Amateur Radio Club - "There is no charge for awesomeness!" (Well,
only $1.00 per month)





RE: [Repeater-Builder] something altogether different

2010-01-06 Thread Richard
I have two old rotary phones, one is an old fashioned wooden wall mount that
was built in the 60s.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 
"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but
rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting
brushfires of freedom in the minds of men."
 --Samuel Adams

 

 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Kelsey
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 7:00 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] something altogether different


  

Ah yes... haven't tapped out a number in years. Used to run in to phones 
with no dials once in a while.

Chuck
WB2EDV

- Original Message - 
From: mailto:no6b%40no6b.com> >
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] something altogether different

Wondering if the box supported pulse service &
> not owning a rotary phone (I'm not an antique collector), I picked up my
> touchtone phone & hand-pulsed the hook to dial my wife's cell phone. It
> worked.
>
> Bob NO6B






[Repeater-Builder] RE: follow up on lightening strike last spring

2010-01-16 Thread Richard
I know its been a long time since I first posed the question on what might be 
causing the noise we were experiencing after being hit by lightening. After 
many trips to the Technical shop for testing, we replaced the repeater ( was a 
vertex 5000, now a Icom ur2000) and are in process of checking out controllers. 
The duplexers were my big worry. And yes, it would seem that concern wasn't 
unfounded. We started experiencing a degradation on the receive side of the 
repeater and then, a leakage from the cans. We had the duplexers checked out 
with two different service monitors and found nothing! The technician who works 
on duplexers took ours apart and found only a little bit of carbon, but that 
was it. they checked out ok. We put them back into service and the  noise was 
there making communications impossible.
We are now going to replace them with a 6 configuration instead of the four we 
have been using. 
My question to the list is, besides the noise factor and crackling noise, is 
there any other methode of discovering if the can's are bad or not?
Yes, I did and have been losing sleep over this one. 

I also wish to thank Kevin and  the group for all their feedback on my question 
I put in last summer. You helped more than you know.

Rich Ranta K8JX
www.w8usa.org



[Repeater-Builder] RE: follow up on lightening strike last spring response

2010-01-17 Thread Richard
Sorry if I've been late in posting. First, the antenna and hard line is ok. 
We've tested that part out and its working. We think ( I ) that we got zapped 
through a unused phone line which is mounted behind the repeater rack.
Yes, we have tested the can's using both a IRL (?sp) and a General Dynamics 
service monitor. They were taken apart and cleaned and retuned. Everything 
indicated they were functioning normally. Till we put them back in service. I 
don't know if they were tested with a dummy load. The technicians made many 
trips to the site: the technicians worked for the company that we rent the site 
from. We replaced all of the connectors and only found one that had scorched 
indications on it, but that was all.
I asked if any of you knew how to find out if a can was operational, because 
all the test equipment that was used  indicated they were ok. We finally found 
a workable solution. We added a fifth can, tuned to the transmit freq. That 
stoped the crackling noise. 
Now we're going to replace the can's, and go with a 6 can configuration. this 
is what was reconmended by the technician.

Rich K8JX

www.w8usa.org



RE: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-4 Controller

2010-02-13 Thread Richard
Should you not have a copy of the manual, you can get one from my website;
it is a great help and is how I learned to program those controllers.
 
http://www.n7tgb.net/Pages/radio/controller_manuals.htm
 
Richard
www.n7tgb.net <http://www.n7tgb.net/>  
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 4:05 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-4 Controller


  


Bill-thank you VERY MUCH-great way to get me up and running.

Andy

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Hudson
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 3:39 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-4 Controller

Andy

The attached will get you started with a repeater on port 1, and 3 remote
bases on 2 3 and 4.

There are no id's included, although the contents have a line that deletes
them.

Follow them with a new ID on the next line.

It has a cactus style beep boop - but you can change it to anything you
want.

Hang times are there for the repeater, but zero for ports 2 3 and 4.

You can reverse engineer these commands and put in the parameters that you
want to change, and then load this back in as an ascii file to the
controller.

Each time you want to change something, change the attached .txt file, and
upload it again.

Bill Hudson

W6CBS

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Seybold
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 2:19 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RLC-4 Controller

  

I am in the process of installing a new 6 Meter GE Mastr II repeater for our
radio club, it came with a pre-programmed RLC-4 controller since the package
was removed from service elsewhere. I don't loaded the software on the RLC-4
site but found out that I cannot use it to read the controller, only to
reprogram it for the new call sign etc. 

I am hoping that someone on here has figured out a way to import an existing
RLC-4 set-up data so that it can be modified and I don't have to go through
the entire programming from the beginning-anyone have experience with this?

Thanks

Andy W6AMS

cid:image001.jpg@01CA5969.2F1EB460

 <mailto:aseyb...@andrewseybold.com> aseyb...@andrewseybold.com

315 Meigs Road, Suite A-267
Santa Barbara, CA 93109
805-898-2460 office
805-898-2466 fax

 <http://www.andrewseybold.com> www.andrewseybold.com


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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-03 Thread Richard
I feel a little pessimistic about this, in that I expect it to happen more
frequently as time passes. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help feeling that
we are going to gradually lose our spectrum as companies with deep pockets
buy our frequencies out from under us.
 
Richard
www.n7tgb.net <http://www.n7tgb.net/>  

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. 
-- Ronald Reagan 
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Henry
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:15 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band


  

Re:  the waiver request by ReconRobotics for 420 - 450 MHz operation.

Hams get the shaft again...

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-03 Thread Richard
Since they'd be competing with high powered repeaters and government radars,
I thought 2.4 gig would have been a better choice than 70cm, but that's just
me...
 
Richard
www.n7tgb.net <http://www.n7tgb.net/>  

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. 
-- Ronald Reagan 
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DCFluX
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 12:24 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band


  

Take that crap up to 2.4 GHz with the rest of the garbage.





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-03 Thread Richard
Try this: http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2010/02/25/11361/?nc=1
 
 
Richard
www.n7tgb.net <http://www.n7tgb.net/>  

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. 
-- Ronald Reagan 
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of larynl2
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 1:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band


  

Anyone have a real link to this? Those of us on the Web do not get
attachments...

Laryn K8TVZ

--- In Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, George Henry  wrote:
>
> Re:  the waiver request by ReconRobotics for 420 - 450 MHz operation.
> 
> Hams get the shaft again...
> 
> 
> George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
>






RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-03 Thread Richard
That is my concern, it'll be a foot in the door.
 
Richard
www.n7tgb.net <http://www.n7tgb.net/>  

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. 
-- Ronald Reagan 
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Harrison
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band


  


This is already happening in Australia.  Amateurs are secondary users for
420-450MHz, with military and radio location being primary.
 
A few years ago our ACMA introduced "Low Interference Potential Devices"
license class (any modulation, for any purpose, 25 mW maximum, no license
required).
Allegedly this was to allow luxury cars to be imported without modifying
their electronic door and security keys.
Not surprisingly there are a few luxury cars still parked near amateur
repeaters that can't be unlocked  :-)
Due to poorly written legislation, a whole lot of other devices have now
flooded the market, including continuously transmitting data modules, and
all cause a lot of trouble to amateur operators and repeaters.
 
The bottom end of the band 420-430MHz of the amateur band has also been
eroded by government digital radio networks (because it's cheaper to import
equipment from overseas that's already in that band).  Amateurs in parts of
the country are no longer allowed to use that part of the band.
 
I hope the FCC doesn't follow suit although it sounds like they already are!
 
Mark, VK3BYY

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Thursday, 4 March 2010 07:11 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band


I feel a little pessimistic about this, in that I expect it to happen more
frequently as time passes. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't help feeling that
we are going to gradually lose our spectrum as companies with deep pockets
buy our frequencies out from under us.
 
Richard
www.n7tgb.net <http://www.n7tgb.net/>  

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. 
-- Ronald Reagan 
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Henry
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:15 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band


  

Re:  the waiver request by ReconRobotics for 420 - 450 MHz operation.

Hams get the shaft again...

George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread Richard
In my view this opens the door to other encroachments on our frequency
allocations.
 
Richard
www.n7tgb.net <http://www.n7tgb.net/>  

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. 
-- Ronald Reagan 
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jordan
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 10:55 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm
Band


  


I just read the FCC order.I don't see a significant threat to amateur radio
UHF communications from this device. 

-  the price is very high for what you get - few will be purchased -
the technology implementation is lam

-  the incidents where the device would be used are few and far
between

-  the device erp is .25watt to max 1 watt into a hand-held rubber
duck antenna at the operator position and the device crawls on the ground
with internal ant

-  the statement in the order makes the device operations secondary
to amateur radio

-  there are many caveats in the order with regard to when the
device may be used

What am I missing?

73,

Dave

Wa3gin

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Henry
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 1:44 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm
Band

  

That IS the item...  ReconRobotics' website has the disclaimer that the
device has not received FCC authorization & may not be sold.  







RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

2010-03-04 Thread Richard
I believe the ARRL did. I posted the link to it in an earlier message.
 
Richard
www.n7tgb.net <http://www.n7tgb.net/>  

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives. 
-- Ronald Reagan 
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Struebel
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:31 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm
Band


  


Regarding the orginal R&O, does anyone have access to the comments that were
received by the FCC on this proposal?  Did the ARRL comment on it?
 
Dave WB2FTX

- Original Message - 
From: kg6ziu <mailto:ehr...@charter.net>  
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:49 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: FCC R&O Involving the Amateur 70cm Band

  

Laryn and others,

Here is the link to the R&O #08-63 . Please notice the dates on this-it was
in 2008... I do not think that the FCC should grant this at all, but we need
to let our representatives know both at the ARRL, FCC and
senators/congresscritters know that we find this encroachment unacceptable.
Maybe they should take over UPS's claim on the 220 band...

Phil KK6PE
http://fjallfoss.
<http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-08-1077A1.txt>
fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-08-1077A1.txt 

--- In Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "larynl2"  wrote:
>
> Anyone have a real link to this? Those of us on the Web do not get
attachments...
> 
> Laryn K8TVZ





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Outdoor Pole or Wall Repeater Cabinet - Weather Resistant

2010-03-27 Thread Richard
Heh Thanks, I just sprayed coffee all over my keyboard!
 

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jack Taylor
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 8:35 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Outdoor Pole or Wall Repeater Cabinet -
Weather Resistant


  


Use an outdoor crapper and hang an "Out of Order" sign on it.
 
Jack - N7OO
 

- Original Message - 
From: kg2bv <mailto:kg...@yahoo.com>  
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 5:55 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Outdoor Pole or Wall Repeater Cabinet - Weather
Resistant

  

Our Club (www.CNYARA. <http://www.CNYARA.com)is> com)is in need of a weather
resistant Repeater Cabinet that will house our 2-Meter Repeater, to include
all of the equipment necessary (Duplexers, Power Supply, etc) to operate. We
currently have a nice interior cabinet, however it has been determined that
it is in our best interest to move the Repeater outside of the structure. We
are mounting on a Farm Silo & the grain creates an acetic atmosphere that
plays hell on electronics. 

I looked these cabinets up commercially and on eBay and they are extremely
expensive. 

Any idea's? 

73,

Tony, KG2BV
kg...@yahoo. <mailto:KG2BV%40yahoo.com> com





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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NOS GE Phoenix For Sale

2010-03-28 Thread Richard
The combination number says it is a two channel 150-174 Mhz

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kb5zxm
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:30 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: NOS GE Phoenix For Sale


  

I forget how many frequency's will it accept?

--- In Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Gary"  wrote:
>
> New/old stock GE VHF Phoenix PSX-200 synthesized mobile for sale. Model
> N5HH2w40CB with mic, bracket, original order card, and some wiring.
> Absolutely new in the box. I think it's all there but not sure so offered
as
> is. I need the storage space back so will take $50 with free shipping in
the
> continental U.S. Reply directly to me (off this email group) if
interested.
> Thanks.
> 
> Gary
>






RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse

2010-04-12 Thread Richard
Thanks!
 
Sounds like it is time to change the password for the site, hmm?
 

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 12:01 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse


  

Those that were having issues, please try it again. I think I found the 
bad code. (I'm not sure how it got there) I'd like a few people to check 
and see if there are still issues.

Thanks,
Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

George Henry wrote:
> It only appears on the "front end" page, www.repeater-builder.com ...
where I have never seen a banner ad appear before. If you go directly to the
technical information page, www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip , no problem.
(that's the page I have saved in my favorites, anyway)
> 
> 
> 
> George, KA3HSW / WQGJ413
> 
> 
>> From: Doug Bade mailto:kd8b%40thebades.net> net>
>> To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Mon, April 12, 2010 10:56:10 AM
>> Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
>>
>> 
>> Avast went RED here too.. I have never seen it do that. Blocked a Trojan
on connect.. dropped the site. not from google search.. direct from the
hyperlink Jim posted.I would say it is real..
>> 
>> Doug
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From:Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:Repeater-
buil...@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of James Cicirello
>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 11:52 AM
>> To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
>> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Trojan Horse
>> 
>> 
>> Kevin and moderators.
>> I have been reading about problems getting onto repeater-builder. com.
This morning my Avast flagged the site with the following.
>> Malware, JS:llredir.AO tr TROGAN HORSE VPS Verision 100412-0, 4/12/2010.
You probably already have the info. but wanted to make sure.
>> KA2AJH 
>>
>> -- 
>> Jim Cicirello
>> 181 Stevens Street
>> Wellsville, N.Y. 14895
>> (585)593-4655
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far

2010-04-25 Thread Richard
Can you send me a copy of the program,please?
 
Thanks,
 
a...@n7tgb.net

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kevin valentino
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:40 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far


  



Sent the program to George, Bon & Hal.
If anyone else wants a copy you can ask myself or them. Please do not post
It in a file section on any groups, (I look in those), It's copyrighted.
 
It's nothing fancy but does a fairly good job with some nice little
utilities to boot. Old as dirt but hey I did'nt pay for it either.
 
To the ones that get it, please let me know how you like it. I have another
that's great for calculating transformers and other such good junk.
 
Enjoy

--- On Sat, 4/24/10, kevin valentino  wrote:



From: kevin valentino 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 10:31 PM


  
Allright just found the darn program. Was on an older machine. Norton picks
up a virus, ARRGH, so i will remove it and send it to ypu. You can share
this amongst yourselves but I would appreciate if you DID NOT upload it to
any files section of ANY group , it is copyrighted. Back to removing the
NYB, wish me luck

--- On Sat, 4/24/10, kevin valentino  wrote:




From: kevin valentino 
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 9:00 PM


  
OK there is a "cute" little program that actually comes fairly close to
calculating effective radio range based on height, power, line loss(has a
cable database), and frequency. Add the cavity losses in with the line loss.
Calculate the portable at 6 feet, unity gain, using worst case terrain type
scenario. I will send it to you.

--- On Sat, 4/24/10, George  wrote:




From: George 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: how far
To: Repeater-Builder@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 8:43 PM


  
ok the antenna is from cell site 14dbm 4-element in a plastic housing, the
amplifier is 600 watts capable linear mosfet 8element hybrid splitters and
combiners... but the power supply is up to 65 ampers at 24 volts, driven by
a "C" class 130 watt amplifier. the antenna is not on a commercial tower (no
luck here). 20 feet above the house. the line is heliax andrew semi-rigid.
the repeater is in the attic and the line is 30feet. the duplexer is celwave
doesn't like more than 450 watts in.

--- In Repeater-Builder@
<http://us.mc837.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups
.com> yahoogroups. com, kevin valentino  wrote:
>
> Any approximation would depend on the repeater antenna height and the
terrain of the area.
> I would hate to see the price tag on an 800MHZ 450W amplifier :-)
> I do mean literally "approximation. " Many factors come into play.
Especially at high frequencies.
> The length and type of the antenna feedline, gain of antenna used, etc.
> --- On Sat, 4/24/10, George  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: George 
> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] how far
> To: Repeater-Builder@
<http://us.mc837.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups
.com> yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, April 24, 2010, 7:24 PM
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> 
> what is the range of a 800mhz handheld 4watts with msf5000 repeater
450watts on the antena
>






RE: [Repeater-Builder] fcc violation notice???

2010-04-30 Thread Richard
The few hams I've talked to, say "well, the frequencies aren't ours anyway,
so the FCC can do whatever they want with them. So, given that attitude, I'm
not surprised that few are commenting.
 

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kris Kirby
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:33 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] fcc violation notice???


  

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010, Bill Smith wrote:
> Recon Scout is one that just received FCC approval for video in the 
> 439 MHz area.

I know about the Recon Scout. My name is all over the FCC's comments 
system rebutting the manufacturer's attorney. I'm at a bit of a loss as 
to why more amateurs aren't getting involved in trying to stop this 
misuse of spectrum. Even when the FCC makes an order, the affected users 
have a right to petition for reconsideration. 

I'm wondering if the device below is a Recon Scout, or if it is a device 
by another manufacturer.

> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Kirk Just Kirk wrote:
> > For some odd reason POLICE DEPTS. think they are exempt from any
> > frequency co-ordination!! There is one Law Enforcement agency here in
> > Las Vegas that has a "Robot" device that receives it's commands on
> > 154.570Mhz !!! WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING This freq is
> > MURS-4, it's unlicensed, but it IS a licensed channel used by damn
> > near every fast food eatery for it's drivethru window!! Can you
> > possibly think of a poorer choice of RF freq to control a Robot on
> > Dont get me started on the fact they use 439.250Mhz for the Video
> > feeds!!! besides it being used for HAM ATV it's a very common cable TV
> > channel!!
> 
> What manufacturer makes this robotic device?

--
Kris Kirby, KE4AHR
Disinformation Analyst





RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers

2010-05-01 Thread Richard
This has come up before, and I've also seen it come up in other groups. The
"anything goes in an emergency" crowd cannot be convinced that there are
virtually always consequences for their proposed actions, no matter what the
FCC says.
 
Hopefully the thread will die out soon; in the meantime some of the opinions
expressed are pretty funny.

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers


  


Kinda wandering off repeaters here, aren’t we?

Mike

WM4B

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Kaufman
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 3:06 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: A warning to Land Mobile Radio Dealers

  

Brian Raker wrote:
>
>
> §97.111 Authorized transmissions.
> (a) An amateur station may transmit the following types of two-way 
> communications:
> ...
> (3) Transmissions necessary to exchange messages with a station in 
> another
> FCC-regulated service while providing emergency communications;
>
> Yes, we are allowed to do so only while providing emergency 
> communications. It's up to us to determine (hopefully with a good 
> helping of common sense) what is an emergency.
Actually that's pretty easy. See 97.403 and 97.405.

Matthew Kaufman




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Neat kit for switching repeater devices

2010-05-01 Thread Richard
It looks very professionally done. I use something similar, except that it
is glued to a heat sink fin.
 

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:29 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Neat kit for switching repeater devices


  

Larry,

My first use of this thermal switch was on a solar-powered Motorola R1225
UHF repeater at a commercial site. I simply drilled and tapped two 4-40
holes on a flat portion of the outside fin, and mounted the thermal switch
after applying some heat-conductive paste. I used a three-inch low-EMI
Panasonic fan blowing right on the fins. This is a 45-watt repeater set for
about 30 watts output. It went into service early in 2003, and has been
trouble-free ever since. I have attached a picture of what it looks like.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY

-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Horlick
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 11:56 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Neat kit for switching repeater devices

Eric,

This is good info. I have an immediate use for this. How have you actually
attached this 'stat to the fin?

Larry

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Eric Lemmon mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net> net
<mailto:wb6...@verizon. <mailto:wb6fly%40verizon.net> net> > wrote:



Scott,

I must agree that the CK1614 is an extremely versatile timer, with
many
potential uses. However, using it for fan control is not only
expensive,
but unnecessary.

A fan blowing on a transmitter heat sink does absolutely nothing
immediately
after the transmitter is keyed, since the heat sink is likely at
ambient
temperature. It takes a period of time for the heat sink to warm up,
so
operating the fan prematurely is a waste of energy- which may be an
issue
for a solar-powered repeater.

IMHO, the most efficient means of fan control is also the cheapest:
A
thermal switch. My first choice is a Cantherm #R2005015
normally-open
thermostat that closes at 50 degrees Celsius, about 122 degrees
Fahrenheit.
When attached to a heat-sink fin, it turns the fan on when
necessary, and
keeps it on until the heat sink cools below about 100 degrees F-
around body
temperature. This particular switch is available from Digi-Key for
about
$9, as Catalog Number 317-1094-ND.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


-Original Message-
From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of na4it
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 9:38 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Neat kit for switching repeater devices

I have started using this little kit
(http://www.electron
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm>
ickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm
<http://www.electron
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm>
ickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm> 
<http://www.electron
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm>
ickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm
<http://www.electron
<http://www.electronickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm>
ickits.com/kit/complete/elec/ck1614.htm> > ) for fan
control on repeaters. I can also be used as a PTT and Time Out
circuit,
along with a lot of other uses.

Download the pdf on that site and check it out.

Scott NA4IT








RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum

2010-05-30 Thread Richard
I've seen lots of groups die like that when the owner abandons it, but you
can go to Yahoogroups and do a search for one of similar interest.

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Kupferschmidt
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 10:45 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum


  


Hi to the group,
 
Does anyone either 1) belong to this group or 2) know what is happening to
this forum?  I've been a subscriber to this list for a while now but it
apparently got hacked by spam.
 
As of late, there are emails being sent by the owner, manager and moderator
stating that this group is going to be shut down and advises users to join
another group listed in the email, but no information is given about the new
group or how to join it.
 
TIA,
 
Don, KD9PT
 
 




RE: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum

2010-05-30 Thread Richard
He didn't make it clear, but I think he's referring to the
Motorola_Software_Users group he has in the subject line. Repeater-Builder
moderators do an excellent job of spam control.
 

Richard
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Plack
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:26 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group
forum


  


I'm not seeing any of these messages, so they apparently aren't coming
through the list.
 
73,
Paul, AE4KR
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: Don  <mailto:dkupf...@sbcglobal.net> Kupferschmidt 
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:45 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] OT: Motorola_Software_Users Yahoo group forum

  



Hi to the group,
 
Does anyone either 1) belong to this group or 2) know what is happening to
this forum?  I've been a subscriber to this list for a while now but it
apparently got hacked by spam.
 
As of late, there are emails being sent by the owner, manager and moderator
stating that this group is going to be shut down and advises users to join
another group listed in the email, but no information is given about the new
group or how to join it.
 
TIA,
 
Don, KD9PT
 
 






RE: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops

2010-07-13 Thread Richard
I'd tell him no, because it is illegal.
 

Richard, N7TGB
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of KD5SFA
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:24 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] question for commercial radio shops


  

If a person whom you knew and is involved in a number
of church youth camps activities asked you to program
FRS frequencies into a 4w UHF HT type accepted for LMR
would you do so ? It would only be for extended range
at camp.

My gut is to tell him no...

Sorry for the slightly off topic postI just need a 
little extra thought on the subject...

Bad thing is the person asking is the captain of my 
Volunteer FD.

73,
Jon






[Repeater-Builder] Re: Can a KLN 6210A vibrasender be substituted for a KLN 6209A vibrasponder?

2010-08-10 Thread Richard
Yesbut really NO. The sender will decode but the "pick-up" time is rather 
slow, causing missed first words, etc.
I had these experiences with several MSR2000's that the factory shipped with 
the reeds reversed! A 'sponder will work as a sender because once it is plugged 
in, it runs continuously.
Richard

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Brian J. Henry"  wrote:
>
> I have an MSR 2000 repeater that I want to change the PL frequency on.  Does 
> anyone know if a KLN 6210A vibrasender will work in place of a KLN 6209A 
> vibrasponder on the MSR 2000 PL board?
> 
> Curiously,
> 
> Brian Henry, WB6QED
>




RE: [Repeater-Builder] (unknown)

2010-08-10 Thread Richard
 
Who knows? When I see someone spamming a bunch of Yahoo groups, it can't be
good, and I definitely won't click on a link in the message.
 

Richard, N7TGB
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of La Rue Communications
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:47 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] (unknown)


  


Virus?
 
John Hymes
La Rue Communications
10 S. Aurora Street
Stockton, CA 95202
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Sorry everyone

2010-08-11 Thread Richard
Sorry to hear of that. I hope you can get your computers cleaned once and
for all.
 

Richard, N7TGB
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave E Stephens Sr
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:19 AM
To: kf6...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Sorry everyone


  



so i got on here this morning and found out that I had sent out a mass email
to everyone in my address book with a link to some website. Funny thing is
that when this email was sent, I was butt deep in the Applegate River with
my family (a location that doesn't even get cell coverage). 
 
this same thing happened to Liz (my better half) just a couple days ago and
now that it has happened to me, i have figures out where my account info
leaked from. 
 
I am very sorry to all of you. 
Dave Stephens
 





RE: [Repeater-Builder] unsubscribe

2010-08-13 Thread Richard
Well, I think it's funny.
 

Richard, N7TGB
www.n7tgb.net
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's
money
--Margaret Thatcher


 

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To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] unsubscribe


  



 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: the non religious "Jesus Nuts"

2010-08-20 Thread Richard
In my line of work we have a term called Jesus clip, which refers to
E-Clips. The phrase was coined when, in removing one, it would go "ping" and
fly off to parts unknown. So, the first words said by the Tech, were: "Jesus
where did that go?"
 
Richard, N7TGB
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves."
Edward R. Murrow 
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ka9qjg
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 4:36 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: the non religious "Jesus Nuts"


  


And I am the Nut  who added to this Post  Only because I did not know what
it Meant 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_nut

73 De Don KA9QJG 

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of skipp025
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 4:38 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: the non religious "Jesus Nuts"

  

Re: the non religious "Jesus Nuts"

> They were also called "Jesus nuts" by my coworkers, 

I thought a Jesus Nut was atop a helicopter holding things 
on or together. If it came off or failed, you normally had 
an expedited trip to Jesus if you believe in conventional 
religion. 

> probably named in a spontaneously outburst by some guy 
> who was about to need a tetanus shot.

... if you lost the Jesus Nut on your helicopter, I suspect 
you will quickly need more than a tetanus shot. 

> So much for drinking a tasty beverage while reading 
> some of these posts...excuse me while I clean up.

Ovaltine again? 

:-) 

s. 

ps: can ya tell it's a Friday already? 




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: DON'T BUY IT AND DON'T USE IT !!!------READ IT

2010-08-25 Thread Richard
So, why do you keep posting this?
 
 
Richard, N7TGB
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves."
Edward R. Murrow 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:12 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Fw: DON'T BUY IT AND DON'T USE IT
!!!--READ IT


  

Zazzle allows you to print custom stamps, anything you'd like to be
customized on a stamp you can have customized on a stamp basically as long
as it's not explicit or vulgur: 


If i wanted I could get wedding photos (which is what most people use the
service for), baby pictures, etc... 

It is in BY NO MEANS how connected to Government postage other than the fact
that it uses the digital USPS.com digital postage metering: the same digital
postage that businesses have been using if they send bulk mail through their
office for years and years, even before the internet got big.  now, it just
got more user friendly...

it's very sad that someone would believe this racist ploy, and I am offended
that something like this political in nature was sent to ham radio list...




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: DON'T BUY IT AND DON'T USE IT !!!------READ IT

2010-08-26 Thread Richard
Use your delete key and don't read them.
 
Richard, N7TGB
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves."
Edward R. Murrow 
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of N2PDQ
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:21 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: DON'T BUY IT AND DON'T USE IT
!!!--READ IT


  


This has nothing to do with repeater building, let alone ham radio. I didn't
subscribe to this group to read this crap. Where are the moderators, they
just need to delete this.

73

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Doug
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:14 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Fw: DON'T BUY IT AND DON'T USE IT
!!!--READ IT

  



--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com> , Walter Treftz 
wrote: After living with Muslims (held calls in the CN, JY and A43
countries) as a whole, I found that they're as moderate (or maybe more so)
than what I've been seeing on the news lately from this side of the
pond.N4GL

Amen to That!! My 1st cousin in Atlanta Georgia is a Muslim, my niece in
Whiteplains NY is a Muslim and here in Tucson Arizona one of my closes
buddy's is a Muslim. I am a Baptist and never had any issues with any other
religion up to my senior years [age 67] in this country. 

Those stamps that are talked about, I have a whole sheet of them and WILL
use them! I have a sister in Memphis Tennessee who is a retired postal
worker after 20+ years. She finds it so narrow minded and ignorant that some
Americans think that the Islamic religion is filled with hatred. Its NOT the
religion but some of the people in every religion on this planet! Please
folks...let's move on to Amateur Radio discussion on this group! My .03 for
this dayW7FDF




[Repeater-Builder] Re: MOTAROLA - M2170

2010-08-27 Thread Richard
The 5184621K70 cross references to 5184320A13. As a generic, its an LM-741 
op-amp.

--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "ac6vj"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Hi Gang,
> 
> I am looking for a Motorola M2170 8 pin DIP IC or a cross reference for it. 
> It is used in a Mitrek transmit power control circuit.
> 
> Gregory AC6VJ
>




[Repeater-Builder] Re: Msf5000 Low Power alarms

2010-09-03 Thread Richard


I'm not quite sure I understand your question.
The procedure puts it into normal condition. Nothing further to do. 

For a conventional MSF5000 (NON-trunking) that is, a radio always
without the RF sensor installed, the values 00 and FF are what is
loaded at factory; e.g. normal.
 
The problem usually happens when someone replaces a CLB SCB(analog)
board with CXB SSCB that came from a 800 trunking radio. It will
contain the setpoint values from its previous "home".
They need to be reset to FACTORY default for CONVENTIONAL stations.

Non-trunking=no RF sensor = Factory setpoint value of 00,FF.


--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, MCH  wrote:
>
> How do you set it back to normal?
> 
> Joe M.
> 
> Richard Arnold wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > There is an RSS software solution ("bitbang") to get rid of the alarms.
> > Connect the RIB to the operating MSF.
> >  From the main menu hit ALT-F5. A command line bar will appear telling 
> > you to enter an IPCB command. Enter the following: (WITHOUT the " " quotes)
> > 
> >   "/1e1607160800FF"
> > 
> > it is CASE sensitive. This sets the FWD/REV settings to zero and FF 
> > (infinity)
> > I've done it many times, and it works just fine!
> > 
> > 
> > --- On *Sun, 8/29/10, jimmylpowell //* wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: jimmylpowell 
> > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Msf5000 Low Power alarms
> > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 12:36 PM
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I originally posted this on the MSF5000 board but got no response. I
> > thought I would broaden my search.
> > 
> > Does anyone know a way to get a non trunking MSF with out an internal
> > power
> > sensor to stop giving the 7 beeps? I have tried going back to a default
> > codeplug
> > and starting from scratch. This did not work. It seems that once the bit
> > is
> > set it won't go away. I'm sure that it happened when someone went into
> > the
> > screen to adjust the alarms. I know this is a common problem and they
> > tell you
> > not to do it.
> > 
> > I have the alarms disabled over the air, but it annoys me on the local
> > audio. I
> > would like to enable the over the air alarms, but I can't until I can
> > clear this
> > one.
> > 
> > My MSF has version 4.07 SSCB and 5.04 TTRC.
> > 
> > Maybe there's some bit banging that can be done.
> > 
> > Jimmy, K5JCT
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Internal Virus Database is out of date.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> > Version: 9.0.783 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2746 - Release Date: 03/14/10 
> > 03:33:00
> >
>




RE: [Repeater-Builder] Yaesu Charger

2007-11-03 Thread Richard
I looked through the service manual for the VX-7R on the off chance that it
would have the charger schematic, but there was no mention of it.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:19 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Yaesu Charger



Looking for the schematic for a Yaesu /Vertex CD15A.

Charger is used with the Yaesu/Vertex VX-7R

I can't seem to find any information anywhere.

Can anyone help

Ralph, W7HSG



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Bidding to Acquire Control ofVertex Standard (Yaesu)

2007-11-05 Thread Richard
Another reason is that the larger company wants the technology that the
smaller company possesses
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Bargmann
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:47 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Bidding to Acquire Control ofVertex
Standard (Yaesu)



* 
Whenever a large company aquires a smaller company they are usually
after one of two things, aquiring a presence in an established market,
or squashing competition.

At least right now I have all the Yaesu gear I need, I just hope it
keeps working.

73, de Nate >>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola/Yaesu

2007-11-06 Thread Richard
Somebody already posted this 14 hours ago.
 
Richard, N7TGB

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Reese
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:53 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola/Yaesu




Received this from a friend that works for Motorola.
 
Motorola USA has announced its intention to launch a tender offer to
acquire a controlling interest in Vertex Standard Co, Ltd. Vertex
Standard is the parent company of Yaesu. Motorola will own 80
percent of Vertex Standard; Tokogiken, a privately held Japanese
company, controlled by current president and CEO of Vertex Standard
Jun Hasegawa, will retain 20 percent, forming a joint venture. The
total purchase price for 80 percent of the outstanding shares on a
fully diluted basis will be approximately US $108 million.

R. D. Reese
WA8DBW

 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-09 Thread Richard
I've never heard of Eproms having a finite lifetime, although I will readily
admit to not being completely knowledgeable of them. There may be
differences in quality, the cheaper ones are simply failing, or maybe the
Eprom wasn't burned properly.
 
An Eprom's principal enemy is static electricity. After being exposed to it,
the damage may be immediately apparent, or it may take days, weeks or years
before manifesting itself. This is the voice of experience, but that is
another story...
 
On the other hand, your report of it starting to work properly when you
power cycled it indicates to me that you had a possible data corruption in
RAM that was cleared out by rebooting. That is very common with
microprocessor based equipment.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:39 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem



Bryon,

Thanks for the response. I hadn't thought about EEPROMS having a finite
lifetime- but it sounds reasonable. This RC-96 controller has been in
service for just over 16 years.

I should have mentioned that, once I disconnected the power to the RC-96 and
reconnected it about 20 seconds later, it responded with the expected
"Controller Ready" announcement. It seemed to be behaving well at that
point, but I took it back to the shop for "forensic investigation" anyway,
rather than walk away thinking everything was okay.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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[mailto:Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryon Jeffers KØBSJ
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:22 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

Eric,

Eproms are only good for so long.. One or more is starting to lose its 
stored/burned bits. I have not had this happen to an ACC controller but 
other older eprom devices. The last item had a Eprom about ten years old 
in it when it started to go crazy...

Hope this helps!

Bryon KØBSJ

Eric Lemmon wrote:
> One of the repeaters I maintain has been working perfectly for almost a
year
> since its last checkup. It is a 6m repeater that has a link to several
> other 6m repeaters, and is controlled by an ACC RC-96 controller. It is
> powered from a very large commercial UPS that ensures no-break power.
>
> One evening, the controller went berserk, for no apparent reason. It
> started transmitting a string of Morse characters on both the primary and
> secondary ports: "dit dah dit ... dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah
> ..." for about two minutes. It would then be quiet on both ports for about
> 30 seconds, and would then repeat. During the brief silent periods, the
> repeater would operate as a repeater, but the Morse string muted any other
> audio, once it began. The controller would not respond to my DTMF commands
> on either the primary or secondary ports. To make matters worse, the
> telephone line that gives me backup control to knock down the repeater was
> dead at the hilltop end! I had to make a hasty trip to the mountaintop
site
> to take the beast off the air.
>
> As a result of this experience, I am adding a dedicated UHF control link
to
> give me positive control of the repeater.
>
> Has anyone else had a similar problem with the RC-96 controller? Note that
> there is no lithium or similar memory battery inside the box that might go
> bad. Oddball malfunctions like this can add more gray hairs than I want!
> Any ideas, case histories, or suggestions will be appreciated.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-09 Thread Richard
I knew it, it's those space aliens!
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith McQueen
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:55 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem




RAM memory is not 100% especially as it ages.  Stray gamma rays can corrupt
RAM.  It's rare here deep in the atmosphere, but it does happen.  Satellites
have to use hardened RAM for this reason (or as in the case of the HAM
microsats, special software routines that continually watch for and correct
errors in the RAM memory).  It is also possible for RF to affect
microprocessor circuitry.  Again, if properly constructed and bypassed, this
is rare.  In older circuitry, the bypass capacitors that shunt noise to
ground in computer circuitry, age and lose their efficacy.   I'd say if
there were no problems before and a reset seems to fix it, give the poor old
beast another chance.  If the problems re-occur, start looking for aged
caps, aged EPROMS etc.
 
 
Keith McQueen
801-224-9460
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Lemmon
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 8:39 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem



Bryon,

Thanks for the response. I hadn't thought about EEPROMS having a finite
lifetime- but it sounds reasonable. This RC-96 controller has been in
service for just over 16 years.

I should have mentioned that, once I disconnected the power to the RC-96 and
reconnected it about 20 seconds later, it responded with the expected
"Controller Ready" announcement. It seemed to be behaving well at that
point, but I took it back to the shop for "forensic investigation" anyway,
rather than walk away thinking everything was okay.

73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY


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From: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
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yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryon Jeffers KØBSJ
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 7:22 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

Eric,

Eproms are only good for so long.. One or more is starting to lose its 
stored/burned bits. I have not had this happen to an ACC controller but 
other older eprom devices. The last item had a Eprom about ten years old 
in it when it started to go crazy...

Hope this helps!

Bryon KØBSJ

Eric Lemmon wrote:
> One of the repeaters I maintain has been working perfectly for almost a
year
> since its last checkup. It is a 6m repeater that has a link to several
> other 6m repeaters, and is controlled by an ACC RC-96 controller. It is
> powered from a very large commercial UPS that ensures no-break power.
>
> One evening, the controller went berserk, for no apparent reason. It
> started transmitting a string of Morse characters on both the primary and
> secondary ports: "dit dah dit ... dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dah
> ..." for about two minutes. It would then be quiet on both ports for about
> 30 seconds, and would then repeat. During the brief silent periods, the
> repeater would operate as a repeater, but the Morse string muted any other
> audio, once it began. The controller would not respond to my DTMF commands
> on either the primary or secondary ports. To make matters worse, the
> telephone line that gives me backup control to knock down the repeater was
> dead at the hilltop end! I had to make a hasty trip to the mountaintop
site
> to take the beast off the air.
>
> As a result of this experience, I am adding a dedicated UHF control link
to
> give me positive control of the repeater.
>
> Has anyone else had a similar problem with the RC-96 controller? Note that
> there is no lithium or similar memory battery inside the box that might go
> bad. Oddball malfunctions like this can add more gray hairs than I want!
> Any ideas, case histories, or suggestions will be appreciated.
>
> 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 



 


RE: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem

2007-11-11 Thread Richard
The shelf life is typically ten years.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 12:29 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem



I don't have my Dallas Semi book handy, but if I remember correctly 
the "10 years"
spec was 10 unpowered years - if the Smartwatch was in a device that 
was powered
up the battery was not being drained. But you still had to factor in 
the shelf life of the
internal coin cell.

At 03:44 AM 11/10/07, you wrote:
>Eric,
>
>As Kevin said if your 96 has one of the Dallas Smartwatch the 
>battery in some of them had a life of 10 years. It was basically 
>the shelf life of the battery.
>
>Most of the Smartwatch's I've seen used a RAM as the memory rather 
>than a EPROM. The battery maintained the memory when power was 
>lost. The battery could power and maintain memory for the life of 
>the battery which again was spec'd for 10 years although most often 
>lasted 12-14 years. Kinda gets into the area of some rigs having 
>their OS in battery backed RAM.
>
>The Smartwatch was made by Dallas Semiconductor.
>
>73, ron, n9ee/r
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Kevin Berlen, K9HX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:k9hx%40arrl.net> >
> >Date: 2007/11/10 Sat AM 02:42:39 CST
> >To: Repeater-Builder@ <mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] RC-96 Controller Problem
>
> >
> >What version of software is in your controller? With rev 5 of 
> thesoftware, a Dallas
> >Smartwatch was added to the RC-96 to provide a real-time clock. As 
> Irecall, the
> >smartwatch occupied one of the eprom sockets, and the affected 
> eprom wasplugged
> >into a socket on top of the device. If yours has the smartwatch, 
> it maybe the culprit. 73.
> >
> >Kevin, K9HX
> >
> >
> >At 10:10 PM 11/9/2007, you wrote:
> >
> >One of the repeaters I maintainhas been working perfectly for almost a
year
> >since its last checkup. It is a 6m repeater that has a link toseveral
> >other 6m repeaters, and is controlled by an ACC RC-96 controller. Itis
> >powered from a very large commercial UPS that ensures no-breakpower.
> >
> >One evening, the controller went berserk, for no apparent reason. It
> >started transmitting a string of Morse characters on both the primaryand
> >secondary ports: "dit dah dit ... dah dah dah dah dah dah dah dahdah dah
> >..." for about two minutes. It would then be quiet on both ports forabout
> >30 seconds, and would then repeat. During the brief silent periods,the
> >repeater would operate as a repeater, but the Morse string muted anyother
> >audio, once it began. The controller would not respond to my DTMFcommands
> >on either the primary or secondary ports. To make matters worse, the
> >telephone line that gives me backup control to knock down the repeaterwas
> >dead at the hilltop end! I had to make a hasty trip to the
mountaintopsite
> >to take the beast off the air.
> >
> >As a result of this experience, I am adding a dedicated UHF control
linkto
> >give me positive control of the repeater.
> >
> >Has anyone else had a similar problem with the RC-96 controller? Notethat
> >there is no lithium or similar memory battery inside the box that mightgo
> >bad. Oddball malfunctions like this can add more gray hairs than Iwant!
> >Any ideas, case histories, or suggestions will be appreciated.
> >
> >73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY
> >
> >
> >
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>Ron Wright, N9EE
>727-376-6575
>MICRO COMPUTER CONCEPTS
>Owner 146.64 repeater Tampa Bay, FL
>No tone, all are welcome.
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage

2007-11-21 Thread Richard
Yep... I've never done that on mine, but I'm also running an old version.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:55 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wide Area Coverage




On Nov 21, 2007, at 12:03 AM, JOHN MACKEY wrote:

> The sysops are probably not registering their information. That is 
> an option
> in echolink.

EchoIRLP node operators also have to go into the configuration files 
and set up AVRS support in tbd for that web page to work to find their 
EchoIRLP nodes.

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nate%40natetech.com> com



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Usage of Linked Repeater Systems vs. Stand Alone Repeaters

2007-11-21 Thread Richard
Here it is mostly the opposite. People will use a club owned, linked, high
level, wide coverage system before using a low level machine.  Of the 2m low
level machines, only one or two see limited use. There are many UHF machines
in the area, but they see almost no use.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:52 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Usage of Linked Repeater Systems vs. Stand
Alone Repeaters




On Nov 21, 2007, at 8:59 AM, Tony L. wrote:

> We're puzzled as to why people seem to shy away from most, but not 
> all,
> of the very wide coverage area systems. The busiest repeaters in our
> area seem to be the "no frills" stand alones. Are voice IDs, courtesy
> tones, and coverage footprints beyond a 25-mile radius just more than
> people can handle nowadays?

It's an interesting question you pose.

Here in Colorado, the Colorado Connection (www.colcon.org) does a 
great job maintaining a state-wide VHF linked system. People don't 
exactly "shy away" from it, but if there's a local standalone repeater 
they'll often choose that before the linked system. When they need 
it, they know its there -- would be the mentality I would ascribe to it.

My club (well, the one I found myself President of anyway!), the 
Colorado Repeater Association (www.w0cra.org - man I need to go update 
the website!) has a smaller-footprint linked VHF system for the Front 
Range with three sites, and it gets quite a bit of use -- but I 
generally think that's because of two things:

- We have a LOT of nets from other groups... Colorado QRP club, 
Colorado YL's, Edge of Space Sciences (EOSS), Colorado Statewide RACES 
Net, our own club Net, Rocky Mountain Monitoring Net, and a local ARES 
Net. This gives people a connection to others and a reason to be 
there -- on certain nights. I wouldn't say the folks in all those 
groups always monitor the system, however. They show up for their 
social group, and probably have the repeater in a memory channel and/ 
or even in a scanner... but many of the folks in those organizations 
have other clubs and repeaters they "go home" to, after Nets.

- At all other times, our club "markets" itself as a "ragchew" club. 
People are welcome to chat about whatever they like as long as they 
keep it clean and generally family-oriented.

- We also have plenty of toys. IRLP, EchoLink, Autopatch... about the 
only thing we haven't done is remote-base type equipment. All the 
sites have access to the toys in some fashion or another, even if not 
on all bands/repeaters.

We also have a number of standalone repeaters, at the same sites -- 
and two standalone repeaters at a very high site. The VHF high-site 
standalone repeater is constantly in use. The UHF high-site repeater 
gets a decent amount of use, but is quieter.

The two UHF's at the lower sites get almost no use at all, other than 
folks making calls for family members -- they've become the "quiet 
calling" repeaters, I guess. I lament that they get little use, since 
they work so well -- but they aren't a maintenance headache, and 
generally just keep running and running -- so I guess they'll be there 
for while.

Our 220 repeater is part of the VHF linked system, or it'd get little 
use. There's about four people who have rigs and use it. Other clubs 
in the area have excellent 220 repeaters that are virtually unused. 
It was installed back when Novices had voice privs on 220, and we 
could full-time link it so Novices could talk to their Tech, General, 
Advanced (remember those?) and Extra friends.

UHF around here is full of privately owned-operated machines scattered 
in-between the club systems, and after a while you learn that the 
owner(s) and a few friends always monitor certain systems, even if 
they're listening to something else on VHF. Most have coverage the 
equals or rivals the club systems, many on the same sites.

So - it's a mix. We're the only club with a multi-site linked system 
that I know of, besides the Statewide system. Right now, listening to 
the scanner, there's one of our elderly ham "characters" talking to 
one of our newer female members. He's always listening to the VHF 
linked system, and on there quite a bit between nets and other 
events. They've been talking on the Denver repeater for about an 
hour, and I've heard one or two other calls on the VHF high-site 
standalone today, but no traffic on the UHF's... pretty quiet for a 
day before a holiday. It'll pick up during drive-time, probably. The 
high-site UHF just popped up with a couple of our more active hams who 
were obviously both out and about, looking to m

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Usage of Linked Repeater Systems vs. Stand Alone Repeaters

2007-11-22 Thread Richard
Well, yeah our mountains sure can't compete with yours.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 9:45 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Usage of Linked Repeater Systems vs. Stand
Alone Repeaters




On Nov 21, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Richard wrote:

> Here it is mostly the opposite. People will use a club owned, 
> linked, high level, wide coverage system before using a low level 
> machine. Of the 2m low level machines, only one or two see limited 
> use. There are many UHF machines in the area, but they see almost no 
> use.
>

Yeah, I should clarify a bit. Our "mid-level" machines are at around 
4,000' HAAT. Those sites are where the VHF linked system lives.

The "high-site" is at 5,440' HAAT or so.

So they're all "wide-area coverage" compared to out in the flatlands...

--
Nate Duehr, WY0X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:nate%40natetech.com> com



 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions): NTIA propaganda

2008-01-06 Thread Richard
I can't picture that ever happening; I understand it will allow each station
to broadcast multiple programs, should they choose to.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MCH
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 12:43 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Off Topic (but with on topic questions):
NTIA propaganda



I have yet to see any station share their DTV channel with another
station. (which would save spectrum)

So, there may be more content, but station WXYZ will still use the full
6 MHz. If my local area is any indication, they will simply add channels
such as full time traffic and WX. (like you need 6 channels of WX
forecasts)

I've still seen nothing to tie the DTV in with giving PS more spectrum.

Joe M.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:no6b%40no6b.com>  wrote:
> 
> At 1/5/2008 22:02, you wrote:
> 
> >Has anyone else here seen the bull put out by NTIA on
> ><https://www. <https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx>
dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx>https://www. <https://www.dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx>
dtv2009.gov/FAQ.aspx
> >=
> >1. What is the digital television transition?
> 
> >An analog allocation is 6 MHz. A digital allocation is 6 MHz.
> >How is digital saving spectrum?
> >
> >As there are some broadcast types here, maybe someone can explain the
> >technology used where X analog stations using 6 MHz each will be more
> >efficient by the same number of stations using 6 MHz each. Is this that
> >new math they are using?
> 
> While a DTV signal uses the same bandwidth, several "channels" can be
> carried on one signal (I think they used to call this a channel "bouquet",
> don't know if the term is still in use). So we will end up with the same
> amount of spectrum used for TV but with many more channels.
> 
> Bob NO6B
> 
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 


 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: IFR Aeroflex 1200

2008-02-14 Thread Richard
I have it:

http://www.download.n7tgb.net/Misc/IFR1200S_OM.pdf (8 meg file)
 
and the maintenance manual...
http://www.download.n7tgb.net/Misc/IFR_1200SA.pdf (40 meg file)

Richard
www.n7tgb.net


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cort Buffington
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:09 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: IFR Aeroflex 1200

I JUST GOT a 1200S with a late serial number used from a two-way shop  
yesterday. Most things I've figured out, but the tracking generator  
eludes me. Anyone have an electronic copy of the operations manual for  
one of these dudes?

On Feb 13, 2008, at 5:49 PM, b_totten wrote:

> Found this unit for a reasonable price:
>
> http://www.teknetelectronics.com/Search.asp?p_ID=11382&pDo=DETAIL
>
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Keith, KB7M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
> >
> > These are desireable units, and sell regularly on eBay. The price  
> will
> > depend on which sub-model it is ('S', Super-S etc.) and on which
> options it
> > includes. Even basic models often go for well over $2K. Fully  
> optioned
> > Super-S models sometimes top $4-5K. There are also dealers that  
> buy and
> > sell these, but they will offer you a heavily discounted price (they
> are in
> > the business to make a profit after all).
> >
> > Just offering it here may likely result in offers for a fair price.
> > Sorry to hear of the passing of your dad.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > --
> > Keith McQueen
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 801-224-9460
> >
> > On Feb 12, 2008 10:45 AM, Paul Robichaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > My dad, K5EYP, was an active member of repeater-builders. He
> bought an
> > > IFR/Aeroflex 1200
> > > to use in his repeater building; I sent it out to be factory
> calibrated in
> > > April 2007. Sadly, Dad
> > > is now SK; he died in a motorcycle accident in August. Now my mom
> has me
> > > cleaning up his
> > > shack.
> > >
> > > I know this is a specialized and expensive piece of equipment.
> None of the
> > > family has any use
> > > for it. I'd like to sell it, so I welcome advice on a) fair
> pricing and b)
> > > the most likely place(s) to
> > > find a buyer.
> > >
> > > 73 de KG4RWS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> 





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted: IFR-1500S Maintenance Manual

2008-02-20 Thread Richard
Sometimes .pdf copies of IFR manuals are listed on eBay; I've gotten a
couple from there.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 5:38 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted: IFR-1500S Maintenance Manual



Joe wrote:
> Anyone have this in PDF that they would like to share? I'd like to have 
> it before I tear into my 1500.
> 
> Thanks, Joe, K1ike

Someone shared with me off-list that they had a paper version and would 
consider sending it to someone for getting it scanned, but I had to 
(sadly) reply that I simply didn't have time to do it here...

Maybe someone who's done a bunch and has a liking for that sort of 
thing, or a few thousand bucks in their Kinko's account could "Get 'er 
Done!"...

I assume if done professionally, it won't be cheap. And if done by 
someone in their spare time, it'll take too long. (Those books aren't 
small.)

Nate


 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted: IFR-1500S Maintenance Manual

2008-02-21 Thread Richard
Yep, I understand. On the other hand, I'm not begrudging someone a few bucks
for a manual that isn't readily available elsewhere. The ones I've purchased
are on my website for download; some I've donated to Repeater-Builder. 
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morris WA6ILQ
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:25 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted: IFR-1500S Maintenance Manual



And it really annoys me to see the ones that are free for download 
from www.repeater- <http://www.repeater-builder.com/> builder.com being sold
there.

If anybody has other useful PDFs - like of the HP8640 sign gen, or 
of the other IFRs, or of the Com120, etc. feel free to send them in 
to donations //at// repeater-builder //dot// com

At 09:35 PM 02/20/08, you wrote:



Sometimes .pdf copies of IFR manuals are listed on eBay; I've gotten a
couple from there.
 
Richard
www.n7tgb.net <http://www.n7tgb.net/> 
 


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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [
<mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 5:38 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wanted: IFR-1500S Maintenance Manual

Joe wrote:
> Anyone have this in PDF that they would like to share? I'd like to have 
> it before I tear into my 1500.
> 
> Thanks, Joe, K1ike

Someone shared with me off-list that they had a paper version and would 
consider sending it to someone for getting it scanned, but I had to 
(sadly) reply that I simply didn't have time to do it here...

Maybe someone who's done a bunch and has a liking for that sort of 
thing, or a few thousand bucks in their Kinko's account could "Get 'er 
Done!"...

I assume if done professionally, it won't be cheap. And if done by 
someone in their spare time, it'll take too long. (Those books aren't 
small.)

Nate


 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] The emails we get at repeater-builder....

2008-02-29 Thread Richard
You constantly see that on all kinds of discussion lists. Rather than read
the manual, search the message archive, or use Google, they'll just fire off
a message with a stupid question that was asked just days earlier.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:01 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] The emails we get at repeater-builder



I agree with Mike. As owner of Repeater-Builder, (the company) I get more 
than my fair share of these types of e-mail myself. Sometimes it makes for a

good chuckle, but more often it just makes me sad to think of all the 
information we provide; and yet some people are too lazy to read and digest 
it on their own.

Oh Well..

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Morris WA6ILQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:wa6ilq%40arrl.net> net>
To: mailto:Repeater-Builder%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:13 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] The emails we get at repeater-builder

> The authors and webmasters at repeater-builder
> get some STRANGE emails...
>
> It seems that way too many people skim an article
> and then immediately email the author asking him
> to do all the work, even when all the info is in the
> article.
>
> Then there are those that don't even read the articles.
>
> Other times we just get weird emails like this one:
>
> > The repeater at work has a problem hearing the
> > walkie talkies (it's at a shopping mall). The antenna
> > cable was damaged and the guys at Radio Shack
> > gave us some new stuff so I know it's good. The unit
> > says Motorola M100 and GM300 on the front.
> > Will a preamp help? Is this one any good?
> >
> <http://www.alltroni
<http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/25A001/35/RF%2DPreamplifier%2DModule
> cs.com/cgi-bin/item/25A001/35/RF%2DPreamplifier%2DModule>
>
> Sigh. I answered back and told them to get with a
> good local 2-way shop, that it was impossible to diagnose
> from across the country.
>
> (click on the link and look at it - it's obviously intended for
> a scanner. The $2 suggests that there probably isn't
> much there...)
>
> Mike WA6ILQ
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>
>
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] The emails we get at repeater-builder....

2008-02-29 Thread Richard
It was, but it's also a common problem on discussion lists, so it was a
natural progression.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dexter McIntyre W4DEX
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 10:39 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] The emails we get at repeater-builder



Wasn't the original post on this subject about the emails sent directly 
to the repeater-builder webmaster and owners and not about the post that 
are made to the email reflector? If so I believe this discussion has 
got off course.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] The emails we get at repeater-builder....

2008-03-01 Thread Richard
I made some comments on this subject in another email, and they weren't
aimed at anyone who falls in the "baseball card license" category, but
towards those who won't take the time to do a little preliminary research
before asking a question. My comments weren't even aimed specifically
towards this group, but others, especially those that are for a specific
model of radio. This group is comprised of (in my opinion) the greatest
collection of talent and expertise that you'd find most anywhere, and a lot
can be learned by just reading the messages. My knowledge of repeaters is
very limited so I seldom post here, but I do read most of the messages.
 
On other groups, I've seen many questions posed by people who have obviously
never opened the manual. So, to avoid falling into the "baseball card"
category, just:
 
1. Read the manual!
2. Search the message base! (hint: you can see 98% of all questions asked by
going back only two to three weeks)
3. Use Google!
 
Then if you still can't find the answer, by all means ask!
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cicirello
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 9:43 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] The emails we get at repeater-builder




Scott,

I for one will be reluctant to ask on line again in fear of falling into the
baseball card category licensee. My expertise is in the law and I understand
that everyone don't know how to find the massive information and I agree
some are lazy, me included sometimes. I didn't know this was a problem, so I
for one will be very cautious in the future. I must say I am a little
disappointed with the remarks.

73 JIM   KA2AJH  Wellsville NY

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:29 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] The emails we get at repeater-builder

With all of the excellent info and resources, this is without a doubt the
very best available. You are correct. It points up the "let the other guy do
it syndrome" I always thought one had to have a bit of technical knowledge
to get a license. I'm beginning to wonder if they come with baseball cards.
Google alone will produce enough tech info to help educate most anyone. I
only wish this resource had been there when I was growing up. In those times
one had to read a book and seek mentoring on questions. 


Scott Zimmerman wrote: 

I agree with Mike. As owner of Repeater-Builder, (the company) I get more 
than my fair share of these types of e-mail myself. Sometimes it makes for a

good chuckle, but more often it just makes me sad to think of all the 
information we provide; and yet some people are too lazy to read and digest 
it on their own.
 
Oh Well..
 
Scott
 
Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Rd
Boswell, PA 15531
 
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Morris WA6ILQ"  <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:  <mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:13 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] The emails we get at repeater-builder
 
 
  

The authors and webmasters at repeater-builder
get some STRANGE emails...
 
It seems that way too many people skim an article
and then immediately email the author asking him
to do all the work, even when all the info is in the
article.
 
Then there are those that don't even read the articles.
 
Other times we just get weird emails  like this one:
 


The repeater at work has a problem hearing the
walkie talkies (it's at a shopping mall). The antenna
cable was damaged and the guys at Radio Shack
gave us some new stuff so I know it's good. The unit
says Motorola M100 and GM300 on the front.
Will a preamp help?   Is this one any good?
 
  

 
<http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/25A001/35/RF%2DPreamplifier%2DModule
>
<http://www.alltronics.com/cgi-bin/item/25A001/35/RF%2DPreamplifier%2DModule
>
 
Sigh.  I answered back and told them to get with a
good local 2-way shop, that it was impossible to diagnose
from across the country.
 
(click on the link and look at it - it's obviously intended for
a scanner.  The $2 suggests that there probably isn't
much there...)
 
Mike WA6ILQ
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry

2008-04-21 Thread Richard
Did you check batlabs.com?
 
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob M.
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 11:52 AM
To: repeater-builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] RIB-less cable circuitry



Does anybody know of schematics for RIB-less cables?
I'm trying to find out which pin(s) they use to get
power from the serial port to operate the circuitry
built into the DB9 connector body.

I've got a couple that seem to be dead on two
computers but run fine on another one and I suspect
some very slight differences in the serial port
configurations when the machines are booted up.

If you have links for such schematics, just post those
rather than the entire image which won't make it
through Yahoo's e-mail system.

Thanks.

Bob M.

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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Richard
It is true, and it is in the FCC rules.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios




Are you sure about that?  They were actually selling them at one
point.  I think Radio Shack had one.  

I would like to see where it says you can't do it.  I will read again
but I didn't see it written anywhere.  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sgreact47
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

"mung_bungholio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. 

"store and forward" repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS.

ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance.
They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering .

Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005%
tolerance.

 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Richard
I sent this before I was finished. The part about the frequency
tolerance is true, but I don't know about store-and-forward.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:05 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios




It is true, and it is in the FCC rules.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios




Are you sure about that?  They were actually selling them at one
point.  I think Radio Shack had one.  

I would like to see where it says you can't do it.  I will read again
but I didn't see it written anywhere.  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sgreact47
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

"mung_bungholio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. 

"store and forward" repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS.

ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance.
They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering .

Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005%
tolerance.

 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

2008-05-27 Thread Richard
Yes I reread the message and realized that.
 
As I understand it, it would be a base station.
 
Richard
 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net
 

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:28 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios




I am not questioning the frequency tolerance rules.  However a
question there does come up.  Is a mobile that is hooked up to my 75'
tower a mobile or a base station?  I can still move the radio any time
I want.

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:11 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

I sent this before I was finished. The part about the frequency
tolerance is true, but I don't know about store-and-forward.

Richard

 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:05 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

It is true, and it is in the FCC rules.

Richard

 <http://www.n7tgb.net/> www.n7tgb.net

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From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mung Bungholio
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 4:17 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

Are you sure about that?  They were actually selling them at one
point.  I think Radio Shack had one.  

I would like to see where it says you can't do it.  I will read again
but I didn't see it written anywhere.  

From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sgreact47
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 6:48 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GMRS Radios

"mung_bungholio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I am thinking about doing a store and forward repeater for GMRS. 

"store and forward" repeater(s) are forbidden on GMRS.

ALL repeaters and base stations must meet .002% frequency tolerance.
They also must meet the later transmitter audio filtering .

Small base stations, 5watts or less, and mobiles must meet the .005%
tolerance.

 


RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Astron Supply Help

2004-09-03 Thread Richard
Radio Shack sells it.
Richard, N7TGB

-Original Message-
From: Mike WA6ILQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 12:07 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Astron Supply Help


At 08:40 AM 9/2/04, Tedd Doda, VE3TJD wrote:

>On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 11:35:29 -0400, Jim B. wrote:
>
> >umm-heat sink "grease" (thermal compound) is not clear.
>
>It can be. The common stuff is white, but I've seen
>the clear variation on lots of industrial equipment
>(DC-DC motor controllers for example) used for their
>FET's and SCR's.

Do you, by chance, have a manufacturer's name?
product info (i.e. product name, part number)?
Is one known to work better then the other?

Mike WA6ILQ 





 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Cavity filters from aluminium beer barrels ?

2004-09-11 Thread Richard
I'm sure you'll get plenty of volunteers to help empty 'em!

Richard, N7TGB



-Original Message-
From: dave_g7uzn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 2:19 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Cavity filters from aluminium beer barrels ?


Hi, Has anyone used beer barrels to make cavity filters ?
Any info/designs would be useful.Cheers Dave






 
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Triple Posts?? INFO

2004-10-02 Thread Richard

Neither of those applied to me either, but I was affected in one group. It
has since cleared up.

Richard, N7TGB




-Original Message-
From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:21 AM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Triple Posts?? INFO


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:54:40 -0700 Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>   Anyone else on this list getting triple posts?
>
>
> Only a 'select few'  -- it's been happening for about a week,
> across many Y!groups, and appears to affect folks who've newly-subscribed
> -or- made address changes.  Their info has been duplicated in the member
> lists
>

Well, neither of those applies to me, so that blows that...

> So far, attempts to remove "extra" address listings have resulted in the
> removal of "all" entries for that member.
> It's a Yahoo thing, and List Owners have NO real control --  Pending a
> fix, the best opinions offered elsewhere is to ride it out...
>
Yeah, I figured that. They really are pretty incompetant. I keep getting
put into 'bounce' status for no reason. Sent them many emails, each one
nastier than the last, to no avail.

--
Jim Barbour
WD8CHL






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RE: [Repeater-Builder] radial tire static?

2004-11-19 Thread Richard

Awww... you took all the fun out of it - I was going to try it and see if it
works!

Richard ,N7TGB



-Original Message-
From: NØATH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:58 PM
To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] radial tire static?





Daron J. Wilson wrote:

Helium - we use this on almost every trip up to the repeater site.  We
find that we can load the truck down very heavily at sea level, and it
is often all we can do to keep it on the ground once we get up to about
6,000 feet.  It is a tremendous mileage booster, though we lost the
first truck when we unloaded at the repeater site and returned to find
the empty truck gone.  Perhaps it was stolen.


Actually helium is not always lighter than air. Am empty helium tank
trailer and tractor weighs about 62,000 pounds.
The same unit filled to capacity weighs about 62,800 pounds. By just
driving the vehicle you cannot tell if you are
 loaded or empty.

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