Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client
Please set your mail client to text only. HTML mail is discarded without reading. Too risky in todays' virus atmosphere. Chuck Lt. Commander Data--your plastic pal who's fun to be with ! On Tue, 15 May 2001 17:53:42 -, G. T. four_10_g...@hotmail.com wrote: To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client From: G. T. four_10_g...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:53:42 - -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: CSFlesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached you your email
This is one of those little advantages to HTML email. The virus can be imbeded right into it so that no attachment is necessary. This is a good argument for plain text email which at least stops one possible source of virus transfer. Jim Wright -Original Message- From: s...@a2r.org [mailto:s...@a2r.org] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSre: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached you your email Hello, As you already know, this email had a virus attached. The dangerous thing about it is that it kicked-in as soon as I opened the message. It wasn't included as an attachment - which I NEVER open. That is scary, as the next one might not be as easy to get rid of. Steve Radcliff ** Original Subject: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria ** Original Sender: A.V.R.A colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com ** Original Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:07:40 -0400 (EDT) ** Original Message follows... Thank you for reporting your own personal experience, Stephen. I am most glad your son recovered! PS: You have the Kak virus - Original Message - From: Stephen K. Hessler, NMD To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria Hello, AVRA and silver list...Had a son which got his legs broken/crushed clear to the bone in a very dirty wound. While in the hosp. I took him silver colloid which looked like grape juice at the rate of two quarts a day during a pseudomonas infection and other ramifications. He said that he would drink the colloid and the wound which was left open for debridement would soon begin running and soaked the bed evidently washing the leg from the inside out. They wouldn't let us dress the wound. Got rid of the infection and with Divine intervention/help he is out of the hosp and still has both legs. h...@mcmo.net ** - End Original Message --- ** -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSinteresting followup on elderly client
Update on elderly client (infected wounds on leg): Saw her tonight and she had been to her doctor's office today, but her usual doctor was out, and a young doctor was in her place who gave her a sample of "silver creme". It was white and in a small plastictub with a handwritten "silver creme" label on it- no product name, no distributor, no doctor's name, nuthin'.Just "silver creme"...she told my client that it had silver in it. Looks like certain members of the medical communityare coming around. I bought her some c.s. anyway, but she's afraid to take it internally, and Idecided against a holy crusade for now...looks like her new young doctor is taking care of thatHappy ending. Yay!Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CSNew email address
Sorry, I didn't sign that last one, and I've changed to a new hotmail email acct. because of these virus SUESthe update on the elderly client was from me, Gage. And I didn't receive the kak or the nasty new one that doesn't have an attachment. I would suggest that all who are still having virus protection problems do the same- it's easy. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS diabetes
Hi Terry, Glad to hear this report from the Health Food Owner about his client in Manitoba. My wife has type 2 diabetes as well and has tried CS (probably not enough), but there was no change. Would you be able to obtain more info from this Health food store regarding: - Strength of CS. - Possibility of obtaining E-mail address of his client and of the Health food store. I certainly would like to obtain more details about what other drugs that this client may have taken as well. I beleive that it could benefit to some other members of this list as well. Thanking you, Gaston = - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: CS diabetes I received a call from a Health Food owner in Manitoba who reported a client of his who had type 2 diabetes. She had it severe enough that her whole health was effected. By the end of her 4th 16 oz. bottle of CS, she was feeling much better. She went to her doctor and he said, What have you been doing? She said, What do you mean? He said, Your blood sugar is normal. What have you been doing differently? She wouldn't tell him. Terry Wayne ___ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client
Thank you for the update... The silver creme is most likely Silver Sulfadiazine. I hope this doctor included some instructions. Silvadine is not indicated for prolonged use, and can cause a secondary fungal infection ( which ideally is only a minor infection that will clear up after use has stopped ). Silvadine is excellent stuff ( a silver compound in a cream base ), usually only prescribed for things like severe burns, skin graft donor sites, ect. Doctors normally don't use it as a sole infection fighting agent. It would be interesting to see how well it does ( not likely as good as ionic silver ). - Original Message - From: G. T. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:44 AM Subject: CSinteresting followup on elderly client Update on elderly client (infected wounds on leg) : Saw her tonight and she had been to her doctor's office today, but her usual doctor was out, and a young doctor was in her place who gave her a sample of silver creme. It was white and in a small plastic tub with a handwritten silver creme label on it- no product name, no distributor, no doctor's name, nuthin'.Just silver creme...she told my client that it had silver in it. Looks like certain members of the medical community are coming around. I bought her some c.s. anyway, but she's afraid to take it internally, and I decided against a holy crusade for now...looks like her new young doctor is taking care of thatHappy ending. Yay!
Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client
In a message dated 05/15/2001 8:29:07 AM Central Daylight Time, colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com writes: Thank you for the update... The silver creme is most likely Silver Sulfadiazine. I hope this doctor included some instructions. Silvadine is not indicated for prolonged use, and can cause a secondary fungal infection ( which ideally is only a minor infection that will clear up after use has stopped ). Silvadine is excellent stuff ( a silver compound in a cream base ), usually only prescribed for things like severe burns, skin graft donor sites, ect. Doctors normally don't use it as a sole infection fighting agent. It would be interesting to see how well it does ( not likely as good as ionic silver ). _ One of the doctors my daughter works with damaged his finger very badly doing mechanic work. He got the other doc to treat it... shot, medication etc. After a few days she told me it still looked terrible and had gotten infected. I knew they wouldn't do anything natural so told her to get him some silvadine. He did send her to pharmacy to pick some up and it healed almost over night. Good stuff. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAthlete's Feet
I have 2 sons who both have something like athlete's feet that is quite severe. The skin is coming off in layers and it is painful. One has had it for quite a while. After reading the list for the last couple of months, I was thinking of mixing some CS with Bentonite and having them put it on each evening. I suppose taking CS internally might also help. Is there anything else that might help? i had also thought of having them put peroxide on before the clay pack. Also had thought of putting on some MSM externally after the clay came off and possibly internally. Thanks, Craig -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTesting.. Testing. Ignore..
TestingJust testing something about my email.. please ignore.. Grant.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe: CSFlesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached you your email
As far as I know, Outlook express is the only mail program that will execute embeded worms in an email without you clicking on an attachment. Netscape and Eudora do not have that security hole. Anyone running Outlook is begging to be infected. Of all my friends who have gotten any worms 100% are running Outlook Express, yet only about 20% of my friends run it. Marshall Jimbo Wright wrote: This is one of those little advantages to HTML email. The virus can be imbeded right into it so that no attachment is necessary. This is a good argument for plain text email which at least stops one possible source of virus transfer. Jim Wright -Original Message- From: s...@a2r.org [mailto:s...@a2r.org] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:07 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSre: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria - Dangerous virus attached you your email Hello, As you already know, this email had a virus attached. The dangerous thing about it is that it kicked-in as soon as I opened the message. It wasn't included as an attachment - which I NEVER open. That is scary, as the next one might not be as easy to get rid of. Steve Radcliff ** Original Subject: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria ** Original Sender: A.V.R.A colloidalsilverd...@hotmail.com ** Original Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 21:07:40 -0400 (EDT) ** Original Message follows... Thank you for reporting your own personal experience, Stephen. I am most glad your son recovered! PS: You have the Kak virus - Original Message - From: Stephen K. Hessler, NMD To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: Re: CSFlesh eating bacteria Hello, AVRA and silver list...Had a son which got his legs broken/crushed clear to the bone in a very dirty wound. While in the hosp. I took him silver colloid which looked like grape juice at the rate of two quarts a day during a pseudomonas infection and other ramifications. He said that he would drink the colloid and the wound which was left open for debridement would soon begin running and soaked the bed evidently washing the leg from the inside out. They wouldn't let us dress the wound. Got rid of the infection and with Divine intervention/help he is out of the hosp and still has both legs. h...@mcmo.net ** - End Original Message --- ** -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSTesting..Please Ignore..
TestingJust testing something about my email.. please ignore.. Grant.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSAbout the kak worm problem...
Hi all, Please don't despair. I'm actively working on adding a filter to the list software which should break the kakworm and similar embedded script based e-pathogens. Since I can see no legitimate reason for anyone to be sending an embedded script of any kind, I'm just going to try to strip them out of the messages altogether. I figure everything between script and /script can just *go*. Inevitably, I expect that any tampering I do to the HTML code of the messages may break something for some people who are trying to read them, so I ask you all to bear with me during the debugging process. Anyone with unix, procmail, sed, or smartlist experience is welcome to step forward and lend a hand he says, hopefully! The ideal would be to strip *all* HTML out of the messages and just post the text, but that seems to be a rather large software project, requiring all sorts of detailed understanding of the present state of web standards *and* the proprietary violations^H^H^H extensions of those standards by certain companies whose initials are MS... In the meantime, if anyone can re-post instructions for filling the gaping security holes in Outlook Express that would be a *great* help. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS Forum Board
Hello, My name is Steve Radcliff and I am new to CS. I have some specific questions, and wonder if there is a reason a Forum Board and/or FAQ have not been started. The Archive site seems a likely place for them. If there is an interest in one, or both, of them but they cannot be made a part of the Archive site, I will be happy to provide a free (no banner or other type of advertising) site through my host. I just assembled Dr. Jon's CS Generator, and have started to make CS. I would like to exchange information and ideas with others who have build one. I also have questions as to the dosages people are using for different health (human, animal and plant) problem treatments. Each of these could be good Forum subjects, and the forums could make the finding of information more easy. Cordially, Steve Radcliff -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS Forum Board
Hello, My name is Steve Radcliff and I am new to CS. I have some specific questions, and wonder if there is a reason a Forum Board and/or FAQ have not been started. The Archive site seems a likely place for them. If there is an interest in one, or both, of them but they cannot be made a part of the Archive site, I will be happy to provide a free (no banner or other type of advertising) site through my host. I just assembled Dr. Jon's CS Generator, and have started to make CS. I would like to exchange information and ideas with others who have build one. I also have questions as to the dosages people are using for different health (human, animal and plant) problem treatments. Each of these could be good Forum subjects, and the forums could make the finding of information more easy. Cordially, Steve Radcliff -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSOzone
Hello, There has been information exchanged related to H2O2 and ozone creation on this list. That is the reason for this question: Does anyone know how to effectively increase the oxygen level in a person's blood? My wife has serious scarring of both lungs due to pulmonary Sarcoidosis. Recently, her oxygen absorption rate has dropped to around 82% after walking a short distance (down the hall), and she is constantly tired. In hopes her recent drop is being caused by infection in her lungs, I have just started giving her around 6 ounces per day of CS made using the information provided by Dr, Jon to make CS. No apparent effect yet. Dr. Jon also intimated that a few drops of food grade hydrogen peroxide (35%) in water might help. In addition, he suggested an ozone generator (using a plan shown on his web site) might help. Haven't tried that yet, but am getting ready to if her condition doesn't soon improve. Does ANYONE have any thoughts or suggestions on how to help MT wife? It is tearing me up to see her unable to breath without the constant use of an oxygen generation machine. Thank you, Steve Radcliff -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client
Thanks for responding- no, the doctor only gave oral instructions to apply it to the wound. I hope she doesn't get the secondary infection you described below. Original Message Follows From: "A.V.R.A"Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:21:20 -0600 Thank you for the update... The silver creme is most likely Silver Sulfadiazine. I hope this doctor included some instructions. Silvadine is not indicated for prolonged use, and can cause a secondary fungal infection ( which ideally is only a minor infection that will clear up after use has stopped ). Silvadine is excellent stuff ( a silver compound in a cream base ), usually only prescribed for things like severe burns, skin graft donor sites, ect. Doctors normally don't use it as a sole infection fighting agent. It would be interesting to see how well it does ( not likely as good as ionic silver ). - Original Message - From: G. T. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:44 AM Subject: CSinteresting followup on elderly client Update on elderly client (infected wounds on leg) : Saw her tonight and she had been to her doctor's office today, but her usual doctor was out, and a young doctor was in her place who gave her a sample of "silver creme". It was white and in a small plastic tub with a handwritten "silver creme" label on it- no product name, no distributor, no doctor's name, nuthin'.Just "silver creme"...she told my client that it had silver in it. Looks like certain members of the medical community are coming around. I bought her some c.s. anyway, but she's afraid to take it internally, and I decided against a holy crusade for now...looks like her new young doctor is taking care of thatHappy ending. Yay! Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS diabetes
There have been studies on the use of cinnamon to stabilize insulin levels in diabetics- a teaspoon a day of fresh, high quality cinnamon, and the worst that could happen is that it wouldn't help and your toast would taste better. I have several articles on this subject with references, and I'll post them if you'd like. I have them on file for my diabetic hypnotherapy clients who come in for weight loss and gaining control over sugar cravings. Gage Original Message Follows From: "Gaston"Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CS diabetes Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:07:02 -0500 Hi Terry, Glad to hear this report from the Health Food Owner about his client in Manitoba. My wife has type 2 diabetes as well and has tried CS (probably not enough), but there was no change. Would you be able to obtain more info from this Health food store regarding: - Strength of CS. - Possibility of obtaining E-mail address of his client and of the Health food store. I certainly would like to obtain more details about what other drugs that this client may have taken as well. I beleive that it could benefit to some other members of this list as well. Thanking you, Gaston = - Original Message - From: "Terry Chamberlin" To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: CS diabetes I received a call from a Health Food owner in Manitoba who reported a client of his who had type 2 diabetes. She had it severe enough that her whole health was effected. By the end of her 4th 16 oz. bottle of CS, she was feeling much better. She went to her doctor and he said, "What have you been doing?" She said, "What do you mean?" He said, "Your blood sugar is normal. What have you been doing differently?" She wouldn't tell him. Terry Wayne ___ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
RE: CS diabetes
I happened to be reading in the book Where There Is No Doctor a couple of days ago. It stated, with no reference, that ordinary prickly pear cactus juice is believed by some authorities to benefit diabetes. Perhaps it is worth researching. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: G. T. [mailto:four_10_g...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 12:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS diabetes There have been studies on the use of cinnamon to stabilize insulin levels in diabetics- a teaspoon a day of fresh, high quality cinnamon, and the worst that could happen is that it wouldn't help and your toast would taste better. I have several articles on this subject with references, and I'll post them if you'd like. I have them on file for my diabetic hypnotherapy clients who come in for weight loss and gaining control over sugar cravings. Gage Original Message Follows From: Gaston Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CS diabetes Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 08:07:02 -0500 Hi Terry, Glad to hear this report from the Health Food Owner about his client in Manitoba. My wife has type 2 diabetes as well and has tried CS (probably not enough), but there was no change. Would you be able to obtain more info from this Health food store regarding: - Strength of CS. - Possibility of obtaining E-mail address of his client and of the Health food store. I certainly would like to obtain more details about what other drugs that this client may have taken as well. I beleive that it could benefit to some other members of this list as well. Thanking you, Gaston = - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin To: Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: CS diabetes I received a call from a Health Food owner in Manitoba who reported a client of his who had type 2 diabetes. She had it severe enough that her whole health was effected. By the end of her 4th 16 oz. bottle of CS, she was feeling much better. She went to her doctor and he said, What have you been doing? She said, What do you mean? He said, Your blood sugar is normal. What have you been doing differently? She wouldn't tell him. Terry Wayne ___ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client
The secondary infection, to my knowledge, usually only developes if the cream is used constantly for more than one month. - Original Message - From: G. T. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client Thanks for responding- no, the doctor only gave oral instructions to apply it to the wound. I hope she doesn't get the secondary infection you described below. Original Message Follows From: A.V.R.A Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CSinteresting followup on elderly client Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 07:21:20 -0600 Thank you for the update... The silver creme is most likely Silver Sulfadiazine. I hope this doctor included some instructions. Silvadine is not indicated for prolonged use, and can cause a secondary fungal infection ( which ideally is only a minor infection that will clear up after use has stopped ). Silvadine is excellent stuff ( a silver compound in a cream base ), usually only prescribed for things like severe burns, skin graft donor sites, ect. Doctors normally don't use it as a sole infection fighting agent. It would be interesting to see how well it does ( not likely as good as ionic silver ). - Original Message - From: G. T. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:44 AM Subject: CSinteresting followup on elderly client Update on elderly client (infected wounds on leg) : Saw her tonight and she had been to her doctor's office today, but her usual doctor was out, and a young doctor was in her place who gave her a sample of silver creme. It was white and in a small plastic tub with a handwritten silver creme label on it- no product name, no distributor, no doctor's name, nuthin'.Just silver creme...she told my client that it had silver in it. Looks like certain members of the medical community are coming around. I bought her some c.s. anyway, but she's afraid to take it internally, and I decided against a holy crusade for now...looks like her new young doctor is taking care of thatHappy ending. Yay! -- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSAbout the kak worm problem...
Greetings all... I went ahead and downloaded the patch itself, as well as two small dos based programs that repair the damage - two programs, because there are currently two versions of the worm. To download all three files, simply click here: http://silverdata.20m.com/kak/ This will open a directory, where you can choose 1) to download all three files in zip format ( kakpatchrepair.zip) 2) to download only the patch (Outlook_Express_Q240308i.exe) 3) either of the fix files ( or both ). To use the Outlook express patch, simply download the file and double click on it. To use the fix files, download and double click on the file, then select remove from the popup dialog box that appears. It will tell you that either the damage was repaired or your computer was not found to be currently infected. - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:05 AM Subject: CSAbout the kak worm problem... Hi all, Please don't despair. I'm actively working on adding a filter to the list software which should break the kakworm and similar embedded script based e-pathogens. Since I can see no legitimate reason for anyone to be sending an embedded script of any kind, I'm just going to try to strip them out of the messages altogether. I figure everything between script and /script can just *go*. Inevitably, I expect that any tampering I do to the HTML code of the messages may break something for some people who are trying to read them, so I ask you all to bear with me during the debugging process. Anyone with unix, procmail, sed, or smartlist experience is welcome to step forward and lend a hand he says, hopefully! The ideal would be to strip *all* HTML out of the messages and just post the text, but that seems to be a rather large software project, requiring all sorts of detailed understanding of the present state of web standards *and* the proprietary violations^H^H^H extensions of those standards by certain companies whose initials are MS... In the meantime, if anyone can re-post instructions for filling the gaping security holes in Outlook Express that would be a *great* help. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSAthlete's Feet
CS has helped several people I know with severe Tinea Pedis, including myself. Lifelong itching, blistering peeling, flaking. Pharmaceuticals used to control it are toxic as hell and expensive. Three months of oral LVDC [3 each 9 V batteries in series] made it all better. Higher quality/concentration CS will probably work faster. I'll bet you would get faster results by oral consumption and soaking the feet in a mixture of MSM and CS---saturate solution. I have encountered mycosis resistant to CS, notably a ringworm type. It may take a while, even if it is susceptible. The spores of the fungus circulate in the blood and are found in most environments, so it will probably take a maintenance amount to kill off the germinating spores prevent recurrence from re-infection. Others have suggested wetting the sox with CS and letting it dry before wearing, but I am not confident the colloid will be recreated. Can't hurt though James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Craig Spaulding [mailto:spauld...@fil.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAthlete's Feet I have 2 sons who both have something like athlete's feet that is quite severe. The skin is coming off in layers and it is painful. One has had it for quite a while. After reading the list for the last couple of months, I was thinking of mixing some CS with Bentonite and having them put it on each evening. I suppose taking CS internally might also help. Is there anything else that might help? i had also thought of having them put peroxide on before the clay pack. Also had thought of putting on some MSM externally after the clay came off and possibly internally. Thanks, Craig -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAthlete's Feet
Craig: Bentonite is not known for its ability to eliminate fungal conditions. However, that said, many secondary problems associated with irritated atheletes foot often occur. These, bentonite handles well, and handles quickly. Coincidently, a recent non-standard treatment was done on an individual, diabetic, with several small infections that had been progressing for several weeks. Finally, the individual was in enough pain to where it interfered with the ability to sleep. An overnight treatment was done. All pain was removed within five minutes of application. Two superficial infections were completely eliminated. One deep infection was pulled to the surface ( the infection was under the skin ). Healing of the tissues in question has improved drastically ( as apposed to worsening ). The infection that lay beneath the surface of the skin is now visible as a surface fungal infection. It is being watched as a learning process without further intervention. Pain resumed about midway through the next day, primarily due to the dry skin that often accompanies severe athletes foot. One can make a light ointment or cream out of colloidal silver ( or at least, take one's favorite good cream, and add CS ). The infection sites on the surface of the skin remain infection free. The small infection that is visible in the photos ( see below ) was actually deep enough to call for direct formation of granular tissue ( it is hard to tell the depth of the injury in the photos ). Because of the nature of the tissues themselves, any solution will take some time of continual repeated treatment. The photos ( and commentary )of this treatment can be seen at: http://www20.brinkster.com/eytonsearth/forum One must either login to the forum as guest, guest, or sign up for a user name. The photos are in the photos section. The bentonite was prepared with a combination of natural hotsprings water which was partially dried then re-hydrated with colloidal silver. A small amount of Eucalyptus ( pure ) essential oil was added as well. - Original Message - From: Craig Spaulding spauld...@fil.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:57 AM Subject: CSAthlete's Feet I have 2 sons who both have something like athlete's feet that is quite severe. The skin is coming off in layers and it is painful. One has had it for quite a while. After reading the list for the last couple of months, I was thinking of mixing some CS with Bentonite and having them put it on each evening. I suppose taking CS internally might also help. Is there anything else that might help? i had also thought of having them put peroxide on before the clay pack. Also had thought of putting on some MSM externally after the clay came off and possibly internally. Thanks, Craig -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHVAC silver
Marshall, I just re-read this e-mail and thought I'd pass along this link if you haven't seen it. I spoke with Bill Fernald for a few minutes over the phone about the process that he uses and this picture is worth a thousand words. http://utopiasilver.com/goldcloseup.jpg Regards, Chip Hoyle Marshall Dudley wrote: I have tried them for gold using the submerged non-arcing CS production method, and was unsuccessfully in doing anyting but boiling the water. Using two of them in parallel is what we use for making the Silver Lighning CS. Works great. With a flow through you can make about 2 gallons an hour for 5 ppm CS per transformer if you cool the entrance water to near freezing. Marshall Chip Hoyle wrote: Hi everybody, I just got my 15kv 60ma x-former for producing colloidal gold. Has anyone on the list ever tried using an x-former of this voltage to do CS? I'm looking forward to taking the leap into HVAC. Would appreciate any feedback. Thanks! Chip Hoyle -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHVAC silver
Chip; I have spent about an hour with Bill about a month ago in regards to his process. It is intended to make gold colloid. I tried that setup for silver and it makes a very large particle size. When I contaacted him again about the silver problems he told me that it makes large particles. I have a gallon of CS with a bright red TE which I never get with the arc CO2 process. The process that Dr Bill Biagioli and I put together makes CS with a particle size of 1-2 and 6-8 nm with no T.E. not even in a dark room. I have the TEM to prove it. It is available to anyone at no cost. Chip, I will send the TEM on a separate post. It is quite large. Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHVAC silver
Bob wrote: The process that Dr Bill Biagioli and I put together makes CS with a particle size of 1-2 and 6-8 nm with no T.E. not even in a dark room. I have the TEM to prove it. It is available to anyone at no cost. Chip, I will send the TEM on a separate post. It is quite large. I challenge the validity of the claimed particle sizes above. Firstly, because a TEM cannot accurately determine the particle size in highly ionic solutions, and secondly, the Photon Correlation Spectrometer measured much larger particles in the sample provided by Bob for cs made by this process. For more details on why a TEM is not usable for measuring particles in highly ionic solutions see: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/definitions.html#TEM frank key -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAbout the kak worm problem...A QUESTION
I had 2 Kak's slip through security last week and 5 more got caught this week and were deleted automatically. I had installed the patch but not sure if I did it before or after the infection. I e-mailed the company asking how to delete the Kak's and they sent me instructions, some of which I could follow. A friend helped me finish it off. I am certainly learning about computers whether I want to or not My question for the smart one's is WHY does Explorer seem to be infected so much more than other programs. Is it the way the programs are written or are they being targeted...just curious Enjoy the Day Joanne www.snowcrest.net/samijo - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@home.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:39 PM Subject: Re: CSAbout the kak worm problem... Thanks so much I have norton but you never know? so I dw loaded the patches, works great, said I was not infected,,,god to see. Tel, from Phoenix,AZ A.V.R.A wrote: Greetings all... I went ahead and downloaded the patch itself, as well as two small dos based programs that repair the damage - two programs, because there are currently two versions of the worm. To download all three files, simply click here: http://silverdata.20m.com/kak/ This will open a directory, where you can choose 1) to download all three files in zip format ( kakpatchrepair.zip) 2) to download only the patch (Outlook_Express_Q240308i.exe) 3) either of the fix files ( or both ). To use the Outlook express patch, simply download the file and double click on it. To use the fix files, download and double click on the file, then select remove from the popup dialog box that appears. It will tell you that either the damage was repaired or your computer was not found to be currently infected. - Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:05 AM Subject: CSAbout the kak worm problem... Hi all, Please don't despair. I'm actively working on adding a filter to the list software which should break the kakworm and similar embedded script based e-pathogens. Since I can see no legitimate reason for anyone to be sending an embedded script of any kind, I'm just going to try to strip them out of the messages altogether. I figure everything between script and /script can just *go*. Inevitably, I expect that any tampering I do to the HTML code of the messages may break something for some people who are trying to read them, so I ask you all to bear with me during the debugging process. Anyone with unix, procmail, sed, or smartlist experience is welcome to step forward and lend a hand he says, hopefully! The ideal would be to strip *all* HTML out of the messages and just post the text, but that seems to be a rather large software project, requiring all sorts of detailed understanding of the present state of web standards *and* the proprietary violations^H^H^H extensions of those standards by certain companies whose initials are MS... In the meantime, if anyone can re-post instructions for filling the gaping security holes in Outlook Express that would be a *great* help. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS diabetes
Hi Terry Your friend is fortunate to have such a positive outcome with her diabetes. For most of us it usually isn't that simple. My only success has been with diet and exercise. But now I am so happy with a better diet, less meds, and I really enjoy my almost daily walk...except when the neighbors dog gets my leg. But CS has been helping it heal, although because of the diabetes I did have to go the ER and get some antibiotics. Hope your friend can cintinue to keep it under control..it can really be nasty. Enjoy the Day Joanne www.snowcrest.net/samijo - Original Message - From: Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 5:29 PM Subject: CS diabetes I received a call from a Health Food owner in Manitoba who reported a client of his who had type 2 diabetes. She had it severe enough that her whole health was effected. By the end of her 4th 16 oz. bottle of CS, she was feeling much better. She went to her doctor and he said, What have you been doing? She said, What do you mean? He said, Your blood sugar is normal. What have you been doing differently? She wouldn't tell him. Terry Wayne ___ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CScancer
Are there any documented cases where persons with cancer were cured with CS? Thanks, Jaunita DuVall
Re: CS diabetes
I have a friend who's wife has diabetes, the kind where she produces too much insulin. She apparently has had great success using cinnamon to stabilize her insulin levels. ~Hanan In a message dated 5/15/01 1:37:57 PM, four_10_g...@hotmail.com writes: There have been studies on the use of cinnamon to stabilize insulin levels in diabetics- a teaspoon a day of fresh, high quality cinnamon, and the worst that could happen is that it wouldn't help and your toast would taste better. I have several articles on this subject with references, and I'll post them if you'd like. I have them on file for my diabetic hypnotherapy clients who come in for weight loss and gaining control over sugar cravings. Gage -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS diabetes
Hi Hanan, On Wed, 16 May 2001 00:25:14 EDT, rainis...@aol.com wrote: I have a friend who's wife has diabetes, the kind where she produces too much insulin. She apparently has had great success using cinnamon to stabilize her insulin levels. Since cinnamon is a general-purpose internal antibiotic, I'd suspect she has some kind of infection that results in her diabetes. (Of course, most MDs don't accept that kind of explanation.) -- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCinnamon article
Hi- here's the article I had on cinnamonGage HOME: HEALTH: WIRE STORY Friday, August 25, 2000 By Suzanne Rostler NEW YORK Spoonful of Cinnamon May Help Diabetics People with type 2 diabetes may improve their ability to regulate their blood sugar by adding a little spice to their life, report researchers. In preliminary findings, cinnamon helped fat cells recognize and respond to insulin, the hormone that removes excess glucose (sugar) from the blood and deposits it into cells. In a test tube and in animal studies, the spice appeared to increase glucose metabolism by about 20 times, said Dr. Richard Anderson, lead scientist at the Beltsville, Maryland Human Nutrition Center, a branch of the US Department of Agriculture (USDA). : This is a very good means of improving blood sugar with minimal means and minimal cost, he told Reuters Health. This could help millions and millions of people. The majority of the more than 16 million Americans who suffer from diabetes have type 2 diabetes, a disease in which the cells fail to recognize insulin. As a result, the amount of sugar in the blood remains high, leading to fatigue and blurred vision. Over the long term, excess blood glucose can increase the risk of heart attack, kidney failure and blindness. Diabetes is the sixth-leading cause of death in the U.S., according to the American Diabetes Association. Anderson explained that his mostly unpublished research shows that a compound in cinnamon - methylhydroxy chalcone polymer (MHCP) - makes fat cells more responsive to insulin by activating the enzyme that causes insulin to bind to cells and inhibiting the enzyme that blocks this process. While it is too soon to recommend the spice as a regular treatment for type 2 diabetes, Anderson said patients can try adding 1/4-1 teaspoon of cinnamon to their food. The worst that will happen is it won't do any good and the best is that it will help dramatically, he said. (interview) Clinical trials using a cinnamon extract on humans are due to begin in 6 months, Anderson said.Type 2 diabetes is most often diagnosed in adults over 45 who are overweight. An increasing number of children and teenagers around the world are developing the disease to increasing rates of obesity and sedentary lifestyles. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWhat is a silver pulser
Marshall, Thanks for the info, I have a Dr. appt. tomorrow. Joyce - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 11:53 PM Subject: Re: CSWhat is a silver pulser The likelihood that the tick was carrying Lymes is quite high if he got the bulls eye. I would give him much more than 6-8 oz, and do it several times a day, once a day and most of the CS is gone by morning. You don't want to mess around with that. Also take him to a doctor and get him on some antibiotics. Lymes is pretty easy to get rid of in the first few days, but once it set up, it can be almost impossible to get rid of. Marshall Mike and Joyce Blewett wrote: Hi, I'm Joyce and new to the list. My family and I have been using homemade CS for about 4 years with terrific results. We haven't done the conventional antibiotic thing since. I saw mention of this silver pulser thing and have no idea what it is or what it is for could someone shed some light. We also have a situation that could use some counsel. My 5 year old son was bitten by a tick here in Oklahoma about 8 days ago and now there is a reddish ring like a bullseye around it. Yesterday the skin within the ring looked bumpy like a rash. We have been giving him about 6-8 oz of CS in the mornings and I have no clue how strong it is, but we process it twice if that means anything. Depending on whatever the tick may have had, will CS annihilate it or should I be worrying?...Thanks for any advice...Joyce at wanderingj...@geotec.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com