CSMore on Comcast problem
Hello everyone! Robert, our host and owner of Eskimo North, has put up a web page about the problem we are all having with Comcast blocking mail from the server that sends out list mail. He is asking people with Comcast accounts to contact them with their complaints. If you have any contact information for Comcast apart from the obvious ab...@... address or their useless blacklist_comcast...@... one, please let me and Robert know? He has tried to reach a human being there by phone and e-mail but has never gotten past their defenses to anybody with the authority or will to address the problem. Robert's address is nan...@eskimo.com and the web page is linked at the top of the www.eskimo.com main page. Thank you, Mike Devour owner, silver-list@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHow do Ode and others get CS started with no salt?
No generator knows anything about the water that's not between the electrodes. The main thing is to get all of the water to take turns between the electrodes. There are some 'time' related effects that should be addressed when running larger batches, that being mostly electrode crud buildup. Basically, towards the end of the batch, wipe the electrodes off whenever they get looking crusty. [Every half hour or hour?..whatever ] The old generators that were made to fit a 250 ml beaker can be used on bigger jars. Fat and squat is best when using thermal stirring. I used a 64 oz pickle jar for a long time. It was short enough that thermal stirring did well. I've made some jar adapters for those oldies so wide mouth jars can be used. [If you get one, say what it's for so you'll get the right one ] Using an upside down funnel as a chimney really shoots that water current to the top nicely...not good enough for gallon jars, though a taller/fatter funnel should do that fine as well, but quite well on quarts and shorter. One problem with that has cropped up on rare occasions and has to do with iffy water along with temperature gain in the funnel body. [120+ Deg gets you yellow, Under 100, generally not. 110...maybe. ] That's easily cured by using a lower wattage heat source to match the inflow to the outflow better for a given funnel size. Of course, using different water can help too. BTW A very simple way to induce thermal stir currents in a container is to place a desk lamp close to one side of a container so one side will be warmer than the other side. If you paint that side black??? [It gets warmer easier ] Distance determines temperature gain over heat loss from the cooler side. Balance it. [Lean an ice pack onto the other side? ] Following that line: If you are using a solar panel to run a generator, why not paint the bottom of the jar black, or a vertical strip on the sunny side of it...width or exposure angle determining temperature gain, and let the sun do the stirring? [Yes, you can run in the sun if you don't use salt or any other chemical starter ] Ode At 10:57 AM 8/30/2006 -0400, you wrote: I was going to upgrade to the one that makes more cs at a time, but decided not to tamper with what ain't broke. Jen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSore Knee
Marshalee don't take ibrufen (not good for high blood pressure)...take glucosamine for your knees and when it is swollen some ice will help? I had the same...running... to get the train...my knees were swollen the other day ...it takes time...really. Trudy - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:13 AM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee
CSAG Deodorant
Japan's stores now offer AG Ion Deodorant, in an aerosol can. I hope the overuse of silver does not cause it to lose effectiveness. Antibacterial soaps reportedly have helped create more virulent bacteria. Use of silver for unnecessary purposes might have the same effect. Let's hope not. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne
Thank you for those details, Julie. Useful info! I have never shared this information with my cardiologist who still cannot understand how i avoided the er. LOL Be well! Mike [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne
Ed wrote: Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper. I'm looking at a bottle... Ingredients are: distilled vinegar, red pepper, salt. In my limited experience, red pepper has always meant cayenne. Poking around the www.tabasco.com site nowhere do they refer to the special variety of red pepper they grow as cayenne, and cayenne is only mentioned specifically in a listing of heat unit ranges, alongside of Tabasco. Don't know what it means. Maybe an e-mail to the company is in order... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSIonic, etc.
An ion is an atom with a missing or added electron. This gives it a charge at the atomic level where it wants to share electrons with an ion with an opposite charge or gain / lose an electron. Stray electrons are everywhere, produced when radio waves photons and the like strike a surface etc. Ions are extremely unstable and ionic charge very strong. There are many sorts of charges weak and strong. If an induced charge is strong enough, it can ionize the material being charged, but an electrical or static charge doesn't necessarily do that. In water is about the last place to expect a static charge to exist as it has a strong tendency to bleed off and perfect insulators don't exist. I think it has been shown that the force that keep suspended particles apart is the very weak Vandervalls force, not ionic charge and that any time you make an ion with electrolysis, you also make an anion to balance it with. It can take a while for the two to find each other, but they will. [ Never mind capacitive effects, lousy glass photovoltaics and nucleation sites that may do other things] So you'd be correct in saying that it's a like charge that repulses, but wrong in what that charge is. The result isn't always very stable and molecular bonds weak so other unstable compounds such as a free radical [for one] can strip electrons out or add some and re-ionize the components of that unstable compound. A dissolved compound is like another state of matter. It's still what it is, but...consists of more or less charge balanced ions and anions. A Hydrosol might be an example of a loosely bonded ionic solution, more of a charge association with water molecules than an actual compound, but I'm not sure. wll...look it UP! hy·dro·sol (h+'drY-sôl', -sMl', -sOl') n. A colloid with water as the dispersing medium. The word seems to be in conflict with the definition. Hydro meaning water and sol meaning solution, but a colloid is not a solution, it's a suspension. [Or, is it really somewhere in between?] [EIS is both a -ion and anion- solution and a suspension] Aqueous http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/solution.htmlsolutions fall into three general categories based on how well they conduct electricity: * Strong http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/electrolyte.htmlelectrolytes when dissolved in water dissociate completely into ions and conduct electricity. For example, sodium chloride, NaCl, dissociates into Na+ and Cl- ions in water. Other examples of strong electrolytes are nitric acid (HNO3) and sodium hydroxide (NaOH). * Weak http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/electrolyte.htmlelectrolytes when dissolved in water do not dissociate to any large extent and therefore do not conduct electricity very well. Examples include ammonia (NH3) and acetic acid (CH3COOH). * Non-electrolytes do not dissociate to ions in water and do not conduct electricity. Examples include sugar (sucrose = C12H22O11), http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/alcohol.htmlethanol (CH3CH2OH) and methanol (CH3OH). Humm, the third category makes the ionic is dissolved statement a matter for qualification but still valid in context. It presents some interesting size related possibilities of a crossover point between nonconductive colloidal particles and conductive ions and anions. Could that be where the Vandervalls force lives? Sugar is a large molecule that might not be able to get small enough to make it to the crossover point and still be sugar. Following that line, perhaps the larger the particle, the weaker the repulsive Vandervalls force...therefore, once agglomeration starts, any added over threshold kinetic energy will accelerate it. Anyone who has made rock candy knows that sugar will both dissolve quite readily and crystallize around a nucleus when the saturation point is brought down by cooling the solution. Pure metallic colloid sized silver particles trapped in a hydrogen bubble acts like a semiconductor almost like the bubble is trying to squeeze the particles into a metal wire but can't quite do it, being balanced to a close juxtaposition by the curvature of the bubble but kept from direct contact by the Vandervalls force. Apply a little more pressure, destroy or compress the bubble and/or the water interface and you get plain metallic fully conductive silver. ..just an idea.. Double Hummm. I'm visualizing a way to make fine silver ball like nano granules just by adding a few thousand PSI to a container of water that has Grey Beard in it. [Micro bearings? Liquid wire? Silver powder coat? ] LOL Particles agglomerate become heavy and fall out of suspension, not because a strong ionic charge was neutralized by some outside force, but because the Vandervalls force is so weak that even Brownian motion can overcome it by causing a collision at a velocity the weak force can't resist. [ It's almost like billiard balls covered with velcro being held apart by
Re: CSSore Knee
Yes, I do take glucosamine and MSM for the joints, especially after taking the CMO. Good stuff, all of them! Ibu has never bothered me. My BP is fine. I read somewhere that you ice for 24 hours and then use heat thereafter, is that right? It is feeling lots better this morning, now if the pops will stop... Thanks!!! Marshalee Marshalee don't take ibrufen (not good for high blood pressure)...take glucosamine for your knees and when it is swollen some ice will help? I had the same...running... to get the train...my knees were swollen the other day ...it takes time...really. Trudy - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:13 AM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee
RE: CSAG Deodorant
i think you dont need to worry about silver being overused or becoming less effective. As everything that i have ever read seems to state that no viruses ever become resistant to the effectiveness of silver. As far as i can see it kills everything everytime.I am very interested in your reference to an AG Ion Deodorant available in Japan could you send me some links as i would like to check it out. thanks, Nathan From: Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAG Deodorant Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:38:25 +0900 Japan's stores now offer AG Ion Deodorant, in an aerosol can. I hope the overuse of silver does not cause it to lose effectiveness. Antibacterial soaps reportedly have helped create more virulent bacteria. Use of silver for unnecessary purposes might have the same effect. Let's hope not. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSore Knee
Thanks, Debbie! I usually go barefoot in the house, which is most of the time. I don`t work, so when I wear shoes, it is to the store or like that. My feet are constantly swollen, so more and more now, I wear some hard-soled slippers out. Oh the joys of maturing. sigh... At least I made a new friend while at Walmart yesterday, while buying some zinc for my eyes!! Marshalee You might have to let it just rest for awhile I know it is really bad to limp on it because you can get the muscle sequence out of whack...I also learned that shoes that are worn down on the sides can cause your knee's to hurt also.debbie Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee -- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: CS FRONT TOOTH (and cell salts)
The twelve cell salts were originally the Schussler cell salts, the biochemic tissue salts or inorganic mineral substances or trace elements. Other companies also make them now, for better or worse.They are Calc Fluor, calc phos, calc sulph, ferr phos, kali mur, kali phos, kali sulph, mag phos, nat mur, nat phos, and nat sulph and silicea. Worth researching. Rowena Rowena, What cell salts are you talking about$ Guess I really should read the rest of the messages on this topic. If that has been covered, ignore this message, Ruth http://www.tandkliniek-duitsland.nl/tandimplantaten/tandimplantaten.htm Rowena ,maybe this website can tell you more... in several languages. Trudy Okay, folks, please let me tap into your collective experience and wisdom. This evening my front tooth fell out. Well, it was a false one anyway, and a decision on what to replace it with had been delayed for a long time. Now I really do have to work out what sort of replacement to ask for. This horrible thing I'd been wearing for over ten years had metal at the back; when I asked my dentist what it was likely to be made of he shrugged and said it could easily be car bumpers from Bosnia. I dunno, but I wasn't happy about metal in the mouth. Ugh, the part that was next to my tooth seemed all black and almost corroded. What I have picked up from this site over time is that metal of any kind is not really wonderful in the mouth, even gold. But then, plastic is probably not wonderful either. What in this year 2006 can I ask for from a bio-aware dentist? It will have to be a new dentist, if I can get in to see the guy that works 45 minutes away as opposed to the old one who may not be practicing any more and in any case was working 3 hours away. Here is a tip from my experience that may help someone. When I was expecting my first baby in 1969 the nerve in my R front tooth got impossibly sensitive. The local dentist (nicknamed The Butcher by the local people, who preferred to travel to a nearby town for treatment) took it out and filling the gap has been a problem ever since. Ten years later with my second baby something similar was happening to the other front tooth. I looked up my biochemic book, decided on the appropriate cell salt, and within a week my tooth was fine. Two years later, third baby on way, same pain starting up, no time to read the book, took some pills that contained all 12 cell salts, and a couple of days later there was no more problem. What a shame I thought of the original nerve pain as a dental problem, not a nutritional one. I already knew about cell salts, and had the book. Ah, well. Hope someone else will benefit from the tip. I don't want holes bored in my bones for a screw-in fitting. Aussie dentists can never find a tooth colour to match, and go for one a little whiter than my natural colour. I might as well have gold as that! I've heard of porcelain teeth - anyone know about them? No, I'm not really planning to zap my gums and hope for a new tooth to grow, though it would be good fun. But in the meantime I need to avoid frightening little children in the street. Fang - er - Thank you kindly. Rowena -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS Hydrogen peroxide recipes for sore knee
Hmmm not sure why it dropped the subject off the first message. wendy -Original Message- From: Wendy [mailto:wen...@tuxnightclub.com] Sent: August 31, 2006 12:11 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS I have the Twelth and Thirteenth Edition of this booklet, have looked at it for years, but only recently reread it with the hopes of helping a mainstream sisters carpel tunnel wrists... I've been experimented on us first, which made me think it might help your knee! I made up some 6% spray and a 6% gel. The ingredients were easy to find. I had never used glycerin before but it was at the local health food store. The aloe juice was easy to find, and the gel I just used the regular gel rather then the cosmetic grade as I figured there'd be less additives in it. It's not as thick but works none the less. I used the gel on my dh's back pain away - and bleached his back temporarily too! ;-) Also has taken away several neck aches of mine. Still experimenting but here is the whole chapter with recipes and uses for it: Hth Wendy canada From Hydrogen Peroxide Ozone Thirteenth Edition Conrad LeBeau Chapter V Bio-Oxidate Formulas: quote in this book, I am releasing several formulas for making your own bio-oxidative medicines. Some formulas are designed for persons to make at home and others for heatlh care professionals. The 3% Peroxy Spray work equally as well as the Peroxy Gel. Peroxy Spray should be stored in a refrigerator if not used on a regular basis. Either may be left out at room temperature for several days at a time. However, they will gradally lose their potency if exposed continuously to warm temperatures for more than two weeks at a time. HEALTH BENEFITS FORM USING PEROXY GEL/SPRAY: Aching joints Arthritis Rheumatism Pain (lessens or eliminates altogether) Back massage Athletes foot Sore muscles Burns Bruises Minor infections Rashes Insect bites Fungal and yeast infections Carpal tunnel syndrome Several letters received by us from customers indicate that Peroxy Gel is also beneficial for Skin cancer Tumors Gangrene Improves circulation in hands and feet restores feeling Cuts and wounds that wont heal Pleurisy/emphysema Scabies Testimonial letters tell of some incredible stories of healing experiences and of the gratitude people experience from using the gel. Several letter claim hydrogen peroxide was effective against skin cancer and tumors near the surface of the skin. As a topical application, it is believed to be compatible with any other treatment prescribed by your physician. Dosages: massage up to two tablesppons daily into the skin or use the 3% peroxy spray. The aloe vera acts like a carrier helping the H202 penetrate faster into the tissues and into the blood vessels. It also buffers the solution making it gentler on the mucus membranes and more patient friendly. FOR HOME USE 3% Peroxy Spray (for external uses) formula for 1 pint 1. into a bowl, pour 1 cup of aloe vera juice and add one cup of a 6% Hydrogen Peroxide solution. Mix with a spatula and pour into a bottle with a spray nozzle like an old Windex bottle. Keep refrigerated when not in use. For external use, spray directly on to any area of the body, you desire. Keep out of eyes. Use the same as you would Peroxy Gel. 2. label the bottle Peroxy Spray 3% H202 solution Note: DO NOT place 3% Peroxy Spray in the eyes. Some people have mixed the 3% solution with equal amounts of aloe vera juice and used a few drops in for infections in the ears. DO NOT USE H202 OR PEROXY SPARY ON HERPES INFECTIONS, COLD SORES OR SHIGLES. IT WONT WORK. IN FACT, H202 MAY ACTUALLY STIMULATE THE HERPES VIRUS. INSTEAD, TRY LEMON OIL, PATCHOULI OIL OR LOMATIUM DISSECTUM TINCTURE TOPICALLY AND APPLY I CE CUBES OR FOR REALLY GREAT RESLTS USE FRESLY MADE OZONATED OLIVE OIL. FOR HOME USE Sublingual H202 For infections (except herpes types) that wont respond to prescribed drugs 1. mix 2 tablespoon of 6% H202 (food grade quality) with 4 tablespoons of Aloe Vera juice. This gives you a 2% H202 solution in aloe vera juice. Using a dropper pipette, take 20 (1/4 teaspoon) to 40 drops (1/2 teaspoon) under the tongue every 30 to 60 minutes as directed by a health care professional who can monitor the effects and advise you. Hold solution in the mouth for 3 minutes until most of it is absorbed and then drink a full glass of water. Use up to ½ hour before meals but no earlier than 2 hours after a meal. You can also rinse your mouth with this solution and gargle with it also. NOTICE; DO NOT USE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE ORALLY ON A CONTINOUS DAILY BASIS LIKE IT IS SOME KIND OF DIETARY SUPPLEMENT. IT IS NOT. IT IS A LOW COST ANTIBIOTIC / ANTISEPTIC. USE SUBLINGUALLY FOR NO MORE THAN TWO WEEKS AND THEN DISCONTINUE ITS USE IF THE HEALTH PROBLEM PERSISITS. SEE A HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL. Small amounts applied topically may be used more frequently or as described. FOR HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS ONLY 6% Peroxy
Re: CSSore Knee
When something like that happens to me, I put undiluted DMSO straight from the bottle on it. Painting it on with my fingers. Pain is gone in minutes...I get mine from the horse feed store.. On 8/30/06, Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCayenne
EyeBright Formula 1 Part - Eyebright Herb 1 Part - Bayberry Bark 1 Part - Red raspberry 1 Part - Goldenseal 1/8 Part - Cayenne pepper in a base of 50% Water and 50% Alcohol = 100 Proof. A Part is a part by volume. Add 1 Cup of DMSO to a gallon of the above tincture. Ian Doc Shillington ND Copyright © 2001 by Ian Shillington. All rights reserved. If the solution is too strong causing too much pain then adjust the amount of cayenne and gradually increase. The above formula is very effective and some have said that their need for prescription glasses has diminished.LoveBobAdageyudiStaya Udanvti
RE: CS Hydrogen peroxide recipes for sore knee
Thanks, Wendy! This is just in time for me! I've developed a hitch in my right hip - mostly just when going down stairs, but last night it bothered me when I first stand up from a chair and tried to walk. I'll give this a shot! I've been using the H2O2 as mouthwash for some time, although the periodontist keeps trying to push Colgate Mouthwashhis assistant told me that regular use of the H2O2 will cause my mouth to go black. Hasn't happened yet, but just to be safe, I switch off with an organic mouthwash from my holistic dentist Anyhow, I've picked up CMO and will add your recipe in a salve for my hip. I wonder, can I add the H2O2 to the DMSO gel I have? Would that be good or bad? Linda --- Wendy wen...@tuxnightclub.com wrote: Hmmm not sure why it dropped the subject off the first message. wendy -Original Message- From: Wendy [mailto:wen...@tuxnightclub.com] Sent: August 31, 2006 12:11 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS I have the Twelth and Thirteenth Edition of this booklet, have looked at it for years, but only recently reread it with the hopes of helping a mainstream sisters carpel tunnel wrists... I've been experimented on us first, which made me think it might help your knee! I made up some 6% spray and a 6% gel. The ingredients were easy to find. I had never used glycerin before but it was at the local health food store. The aloe juice was easy to find, and the gel I just used the regular gel rather then the cosmetic grade as I figured there'd be less additives in it. It's not as thick but works none the less. I used the gel on my dh's back pain away - and bleached his back temporarily too! ;-) Also has taken away several neck aches of mine. Still experimenting but here is the whole chapter with recipes and uses for it: Hth Wendy canada From Hydrogen Peroxide Ozone Thirteenth Edition Conrad LeBeau Chapter V Bio-Oxidate Formulas: quote in this book, I am releasing several formulas for making your own bio-oxidative medicines. Some formulas are designed for persons to make at home and others for heatlh care professionals. The 3% Peroxy Spray work equally as well as the Peroxy Gel. Peroxy Spray should be stored in a refrigerator if not used on a regular basis. Either may be left out at room temperature for several days at a time. However, they will gradally lose their potency if exposed continuously to warm temperatures for more than two weeks at a time. HEALTH BENEFITS FORM USING PEROXY GEL/SPRAY: Aching joints Arthritis Rheumatism Pain (lessens or eliminates altogether) Back massage Athletes foot Sore muscles Burns Bruises Minor infections Rashes Insect bites Fungal and yeast infections Carpal tunnel syndrome Several letters received by us from customers indicate that Peroxy Gel is also beneficial for Skin cancer Tumors Gangrene Improves circulation in hands and feet restores feeling Cuts and wounds that wont heal Pleurisy/emphysema Scabies Testimonial letters tell of some incredible stories of healing experiences and of the gratitude people experience from using the gel. Several letter claim hydrogen peroxide was effective against skin cancer and tumors near the surface of the skin. As a topical application, it is believed to be compatible with any other treatment prescribed by your physician. Dosages: massage up to two tablesppons daily into the skin or use the 3% peroxy spray. The aloe vera acts like a carrier helping the H202 penetrate faster into the tissues and into the blood vessels. It also buffers the solution making it gentler on the mucus membranes and more patient friendly. FOR HOME USE 3% Peroxy Spray (for external uses) formula for 1 pint 1.into a bowl, pour 1 cup of aloe vera juice and add one cup of a 6% Hydrogen Peroxide solution. Mix with a spatula and pour into a bottle with a spray nozzle like an old Windex bottle. Keep refrigerated when not in use. For external use, spray directly on to any area of the body, you desire. Keep out of eyes. Use the same as you would Peroxy Gel. 2.label the bottle Peroxy Spray 3% H202 solution Note: DO NOT place 3% Peroxy Spray in the eyes. Some people have mixed the 3% solution with equal amounts of aloe vera juice and used a few drops in for infections in the ears. DO NOT USE H202 OR PEROXY SPARY ON HERPES INFECTIONS, COLD SORES OR SHIGLES. IT WONT WORK. IN FACT, H202 MAY ACTUALLY STIMULATE THE HERPES VIRUS. INSTEAD, TRY LEMON OIL, PATCHOULI OIL OR LOMATIUM DISSECTUM TINCTURE TOPICALLY AND APPLY I CE CUBES OR FOR REALLY GREAT RESLTS USE FRESLY MADE OZONATED OLIVE OIL. FOR HOME USE Sublingual H202 For infections (except herpes types) that wont respond to prescribed drugs 1.mix 2 tablespoon of 6% H202 (food grade quality) with 4 tablespoons of Aloe Vera juice. This gives you a 2% H202 solution in aloe vera juice. Using a dropper pipette,
Re: CSMore on Comcast problem
Sometimes the was to get action is to go to the sales department, and theaten to cancel your service if they don't fix it. Marshall M. G. Devour wrote: Hello everyone! Robert, our host and owner of Eskimo North, has put up a web page about the problem we are all having with Comcast blocking mail from the server that sends out list mail. He is asking people with Comcast accounts to contact them with their complaints. If you have any contact information for Comcast apart from the obvious ab...@... address or their useless blacklist_comcast...@... one, please let me and Robert know? He has tried to reach a human being there by phone and e-mail but has never gotten past their defenses to anybody with the authority or will to address the problem. Robert's address is nan...@eskimo.com and the web page is linked at the top of the www.eskimo.com main page. Thank you, Mike Devour owner, silver-list@eskimo.com [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne
This website has a ton of home remedies with cayenne other natural stuff http://www.earthclinic.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSore Knee
Usually the hip going out of alignment causes a knee problem. If you stand in front of a mirror and close your eyes for about ten seconds, then look at the shoulders in the mirror you will see one shoulder higher than the other. This usually means the hip is out of alignment. The first two web sites have free exercises you can do for the hip. The last one has a book of exercises that are well illustrated, the cost is $3.95. http://www.balancethecenter.com/exercise.html http://popweb.ph.inter.net/~divetom/dorn%20method_files/Page521.htm http://www.reliefmart.com/pain-book.htm Robert - Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
Re: CS Hydrogen peroxide recipes for sore knee
Wow! Thank you!!
Re: CSSore Knee
I read somewhere that you ice for 24 hours and then use heat thereafter, is that right? Yes that's right...try it Marshallee and take some rest. But 24 hour is VERY muchI think one hour is enough or as long the ice stays...also good sometimes for backache ...first ice and later heatso the brains don' t know whats going on ...but it heals. So different to explain in your language...I hope you understand. Trudy - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: Re: CSSore Knee Yes, I do take glucosamine and MSM for the joints, especially after taking the CMO. Good stuff, all of them! Ibu has never bothered me. My BP is fine. I read somewhere that you ice for 24 hours and then use heat thereafter, is that right? It is feeling lots better this morning, now if the pops will stop... Thanks!!! Marshalee Marshalee don't take ibrufen (not good for high blood pressure)...take glucosamine for your knees and when it is swollen some ice will help? I had the same...running... to get the train...my knees were swollen the other day ...it takes time...really. Trudy - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 5:13 AM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee
Re: CS Hydrogen peroxide recipes for sore knee
Questions: Where can I get a copy of a book or booklet that educates me about the properties and home use of hydrogen peroxide? The one I tried to chase down for almost a year was out of print, with no used copies available. Wendy, does the book also give up-to-date information on where to purchase these products? I would like to use a hydrogen peroxide gel intravaginally. I am assuming I should use a gel base without additives, and food grade H202, making either a 3% or 2% gel. Any thoughts? Also, does anybody know if H202 kills bacteria (some, all?), viruses (some, all?), molds and fungi (some, all?), and do these infectious organisms develop immunity to it after awhile? Does anybody know if H202 kills mycoplasma? Does anybody know if CS kills mycoplasma on contact? I have heard from a trusted source that the cause of interstitial cystitis is mycoplasma. I would like to try an infusion of H202 in the bladder, probably with some DMSO in it. Does anybody have access to knowledgeable guidance about using H202 in this way? I have used CS in the bladder, but hesitate to do so again because my integrated medicine physician said he thought it would irritate the bladder mucosa. Something did irritate it, or reinstate an infection, but I don't know if the cause was the CS, or the reintroduction of bacteria with the catheter. Thanking you in advance Jill Can anyone advise me how to make an intravaginal gel containing CS as the germkiller?
Re: CS FRONT TOOTH non-metal and porcelain
I looked up quite a few sites, Trudy, and came to the conclusion that ceramic or clear plastic would be the choice for me. I don't want metal either glued on or screwed in anywhere. Apart from anything the metal might do physically, I don't really want it acting as an aerial in my mouth for any one of the million signals floating around at any one time. I was able to get hold of my former dentist, now retired, and he gave me the name Procera extra strength, which could be made into a Maryland bridge. Also he gave me the name of a technician in Perth (Australia), who gave me the name of a practice only 90 mins or so from here, who used to use him but now have their own technician. At his recommendation I have an appointment Monday pm. The other thing my old dentist mentioned was an all resin bridge, pretty good but not as strong, which has fibres inside. I think this is what I think of as plastic. I think there is a better chance of correct colour matching with these two kinds than with what I have had previously. There was an interesting paragraph in Walter Lasts Physical Cancer Therapies: The pink colour of dentures may be due to heavy metals, commonly mercury or cadmium. If you cannot get a guarantee that the coloring is free of heavy metals, it is safer to ask for clear plastic dentures made of Methyl Methacrylate, or Flexite for partial dentures. Use plastic denture teeth rather than porcelain teeth, which are based on aluminium oxide and other metals. Change metal bridges and partial dentures to clear plastic. Even gold can be a problem because to make it cheaper, it is commonly blended with 20% of the more harmful palladium. A small amount of gold as for one crown may be acceptable, but as a general rule keep your mouth free of metals, and make sure only metal-free plastics are used as replacement. The above seems to be correct, as I note from the various sites that there does seem to be a fair amount of metal in the various porcelains, apart from metal backing used as wings or aprons glued to adjacent teeth. http://www.mynewsmile.com/porcelaincrownfrontteeth.htm said It used to be that any crown had to have some metal in it for strength. Today, we can make them out of all porcelain, meaning that they can look very esthetic and very natural. Unfortunately, most dental schools emphasize the use of porcelain fused to metal crowns, and that's the only crown many dentists know how to do for front teeth. But porcelain fused to metal crowns for front teeth look opaque, unnatural, and tend to develop a dark line at the gumline after a few years BONDED ALL PORCELAIN - This is the type of crown that a true cosmetic dentist will almost always place on a front tooth. It is made entirely of porcelain or other ceramic material. Now the type of porcelain used for crowns for teeth by itself is not very strong. The way a cosmetic dentist will handle this is he or she will bond the crown to the tooth, thus giving it plenty of strength to function. However, since dental schools do not normally train dentists in the bonding techniques required to place these crowns, you should be careful to only have them done by expert cosmetic dentists EXTRA STRENGTH ALL PORCELAIN - There are some new ceramic materials that have extra strength - so much so that they don't have to be bonded. Some general dentists like to place these crowns on front teeth because they don't require specialized training to place, and they don't have the esthetic disadvantages of metal. However, they aren't as esthetic as the bonded all porcelain crowns. Some brand names of crowns that are this type are Procera crowns, InCeram crowns, Cercon Zirconia crowns, Lava crowns, and Cerec crowns. ... Dental ceramics, also termed porcelains, have a composite structure consisting of a crystalline phase or phases within a glassy matrix. Dental ceramics consist of oxides, largely of metals and silica, and are essentially inert materials, but we should be aware that they can be attacked by acidulated phosphate fluoride (APF) gel In-Ceram is a glass infused ceramic used for crowns (Fig. 2). It consists of a core containing 90% alumina, which is built up on a refractory die. (What!) In-Ceram Spinnel is a similar type of material but uses the less hard magnesium spinnel (MgAl 2O4) instead of alumina. The material is specifically designed for inlays and onlays. Most recently introduced is In-Ceram Zirconia, which has a very high flexural strength. A novel material called Techceram has been introduced in the UK, which also relies on having a glass infused core. The core is built of small 'splats' of alumina sprayed from a plasma gun at a rotating refractory die Glass ceramics are polycrystalline solids prepared by the controlled crystallisation of glasses. The best known of these systems, Dicor, is based on mica crystals although there is another, Cerapearl, based on hydroxyapatite and experimental lithia-based materials.24 A Dicor
Re: CSCayenne
Hi group: Dr. Schultze (spelling?), student of Dr. Christopher (called the father of American herbal medicine), master herbalists, suggested using the entire bottle of cayenne tincture if one is having a heart attack. You will pass out, for sure, because the cayenne is so strong, but then recover without need for the ER, according to them. I always keep a bottle of cayenne tincture in the house, and another in the car, and my purse, for this reason. Obviously, do not take a whole bottle of cayenne tincture while driving. Jill They also suggested a cayenne treatment for eye problems that they said worked wonders, but was rather strong, in that blindness results after use for around five minutes, but then vision returns and is better than before. I haven't had the nerve to try that one, but if I was having a heart attack I figure I would have nothing to loose by downing a bottle of tincture, anyway. By the way, cayenne will give the sensation of burning your stomach if you have nothing in it, so take it with food, if possible, but this is not supposed to be harmful, just unpleasant. My daughter was told to take cayenne for a bleeding ulcer. She did, and went from vomiting blood to normal as usual the following day, eating and drinking things she was told not to, without any symptoms or stomach pain. She has had no further problems (ten years later). Cayenne is supposed to be the herb of choice for circulatory system problems. I have read that it is suggested for heavy menstrual bleeding (hemorrhage) that is resistant to other treatment (mix cayenne with warm water while lying in the bathtub and douche with a turkey baster). A person I heard of was suffering personality changes from an intracranial bleed following a head injury; he was told to take 9 capsules of cayenne a day for this problem. I don't know if he did take it, or, if so, what the results were. The advice came from a medical intuitive who is no longer available to me, but his advice has proved valuable in the past, so I stored this information in my brain. I always muscle test to find the appropriate amount for my situation, but, of course, in an emergency I would just go for it. Does anybody know if the Cool Cayenne one can purchase in the health food store is as affective as regular cayenne? Does cool mean the heat units are reduced, which, according to Dr. Schultze, would make it less effective, or if the heat effects are just buffered or masked in some way? I could probably ask the company, but I don't know that I could trust the answer I got anyway. If there is a profit motive, I generally like a second (or third) opinion. Jill
Re: CSCayenne
RE: Tobasco pepper Info here, it is a specific type of hot pepper Capsicum annuum and a brief history and Scoville heat range are here: http://www.lowfatlifestyle.com/flavoring/peppers_fresh_dried/tabasco.htm FWIW, Craig -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCayenne
200 caps, 450 mg each, 100,000 scoville heating units from www.doctorstrust.com, $6.39, with no additives, just gelatin for the capsule jim M. G. Devour wrote: Ed wrote: Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper. I'm looking at a bottle... Ingredients are: distilled vinegar, red pepper, salt. In my limited experience, red pepper has always meant cayenne. Poking around the www.tabasco.com site nowhere do they refer to the special variety of red pepper they grow as cayenne, and cayenne is only mentioned specifically in a listing of heat unit ranges, alongside of Tabasco. Don't know what it means. Maybe an e-mail to the company is in order... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne
Just dug out my old copy of Curing with Cayenne by Sam Biser featuring Richard Schultze. In the book Schultze states that any hot pepper will work, the hotter the better. (p119). As a herbalist I would have to disagree on the face value, except if the intention is solely for its heat value. Schultze is considered an authority on Cayenne, and has many followers so should be highly considered. That would mean that Tabasco sauce would have significant medicinals value, readily available and cheap. Plus IMO, a pretty reputable company. only problem I could see is that its not cayenne. Tabasco sauce and CS would make a valuable combination, maybe faster than Gardoade, H2O2, and DMSO. or maybe an interesting formula. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCayenne Ed wrote: Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper. I'm looking at a bottle... Ingredients are: distilled vinegar, red pepper, salt. In my limited experience, red pepper has always meant cayenne. Poking around the www.tabasco.com site nowhere do they refer to the special variety of red pepper they grow as cayenne, and cayenne is only mentioned specifically in a listing of heat unit ranges, alongside of Tabasco. Don't know what it means. Maybe an e-mail to the company is in order... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFW: CSAG Deodorant
-Original Message- From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:11 PM To: brit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp Cc: Richard Harris Subject: RE: CSAG Deodorant Hi Jonathan, I read your many interesting, helpful articles as you share them and thank you for them. I have been using 19ppm CS twice daily as a splash-on deodorant and have been very pleased with it. I would hesitate to store my CS in any metal container because I feel the CS might be affected by the metal. Thanks again. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 59 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 http://www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAG Deodorant Japan's stores now offer AG Ion Deodorant, in an aerosol can. I hope the overuse of silver does not cause it to lose effectiveness. Antibacterial soaps reportedly have helped create more virulent bacteria. Use of silver for unnecessary purposes might have the same effect. Let's hope not. JBB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS FRONT TOOTH non-metal and porcelain
Rowena what a story about the teeth. Some people go to Poland in Europe ,where the crowns are very cheapmaybe in China too. I need 2 new crowns,the dentist made a mistake on one tooth in front ...he fixed it,but I don' t like it ,my teeth were better before, it does not look nice now...you can see the repare. Maybe I go in december ..I get 2 bills...one in december and one in januari 2007... I hope Now I have to take 2 crowns at the same time,but only one a year the insurance will pay. One crown is about 550 euro...or about 600 dollars. My dentist now has assistance from abroadthe world is getting smaller today. www.tandzorgassen.nl Nice pictures on this website. see : behandelingen/kronen en bruggen = treatment..crowns and bridges. Maybe you take CS after the treatmentalways very goodit is my wonderwater. Trudy - Original Message - From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: Re: CS FRONT TOOTH non-metal and porcelain I looked up quite a few sites, Trudy, and came to the conclusion that ceramic or clear plastic would be the choice for me. I don't want metal either glued on or screwed in anywhere. Apart from anything the metal might do physically, I don't really want it acting as an aerial in my mouth for any one of the million signals floating around at any one time. I was able to get hold of my former dentist, now retired, and he gave me the name Procera extra strength, which could be made into a Maryland bridge. Also he gave me the name of a technician in Perth (Australia), who gave me the name of a practice only 90 mins or so from here, who used to use him but now have their own technician. At his recommendation I have an appointment Monday pm. The other thing my old dentist mentioned was an all resin bridge, pretty good but not as strong, which has fibres inside. I think this is what I think of as plastic. I think there is a better chance of correct colour matching with these two kinds than with what I have had previously. There was an interesting paragraph in Walter Lasts Physical Cancer Therapies: The pink colour of dentures may be due to heavy metals, commonly mercury or cadmium. If you cannot get a guarantee that the coloring is free of heavy metals, it is safer to ask for clear plastic dentures made of Methyl Methacrylate, or Flexite for partial dentures. Use plastic denture teeth rather than porcelain teeth, which are based on aluminium oxide and other metals. Change metal bridges and partial dentures to clear plastic. Even gold can be a problem because to make it cheaper, it is commonly blended with 20% of the more harmful palladium. A small amount of gold as for one crown may be acceptable, but as a general rule keep your mouth free of metals, and make sure only metal-free plastics are used as replacement. The above seems to be correct, as I note from the various sites that there does seem to be a fair amount of metal in the various porcelains, apart from metal backing used as wings or aprons glued to adjacent teeth. http://www.mynewsmile.com/porcelaincrownfrontteeth.htm said It used to be that any crown had to have some metal in it for strength. Today, we can make them out of all porcelain, meaning that they can look very esthetic and very natural. Unfortunately, most dental schools emphasize the use of porcelain fused to metal crowns, and that's the only crown many dentists know how to do for front teeth. But porcelain fused to metal crowns for front teeth look opaque, unnatural, and tend to develop a dark line at the gumline after a few years BONDED ALL PORCELAIN - This is the type of crown that a true cosmetic dentist will almost always place on a front tooth. It is made entirely of porcelain or other ceramic material. Now the type of porcelain used for crowns for teeth by itself is not very strong. The way a cosmetic dentist will handle this is he or she will bond the crown to the tooth, thus giving it plenty of strength to function. However, since dental schools do not normally train dentists in the bonding techniques required to place these crowns, you should be careful to only have them done by expert cosmetic dentists EXTRA STRENGTH ALL PORCELAIN - There are some new ceramic materials that have extra strength - so much so that they don't have to be bonded. Some general dentists like to place these crowns on front teeth because they don't require specialized training to place, and they don't have the esthetic disadvantages of metal. However, they aren't as esthetic as the bonded all porcelain crowns. Some brand names of crowns that are this type are Procera crowns, InCeram crowns, Cercon Zirconia crowns, Lava crowns, and Cerec crowns. ... Dental ceramics, also termed porcelains, have a composite structure consisting of a crystalline phase or phases within a glassy matrix. Dental ceramics consist of oxides, largely of metals and silica, and are
Re: CSSore Knee
www.acufinder.com - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:13 PM Subject: CSSore Knee Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/434 - Release Date: 8/30/2006
RE: CSCayenne
I've passed this info along to my husband, and I'm really hoping that we will determine that tabasco sauce can, in fact, be used in this application. First, I love the stuff, and use it a lot (try it on pizza - you'll feel a lot less guilty, and it tastes a lot better than salt pepper or pepper flakes). But secondly, it's easy to find and grab in our kitchen, and something easy to remember Linda --- Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net wrote: Just dug out my old copy of Curing with Cayenne by Sam Biser featuring Richard Schultze. In the book Schultze states that any hot pepper will work, the hotter the better. (p119). As a herbalist I would have to disagree on the face value, except if the intention is solely for its heat value. Schultze is considered an authority on Cayenne, and has many followers so should be highly considered. That would mean that Tabasco sauce would have significant medicinals value, readily available and cheap. Plus IMO, a pretty reputable company. only problem I could see is that its not cayenne. Tabasco sauce and CS would make a valuable combination, maybe faster than Gardoade, H2O2, and DMSO. or maybe an interesting formula. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCayenne Ed wrote: Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper. I'm looking at a bottle... Ingredients are: distilled vinegar, red pepper, salt. In my limited experience, red pepper has always meant cayenne. Poking around the www.tabasco.com site nowhere do they refer to the special variety of red pepper they grow as cayenne, and cayenne is only mentioned specifically in a listing of heat unit ranges, alongside of Tabasco. Don't know what it means. Maybe an e-mail to the company is in order... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne
Why is everyone so against a little alcohol? A little alcohol is good for you. Cayenne tincture should be made with alcohol. You can make it yourself with 80 proof vodka and cayenne or fresh (hot) peppers. If fresh peppers, cut them up and put in blender container, fill empty space with vodka and blend (just enough vodka to cover). Put in a jar and shake up every day for a week or so and then strain. You can do the same thing with the ground dried cayenne but you may need to use a different gage for filling with alcohol (add vodka to cover and go above the cayenne by one third of the volume for example, I mean add more vodka). Make it strong. Just don't be drinking more than a couple of droppers full at a time, or more than a shot... ;-)) One MD (David Williams) is recommending drinking one or two cups of Irish coffee at the first sign of a heart attack... Richard Schulze (I think it was) recounts a story of an herbalist throwing a pinch of cayenne in his own eye at the start of a lecture to prove that cayenne wouldn't harm the eye. It didn't. With this in mind and some experience using lesser doses of cayenne in an eyewash I decided to test the theory. I threw a large pinch of cayenne into my eye. I really wished I hadn't for about 20 minutes, it really hurt. After that the eye was perfectly fine. Half vinegar and half alcohol is used to make a tincture of lobelia. Dan -Original Message- From: Ed Kasper [mailto:edkas...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:46 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCayenne Thanks Julie. I make a cayenne extract with my kombucha distilled vinegar (2% acetic acid). I use 180,000 HU. It has a tendency to fall out of suspension and has to be shaken. Even with the low percentage acetic acid it doe not seem to attract mold, but long term storage may be a problem. Tabasco Sauce uses vinegar and vinegar is extremely healthy for you especially compared to alcohol. I have also made kombucha mushroom tea using cayenne and comes out really spicy. Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper. Lots of peppers are hotter than cayenne - some over 1,000,000 HU, so IMO, I don't think Tabasco would work. I seem to know a lot of folks who gobble down really hot peppers daily and they seem to have the same problems as the rest of people who don't eat hot peppers so cayenne must have special attributes otherwise Dr Christopher, Shultz, and others would have used even hotter peppers or simply Tabasco sauce. One thing I am leery of is the claim that cayenne scan/should be used in the eyes. I trained police for years in the use of pepper spray, as a matter of policy (and group pressure) I had to be pepper sprayed and it did knock me down with for what I thought was a long recovery time. Police pepper spray is simply capsicum oil (cayenne pepper) and water and pressure. maybe I should practice up for the coming events. In your opinion what would be the difference if one used vinegar instead of alcohol ? Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: julie martin [mailto:wolfp...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 7:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCayenne Ed, the two bottles i have are from different companies. one says neutral grain spirits (38%), distilled water. the other says extracted with 95%grain alcohol and distilled water. i also keep the powder on hand to make a hot tea with, which after you get used to it is pretty good. i try to buy the freshest available and the highest heat units. i would use the powder for any cut to stop bleeding and would reach for any form of cayenne before i took nitro. julie I was just wondering if you cayenne extract was an alcohol based extraction or what solvent was used, maybe vinegar? any ideas? Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCayenne
Hi Linda, I've passed this info along to my husband, and I'm really hoping that we will determine that tabasco sauce can, in fact, be used in this application. First, I love the stuff, and use it a lot (try it on pizza - you'll feel a lot less guilty, and it tastes a lot better than salt pepper or pepper flakes). But secondly, it's easy to find and grab in our kitchen, and something easy to remember I too love Tobasco. And I use the 90,000SU organic cayenne from Frontier Brands. I mix an 1/8 teaspoon of cayenne with 6oz of G W Knudsen's Very Veggie vegtable cocktail (organic), 3 times a day. The difference in the effect betweeen Tobasco and the cayenne is profound. The cayenne lights up your entire body and lasts for some time. I just drank about an oz of this mix and I would say that the amount of heat in that oz is about equal to the heat from Tobasco that I anoint my sausage and eggs with. That means Tobasco all over everything. FWIW, Craig -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant
I should have mentioned that we can indeed make our own products at almost no cost. I've never tried, but if it works, deodorant would be very nearly free. The products in the stores are oven quite lucrative for the manufacturers. One could make a pint or two of EIS, store it in plastic atomizer bottles, and have a ready supply of deodorant for pennies. That could add up to enormous savings over time. I should try. I'll post the results. BTW, seems plain tap water would work all right for this purpose; you'd end up with silver salts, but for use on the skin it shouldn't matter much.In my little home experiments, tap water produces lots of sliver salts very quickly. One should never ingest these, but for a homemade deodorant, tap water would be cheaper and faster. On an automatic generator, the shutoff is pretty fast. JBB On Friday, Sep 1, 2006, at 05:41 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote: I have been using 19ppm CS twice daily as a splash-on deodorant and have been very pleased with it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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TOP TEN Herb #1) The Emergency Herb: Cayenne NOTES from Dr. Schulze: I have literally seen this herb bring the dead back to life. In an emergency situation, grab this herb FIRST. In fact, you should have a bottle of the tincture or a bag of the powder in the kitchen, bathroom, bedroom and the glove box of your car. Just like the American Express Ad, Don't leave home without it! Cayenne can be placed directly on wounds, even where the person is cut to the bone. I have never seen cayenne cause infection - not even a drop of pus - when placed directly into wounds. The blood loss stops in seconds. I just had a two-inch gash down to my bone on my leg and cayenne stopped all bleeding. I have seen the following insane warnings in highly-popular herb books written by herbal idiots: CAUTION: cayenne can be irritating to hemorrhoids. It should not be used by people with gastrointestinal problems. Never apply cayenne ointment to broken skin. Prolonged application can cause skin irritation. If taken internally, do not exceed recommended dose of 1-3 capsules daily. High dosages taken internally can cause gastroenteritis and kidney damage. You have just read the words of a moron who has obviously never used cayenne to cure serious diseases, as I have done for 25 years. First, cayenne pepper is not irritating to hemorrhoids. It cures them, especially when applied directly in ointment form. [Note from Sam Biser: This is true. I tried it myself and it worked] Second, it cures gastrointestinal problems in most people. There are a few people who should be cautious with it, those with a hot constitution, but even these people may need cayenne to heal themselves, regardless of any temporary stomach irritation. Third, cayenne is the best healer for broken skin. It may sting, but the wound will heal with less or no scarring, and without infection. In fact, failure to apply cayenne to broken skin can cause a person to bleed to death due to blood loss. Applying cayenne can stop bleeding in seconds and save life. I used cayenne when my son was born. When my boy was born, my wife tore a bit. She ripped through a vein, and in seconds, had bled a pool about two feet in diameter. I squirted 15 to 20 dropperfuls of cayenne tincture allover her vagina and even a few dropperfuls into it. She was a bit white, so I gave her a dropperful orally also. The bleeding stopped in one second. I have even used a turkey baster to squirt cayenne powder in a woman's vagina who was about to bleed to death before she could get to a hospital. Her spurting blood went to a tiny trickle in three seconds. Severe rectal or vaginal bleeding: I have also used cayenne powder for severe rectal bleeding. Yes, before you ask me, it is intense. It's painful, but it saves lives. A teaspoonful of cayenne pepper in warm water, injected using a rectal syringe, stops the bleeding. Then, the herbal moron tells us not to exceed his upper dosage of one to three capsules per day. Let me tell you, thousands of my patients saved their lives, and avoided certain heart transplants, by using a teaspoon of 150,000 h.u. or more cayenne per hour. Brain tumors: I once had a patient who dissolved his brain tumor by using massive doses of cayenne pepper. This man was in his 50's and he was diagnosed with a rapidly advancing, malignant brain tumor. With this tumor, they said that even with surgery, radiation, and chemotherapy, he would only have a 5% chance of survival. When he came to me, it was evident that he had no idea what natural healing really was and he was not going to make any major changes in his lifestyle. He was a big fan of Dr. Christopher and asked if cayenne would help him. He said he liked it, and I said, If that's all you are going to do, then you must take it in large doses, and he agreed. After one and a half months of taking massive doses of cayenne pepper, and not much else, the tumor was totally dissolved. He used ten teaspoons a day for the first month. I have actually had patients use up to sixteen teaspoons a day. When the doctors discovered that the cancer was gone, they suggested an exploratory brain surgery. He told me he replied, I'll leave my body to science, but not until I'm dead, please! Finally, I've used cayenne to cure kidney disorders and get the kidneys going again. It isn't cayenne that's dangerous. These herbal madmen are full of opinions and they write best-sellers based on their imaginations on what could happen - and not what does happen in the real world on planet Earth. These herbal airheads are too busy cashing royalty checks to run a clinic for terminally-ill people, as I did. Major Benefit: Stops Bleeding (internal or external), Heart Attack, Stroke, or Shock. Dissolves clots. SCHULZE: I have had at least 20-30 patients over the years who have had a stroke right in my waiting room. Once I had an elderly man in my office and was giving him an iridology exam. As I was
Re: CSCayenne
Funny story-- I just got out of the dentist chair from a cleaning. Back in my truck I grabbed what I thought was my bottle CS-instead it was my bottle of cayenne solution. Took a large swig ---needlees to say I had to pull off the road. My saliva glands poured for over 30 minutes. I put the cayenne in a different colored bottle. - Original Message - From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:33 PM Subject: RE: CSCayenne Just dug out my old copy of Curing with Cayenne by Sam Biser featuring Richard Schultze. In the book Schultze states that any hot pepper will work, the hotter the better. (p119). As a herbalist I would have to disagree on the face value, except if the intention is solely for its heat value. Schultze is considered an authority on Cayenne, and has many followers so should be highly considered. That would mean that Tabasco sauce would have significant medicinals value, readily available and cheap. Plus IMO, a pretty reputable company. only problem I could see is that its not cayenne. Tabasco sauce and CS would make a valuable combination, maybe faster than Gardoade, H2O2, and DMSO. or maybe an interesting formula. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:56 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCayenne Ed wrote: Tabasco is hotter and tastier but it is a different pepper. I'm looking at a bottle... Ingredients are: distilled vinegar, red pepper, salt. In my limited experience, red pepper has always meant cayenne. Poking around the www.tabasco.com site nowhere do they refer to the special variety of red pepper they grow as cayenne, and cayenne is only mentioned specifically in a listing of heat unit ranges, alongside of Tabasco. Don't know what it means. Maybe an e-mail to the company is in order... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSore Knee
Hi again Marshalee...glad you made a new friend...if your feet and knees are swelling too do you have some circulation problems or something else going on maybe?...debbie Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Thanks, Debbie! I usually go barefoot in the house, which is most of the time. I don`t work, so when I wear shoes, it is to the store or like that. My feet are constantly swollen, so more and more now, I wear some hard-soled slippers out. Oh the joys of maturing. sigh... At least I made a new friend while at Walmart yesterday, while buying some zinc for my eyes!! Marshalee You might have to let it just rest for awhile I know it is really bad to limp on it because you can get the muscle sequence out of whack...I also learned that shoes that are worn down on the sides can cause your knee's to hurt also.debbie Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com wrote: Hi! Anyone have any suggestions for a sore and swollen knee? I think I sprained the darn thing when my Pug wanted to go out in the middle of the night, and in the dark I stepped on a bit of dog chewy. That hurt my wonky foot, so I stepped off it quickly, and came down funny. This was a couple of weeks ago, and since then it pops and snaps, and it hurts like holy hanna when it does! I have been keeping the hot pad on it and taking Ibuprofen occasionally. Seems to be the ligamenty thing that holds the kneecap on, as the pain isn`t deep in the joint. Ideas?? Marshalee - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant
It works fine I use it myself but I don't use the tap water...debbie Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: I should have mentioned that we can indeed make our own products at almost no cost. I've never tried, but if it works, deodorant would be very nearly free. The products in the stores are oven quite lucrative for the manufacturers. One could make a pint or two of EIS, store it in plastic atomizer bottles, and have a ready supply of deodorant for pennies. That could add up to enormous savings over time. I should try. I'll post the results. BTW, seems plain tap water would work all right for this purpose; you'd end up with silver salts, but for use on the skin it shouldn't matter much. In my little home experiments, tap water produces lots of sliver salts very quickly. One should never ingest these, but for a homemade deodorant, tap water would be cheaper and faster. On an automatic generator, the shutoff is pretty fast. JBB On Friday, Sep 1, 2006, at 05:41 Asia/Tokyo, Richard Harris wrote: I have been using 19ppm CS twice daily as a splash-on deodorant and have been very pleased with it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant - Tap water - 31 Aug
You're probably right. The main advantage of tap water would improved speed and a slight savings of money. However, it had occurred to me that various sliver salts might be more effective for deodorizing than the purer product. Might not be, also. I simply don't know. I'm not afraid to experiment a bit, but it may be best for others to stick with the tried and tested distilled water method, given your well-stated concerns about assimilation of silver salts through the skin. Thanks for the reply. JBB On Friday, Sep 1, 2006, at 12:04 Asia/Tokyo, Sandee George wrote: Hi There Jonathan - please remember that the skin is one of the largest and most important toxin clearing/ breathing, as-similating areas of the body - the silver salts if applied to the skin will be assimilated into body/blood stream just as if you had taken them internally - why would you want to put chlorine + all the other - good for you chemicals - into your body by using tap water -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant - Tap water - 31 Aug
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, I AM A HAIR STYLIST THE INFORMATION GIVEN TO US IS THAT 60% OF THE STYLISTS GET CANCER AND 40% OF CLIENTS DUE TO DYES,PERMS, ETC. NEEDLESS TO SAY I ONLY STYLE HAIR AND NEVER USE PERMANANT DYES ETC. MARY -- Original message -- From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com Hi There Jonathan - please remember that the skin is one of the largest and most important toxin clearing/ breathing, as-similating areas of the body - the silver salts if applied to the skin will be assimilated into body/blood stream just as if you had taken them internally - why would you want to put chlorine + all the other - good for you chemicals - into your body by using tap water - this is why most of the beauty products for sale on the market do more damage than most imagine - I have a tape made about ten years ago about this exact topic which would make your hair curl - let me give you one example - any petroleum product are a precursor for cancer, this has been proved over and over again, so pray tell me why, Johnson and Johnson the baby product people use petroleum base for all of their products is this sanity or what ? The entire body needs to be treated with the same care and interest there is no one part or area which is not an integral part of the whole ! Regards Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSore Knee
Brain damage from the Lyme Disease. CS stopped the bug, but after 6 years of the little devils, I have permanent damage. sigh...Sure wish I could get rid of it. Brushing the skin doesn`t work, nor has anything else I`ve tried. It isn`t the circulation or the nerves, it is lymph building up. Of course if I lost a bunch of weight that might help... Marshalee Hi again Marshalee...glad you made a new friend...if your feet and knees are swelling too do you have some circulation problems or something else going on maybe?...debbie
CSCS as deodorant
I have used CS as a deodorant for a long time and it sure beats the heck out of the store bought stuff,and almost as cheap as dirt,even when made with distilled water.Also good when brushing/combing the hair. Harold -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCayenne
You can make your own Cool Cayenne by adding 1 part peppermint or ginger to 1 part Cayenne. Cayenne especially in capsules (which Schulze said were worthless) may irritate the stomach so a common combination was adding peppermint or ginger which abate stomach distress. Cayenne's only side effects are nausea and vomiting The way that you build tolerance to cayenne is to start with a 1/4 teaspoon cayenne in water 3x a day, next day 1/2 teaspoon of cayenne, and so on until you are up to 1 teaspoon of cayenne in water 3x a day, with meals. If you are sensitive to cayenne, just take it slower, 2 days at 1/4 teaspoon, and so on. If I feel some nausea coming on, I just take a little ginger or peppermint as an antidote and that stops it. Still think combining Cayenne and CS would be a good idea. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Santa Cruz, CA. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant - Tap water - 31 Aug
Hi There Jonathan - please remember that the skin is one of the largest and most important toxin clearing/ breathing, as-similating areas of the body - the silver salts if applied to the skin will be assimilated into body/blood stream just as if you had taken them internally - why would you want to put chlorine + all the other - good for you chemicals - into your body by using tap water - this is why most of the beauty products for sale on the market do more damage than most imagine - I have a tape made about ten years ago about this exact topic which would make your hair curl - let me give you one example - any petroleum product are a precursor for cancer, this has been proved over and over again, so pray tell me why, Johnson and Johnson the baby product people use petroleum base for all of their products is this sanity or what ? The entire body needs to be treated with the same care and interest there is no one part or area which is not an integral part of the whole ! Regards Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant - Tap water - 31 Aug
But if the CS is made correctly, you aren't applying silver salts to your skin. Am I correct? John in Australia - Original Message - From: Sandee George oha...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: CSFW: CSAG Deodorant - Tap water - 31 Aug Hi There Jonathan - please remember that the skin is one of the largest and most important toxin clearing/ breathing, as-similating areas of the body - the silver salts if applied to the skin will be assimilated into body/blood stream just as if you had taken them internally - why would you want to put chlorine + all the other - good for you chemicals - into your body by using tap water - Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com